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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/27/neighbor-chopped-up-missing-indiana-girl-with-hacksaw-police-say/
A babysitter and trusted neighbor has confessed that he bludgeoned a 9-year-old Indiana girl to death with a brick then dismembered her, hiding her head, hands and feet at his home and dumping the rest of her remains nearby, police said Tuesday.
Allen County sheriff's investigators said in an affidavit that 39-year-old Michael Plumadore admits he killed Aliahna Lemmon on Thursday.
According to the affidavit, Plumadore told police that after beating Aliahna to death, he stuffed her body into trash bags and hid her in the freezer at his home in a rundown trailer park in Fort Wayne. He said he later chopped up her body and stuffed her remains into freezer bags.
Shame on you for wanting to keep trash like this alive. 
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Who are you, to shame others?
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/27/neighbor-chopped-up-missing-indiana-girl-with-hacksaw-police-say/
A babysitter and trusted neighbor has confessed that he bludgeoned a 9-year-old Indiana girl to death with a brick then dismembered her, hiding her head, hands and feet at his home and dumping the rest of her remains nearby, police said Tuesday.
Allen County sheriff's investigators said in an affidavit that 39-year-old Michael Plumadore admits he killed Aliahna Lemmon on Thursday.
According to the affidavit, Plumadore told police that after beating Aliahna to death, he stuffed her body into trash bags and hid her in the freezer at his home in a rundown trailer park in Fort Wayne. He said he later chopped up her body and stuffed her remains into freezer bags.
Shame on you for wanting to keep trash like this alive.
It's retarded to use a single example to justify why the death penalty should be kept around. I'm pro death penalty and even I wouldn't do that. Does this guy deserve the death penalty? Yes, without a doubt. But that really wasn't the question you were asking, so meh.
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Will killing him bring her back?
Will the pleasure you feel at having the government kill him justify the 100 other people the government kills under the same guidelines that were convicted using jail house "informants" and lying prosecutors fabricating evidence and obstructing justice?
Wanting the government to have the power to murder it's citizens is the opposite of being for a smaller less powerful government.
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Wanting the government to have the power to murder it's citizens ...
A person who can chop up a 9 year-old girl is not even human, let alone a citizen.
When there is irrefutable physical evidence that slam-dunks who did what, yes, let's have a death penalty.
For cases where the conviction is derived only from circumstantial evidence and little if any conclusive physical evidence? Life in prison is good 'nuff.
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Deserving the death penalty and actually implementing it in a truly just manner are two very different things.
I can't write it up now but I have a laundry list of long thought out reasons why I am against the death penalty with a few narrow exceptions (which aren't met here).
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Thanks Nancy Grace.
I did note when I read the original story that this trailer park as 24 trailers........
and 15 registered sex offenders. This guy wasn't one of them.
I'd rather read stories like the one where a man shot two people then stole and SUV with a two year old in the back seat.
The two year old was found later, in the car and unharmed. 
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/outrage! i'll now make a knee-jerk reactionary policy decision that affects thousands of unrelated and less obvious cases!
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Will killing him bring her back?
Will the pleasure you feel at having the government kill him justify the 100 other people the government kills under the same guidelines that were convicted using jail house "informants" and lying prosecutors fabricating evidence and obstructing justice?
Wanting the government to have the power to murder it's citizens is the opposite of being for a smaller less powerful government.
Aerlinthian posted:
Deserving the death penalty and actually implementing it in a truly just manner are two very different things.
These
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I am for a vigorously used and quickly implemented death penalty.
Some things are bad enough that you should forfeit your life for doing. This is one of them.
That said, never let a male babysit your kids. EVER.
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reesescups posted:
Ptilk posted:
Will killing him bring her back?
Will the pleasure you feel at having the government kill him justify the 100 other people the government kills under the same guidelines that were convicted using jail house "informants" and lying prosecutors fabricating evidence and obstructing justice?
Wanting the government to have the power to murder it's citizens is the opposite of being for a smaller less powerful government.
Aerlinthian posted:
Deserving the death penalty and actually implementing it in a truly just manner are two very different things.
These
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Putting them in jail solves the problem.
Also jail can be very inexpensive, it just needs to be implemented to be more self sustainng.
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Putting them in jail makes the problem worse. They are a danger to others, even in jail.
We need to revamp the process so that it doesn't cost $10 million and take 20 years to execute someone.
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Sure. We could let them run day care centers and stuff.
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The most dangerous people in jail are the ones that are there for crimes which are not considered death penalty offenses. Gang bangers, thugs, bully rapist types.
Edit: i meant they should harvest and grow their own food. And do auto repair for the local city, etc.. Stuff like that.
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When there is irrefutable physical evidence that slam-dunks who did what, yes, let's have a death penalty.
For cases where the conviction is derived only from circumstantial evidence and little if any conclusive physical evidence? Life in prison is good 'nuff.
I agree with metal face
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When there is irrefutable physical evidence that slam-dunks who did what, yes, let's have a death penalty.
For cases where the conviction is derived only from circumstantial evidence and little if any conclusive physical evidence? Life in prison is good 'nuff.
i would agree with this as well...if i thought it was possible to legislate and the gov't wouldn't try to find loopholes in it whenever it served their purpose
since i don't believe it is...i am anti death penalty
life in prison serves the same purpose...to remove the person from the population "forever"......the death penalty seems like an emotionally tainted revenge killing to me...and i don't support that
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What is his VN name?
Does he post here often?
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Most people believed that it was a "slam dunk" that Iraq had WMD.
Believing anything the government tells you is so absolutely true that you will kill people based upon it....is fracking stupid.
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I'm against the death penalty because it makes the US look like backwards barbarians compared to the rest of the civilized world and because innocent men and women are put to death.
Abolish the death penalty now
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I would never support the death penalty. I don't want the government killing in my name.
And before anyone says what if it was your family member. I would seek vengeance and deal with the consequences of my actions. I have no problem killing someone I feel needs it. I don't want the government doing it in my name.
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I don't understand how anyone can do something like that. There must be something seriously wrong in those people's heads.
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That said, never let a male babysit your kids. EVER.
I assume that means their father as well?
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It's not babysitting when it's own kids.
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That said, never let a male babysit your kids. EVER.
I assume that means their father as well?
You assume incorrectly.
A parent doesn't babysit their own kids.
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Death penalty for all repeat offenders, in any serious crime.
You get one extra chance to appease the crybaby liberals and then once you have proven that you can not function in society you are done.
Though I would prefer forced labor to death penalty but people would cry too much.
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This story hits close to home for me, literally. Ft. Wayne is less than an hour from where I live and I go there a few times a month. It's not the kind of place where things of this nature happen much in a lifetime.
I read the story and actually shed a tear or two while reading it. I have a 9 year old daughter of my own and I can't begin to imagine anyone being able to do something like that and it pains me to think of what that little girl went through. It actually infuriates me and makes me wonder where we are as a species and if maybe we don't deserve to be wiped out sometimes. These kinds of stories can stress any man's faith at times.
Still, I have never been for the death penalty. It's the height of hypocrisy imo. Would I kill the guy myself if allowed to do so? Without a doubt. I just don't think the courts should have that power.
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I don't want the government killing in my name.
Nitpick: The government doesn't kill in our name.
It kills at our request.
The 12 citizens of the jury decide whether that happens or not. I'm not talking about the verdict of guilty, but the entirely separate sentencing phase where the jury decides whether the death sentence is appropriate or not.
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Then I withdraw my request. Either way I won't support it.
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I would support the death penalty if it applied to Yoss
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I am for a vigorously used and quickly implemented death penalty.
Some things are bad enough that you should forfeit your life for doing. This is one of them.
That said, never let a male babysit your kids. EVER.
Yep. I'm way too overprotective (according to family and friends...) but I don't let anyone babysit my children except for my in-laws and my parents, and even then only if the female is present the whole time. Period. Zero exceptions, now or ever. People are crazy and sick, and aside from that they're also prone to incompetent accidents too.
Family can be just as guilty, but non-family doesn't love a kid like a parent does and in most cases their only fear in the event of an accident resulting in that kid's demise is what their accountability to the law is. No thanks.
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Koneg posted:
When there is irrefutable physical evidence that slam-dunks who did what, yes, let's have a death penalty.
For cases where the conviction is derived only from circumstantial evidence and little if any conclusive physical evidence? Life in prison is good 'nuff.
I agree with metal face
This has always been my stance as well. If it's 100% absolutely sure of guilt of a heinous crime, only then should the death penalty be applied.
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Isnt every guilty person in the slammer because the proof or guilt is 100% absolute? And its always 100% absolute until it turns out its not?
The hurdle you are trying to set has a pretty massive margin of error. If you are ever 100% absolutely positively dead certain of something....you are really just fooling yourself.
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Deserving the death penalty and actually implementing it in a truly just manner are two very different things.
I can't write it up now but I have a laundry list of long thought out reasons why I am against the death penalty with a few narrow exceptions (which aren't met here).
Ive seen your list:
1. Zionists
2. Jews
3. People supporting 1 & 2
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