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Ron Paul solicitation letter
Lots of batsh!ttery in there, but this portion particularly catches the eye
I've been told not to talk, but these stooges don't scare me. Threats or no threats, I've laid bare the coming race war in our big cities. The federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS (my training as a physician helps me see through this one.) The Bonemian Grove--perverted, pagan playground of the powerful. Skull & Bones: the demonic fraternity that includes George Bush and leftist Senator John Kerry, Congress's Mr. New Money. The Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica. And the Soviet-style "smartcard" the Justice Department has in mind for you.
This guy is a moonbat. Between this and his racist noob newsletters I finally get why the GOP doesn't want this guy as their nominee.
What I don't understand is HOW this guy has been in Congress this long? How gerrymandered must Texas be that this guy keeps his seat like forever?  He makes Michelle Bachmann look sane.
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I say let the Republicans run with whom ever makes them comfortable. 
He sounds like a Republican stating the facts as they see them 
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Ron Paul solicitation letter
Lots of batsh!ttery in there, but this portion particularly catches the eye
I've been told not to talk, but these stooges don't scare me. Threats or no threats, I've laid bare the coming race war in our big cities. The federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS (my training as a physician helps me see through this one.) The Bonemian Grove--perverted, pagan playground of the powerful. Skull & Bones: the demonic fraternity that includes George Bush and leftist Senator John Kerry, Congress's Mr. New Money. The Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica. And the Soviet-style "smartcard" the Justice Department has in mind for you.
This guy is a moonbat. Between this and his racist noob newsletters I finally get why the GOP doesn't want this guy as their nominee.
What I don't understand is HOW this guy has been in Congress this long? How gerrymandered must Texas be that this guy keeps his seat like forever? He makes Michelle Bachmann look sane.
You do realize this is the crap that he said he never wrote, right???
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^^ lolz
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^^ lolz
What part confuses you?
Do you really think he's gonna resend a solicitation to get your vote for a primary using the same crap that was written in the 80's, that he is already neck deep in denouncing? Even if he DID write it in the 80's, you really think he's gonna reuse it now???
Eff you are dumb.
It's obviously BS and a setup pushed by establishment to get people to have this exact reaction.
Wait a minute, who am I kidding - you obviously can't spot or comprehend the obvious...
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Just look at it and read it for Christ sakes, it looks like it was written by masboro or some other half illiterate Jesus freak.
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Of course hes a moonbat.
It took a black man becoming president for republicans to lose their minds
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I hate Ron Paul, but all of this stuff circulating right now screams 'Karl Rove'.
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reesescups posted:
Ashmaele posted:
Ron Paul solicitation letter
Lots of batsh!ttery in there, but this portion particularly catches the eye
I've been told not to talk, but these stooges don't scare me. Threats or no threats, I've laid bare the coming race war in our big cities. The federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS (my training as a physician helps me see through this one.) The Bonemian Grove--perverted, pagan playground of the powerful. Skull & Bones: the demonic fraternity that includes George Bush and leftist Senator John Kerry, Congress's Mr. New Money. The Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica. And the Soviet-style "smartcard" the Justice Department has in mind for you.
This guy is a moonbat. Between this and his racist noob newsletters I finally get why the GOP doesn't want this guy as their nominee.
What I don't understand is HOW this guy has been in Congress this long? How gerrymandered must Texas be that this guy keeps his seat like forever? He makes Michelle Bachmann look sane.
You do realize this is the crap that he said he never wrote, right???
His signature is at the bottom. Either he wrote it or he allowed someone else to use his name and went with it. At the very least it shows stupid judgment.
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lol Mastboro. That name just cracks me up.
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His signature is at the bottom. Either he wrote it or he allowed someone else to use his name and went with it. At the very least it shows stupid judgment.
Yes I am sure his personal signature is on the bottom of each and every copy, not some stamped sig...
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He didn't write them. Even the pundits who have been trying to attack him on every issue for years admit he did not write them. He wasn't even the editor of the newsletter. Sad how uninformed the American electorate is. If we don't elect Ron Paul then we get what we deserve and our children will be slaves to the system that Ashmaele was too weak to take on.
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He didn't write them. Even the pundits who have been trying to attack him on every issue for years admit he did not write them. He wasn't even the editor of the newsletter. Sad how uninformed the American electorate is.
Let's suppose for a moment that you and these unnamed "pundits" are correct. Who did write them? Does he not know? Why did he allow them to continue to be published in his name (with his signature affixed) if he did not believe these things? Why won't he tell us now who wrote them? Why did he wait ten focking years to disavow them? Why not SUE whoever wrote them for sullying his good name?
I like much of what the guy says but I cannot divorce myself from reality like the Paulians. I need answers to these questions and he refuses to provide them, leaving me with the assumption that one of two things must be true:
1. He did write them, or at the very least they were published with his tacit approval.
2. He did not write them and does not believe this crap, but he felt as though he needed the racist noob/moonbat bloc in order to maintain his seat in Congress (which means he has zero credibility and zero character).
Either way, this isn't the kind of guy I want in the White House.
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If we don't elect Ron Paul then we get what we deserve and our children will be slaves to the system that Ashmaele was too weak to take on.
LOL Please let us not hear any more about how Obama is "teh Messiah" to his followers.
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He didn't write them. Even the pundits who have been trying to attack him on every issue for years admit he did not write them. He wasn't even the editor of the newsletter. Sad how uninformed the American electorate is.
Let's suppose for a moment that you and these unnamed "pundits" are correct. Who did write them? Does he not know? Why did he allow them to continue to be published in his name (with his signature affixed) if he did not believe these things? Why won't he tell us now who wrote them? Why did he wait ten focking years to disavow them? Why not SUE whoever wrote them for sullying his good name?
I like much of what the guy says but I cannot divorce myself from reality like the Paulians. I need answers to these questions and he refuses to provide them, leaving me with the assumption that one of two things must be true:
1. He did write them, or at the very least they were published with his tacit approval.
2. He did not write them and does not believe this crap, but he felt as though he needed the racist noob/moonbat bloc in order to maintain his seat in Congress (which means he has zero credibility and zero character).
Either way, this isn't the kind of guy I want in the White House.
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If we don't elect Ron Paul then we get what we deserve and our children will be slaves to the system that Ashmaele was too weak to take on.
LOL Please let us not hear any more about how Obama is "teh Messiah" to his followers.
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I only know of one editor. Lew Rockwell. He has not laid claim that he edited those newsletters yet though. There is also a rumor that it was Eric Dondero who wrote them which is ironic because he is now the ex-staffer who is now attacking Ron Paul.
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Ron Paul owned that newspaper. Its not some rogue publication, he owned it and his name is attached to it. The fact that he didn't know about it until ten years later is not favorable to him.
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Who gives a good goddamn what he wrote or didn't write 20 goddamn years ago.
Can any of you honestly tell me that you feel the same way today about things that you did 20 years ago?
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To be perfectly honest, I don't care if he wrote it or not. I'm more interested in how he's handling it. He should have said, I didn't write it and when I found out that my name was attached to something that so obviously does not represent my beliefs, I took appropriate steps to ensure this would never happen again. I regret this incident especially as it was my own publication that ran this.
Honestly, you want a president that proves he passes the buck and fails to take responsibility for something his name is attached to?
Btw, twenty years ago I was eight and my mom taught me well enough back then not to speak or think in terms of race (except on the outpost!) Twenty years ago is no excuse, we knew better in the 90's.
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Actually he was a practicing physician while these newsletters were being released. It wasn't a social issue newsletter. It was supposed to be focused on hard money issues. Eric Dondero caused contraversy in the past with other Paul staffers because he had said racist things and it was said that Ron Paul had yelled at him for misrepresenting him on some issues. This is why Eric was fired. But of course people weak of mind will focus on these newsletters rather than 13 terms of voting records, house floor speeches, thousands of interviews, 6 books and a solid platform based on invidual rights rather than collectivism.
A fun fact is that Ron Paul gets more support from minorities than the other GOP candidates and he is the only candidate against the racist drug war. The issue of these newsletters was resolved a long time ago. The only reason they are being rehashed is because the establishment and media elitists have nothing else. The Ron Paul haters are just pathetic tools pretending this is an issue rather than his consistent voting record and stances on civil liberties.
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AzureTyger posted:
I hate Ron Paul, but all of this stuff circulating right now screams 'Karl Rove'.
That's odd... Karl Rove didn't sign that shill-sheet.
Ron Paul did.
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He had created the newsletter so that people could discuss hard money issues. He has admitted that he was busy with his physician practice (you know, delivering 4000 babies, some for free if the patients couldn't pay) so he had neglected being a better publisher. His fault was letting people like Lew Rockwell and other old school texans manage the editing of the letters. There were thousands of them though so it is absurd to say he agrees with everything said in every one of them.
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If you believe his apologists, then you must also believe that a career politician was regularly and routinely letting others put out writings under his name and bearing his signature without his having first vetted, or at least glanced at, those writings.
If you believe his apologists, then Ron Paul is provably incompetent at running his own business(es), and has no business being President.
If you do not believe his apologists, then Ron Paul is proven by his own hand to be a dingbat of the first order, and has no business being President.
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He had created the newsletter so that people could discuss hard money issues. He has admitted that he was busy with his physician practice (you know, delivering 4000 babies, some for free if the patients couldn't pay) so he had neglected being a better publisher. His fault was letting people like Lew Rockwell and other old school texans manage the editing of the letters. There were thousands of them though so it is absurd to say he agrees with everything said in every one of them.
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Paul's problem is that he forms opinions and publicizes them based on weak knowledge and whatever is on his radar that week. Go look up the interview fromt he late night talk show where he said he didn't know anything about economics so he read a book about it and now is a genius. Yes A book about it.
There's nothing particularly bad about Paul. He's just wrong about most things and thinks he's a lot smarter than he is. Over confidence in your own conclusions is one of the worst traits a leader can possess.
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Weak knowledge? Do you even know who Ron Paul is? Even the pundits admit that he knows history. Do you even know what keynesianism is? Austrian economics? Non-Interventionism? Blowback? The law of unintended consequences? Free Markets? Civil Liberties? Legal Plunder? Property Rights are? Because Ron Paul has shown an extreme understanding on all these issues and has a voting record to back him.
The Paul haters are good examples of how our public education system has failed us.
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He didn't write them. Even the pundits who have been trying to attack him on every issue for years admit he did not write them. He wasn't even the editor of the newsletter.
See this is why Ron Paul supporters crack me up. If Obama makes a speech and says something dumb and then someone says "oh it doesn't matter because he didn't write the speech and didn't read it until he...well...read it" everyone would laugh. But that is basically the argument they are earnestly making.
The guy put his name on it. I don't think anyone is really arguing it shows he espouses those views themselves. The point is it reflects poorly on him that he let his name be put on a publication like that.
It isn't the end of the world or anything. But Ron Paul supporters are so convinced their dude is the perfect messiah that even the smallest attack sends them into paroxysms of butthurt.
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I agree it is a very small attack. How it is so newsworthy is the most puzzling thing about all of it
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I don't watch stupid tv news so I haven't seen anything about it. It has legs here on the Outpost because the Ron Paul zombies here keep making fools of themselves instead of just admitting it reflects badly on his judgment and moving on.
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He didn't write them. Even the pundits who have been trying to attack him on every issue for years admit he did not write them. He wasn't even the editor of the newsletter.
See this is why Ron Paul supporters crack me up. If Obama makes a speech and says something dumb and then someone says "oh it doesn't matter because he didn't write the speech and didn't read it until he...well...read it" everyone would laugh. But that is basically the argument they are earnestly making.
The guy put his name on it. I don't think anyone is really arguing it shows he espouses those views themselves. The point is it reflects poorly on him that he let his name be put on a publication like that.
It isn't the end of the world or anything. But Ron Paul supporters are so convinced their dude is the perfect messiah that even the smallest attack sends them into paroxysms of butthurt.
Fine then, show me a speech that Ron Paul said something dumb in instead of something someone else said. If not then STFU NOOB!
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Pretty much everything Ron Paul says is dumb. Even when he's right he usually manages to dumb it up.
But that's neither here nor there.
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I don't watch stupid tv news so I haven't seen anything about it. It has legs here on the Outpost because the Ron Paul zombies here keep making fools of themselves instead of just admitting it reflects badly on his judgment and moving on.
Well it is kinda in a response to the TV news. And it wasn't even really about the letters at all (at least my thread wasn't) but it was about CNN's obvious bias editing of the portrayal of the interview
How the publications became a huge issue I think is when people fell into the same original trap about it that happened weeks ago and is already a dead issue
I honestly don't know much about the letters other than:
They were racist/homophobic and posted in his publication
He didn't write them, nor was he the editor
It was printed while he was practicing medicine
It was over 20 years ago
He doesn't agree/support the views at all and disavows them
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Desnoxvu posted:
His fault was letting people like Lew Rockwell and other old school texans manage the editing of the letters.
Didn't members of his own family own the company that published the letters?
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The problem with the newsletter stuff is that he does attract and inflame crazy extremists. I don't even know why that's an argument. The centerpiece to nearly every one of his national campaigns has had revolution undertones.
Nearly all of his supporters have some degree of hero worship. They ignore a lot of what he says, because they have so much confidence in the underpinnings of his ideals. But a lot of what he says is either stupid or crazy.
Because of these two facts the newsletters get a lot of play. It's the very fact his supporters are so irrational about things like the newsletters that keeps things like the newsletters from going away.
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How do you put your name on something you don't even read? It came out once a month ffs. Is this the politics we should come to expect under a Paul administration? Watch my propaganda but don't pester me with the content?
Heres a simple solution: take your name off it when you're no longer involved! 
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Ashmaele posted:
Ron Paul solicitation letter
Lots of batsh!ttery in there, but this portion particularly catches the eye
I've been told not to talk, but these stooges don't scare me. Threats or no threats, I've laid bare the coming race war in our big cities. The federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS (my training as a physician helps me see through this one.) The Bonemian Grove--perverted, pagan playground of the powerful. Skull & Bones: the demonic fraternity that includes George Bush and leftist Senator John Kerry, Congress's Mr. New Money. The Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica. And the Soviet-style "smartcard" the Justice Department has in mind for you.
This guy is a moonbat. Between this and his racist noob newsletters I finally get why the GOP doesn't want this guy as their nominee.
What I don't understand is HOW this guy has been in Congress this long? How gerrymandered must Texas be that this guy keeps his seat like forever? He makes Michelle Bachmann look sane.
I don't think too highly of Ron Paul, but how can you be so gullible as to think he wrote that ?
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consider the alternatives.
Ron Paul is still like the only politician that at least seems trustworthy.. crazy or not, the guy doesn't flip flop, tells it like it is, and still has my vote even if I have to write his name in
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You guys are all going to vote for someone worse than Ron Paul.
This is a fact!
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Eradiani posted:
consider the alternatives.
When faced with status quo or moonbat crazy, one should have the wisdom and patience to wait 4 more years to change the status quo - Confucius
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That newsletter makes him look bad.
Obama went to a racist mnister for years and he still got elected. Of course most people really do think its okay for black people to be racist so we let it slde.
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GrilledCheez posted:
Paul's problem is that he forms opinions and publicizes them based on weak knowledge and whatever is on his radar that week. Go look up the interview fromt he late night talk show where he said he didn't know anything about economics so he read a book about it and now is a genius. Yes A book about it.
There's nothing particularly bad about Paul. He's just wrong about most things and thinks he's a lot smarter than he is. Over confidence in your own conclusions is one of the worst traits a leader can possess.
I can agree with this. He's been in an unchallenged seat in Congress for so long now that I think it's tinted his views on pretty much everything.
That said, I still wouldn't mind a term of his presidency. His particular type of dumbassery is just different than the other leading candidates, and maybe the main parties would get their shit in order if they realized that dumbasses like this are getting approval from the American people.
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