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Subject: Is there or has there been a republican plan for homelessness and poverty?
Both are on the rise and alarming (but not surprising) rates.

Besides cutting welfare and lowering taxes for the wealthiest, is there a plan for addressing these societal blights or have I just missed it? I haven't heard about it in the debates, strangely.

Anyone know the deal?

 

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Trickle down economics! flag grin

 

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No cure for this problem. The only thing I can think of for this is for the government to fund drug treatment centers and give grants to homeless shelters and soup kitchens. The problem now is the government has NO MONEY

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Subject: Is there or has there been a republican plan for homelessness and poverty?
Well considering that the government is directly responsible for driving up poverty and driving down the ranks of the middle class, I would say that the best real fiscal conservatives can do is to get government off of the backs of small business, massively reduce big government / big business cronyism and gut our tax system for a complete makeover.

Economic leftists operate on the principle that government can fix poverty. I honestly do not understand how they can even begin to claim such given the massively overwhelming evidence that government does in fact, just the opposite. Where I may agree with economic leftists is on the status of corporations. I do not consider corporations to be people and I do not consider corps to have a 1st amendment right (note; there may need to be specific exceptions to that)

The more division there is between corporate entities and government, the better. Corporations should be able to sue government and make their case, but not to the grossly overwhelming extent that they can now.

 

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Subject: Is there or has there been a republican plan for homelessness and poverty?
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Anyone know the deal?
You really can't make people independent that would rather have their lives paid for by the tax payers.

 

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Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves.

 

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Sea_of_inK posted:
Both are on the rise and alarming (but not surprising) rates.

Besides cutting welfare and lowering taxes for the wealthiest, is there a plan for addressing these societal blights or have I just missed it? I haven't heard about it in the debates, strangely.

Anyone know the deal?


 

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Subject: Is there or has there been a republican plan for homelessness and poverty?
Neither side has a plan to help. R's want to abandon them, D's want to create more of them.

Have to turn to the Libertarians, Constitutionalists, etc if you want actual solutions.

 

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Ah yes, Libertarians have always been known for their extensive list of solutions to poverty.

And if i recall the Constitutionalist solution is Jesus.

 

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No one has a plan. There is no money to be made fixing/curing it.

 

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Subject: Is there or has there been a republican plan for homelessness and poverty?
if the LWNs hadn't created the real estate bubble by forcing fannie may/ freddie mac to give so many sub-prime mortgages,(thanks a whole lot barney frank) maybe there would not be so many homeless.

 

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laugh

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Ah yes, Libertarians have always been known for their extensive list of solutions to poverty.

And if i recall the Constitutionalist solution is Jesus.


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No one has a plan. There is no money to be made fixing/curing it.


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I believe it was Ford that wanted to pay his employees enough money to buy the product they made. That plan was the spark that created the American middle class, the most powerful nation in the world and unimaginable wealth.

To say that fixing/curing poverty has no financial gain is the height of ignorance or greed.

 

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Subject: Is there or has there been a republican plan for homelessness and poverty?
You dont hear democrats saying much about the homeless now becuase they realize that THE HOMELESS DONT VOTE

The democrats only mention the middle class now since they vote

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To say that fixing/curing poverty has no financial gain is the height of ignorance or greed.
laugh Riiiight.

 

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To say that fixing/curing poverty has no financial gain is the height of ignorance or greed.
laugh Riiiight.


/boggle silly

 

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If it paid so well why isn't anyone trying AND succeeding in fixing it? And your only example is one from 100 years ago?


I am not surprised your mind is boggled.

 

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The fact is most hardcore homeless are mentally ill, drug user, alcholics who refuse to get help

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If it paid so well why isn't anyone trying AND succeeding in fixing it? And your only example is one from 100 years ago?


I am not surprised your mind is boggled.


Because half the political decision making apparatus in this country has decided concentrating wealth is more important than generating prosperity for the whole country.

 

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I can agree with that statement with a correction. It's well more than half.

 

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The solution is to stop doing whatever the libtards say. Everything they do just makes things worse.

We could probably cut both problems by 50% within a year by not doing what the libtards want.

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Lyken-P posted:
Sea_of_inK posted:
Anyone know the deal?
You really can't make people independent that would rather have their lives paid for by the tax payers.


15% of the US's population is currently considered poor,1.7% get 50% or more of their income from welfare....The problems you see really don't exist. You are a victim of the right wing media.

 

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ineenia posted:
Lyken-P posted:
Sea_of_inK posted:
Anyone know the deal?
You really can't make people independent that would rather have their lives paid for by the tax payers.
15% of the US's population is currently considered poor,1.7% get 50% or more of their income from welfare....The problems you see really don't exist. You are a victim of the right wing media.
Who knew working in a non-profit organization in Chicago = right wing media brain washing... laugh

 

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Remnant_OBrien posted:
Ah yes, Libertarians have always been known for their extensive list of solutions to poverty.
You seem to have a less than stellar grasp of history. Libertarians have never been in power. They have never been in power because most people believe in the idea that might makes right where libertarianism is based on the principle of non aggression.

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And if i recall the Constitutionalist solution is Jesus.
Our American constitution is the documented extension of thousands of years of principled ethical law, not scripture. Unfortunately as it currently stands it is a gutted wreck due to an amassing of ignorance and egotistical arrogance that thinks it can divine the human individual path. plain

 

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Thanks for providing that incredibly detailed list of libertarian solutions to poverty. Excellent rebuttal.

And the Constitution really has very little to do with the Constitution party.

 

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Most importantly create more jobs.

Provide housing and education and health services as a way to give a leg up.

For the smallest subset that just dont want to work - Provide food and clothes?

 

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Lyken-P posted:
Sea_of_inK posted:
Anyone know the deal?
You really can't make people independent that would rather have their lives paid for by the tax payers.


Yes, because clearly everyone poor or homeless is just lazy.

 

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Yes, because clearly everyone poor or homeless is just lazy.
No one but you said "Everyone"... wink

 

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The leading cause of being poor is being born to poor parents.

The libtard solution is to pay poor people to have children.

Do you see the flaw in this plan?

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The leading cause of being poor is being born to poor parents.

The libtard solution is to pay poor people to have children.

Do you see the flaw in this plan?

thinking




As absurd as I think the people who took Idiocracy seriously are, it does touch scarily close to reality in some areas.

 

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I thought their solution was to give them a rifle and pit them against brown people.

 

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We all know how your people handle the "unwanted"

 

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Poor people were lazy&douchy in a previous life!!

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In case of poverty I have a small savings and would plan on finding a job even if I have to relocate. I don't know about other Republicans though.

 

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NuEM posted:

We all know how your people handle the "unwanted"


At least it wasn't done in my name. peace

 

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