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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLonnC_ZWQ0
What's worse, his real response or CNN's obvious bias?
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+1 for RP 
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Fox News are probably even worse, as in this exhibition of evidence of top notch journalism, where Ron Paul shut her down also
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The thing is people talk to the producers of the show and the producers guarantee that certain questions wont be asked. They get on the show and the reporter or host asks those very same questions.
I wouldnt storm off but I would leave too because the producer was a liar
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stupid interview. about something he supposedly wrote that long ago? this is lame. Just walk away who cares what they think.
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stupid interview. about something he supposedly wrote that long ago? this is lame. Just walk away who cares what they think.
"I didn't write them, I disavow them"... "it was twenty years ago".
No supposedly about it.
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Ron Paul is a career Texas politician. I am skeptical about everything any politician says. But a long career politician is especially suspect.
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I am not Paul supporter but it seems a bit fishy what the MS media is doing here.
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Politicians should all leave ambush interviews
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Ron Paul is a career Texas politician. I am skeptical about everything any politician says. But a long career politician is especially suspect.
Yes, he's been in politics a long time, and I suppose by definition that can equate to a career. But he was also a practicing Doctor for a long time as well...
I guess the point I want to make is that Politics isn't and hasn't been his only career - he has had other successful careers - Politics wasn't his bread and butter, and it wasn't a 'fall back' career - nor was it a career he fell into because of family connections or yadda yadda...
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Yep Ron was a doctor first. Obama is a career politician of the worst kind and proof people who voted for him are pure, unadulterated idiots of the worst sort
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And I love how the media describes this as Ron Paul storming off the set...
This is storming off the set
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"If you made money off of them, would you return the money?"
"What? To who?"
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.....charity?"
What a dumb bitch. She was floundering.
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Ron Paul is a career Texas politician.
Apparently you do not know what "career" means. You want to get an idea of what a real career politician is? Then you can look up people who as soon as they got out of law school went straight into politics (if they weren't already working in the system). People like Anthony Weiner, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, et al.
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Modeeb posted:
Ron Paul is a career Texas politician.
Apparently you do not know what "career" means. You want to get an idea of what a real career politician is? Then you can look up people who as soon as they got out of law school went straight into politics (if they weren't already working in the system). People like Anthony Weiner, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, et al.
Don't forget Obama...
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It was a legit question. Ron Paul answered it, she refused to move on. The CNN anchor was the only one that looked bad.
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I dunno, I was kinda curious about the money thing. It seems like he honestly didn't know what she was talking about but I'd be interested to see it cleared up. Not about returning money - that's obviously stupid - but about whether he really sold those under his name for big bucks.
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What is worse is that the MSM and republican neo-con establishment are trying to label him as a racist when they are the racist ones. Ron Paul is the only candidate who opposes the drug war and states that it is more harmful to blacks and minorities. Also the only position he has changed his views on is the death penalty because he says that blacks and the poor are more punished in our justice system. Newt Gingrich once proposed giving the death penalty to anyone caught with weed. These white good old boys are extremely scared of Ron Paul but hopefully the people don't buy into these liars and thieve's last power grab.
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I dunno, I was kinda curious about the money thing. It seems like he honestly didn't know what she was talking about but I'd be interested to see it cleared up. Not about returning money - that's obviously stupid - but about whether he really sold those under his name for big bucks.
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Everyone is a racist. Don't you know it?
Yuki is massively racist
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It was a legit question. Ron Paul answered it, she refused to move on. The CNN anchor was the only one that looked bad.
CNN fat cow: will you give the monies back?
Not only did he answer it, but he's answered that same question a hundred times before, and it was concerning something minor that happened a quarter century ago and that he has disavowed over and over again.
He did a great job being first polite to her, then patronizing her, then finally using her for a punching bag when she wouldn't let up.
After he thoroughly embarrassed her, the last thing he said to her was "Yea, I know how the system works."
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He doesn't have to answer that. It was from years ago and he said he didnt even write it. Lets start digging stuff up for libtard candidates. I bet we could find some stuff too. But since hes a republican it gets placed front and center above all else. I mean thats just bad. Something from that long ago to bring against a guy lol. Super lame. Then again I guess thats just how far the whole process has sank to.
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That reporter was terrible.
That entire interview felt awkward
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I agree. But it's still a fact he let people put his name on something and didn't bother to actually read what was in it. If he made a million dollars from it that makes a difference because it suggests he really should have been monitoring it.
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I dunno, I was kinda curious about the money thing. It seems like he honestly didn't know what she was talking about but I'd be interested to see it cleared up. Not about returning money - that's obviously stupid - but about whether he really sold those under his name for big bucks.
Just in case Yuki was wondering why I am laughing at him...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKOacv5BCQA
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I dunno, I was kinda curious about the money thing. It seems like he honestly didn't know what she was talking about but I'd be interested to see it cleared up. Not about returning money - that's obviously stupid - but about whether he really sold those under his name for big bucks.
Just in case Yuki was wondering why I am laughing at him...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKOacv5BCQA
I don't know how many ways I can say that. That is what I am interested in. He seems like he really doesn't know what she's talking about, but I would like to know for sure. If he was getting big royalties from licensing the thing it changes my impression of what happened significantly and I think it should change any reasonable person's impression. I'm not saying he was, just that I'd like to know for sure.
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The newsletter you're all up in arms about referenced nearly every stance that he had or has for the last 30 years.
It was his first outlet for speaking out for the gold standard. Subsequent views were espoused by other writers at varying points in time.
I've looked through a lot of those manuscripts and to be honest I can't find anything relating to the 1993 world trade center bombing and Israel or anything like that.
lots of stuff about big government about the gold standard.
Some discussions of race but when read in context doesn't sound nearly as ZOMG RACIST!! as anybody would think.
But we don't want to do that anyway it's no fun finding the truth... We know how the system works.
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If he was getting paid big bucks to license his name onto the newsletter he should have been paying attention to the content. If he wasn't making money off it and it was just something some people were doing on their own I don't think it really matters at all.
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I don't know how many ways I can say that. That is what I am interested in. He seems like he really doesn't know what she's talking about, but I would like to know for sure. If he was getting big royalties from licensing the thing it changes my impression of what happened significantly and I think it should change any reasonable person's impression. I'm not saying he was, just that I'd like to know for sure.
You're a rumor slut.
He laid it out there. Prove he lied or stfu.
What would you think if Some one started a rumor that your grandma has a penis. There is no proof your grandma has a penis. You state emphatically that she doesn't. You say that you are living proof she doesn't.
Before people de-pants your Grandma shouldn't there be some evidence that she has a penis other than rumor?
You know as soon as Grandma drops her draws there will be another rumor saying the same things about your mom and then your wife.
All I am saying is provide some proof that he made money.
Otherwise I demand that you show me your grandma's package because I heard a rumor it's 12 inches long.
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He doesn't have to answer that. It was from years ago and he said he didnt even write it. Lets start digging stuff up for libtard candidates. I bet we could find some stuff too. But since hes a republican it gets placed front and center above all else. I mean thats just bad. Something from that long ago to bring against a guy lol. Super lame. Then again I guess thats just how far the whole process has sank to.
you're a moron. you don't think conservatives aren't going over liberal candidates with a fine tooth comb? you don't think this rumor was started by one of the other conservative candidates?
You are a dufus
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He didn't lay it out IMHO. He specifically didn't speak to why or how or how much money he made off the stuff. If it's such a big deal don't you think he should know? I thinkt he dodge is what is interesting Yuki. Why dodge unless you did endorse, support, or help publish the newsletter, and made money off of it?
He could have said, I made no money off the newsletter, I had no association with the newsletter. Instead he said today I disavow the newsletter. Is that really all it takes?
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He didn't lay it out IMHO. He specifically didn't speak to why or how or how much money he made off the stuff. If it's such a big deal don't you think he should know? I thinkt he dodge is what is interesting Yuki. Why dodge unless you did endorse, support, or help publish the newsletter, and made money off of it?
He could have said, I made no money off the newsletter, I had no association with the newsletter. Instead he said today I disavow the newsletter. Is that really all it takes?
WTF are you talking about??!?
He said...
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I didn't write them, I didn't read them at the time, and I disavow them. that is the answer. If you know that I made money on them than you know more about my finances than I do.
WTF? Doesn't seem like a dodge to me. Start proving some of this stuff guys or you are just rumor sluts.
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If it's such a big deal don't you think he should know?
Sorry - who's big deal is this, why is it a big deal?
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Not only did he answer it, but he's answered that same question a hundred times before, and it was concerning something minor that happened a quarter century ago and that he has disavowed over and over again.
The whole twenty-five years ago thing doesn't fly for me. Ron Paul was what, fifty then? Everyone holds some crazy views when they're younger. But at fifty I expect you are already the man you're going to be for the rest of your life.
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Voodoo-Dahl posted:
B_Shinkicker posted:
Not only did he answer it, but he's answered that same question a hundred times before, and it was concerning something minor that happened a quarter century ago and that he has disavowed over and over again.
The whole twenty-five years ago thing doesn't fly for me. Ron Paul was what, fifty then? Everyone holds some crazy views when they're younger. But at fifty I expect you are already the man you're going to be for the rest of your life.
His views, as in: you aren't paying attention and you believe he wrote them?
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IMHO posted:
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I didn't write them, I didn't read them at the time, and I disavow them. that is the answer. If you know that I made money on them than you know more about my finances than I do.
WTF? Doesn't seem like a dodge to me. Start proving some of this stuff guys or you are just rumor sluts.
That was his second answer. If he didn't make money off of it then fine.
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Voodoo-Dahl posted:
B_Shinkicker posted:
Not only did he answer it, but he's answered that same question a hundred times before, and it was concerning something minor that happened a quarter century ago and that he has disavowed over and over again.
The whole twenty-five years ago thing doesn't fly for me. Ron Paul was what, fifty then? Everyone holds some crazy views when they're younger. But at fifty I expect you are already the man you're going to be for the rest of your life.
Ron Paul posted:
I didn't write them, I didn't read them at the time, and I disavow them. that is the answer. If you know that I made money on them than you know more about my finances than I do.
Are you guys daft?
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reesescups posted:
Voodoo-Dahl posted:
B_Shinkicker posted:
Not only did he answer it, but he's answered that same question a hundred times before, and it was concerning something minor that happened a quarter century ago and that he has disavowed over and over again.
The whole twenty-five years ago thing doesn't fly for me. Ron Paul was what, fifty then? Everyone holds some crazy views when they're younger. But at fifty I expect you are already the man you're going to be for the rest of your life.
His views, as in: you aren't paying attention and you believe he wrote them?
According to an article Garth linked the other day, he admitted to writing them and now has changed his story.
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Voodoo-Dahl posted:
According to an article that Garth linked the other day, he admitted to writing them and now has changed his story.
Yeah, I'm not believing that at face value.
Link?
EDIT: And I'll go on record. Even if he did write them. Then we are right back at picking between two piles of crap. I'll gladly take the Ron Paul pile of crap over the same ole status quo pile of crap...
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the interviews are getting worse and worse, as these talking heads find themselves in the incredibly annoying position of having to continue talking to Ron Paul. The worst part, he points out how ridiculous the mainstream media has become in this country and even refuses to play their "gotcha" game.
NEWSFLASH - Today follower A of candidate B put up racist comments on a newspaper's website. OMG what did the candidate know and when?
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Voodoo-Dahl posted:
According to an article Garth linked the other day, he admitted to writing them and now has changed his story.
Jesse Benton posted:
"He has, however, taken moral responsibility because they appeared under his name and slipped through under his watch," Benton said. "They do not reflect what he believes in: liberty and dignity for all mankind. … Dr. Paul, renowned as a straight shooter who speaks his mind, has given literally thousands of speeches over the past 35 years, and he has never spoken such things."
HTH
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IMHO posted:
I didn't write them, I didn't read them at the time, and I disavow them. that is the answer. If you know that I made money on them than you know more about my finances than I do.
It's an ambiguous statement. All I want is someone to clear it up that he really didn't make money off it. You getting all butthurt about it shows more about your irrational like for the guy than anything else. If he really didn't make money off it it should be easy enough for someone to clarify that. It's not some reason to go back to the wall attacking anyone who possibly wants him to make a clear statement.
Paul supporters bother me more than Paul does himself. People accused Obama supporters of having a messiah complex but Paul supporters make Obama supporters look sceptical.
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I smell desperation.
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IMHO posted:
I didn't write them, I didn't read them at the time, and I disavow them. that is the answer. If you know that I made money on them than you know more about my finances than I do.
I don't know what any of this is about, but that is totally a political dodge.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
IMHO posted:
I didn't write them, I didn't read them at the time, and I disavow them. that is the answer. If you know that I made money on them than you know more about my finances than I do.
It's an ambiguous statement. All I want is someone to clear it up that he really didn't make money off it. You getting all butthurt about it shows more about your irrational like for the guy than anything else. If he really didn't make money off it it should be easy enough for someone to clarify that. It's not some reason to go back to the wall attacking anyone who possibly wants him to make a clear statement.
Paul supporters bother me more than Paul does himself. People accused Obama supporters of having a messiah complex but Paul supporters make Obama supporters look sceptical.
I support Obama. I think he has/is doing a GREAT job.
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