Politicker NY posted:

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Ron Paul was a hot topic this week on the talk radio show hosted by prominent white supremacist Don Black and his son Derek. Mr. Black said he received Mr. Paul’s controversial newsletters when they were first published about two decades ago and described how the publications were perceived by members of the white supremacist movement. Former KKK Grand Wizard and Louisiana Congressman David Duke also phoned in to explain why he’s voting for Mr. Paul.

“Everybody, all of us back in the 80's and 90's, felt Ron Paul was, you know, unusual in that he had actually been a Congressman, that he was one of us and now, of course, that he has this broad demographic–broad base of support,” Mr. Black said on his broadcast yesterday.

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On Monday, Mr. Black said he originally believed the newsletters were written by Mr. Paul.

“They went out under his name in the first person and most people receiving these newsletters, including me, thought he really did write them,” Mr. Black said.

Mr. Black said he understood why Mr. Paul would want to distance himself from the newsletters.

“It was written in the first person frequently and, you know, a normal person would have thought that Ron Paul must have written this, or at least whoever wrote it must have did so with the approval of Ron Paul, but things change,” Mr. Black said. “So, now that he has this new base of support of course, he’s having–frantically trying to disavow himself from the newsletters, and I agree the newsletters were a little over the top.”

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Desnoxvu posted:

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This may seem weird but I am brown but I had white supremicist friends growing up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIRVgefQAEw

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Desnoxvu posted:

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This may seem weird but I am brown but I had white supremicist friends growing up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIRVgefQAEw


White people are not supposed to have white pride. Only black power and brown pride is acceptable. Osmenthe

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Desnoxvu posted:

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White people are not supposed to have white pride. Only black power and brown pride is acceptable.

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Desnoxvu posted:

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jah! Good of you to know that all skinheads are not racist. My favorite type of music is skinhead reggae. But yes, you are correct. My friends were teenagers, hence my statement about growing up with them. But they were pretty awesome. My freshman year best friend was a super white skinhead who used to wear vintage military uniforms to school. We had some fun times skateboarding together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZhe7tNqXQ

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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See, this is a weak attack on Ron Paul. Pointing out David Duke and Don Black liked the guy's racist newsletter doesn't tell you anything about Ron Paul you didn't already know.

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ZigmundZag posted:

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Just out of curiosity, did you feel the same way about Obama's relationships with that Weather Underground guy and Jeremiah Wright?

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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

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LOL when Stormfront says you are 'a little over the top' with your racism...

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ZigmundZag posted:

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Just out of curiosity, did you feel the same way about Obama's relationships with that Weather Underground guy and Jeremiah Wright?

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SirGarth posted:

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damn liberal media! what evil forces could be conspiring to show this ugly side of Ron Paul's support?

Politicker NY posted:

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Ron Paul was a hot topic this week on the talk radio show hosted by prominent white supremacist Don Black and his son Derek. Mr. Black said he received Mr. Paul’s controversial newsletters when they were first published about two decades ago and described how the publications were perceived by members of the white supremacist movement. Former KKK Grand Wizard and Louisiana Congressman David Duke also phoned in to explain why he’s voting for Mr. Paul.

“Everybody, all of us back in the 80's and 90's, felt Ron Paul was, you know, unusual in that he had actually been a Congressman, that he was one of us and now, of course, that he has this broad demographic–broad base of support,” Mr. Black said on his broadcast yesterday.

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On Monday, Mr. Black said he originally believed the newsletters were written by Mr. Paul.

“They went out under his name in the first person and most people receiving these newsletters, including me, thought he really did write them,” Mr. Black said.

Mr. Black said he understood why Mr. Paul would want to distance himself from the newsletters.

“It was written in the first person frequently and, you know, a normal person would have thought that Ron Paul must have written this, or at least whoever wrote it must have did so with the approval of Ron Paul, but things change,” Mr. Black said. “So, now that he has this new base of support of course, he’s having–frantically trying to disavow himself from the newsletters, and I agree the newsletters were a little over the top.”

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http://www.politickerny.com/2011/12/28/stormfront-founder-don-black-says-white-supremacists-thought-ron-paul-was-one-of-us/

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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How come you slunk away from comment when I asked you about your thoughts on Iraq/Afghanistan ? Why do you only reappear when you have something that supports a cause you feel for but will not apply a response to another situation that has many similarities ?

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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The world would be much better if we weren't mostly all hypocrites.

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Tych2 posted:

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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How come you slunk away from comment when I asked you about your thoughts on Iraq/Afghanistan ? Why do you only reappear when you have something that supports a cause you feel for but will not apply a response to another situation that has many similarities ?

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You do the same thing when I ask you what insignificant country you come from!

Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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The world would be much better if we weren't mostly all hypocrites.

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My god, the irony.

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SirGarth posted:

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i'm guessing orwyn_n00bheart is a member of the Outpost Ron Paul brigades?

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Reaver_noob must come from somewhere so awful he won't admit it.

Which leaves, in my mind, only a few possibilities:

1. Detroit

2. Fresno

3. Somewhere in the Balkans

5. Sudan

5. North Korea

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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when have i ever been a hypocrite ? cite one concrete example

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Tych2 posted:

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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when have i ever been a hypocrite ? cite one concrete example

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http://vnboards.ign.com/UserPages/PostHistory.aspx?usr=1159055

2598 examples.

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Tych2 posted:

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It's my way of proving your a hypocrite of epic proportions.

What insignificant country do you come from? Why do you flee from the question constantly?

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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SirGarth posted:

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i'm guessing orwyn_n00bheart is a member of the Outpost Ron Paul brigades?

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no, i dont have a high opinion of him



WHy no comment still on the other issue ?

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Reaver_noob must come from somewhere so awful he won't admit it.

Which leaves, in my mind, only a few possibilities:

1. Detroit

2. Fresno

3. Somewhere in the Balkans

5. Sudan

5. North Korea

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why so racist lawyer bro >?

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Tych2 posted:

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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Evading.. cowards are great it. Congrats!

It must be so horrible where you hail from that you are so utterly embarrassed to let it be known you dwell there.

And when pressed you'll evade, make excuses, deflect, and of course you will flee

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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I'm guessing Fresno.

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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I'm guessing Fresno.

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nice editing of the locations and races thur lawyer boy

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Tych2 posted:

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No he isn't American.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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I'm guessing Fresno.

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nice editing of the locations and races thur lawyer boy

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I can put them in the other post if you really want. I thought "every race represented" was clear enough, but maybe not for someone like you.

Although I think I remember now you are just an ACF noob.

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Tych2 posted:

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Evade, make excuses, and deflect.

So predictable. Poor little bird. You want to flee huh?

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XTC Online posted:

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Orwyn is a Stunning 31y old Guy looking for a Gentleman in Bochem, Limpopo, South Africa webcam chatting and dating at XTC-Online

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Reaver_noob must come from somewhere so awful he won't admit it.

Which leaves, in my mind, only a few possibilities:

1. Detroit

2. Fresno

3. Somewhere in the Balkans

5. Sudan

5. North Korea

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why so racist lawyer bro >?

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tenkly posted:

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Desnoxvu posted:

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White people are not supposed to have white pride. Only black power and brown pride is acceptable.

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lol, having pride in your race, and being a bigot isn't the same thing. Most white supremacist are against interracial marriage, are against having a multicultural nation and are for segregation of race.. That has 0 to do with racial pride.

I'm black and proud, but you don't see me wanting to throw whitey out of the country or hate on blacks who date whites and vice versa.

White supremacist is a synonym for racist bigot

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Allstarslacker posted:

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Reaver_noob must come from somewhere so awful he won't admit it.

Which leaves, in my mind, only a few possibilities:

1. Detroit

2. Fresno

3. Somewhere in the Balkans

5. Sudan

5. North Korea

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why so racist lawyer bro >?

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I don't think he mentioned race at all, but clearly it's on your mind.

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Bobvillas posted:

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Taking one for the team here.

This may or may not be our Orwyn. Google is fun. NSFW

[mod]

South Africa and looking for "nawty fun"

See you guys in a week or so.

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imaloon1 posted:

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I'm pretty sure when it's all said and done Garth is going to hold his head in his hands and weep for being so misguided.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Why do asian girls prefer white guys over me?

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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Allstarslacker posted:

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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why so racist lawyer bro >?

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I don't think he mentioned race at all, but clearly it's on your mind.

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it wasn't on my mind, but you are too stupid and arrogant to know any better right ?

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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so because I have a view point that disagrees with you, I am now black and gay ?


You just admitted to being a racist homophobe........

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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:

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Bobvillas posted:

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Taking one for the team here.

This may or may not be our Orwyn. Google is fun. NSFW

[mod]

South Africa and looking for "nawty fun"

See you guys in a week or so.

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so because I have a view point that disagrees with you, I am now black and gay ?


You just admitted to being a racist homophobe........

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reesescups posted:

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Ok, so in summary:


Orwyn is a African Male in his early 30's. He's extremely racist and bigoted, his hobbies include pole dancing and smoking man meat.


/next

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Huges07.1 posted:

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The media refused to associate Obama with anyone in his dark, shady, corrupt past but they are working as hard as they can to associate Ron Paul with any nutjob that comes out in support of him.

Government propaganda at it's finest.

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Huges07.1 posted:

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The media [...] Government propaganda at it's finest.

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Aerlinthian posted:

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1972 (or 73), a black & white married couple are in a hospital. The wife is pregnant and not receiving proper attention, the husband [black] keeps asking for help and ends up having the law called on him.

Dr Paul intervenes to their rescue and in addition takes on all financial responsibility for them.

http://youtu.be/8Rv0Z5SNrF4 (2:13)

In the clip the husband explains his ordeal.

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David Duke posted:

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“Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionism–a power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign finance–a power that’s, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Duke said. “So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because he’s one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and that’s why I’d vote for him.”

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SirGarth posted:

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David Duke posted:

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“Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionism–a power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign finance–a power that’s, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Duke said. “So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because he’s one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and that’s why I’d vote for him.”

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SirGarth posted:

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Aerlinthian, sorry if you felt left out - here's something just for you:

David Duke posted:

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“Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionism–a power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign finance–a power that’s, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Duke said. “So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because he’s one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and that’s why I’d vote for him.”

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so let's regroup - the Outpost Ron Paul Brigades currently consists of:

Aerlinthian

Brother Tempus

Desnoxvu

Huges07.1

did i miss anyone?

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manaskunk posted:

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Why do asian girls prefer white guys over me?

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SirGarth posted:

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Aerlinthian, sorry if you felt left out - here's something just for you:

David Duke posted:

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“Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionism–a power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign finance–a power that’s, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Duke said. “So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because he’s one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and that’s why I’d vote for him.”

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so let's regroup - the Outpost Ron Paul Brigades currently consists of:

Aerlinthian

Brother Tempus

Desnoxvu

Huges07.1

did i miss anyone?

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SirGarth posted:

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Aerlinthian, sorry if you felt left out - here's something just for you:

David Duke posted:

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“Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionism–a power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign finance–a power that’s, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Duke said. “So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because he’s one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and that’s why I’d vote for him.”

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so let's regroup - the Outpost Ron Paul Brigades currently consists of:

Aerlinthian

Brother Tempus

Desnoxvu

Huges07.1

did i miss anyone?

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Grymlo posted:

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Ill vote for him just because he seems to cause so many meltdowns

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SirGarth posted:

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Huges07.1 posted:

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The media refused to associate Obama with anyone in his dark, shady, corrupt past but they are working as hard as they can to associate Ron Paul with any nutjob that comes out in support of him.

Government propaganda at it's finest.

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yes, it was the evil government that made Ron Paul publish these newsletters and embrace these views to build his personal brand...

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imaloon1 posted:

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SirGarth posted:

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Huges07.1 posted:

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The media refused to associate Obama with anyone in his dark, shady, corrupt past but they are working as hard as they can to associate Ron Paul with any nutjob that comes out in support of him.

Government propaganda at it's finest.

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yes, it was the evil government that made Ron Paul publish these newsletters and embrace these views to build his personal brand...

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And it was the gubmint which made Bill Ayers love Obama so much....


And the Rev Wright...

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SirGarth posted:

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if Obama had been a member of a hateful or terrorist group, or more to the point allowed one to use his image as an endorsement as Ron Paul did, i'd think you have a point.

This goes beyond Ron Paul just posing for a picture with the Stormfront guy - he actively promoted their ideals using his identity.

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SirGarth posted:

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and really, you're equating all the members of Wright's congregation with the Ku Klux Klan and Stormfront?

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Tych2 posted:

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SirGarth posted:

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and really, you're equating all the members of Wright's congregation with the Ku Klux Klan and Stormfront?

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From what I know of all three of these nefarious organizations I would say its a good comparison.

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SirGarth posted:

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Tych2, i'm afraid you're going to have to try a lot harder to outdo Ron Paul supporters.

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SirGarth posted:

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obviously i'm talking about "The Ron Paul Survivor Report".

and really, you're equating all the members of Wright's congregation with the Ku Klux Klan and Stormfront?

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Tych2 posted:

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SirGarth posted:

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Tych2, i'm afraid you're going to have to try a lot harder to outdo Ron Paul supporters.

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I am not trying to outdo anyone. I am giving you my opinion. Disregard it all you want. I am willing to be that a lot of people feel like I do. I am not fringe.

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SirGarth posted:

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yes, it's clearly a pretty mainstream view that Wright's congregation is on the level of Stormfront and the KKK.

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Tych2 posted:

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SirGarth posted:

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yes, it's clearly a pretty mainstream view that Wright's congregation is on the level of Stormfront and the KKK.

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I believe it is. They are pretty out there. But then again it doesn't matter what I believe.

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Groucho48 posted:

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Tych2 posted:

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SirGarth posted:

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yes, it's clearly a pretty mainstream view that Wright's congregation is on the level of Stormfront and the KKK.

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I believe it is. They are pretty out there. But then again it doesn't matter what I believe.

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Proof? I mean besides the 3 or 4 snippets of speeches culled over a career of 30 or 40 years? And, nothing Wright said was any more extreme than what the whole panoply of right wing preachers expound every Sunday from the pulpit.

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SirGarth posted:

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imaloon, if Obama had gotten up on the pulpit and made hateful speeches himself, i'd think you have a point.

if Obama had been a member of a hateful or terrorist group, or more to the point allowed one to use his image as an endorsement as Ron Paul did, i'd think you have a point.

still, i don't see how you can give Ron Paul a pass, and then try to condemn Obama for associations that you're somehow flailingly trying to equate.

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