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Civilization works the best when the strong are diligent shepherds of the weak.
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There are people who are more capable than others. This is a fact.
Those people will have more, but they also have a responsibility. On their shoulders falls the task of driving humanity.
They can exploit it for personal gain leading all to ruin, or they can guide it for the benefit of all.
More than ever the world needs a good shepherd, but I'm afraid they only exist in fairy tales.
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the only good "shepherds" are those that were put in the position against their will and had no desire to have the power and no desire to keep it
edit: shepherds in my context is about gov't leaders....not instructive/educational leaders
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Humanity would be peaceful if it had a totalitarian force making everyone behave. This is the shepherd
The next step for human societies is large trade blocks like the EU. The EU will force other nations to join such blocks to compete on an equal basis
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If their stupidity didn't shelter them from the full shame of their actions,their would be alot more republican suicides.
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Civilization works best if you can maintain Caste System as long as possible. That way you can have unlimited Scientists and research up the tech tree at almost the same speed the AI can! 
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The most natural form of government for human civilization is at the basic level the tribe and at the city or country level the royal system with kings and queens.
Democracy is unnatural and will go away when times get really really bad
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I think humanity will always live within a self imposed caste system.
People tend to associate with people who are like them.
The natural result is the grouping of the powerful who will always sit atop the masses.
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Humans are a herd animal with a hierarchical structure. There will always be pack leaders and the rest followers.
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it's to bad that these shepards spend 99% of their time actively seeking out and crushing those who would work to better the world and serve ass these "shepards"
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The problem is the difference between someone who can't work hard and someone who won't work hard and someone who is working hard but still sux.
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Civilization does NOT work best when the strong are diligent shepherds of the weak. If your civilization is strong it is way past time to invade and cut out a piece of the weakest opponent's piece of the pie.
Especially if you're going for a Domination or Conquest victory!
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"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee." I been saying that shit for years. And if you heard it, that meant your ass. I never gave much thought to what it meant. I just thought it was some cold-blooded shit to say to a motherfucker before I popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some shit this morning made me think twice. See, now I'm thinking, maybe it means you're the evil man, and I'm the righteous man, and Mr. 9 millimeter here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that shit ain't the truth. The truth is, you're the weak, and I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm trying, Ringo. I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd.
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At their cores the ideals of pure scoialism are opposed to the ideals of pure freedom. If you could come up with a way to fairly and accurately separate the strong from the weak, and you were willing to take most freedom away from the weak then your ideals could work and forma strong society.
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There are people who are more capable than others. This is a fact.
Those people will have more, but they also have a responsibility. On their shoulders falls the task of driving humanity.
They can exploit it for personal gain leading all to ruin, or they can guide it for the benefit of all.
More than ever the world needs a good shepherd, but I'm afraid they only exist in fairy tales.
Almost all the great achievements of mankind have been done through the power of governments not individuals.
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Define "best" in this context. Also I disagree with the premise.
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Best would be defined as having the best chance of meeting the physical needs of the people while advancing our species.
Most people don't have the vision necessary to guide their own actions effectively let alone the actions of others.
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Virtually any large group of animals benefit most when the weak are allowed to perish and the fit survive and breed for excellence.
Humanity has worked it the other way, and we are up to our collective tushes in the poor, the needy and the stupid.
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Civilization works best when every member brings something positive to the table and is considered a valued member.
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In learning theory, we call those who get it helping those who dont get it, the ZOPED model ( zone of proximal development). It is a social learning theory and produces better results in general. It was introduced by a Russian named Lev Vygotsky. The Western model is an individual model. Allstar is just saying help where you can , it makes our world better. I agree.
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The world would be a perfect place if everyone was perfect.
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shepherds just want More pussy.
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