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Blizzard,
Are you going to address and ban Paragon and all the other guilds that are currently abusing and exploiting bugs in the LFR system to get full t13?
The below shows the guys gear
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/lightnings-blade/Wakoz/feed
And where a blue answers
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3061916824?page=8#156
We can indeed confirm that if you're getting loot from of a boss twice then it is an exploit.
This has always been the case in World of Warcraft, and we expect players to know better.
We’re in the process of implementing a hotfix to fix the exploit, and are deciding what steps we'll be taking for the gear that was already obtained.
Longer thread here US side:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657278530?page=1
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I don't see what there is to think about.
People got caught exploiting, ban them.
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Arcilite_I posted:
I don't see what there is to think about.
People got caught exploiting, ban them.
If it was some lil guild or unknown group they would get banned but see Paragon is Blizz's love child and they won't touch em they will maybe remove the gear but you can be 100% sure they won't ban em.
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Sounds as shifty as the communists and anarchists who are running the "occupy" program in the USA.
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Trigeminal posted:
Sounds as shifty as the communists and anarchists who are running the "occupy" program in the USA.
And this is why I have a love/hate relationship with this forum. The threads can be a real hoot, then the conspiracy theorists come out to show their true colors.
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croaks35 posted:
If it was some lil guild or unknown group they would get banned but see Paragon is Blizz's love child and they won't touch em they will maybe remove the gear but you can be 100% sure they won't ban em.
Sadly, this is true. They will NEVER ban people like paragon. Two speed justice is also true in MMO world, just like in real world.
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Trigeminal posted:
Sounds as shifty as the communists and anarchists who are running the "occupy" program in the USA.
Wow..that was quite a reach. And yeah, special interests and corporations that run the country like the Koch brothers aren't shifty at all... but are as pure as the driven snow.
Arcilite_I posted:
I don't see what there is to think about.
People got caught exploiting, ban them.
In other news, I agree with Arc on this one (whoah).
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Taloquin posted:
Trigeminal posted:
Sounds as shifty as the communists and anarchists who are running the "occupy" program in the USA.
And this is why I have a love/hate relationship with this forum. The threads can be a real hoot, then the conspiracy theorists come out to show their true colors.
Sorry but if you're still labeling people as conspiracy theorists, you don't deserve to breathe.
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Taloquin posted:
Trigeminal posted:
Sounds as shifty as the communists and anarchists who are running the "occupy" program in the USA.
And this is why I have a love/hate relationship with this forum. The threads can be a real hoot, then the conspiracy theorists come out to show their true colors.
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Spookysheep posted:
Taloquin posted:
Trigeminal posted:
Sounds as shifty as the communists and anarchists who are running the "occupy" program in the USA.
And this is why I have a love/hate relationship with this forum. The threads can be a real hoot, then the conspiracy theorists come out to show their true colors.
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Can't ban the guys they use to show off their content, now can they? 
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lmfao right?
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Sadly you guys are probably right, some people are more equal than others.
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Zero_Washu posted:
Sadly you guys are probably right, some people are more equal than others.
No.
Some people are just better than others.
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Wolfpaw_We posted:
Zero_Washu posted:
Sadly you guys are probably right, some people are more equal than others.
No.
Some people are just better than others.
Better how? Better players don't cheat. Or better at sucking up to Blizzard? That I could believe.
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Zero_Washu posted:
Wolfpaw_We posted:
Zero_Washu posted:
Sadly you guys are probably right, some people are more equal than others.
No.
Some people are just better than others.
Better how? Better players don't cheat. Or better at sucking up to Blizzard? That I could believe.
Better at cheating, obviously.
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obviously they can't ban a guild that blizz employees are a members of. it was probably a blizzard employee that told them to try "the eploit" in the first place.
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Zero_Washu posted:
Wolfpaw_We posted:
Zero_Washu posted:
Sadly you guys are probably right, some people are more equal than others.
No.
Some people are just better than others.
Better how? Better players don't cheat. Or better at sucking up to Blizzard? That I could believe.
Better people, duh?
Preferred customers, if you want a more serious answer.
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Wolfpaw_We posted:
Zero_Washu posted:
Wolfpaw_We posted:
[quote=Zero_Washu]Sadly you guys are probably right, some people are more equal than others.
No.
Some people are just better than others.
Better how? Better players don't cheat. Or better at sucking up to Blizzard? That I could believe.
Better people, duh?
Preferred customers, if you want a more serious answer.[/quote]
THAT I can understand.
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I would bet that the Paragon members are all massive dbags, most of the top raid guilds on each server usually were in my experience. Being one of the top in the world would only make it worse I would guess.
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I wonder why anyone cares. The LFR loot is the bottom tier of the 3 tiers of raid loot, so you'd think they would just work on the normal/heroic modes rather than having to do it all over again. Then again, self-flagellation might be something they enjoy. /shrug
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seems some people are gettin 3-8 day ban
nothing confirmed but Paragon put an apology on there website *shrug*
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Elaok posted:
seems some people are gettin 3-8 day ban
nothing confirmed but Paragon put an apology on there website *shrug*
Would have no "famous" (aka "no-life") guild been involved, you can be sure it would have been perma-bans, or at least much longer bans.
This said, 8 days for a guild like paragon must be awful... if Blizzard unlocks the last raid this week, they won't be world first...
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Seems to me Blizzards quality control department should be the ones getting docked 3-8 days pay and a thank you letter sent to Paragon for finding the exploit is what should be in order here.
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Seems to me Blizzards quality control department should be the ones getting docked 3-8 days pay and a thank you letter sent to Paragon for finding the exploit is what should be in order here.
Problem is, paragon exploited the bug without reporting it. So no, there's no thank you letter needed here.
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The_Korrigan posted:
Sociop posted:
Seems to me Blizzards quality control department should be the ones getting docked 3-8 days pay and a thank you letter sent to Paragon for finding the exploit is what should be in order here.
Problem is, paragon exploited the bug without reporting it. So no, there's no thank you letter needed here.
A Blizzard employee most likely gave them the tip to utilize the bug, why bother reporting it when it's probably already known heh
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this is WoW where there is millions of videos and addons that help you kill any raid boss. I laugh when people say top guilds because any group of people that has enough time can be a top guild.
that being said it seems like the same "top guilds" exploit every new raid that comes out.
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that being said it seems like the same "top guilds" exploit every new raid that comes out.
It is definitely funny to see the same guild names pop up every time something gets exploited in new content.
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I highly doubt anyone would get perma banned for exploiting. Seriously, it's not about the game, it's about the $$.
On a side note, if you sign a year's contract, and you get perma banned, what does the fine print say? Do they still try to take your money for a year?
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I wonder why anyone cares. The LFR loot is the bottom tier of the 3 tiers of raid loot, so you'd think they would just work on the normal/heroic modes rather than having to do it all over again. Then again, self-flagellation might be something they enjoy. /shrug
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I highly doubt anyone would get perma banned for exploiting. Seriously, it's not about the game, it's about the $$.
On a side note, if you sign a year's contract, and you get perma banned, what does the fine print say? Do they still try to take your money for a year?
They'd be facing a lawsuit if that were the case, so I doubt it.
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I highly doubt anyone would get perma banned for exploiting. Seriously, it's not about the game, it's about the $$.
On a side note, if you sign a year's contract, and you get perma banned, what does the fine print say? Do they still try to take your money for a year?
you can't even have your CC info removed if you sign up for it, however I doubt they would even attempt to charge anyone
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lol
http://www.paragon.fi/news/lfr-apology
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We're sorry. Pleeze don't banz0r us! We worked hard for these oranges and purples.
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lol
http://www.paragon.fi/news/lfr-apology
It wasn't a bad apology as far as they go. They did mention others were doing it, but didn't make too many excuses either.
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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:
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lol
http://www.paragon.fi/news/lfr-apology
It wasn't a bad apology as far as they go. They did mention others were doing it, but didn't make too many excuses either.
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Meh.
Crap game.
Crap loot.
Who cares?
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lol
http://www.paragon.fi/news/lfr-apology
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"Sorry we got caught..."
the tank 4 sets are super powerful and the trinkets are also damn good that is why it was very shady for them to exploit it
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I honestly don't understand how the LFR weights the rolls.
Just had a druid win both of the daggers off the last deathwing encounter, and they already had a 391 staff. How was his need weighted higher than me who has a 370's weapon and several others who still had 333's?
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lol
http://www.paragon.fi/news/lfr-apology
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PallyDog posted:
I highly doubt anyone would get perma banned for exploiting. Seriously, it's not about the game, it's about the $$.
On a side note, if you sign a year's contract, and you get perma banned, what does the fine print say? Do they still try to take your money for a year?
Doesn't matter what they try to do. You could always charge it back through the CC company with no problem at all. At least that is the way it is in the US, not sure of the EU.
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All I read was:
"We're only sorry because we got caught."
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The_Korrigan posted:
Would have no "famous" (aka "no-life") guild been involved, you can be sure it would have been perma-bans, or at least much longer bans.
That's highly unlikely.
Can you name a single guild that was perma-banned for a one-time use of a buggy game mechanic? I know of one guild that got a temporary ban for modding the game files to allow them to fall through the world to c'thun, which seems pretty extreme as far as cheating. I know of another guild that got disbanded because they encouraged cheating and harassment, but I don't think they were permabanned.
Edit: the c'thun raid who hacked the gamefiles was permabanned.
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knight-of-ni posted:
The_Korrigan posted:
Would have no "famous" (aka "no-life") guild been involved, you can be sure it would have been perma-bans, or at least much longer bans.
That's highly unlikely.
Can you name a single guild that was perma-banned for a one-time use of a buggy game mechanic? I know of one guild that got a temporary ban for modding the game files to allow them to fall through the world to c'thun, which seems pretty extreme as far as cheating. I know of another guild that got disbanded because they encouraged cheating and harassment, but I don't think they were permabanned.
Edit: the c'thun raid who hacked the gamefiles was permabanned.
Sparked my interest so I looked it up for you.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/wow-guild-banned-6160983
The World of Warcraft guild Overrated has been permanently banned by Blizzard Entertainment after it was caught cheating in the massively multiplayer online role-playing game. Guild members used an exploit that essentially knocked down walls, according to postings on World of Warcraft-related forums.
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The c'thun trash was horrible. It took hours for my guild to clear trash mobs just to twin emps. That whole dungeon was kind of messed up and stupid, plus I never got the red bug mount.
I believe there was public outcry when this became public, and kind of forced blizzard's hand. My memory is fuzzy since it was so long ago, but I think they dished out temporary bans, then made them permanent.
I also managed to pull cthun from the entrance, once. It was hilarious. The raid was getting eyebeamed, mass hysteria. That was when warlock's imps could walk through walls and stuff.
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