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Its about time for Germany to try to take over the world again
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They were the center of trouble for WW1 and WW2. What makes us think it won't be the same for WW3?
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Well it now looks like Germany is dominating the EU. This cant bode well for the future of mankind
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All you have to do is listen to the remarks of the German Chancellor the last few months to be concerned.
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Corky_Aloof posted:
They were the center of trouble for WW1 and WW2. What makes us think it won't be the same for WW3?
I'd say WW1 was the fault of England and France who could not accept that they were obsolete, their envy and paranoia and they started the war. Germany was defending itself on two fronts set upon by three aggressors..
Oh and the largest fault is on the US for supplying France and England with money and arms prolonging what should have been inevitable, and when you realized that Germany was winning you had to bail your indebted slaves out.. Which lead to WW2, so we can all blame you stupid meddling Yankees for WW2; Nice going buttholes.
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We would have liked being Germany's bitch.
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Germany clearly was very responsible for both world wars.
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 The "person of interest" detained for questioning in a string of arson fires is a native of Germany who may have been in dispute with federal immigration officials, sources said.
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__Bonk__ posted:
Germany clearly was very responsible for both world wars.
WWII yes.
WWI no more than France or England
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An expert in world history said that the reason for WW1 was colonialism. There were a couple of up and coming powers like recently reuninted Germany that wanted colonies like the world colonial powers like England. Therefore there was an arms race and Germany went like crazy to form new colonies around the world.
The current world powers france and england didnt like the upstarts and the cold war between the wannabees in europe like Germany and the world powers like france and england continued until there was an excuse for war which was the assassination in that horrrid area of the world the balkans
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I know that. That makes Germany more guilty than England how exactly?
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I actually lay more blame for WW2 on France and Britain... if they had given an honorable peace to germany rather than trying to punish and crush the people there would have probably been little ground for Hitler to plant his dogma.
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France and Britain were trying to maintain the status quo. Germany and its allies were trying to upset the status quo. Therefore they are more guilty than the current world powers
The death of colonialism caused much pain in the world with the end result being Europe becoming a second class world power. Only now is Europe back in the game.
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Neither of the wars were Germany's fault.
Germany had no choice but to declare war on Russia. The Tsar had ordered a full mobilization of its troops to fight Austria after they had invaded Serbia. What was Germany going to do? Sit there and watch as one member of the Dual Alliance, the greatest threat to the existence of the Reich, had its way with the Habsburgs?
World War II happened because of Versailles, which was completely unfair. The Germans had a just cause.
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__Bonk__ posted:
France and Britain were trying to maintain the status quo. Germany and its allies were trying to upset the status quo. Therefore they are more guilty than the current world powers
The death of colonialism caused much pain in the world with the end result being Europe becoming a second class world power. Only now is Europe back in the game.
So if an established schoolyard bully and a wannabe schoolyard bully try to beat each other up the established schoolyard bully isn't responsible 
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Here is an old joke.
In Heaven the cooks are French, the lovers are Italian, the mechanics are German, the police are British, and the whole place is run by the Swiss. In Hell the cooks are British, the lovers are Swiss, the mechanics are French, the police are German, and the whole place is run by the Italians.
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Threads like these remind me we really are the center of the world.
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Not the center of the world but clearly Germany is the most important nation in Europe
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