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Subject: Can I buy honor gear at level 82?
Just got back into the game. Can I buy honor gear with doing randoms? I am level 82 and like to level by PVP, random battle grounds. Can I buy gear for level 85 so I don't cap and waste the honor??

 

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Subject: Can I buy honor gear at level 82?
We used to be able to do this, but then Blizzard figured out they could increase your grind by dis-allowing it.


 

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Subject: Can I buy honor gear at level 82?
However you can grind honor once you hit cap starting buying JP points with it by the time you hit 85 you will have 4k of both and then you could turn around and buy honor points with those JP points and have enough honor to buy several pieces of PVP gear or vice versa and get several pieces of PVE gear.

 

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That's what I thought, thanks guys.

 

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its pretty retarded for the world pvpers...i started collecting heirlooms during my 80-85 since i kept capping out but i still haven't made any alts to use em on

 

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its pretty retarded for the world pvpers...i started collecting heirlooms during my 80-85 since i kept capping out but i still haven't made any alts to use em on


True, I don't know what difference it makes if you get a full set of honor pvp gear when you hit 85 or a a couple more days of grinding after 85, same with PVE JP gear.

 

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its pretty retarded for the world pvpers...i started collecting heirlooms during my 80-85 since i kept capping out but i still haven't made any alts to use em on


True, I don't know what difference it makes if you get a full set of honor pvp gear when you hit 85 or a a couple more days of grinding after 85, same with PVE JP gear.


The difference might be you have to resub for those few extra days grinding.

All part of the plan.

 

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The difference might be you have to resub for those few extra days grinding.

All part of the plan.


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The difference might be you have to resub for those few extra days grinding.

All part of the plan.


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i can understand if it were a system where honor points in lowbie battlegrounds couldn't be put towards buying the 85 gear since its a whole different ballgame there....but its stupid that the points u get from killing 85s as a lowbie can't be used to buy that 85 gear. i guess this way they don't have to waste time coming up with a fair system and they get to make the grind longer all in one.

 

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GutterSludge posted:
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The difference might be you have to resub for those few extra days grinding.

All part of the plan.


QFT



Something tells me this is going to be a mistake. Although, my son plays and wants to game with me once in awhile. I'll focus on that.

 

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i can understand if it were a system where honor points in lowbie battlegrounds couldn't be put towards buying the 85 gear since its a whole different ballgame there....but its stupid that the points u get from killing 85s as a lowbie can't be used to buy that 85 gear. i guess this way they don't have to waste time coming up with a fair system and they get to make the grind longer all in one.



How often does someone under level 85 kill a level 85 in this game? Not very often!

 

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a 79 killing an 80...I could see that in wrath...


An 84 killing an 85 in Cata?

Only if the 85 is afk...

 

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i killed a lot of 85s when i was leveling up. this was early in the expansion before people were well-geared, but i am sure there are plenty of 85s who still die to lowbies today.

 

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i killed a lot of 85s when i was leveling up. this was early in the expansion before people were well-geared, but i am sure there are plenty of 85s who still die to lowbies today.



So the point was that you wanted a system that allowed you to accumlate and spend points for level 85 gear before you hit 85, by killing level 85 players.

You killed what, a handful of lvl 85 players? Tops? So are you REALLY that mad over 73 honor lol? (Assuming you even went over cap.)


The system isn't there because it would just muddle things up and confuse people for very, very little practical gain for most players.

 

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no. i killed hundreds of 85s while leveling up, which yielded tens of thousands of honor. ideally there would be a system to reward such accomplishment rather than the current system which belittles it and wants you to wait until 85 and grind the points all over from scratch.

obviously such a system would not benefit the majority of players. but it is also this system which discourages people to engage in such world pvp in the first place since there is no significant reward. why risk attacking someone higher level than you if it would yield no fruit either way - that is probably what most players think.

 

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no. i killed hundreds of 85s while leveling up, which yielded tens of thousands of honor.


My bullshit alarm got so loud that my brain stopped working and that's as far as I could read.

 

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no. i killed hundreds of 85s while leveling up, which yielded tens of thousands of honor. ideally there would be a system to reward such accomplishment rather than the current system which belittles it and wants you to wait until 85 and grind the points all over from scratch.

obviously such a system would not benefit the majority of players. but it is also this system which discourages people to engage in such world pvp in the first place since there is no significant reward. why risk attacking someone higher level than you if it would yield no fruit either way - that is probably what most players think.



lets see...

1 honor per kill, would mean 10,000 kills to have 10,000 honor...

Since you said "tens of thousands", you must have earned at least 20k honor, so that's 20,000 kills on 85's, while you leveled from 80-84...??(since all of this honor came from killing "hundreds of 85's)

Sorry, but you just broke my "total-bullshit-o-meter".

Completely bent the needle into a nice neat spiral.

 

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your values are wrong. i got more than 1 point per kill. i am sure you would find it hard to believe either way since you are probably comparing my experiences to your own pvp experiences. anyways the point of my post was not to brag but to whine about how the system of pushing people to level to 85 as soon as possible and then grind only from that point on is lame.

 

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MY values are wrong?


roflmfao!

(and for your information, all i do is PVP...which is why I am able to tell you your post is 100% horseshit.)

 

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maybe you do pvp a lot - but if you believe that killing an 85 as an 80 while solo yields 1 honor point then you clearly are doing a different type of pvp. maybe you are misinformed or jealous or trolling...but i think it's time to stop responding.

 

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maybe you do pvp a lot - but if you believe that killing an 85 as an 80 while solo yields 1 honor point then you clearly are doing a different type of pvp. maybe you are misinformed or jealous or trolling...but i think it's time to stop responding.


First off, you can't even kill a fresh 85 at 80. So there's one lie. Secondly, it's mathematically impossible to kill "hundreds of players" and earn "tens of thousands" of honor. Since, you know, you need a minimum of 100 honor per kill. Which doesn't, and has never, happened. Two lies.

Want to go for three? Or are you done trying to puff your e-chest out?

 

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firstly, yes i can and have killed 85s as an 80. i don't deny that you probably cannot and have not based on your inability to wrap your head around it and your obvious rage.

secondly, you should probably go back and study some elementary school math if you think it would take 100 points per kill for those numbers to add up. hundreds means over 100. tens of thousands means over 10,000. did you even graduate high school?

 

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firstly, yes i can and have killed 85s as an 80. i don't deny that you probably cannot and have not based on your inability to wrap your head around it and your obvious rage.

secondly, you should probably go back and study some elementary school math if you think it would take 100 points per kill for those numbers to add up. hundreds means over 100. tens of thousands means over 10,000. did you even graduate high school?


Hundreds doesn't mean over 100. It means multiple hundreds. Minimum 200.

Tens of thousands doesn't mean over 10,000. It means multiple tens of thousands. Minimum 20,000.

20,000 / 200 = 100

There has never been a time in WoW where a single kill of any player, regardless of level difference, provided 100 honor.

Find me a video of a lvl 80 killing a lvl 85 that's actually fighting back.

Or since you're so capable of doing so, fraps it on your own?

Or you could do what you said and stop responding, since you're way out of your league here.

 

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Give up Arc, Shen has no comprehension of Math, English, or PVP.

 

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maybe you do pvp a lot - but if you believe that killing an 85 as an 80 while solo yields 1 honor point then you clearly are doing a different type of pvp. maybe you are misinformed or jealous or trolling...but i think it's time to stop responding.


The most honor one can gain in cata is 10 per kill, in tol barad.

You can get 9 in WG.

Open world is 1 point per kill.


Time for me to stop responding?

It's time for you to actually buy Cata, log in, and try to kill an 85 with an 80.

Mewanwhile, we will all still be here, laughing at your ignorance.



(Forget that 85's resist, dodge and parry probably 90% of an 80's attacks due to the 5 level difference, let alone 4 or 5 times the health)

The only way you could do this is if the 85 was afk, PERIOD.




 

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Shenron will stop responding now.

I hope he doesn't, but he will lol

 

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Where's that hemorrhoid pillow Cawlin posted...methinks someone will need it. whistling

 

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I dunno..

I mean, just for kicks, I soloed all 3 Frozen throne 5 mans with my DK (and even got the timed achieve in HOR) the other day on heroic, and only averaged about 18k dps as blood...(yes, in my PVP gear)


Hes got me thinking hes been doing crack, or meth, or something that has altered his brain in some way.





 

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