Author Topic: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
Boy_Kai_HG 
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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
So I took a 5 year break, I came back about 6 months ago. I am having a problem where my two old school characters (that I created in 2000 and 2003), lag HARDCORE compared to my other characters that I have just created (Oct 30, 20011). I have 2 accounts, I dual log them all the time. I have done these combos of logins:

Old Char - Old Char
Old Char - New Char
New Char - Old Char
New Char - New Char

No matter what the combo, no matter what the account, the older characters lag noticeably more.

I will be doing the same thing, with 2 different chars with the same gear, the same lvl, the same place, everything.

I notice the lag most when I turn on Vtank. My old chars cannot run routes due to them lagging too hard and over turning continuously. My newly made chars have no problem at all, they are lag free.

Anyone have any suggestions to what the problem might be?
Thank You for your help!!




OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation

System Manufacturer INTEL_
System Model PRODUCT3
System Type X86-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz, 3392 Mhz, 1 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. BZ87510A.86A.0076.P16.0310241132, 10/24/2003
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 3.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 2.85 GB
Available Physical Memory 821 MB
Total Virtual Memory 5.70 GB
Available Virtual Memory 3.57 GB
Page File Space 2.85 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

 

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Saloben_ign 
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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
See if you have any /filter 's on those characters turned on.

 

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Boy_Kai_HG 
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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
I did "/unfilter -all" and i'm still laggin' like crazy on my older chars.

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RoogonII 
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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
Your BIOS has me concerned ..
" BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. BZ87510A.86A.0076.P16.0310241132, 10/24/2003 "
(Noteing the '2003' ..)

Can you give us a Decal export so we can see your graphics numbers?

 

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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.5

type, enabled, name, version, location, clsid
Plugins, 1, Virindi Tank, 0.3.1.75, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiTank\\\\\\\utank2-i.dll, {642F1F48-16BE-48BF-B1D4-286652C4533E}
Plugins, 0, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\DHS.dll, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Integrator2 Beta, 1.0.1.8, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiIntegrator2\\Integrator2Client.dll, {7882AE88-CB68-4C98-BB94-90204C2D2156}
Plugins, 1, Virindi Item Tool, 1.0.0.8, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiItemTool\VirindiItemTool.dll, {7BCA75A3-CC65-456B-BBB1-6383FB072B60}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Sense, 1.0.0.0, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiSense\VirindiSense.dll, {8625358A-9ED1-4166-9CD6-8F9BBAD1359B}
Plugins, 1, Virindi Reporter, 0.0.0.8, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiReporter\VirindiReporter.dll, {8C70FF56-0E53-4265-9E19-C4534A8D3AA8}
Plugins, 0, LifeTank X, 11.9.0.9, C:\Games\LTCore.dll, {910C0F8E-827A-4E35-A980-50D57D0B1296}
Plugins, 0, Virindi HUDs, 1.0.0.8, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiHUDs\VirindiHUDs.dll, {C6B1DF06-FF20-459E-8302-AA346CBFDA01}
Plugins, 0, GoArrow (VVS Edition), 2.0.0.0, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\GoArrow.dll, {5E8D5E3D-C04D-4976-98B6-9A8DCBC4212D}
Plugins, 0, Mule Trade It!, 0.0.0.368, C:\Games\MuleTradeIt!.dll, {9D762D6E-6444-485A-B242-C50386013763}
Plugins, 1, SSSort (VVS Edition), 3.0.0.1, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\SSSortVVSEdition\SSSort.dll, {D77DAD0D-75C7-425D-96AE-E8B3E1366EF3}
Plugins, 0, Alinco3buffs, 1.0.1.10, C:\Games\Decal Plugins\Alinco3Buffs\Alinco3Buffs.dll, {57085C14-9889-492D-8E8B-B9BB1054564D}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Chat System 5, 5.0.0.4, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiChatSystem5\VCS5.dll, {0A7B25AC-79A9-4F6A-9751-419B87A7BB05}
Plugins, 1, Mag-Tools, 1.0.8.3, C:\Games\Decal Plugins\MagTools.dll, {959D5CA6-0BD5-48A2-9AD2-F95F94DCDC3E}
Plugins, 0, Alinco3, 1.0.1.10, C:\games\Decal Plugins\Alinco3\Alinco.dll, {ED1645F2-7BE3-44C0-8677-F64252F79309}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Hotkey System, 1.0.0.4, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiHotkeySystem\VirindiHotkeySystem.dll, {ED7CC818-7159-461F-A833-4CA49E1C85B6}
Network Filters, 1, Virindi AutomaticUpdatesFilter, 1.0.0.6, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiAutomaticUpdatesFilter\VirindiAutomaticUpdatesFilter.dll, {108ED493-48AD-42A6-AADC-EF773E4F185A}
Network Filters, 1, ACDC Core Filter, 7.2.2.0, C:\Games\ACDCCore.dll, {2DB1B641-4039-4D69-831A-79915EC266CE}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalFilters.dll, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalFilters.dll, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalFilters.dll, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\Decal.FileService.dll, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalFilters.dll, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\SpellFilter.dll, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Network Filters, 1, Darkside Filter, 11.9.0.9, C:\Games\DarksideFilter.dll, {F93FD48F-BA68-4BF5-A7B3-7908D1634331}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decaldat.dll, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\/Decal.Adapter.dll, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalInput.dll, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalnet.dll, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Virindi View Service Bootstrapper, 99.99.99.99, C:/Games/VirindiPlugins/VirindiViewService/VirindiViewServiceBootstrap.DLL, {DBAC9286-B38D-4570-961F-D4D9349AE3D4}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\D3DService.dll, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalrender.dll, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\Inject.dll, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\Inject.dll, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalFilters.dll, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\/Decal.Adapter.dll, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\Decal.DLL, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalInput.dll, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalInput.dll, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalInput.dll, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalInput.dll, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalInput.dll, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.5, C:\Games\decalInput.dll, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)

[Protected Storage Service] : Manual

Decal Settings
[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\AC
[Launcher App] : ACDCClient.exe
[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 26816 bytes, Version 0.0.11.4069
[messages.xml] : 54652 bytes, Version 2011.02.25.0
[Video Memory] : 334995456

D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)
[d3dx9_31.dll] : Installed (9.15.779.0)
[d3dx9_32.dll] : Installed (9.16.843.0)
[d3dx9_33.dll] : Installed (9.18.904.15)
[d3dx9_34.dll] : Installed (9.19.949.46)
[d3dx9_35.dll] : Installed (9.19.949.1104)
[d3dx9_36.dll] : Installed (9.19.949.2111)
[d3dx9_37.dll] : Installed (9.22.949.2248)
[d3dx9_38.dll] : Installed (9.23.949.2378)
[d3dx9_39.dll] : Installed (9.24.949.2307)
[d3dx9_40.dll] : Installed (9.24.950.2656)
[d3dx9_41.dll] : Installed (9.26.952.2844)
[d3dx9_42.dll] : Installed (9.27.952.3001)
[d3dx9_43.dll] : Installed (9.29.952.3111)
[d3dx9_44.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_45.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_46.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_47.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_48.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_49.dll] : Not Installed


---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 2)
[v3.0] (3.0) : Installed (Service Pack 2)
[v3.5] (3.5) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v4] (4.0) : Installed (Version: 4.0.30319)

C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.98.15)
[atl70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[mfc70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcr70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcp70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[atl71.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc71.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr71.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcp71.dll] : Not Installed

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.110.7601.17514)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.30.2107.0)
[msxml5.dll] : Not Installed
[msxml6.dll] : Installed (6.30.7601.17514)


---Video Device Information---
[Device] : ATI RADEON 9600 Series (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM)
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4150&SUBSYS_7C20174B&REV_00
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{B15765C4-6266-4CE2-99DA-30738569CEBF}\0000
[Manufacturer] : ATI Technologies Inc.
[ChipType] : ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x4150)
[DACType] : Internal DAC(400MHz)
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 319 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 319 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (59Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (59Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1920
[DisplayHeight] : 1200
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 59
[MonitorName] : Generic PnP Monitor
[MonitorMaxRes] :
[DriverName] : atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.cap,atitmmxx.dll
[DriverVersion] : 8.14.0010.0630
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 7/13/2009 20:14:55
[DriverDateLocal] : 7/13/2009 8:14:55 PM
[DriverSize] : 4030976
[MiniVdd] : n/a
[MiniVddDateEng] : n/a
[MiniVddDateLocal] : n/a
[MiniVddSize] : 0
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
[Beta] : No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
[Identifier] : {D7B71EE2-0210-11CF-8D76-2A5CA1C2C535}
[DDIVer] : 9
[DDIVerEng] : 9Ex
[DDIVerLocal] : 9Ex
[iAdapter] : 0
[VendorID] : 0x1002
[DeviceID] : 0x4150
[SubSystemID] : 0x7C20174B
[RevisionID] : 0x0000
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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Virindi-Inquisitor 
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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
Network Filters, 1, Darkside Filter, 11.9.0.9, C:\Games\DarksideFilter.dll, {F93FD48F-BA68-4BF5-A7B3-7908D1634331}

This is the LTX filter. If you uncheck LTX, you really need to uncheck Darkside Filter as well.

Uncheck it and try again.

 

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Boy_Kai_HG 
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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
Ahh, that makes sense, my old chars were the only ones I've used Life Tank on...I'm gonna try that out.

Thx, I'll let ya know.

Just turned that off, it still doesn't work. =/

I'm gonna delete EVERYTHING and reinstall everything then report my log for you guys.

 

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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
I just uninstalled and re-installed everything relating to AC. I still have the same problem


1) Earlier were you instructing me to turn off all of my decal filters or ingame filters?

2) I'm not sure if this helps, but the computer I am currently using I used to play AC years ago. So is there anyway that some files are embedded in my computer from way back when that relate to my old characters. Which is causing the problem? If so, how to I clear out those files?

When I re-installed AC, I noticed that some of the files had Modify Dates from back in 2004, even though I just uninstalled EVERYTHING AC related, restarted, and re-installed.


Here is my new Export:



Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.0

type, enabled, name, version, location, clsid
Plugins, 0, Virindi Integrator2 Beta, 1.0.1.8, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiIntegrator2\Integrator2Client.dll, {7882AE88-CB68-4C98-BB94-90204C2D2156}
Plugins, 0, Virindi HUDs, 1.0.0.8, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiHUDs\VirindiHUDs.dll, {C6B1DF06-FF20-459E-8302-AA346CBFDA01}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Hotkey System, 1.0.0.4, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiHotkeySystem\VirindiHotkeySystem.dll, {ED7CC818-7159-461F-A833-4CA49E1C85B6}
Plugins, 0, SSSort (VVS Edition), 3.0.0.1, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\SSSortVVSEdition\SSSort.dll, {D77DAD0D-75C7-425D-96AE-E8B3E1366EF3}
Plugins, 1, Virindi Reporter, 0.0.0.8, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiReporter\VirindiReporter.dll, {8C70FF56-0E53-4265-9E19-C4534A8D3AA8}
Plugins, 1, Virindi Sense, 1.0.0.0, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiSense\VirindiSense.dll, {8625358A-9ED1-4166-9CD6-8F9BBAD1359B}
Plugins, 1, Virindi Item Tool, 1.0.0.8, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiItemTool\VirindiItemTool.dll, {7BCA75A3-CC65-456B-BBB1-6383FB072B60}
Plugins, 1, Virindi Tank, 0.3.1.75, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiTank\utank2-i.dll, {642F1F48-16BE-48BF-B1D4-286652C4533E}
Plugins, 0, GoArrow (VVS Edition), 2.0.0.0, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\GoArrowVVSEdition\GoArrow.dll, {5E8D5E3D-C04D-4976-98B6-9A8DCBC4212D}
Plugins, 0, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\DHS.dll, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Chat System 5, 5.0.0.4, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiChatSystem5\VCS5.dll, {0A7B25AC-79A9-4F6A-9751-419B87A7BB05}
Network Filters, 1, Virindi AutomaticUpdatesFilter, 1.0.0.6, C:\Games\VirindiPlugins\VirindiAutomaticUpdatesFilter\VirindiAutomaticUpdatesFilter.dll, {108ED493-48AD-42A6-AADC-EF773E4F185A}
Network Filters, 1, ACDC Core Filter, 7.2.2.0, C:\Games\ACDCCore.dll, {2DB1B641-4039-4D69-831A-79915EC266CE}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\Decal.FileService.dll, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\SpellFilter.dll, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\/Decal.Adapter.dll, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decaldat.dll, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalrender.dll, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\Inject.dll, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalnet.dll, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Virindi View Service Bootstrapper, 99.99.99.99, C:/Games/VirindiPlugins/VirindiViewService/VirindiViewServiceBootstrap.DLL, {DBAC9286-B38D-4570-961F-D4D9349AE3D4}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\D3DService.dll, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\/Decal.Adapter.dll, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\Decal.dll, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\Inject.dll, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)

[Protected Storage Service] : Manual

Decal Settings
[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\Games\AC
[Launcher App] : acclient.exe
[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 26816 bytes, Version 0.0.11.4069
[messages.xml] : 54652 bytes, Version 2011.02.25.0
[Video Memory] : 334995456

D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)


---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 2)

C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.98.15)
[atl70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[mfc70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcr70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcp70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[atl71.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc71.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr71.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcp71.dll] : Not Installed

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.110.7601.17514)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.30.2107.0)


---Video Device Information---
[Device] : ATI RADEON 9600 Series (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM)
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4150&SUBSYS_7C20174B&REV_00
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{B15765C4-6266-4CE2-99DA-30738569CEBF}\0000
[Manufacturer] : ATI Technologies Inc.
[ChipType] : ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x4150)
[DACType] : Internal DAC(400MHz)
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 319 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 319 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (59Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (59Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1920
[DisplayHeight] : 1200
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 59
[MonitorName] : Generic PnP Monitor
[MonitorMaxRes] :
[DriverName] : atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.cap,atitmmxx.dll
[DriverVersion] : 8.14.0010.0630
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 7/13/2009 20:14:55
[DriverDateLocal] : 7/13/2009 8:14:55 PM
[DriverSize] : 4030976
[MiniVdd] : n/a
[MiniVddDateEng] : n/a
[MiniVddDateLocal] : n/a
[MiniVddSize] : 0
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
[Beta] : No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
[Identifier] : {D7B71EE2-0210-11CF-8D76-2A5CA1C2C535}
[DDIVer] : 9
[DDIVerEng] : 9Ex
[DDIVerLocal] : 9Ex
[iAdapter] : 0
[VendorID] : 0x1002
[DeviceID] : 0x4150
[SubSystemID] : 0x7C20174B
[RevisionID] : 0x0000
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
Is there a large difference in inventory count between the old chars and the new? i.e. do you only have problems with toons that have full packs?

 

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Hey Move, I haven't seen that name in yeaaars.

You know I still have a UA inscribed by you on HG. =D



No, the characters have the same amount of pack space.

 

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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
When you say "I notice the lag most when I turn on Vtank" do you mean that
when vtank is off that you don't notice lag issue?

I don't use VTank but a guess would be that old toons are not configured in Vtank correctly.
I'd clear any settings in vtank where you select weapon/shield/casters etc and then add them back.
For some reason I suspect that old characters have invalid ID stored from one of the times Turbine
re-sequence ID numbers.

 

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I just re-installed everything so the items have been reset, but I'll do it manually too and let ya know if that helps.

They do lag more when vtank is off as well, but it gets unbearable when i turn on vtank.

 

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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
Does it lag more on those characters if VTank is not running also (as in, unchecked in Decal)?

 

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i've noticed this as well in a less analyzed way.

Since the last patch it seems to take longer to change characters in general.

What is interesting to me at least, is that I used to notice this on my laptop some months ago as being REALLY slow to log in, then all of a sudden it wasn't like that and was "normal" now it's taking a long time again, but this time on both my laptop and my PC.

I've really not changed anything other than adding mag tools, but i did that only about a week or so ago and the long login times began before that.

I can't say i notice it more or less depending on the born on date of the toon though....

What i do notice is that when running a route or just keeping vtank running (verses paused) i lag a LOT more on my mage and in certain dungeons more than others.

For example running a route on my mage on the bottom level of EO is painfully laggy while no big deal on my melee toons. Meanwhile as long as I keep my mage up at the slayers/slasher levels, it's not as bad (though still laggy with vtank active).

 

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Freezing up while logging in is most likely due to GoArrow. Since the acmaps.com website has been down, GoArrow spends a bunch of time at login trying to load info from the site and won't let you in until it times out.

You could always disable GoArrow if this is a big problem.

 

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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
So, the older chars lag slightly more without any decal enabled.

The HUGE difference is when I turn on Vtank.

Example:
My OLD UA char, will be SOOO laggy that he won't be able to change weapons without coming near death. The animation is almost completely lost. Even when he is attacking, you can't see the animation of him attacking. He cannot use the nav system at all unless i'm doing a SINGLE point nav.

My NEW Dagger char, will change weapons flawlessly, you can see every attack he makes, he can also navigate due to not over turning like my OLD UA.


I honestly can't tell you the difference in lag without Vtank enabled. TradeIt has the same effect as Vtank.

I think the problem might be that I used this same computer to run AC back in 2004. Is there anyway old embedded files might have an effect?


I wish I could just show ya IRL.

 

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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
Just compared my chars without anything turned on:


Old char: 30% lag
New char: 0% lag

Vtank On:
Old char: 90% lag
New char: 5% lag


Those percentages are just my feelings on lag, not computer readouts or anything techincal.

 

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If other plugins cause the same effect, it is likely that your computer does not have sufficient resources. Try reducing your video settings in AC: landscape draw distance, landscape detail, and possibly environment detail.

 

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I already have graphic settings on lowest, on all chars.



What I don't understand is why my computer will run PERFECTLY with my NEW chars, and HORRIFICALLY with my OLD chars.

It has to be something with old files or something of that nature.

 

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Subject: Vtank: Old Chars Are Lagging, while New Chars Are Fine
What level are the toons that are 'Old'?
Maybe it would be easier to re-roll then to figure out why. Course
you would be leaving us without a solution to the puzzle and
we know "House" does not like that. happy


I'm sitting about to drink my first cup of wake up juice and was
thinking old character are laggy... well dang what do you expect
ain't that like r/l. happy


Given that you said you did dual client "New" "New", I have to assume
your machine is ok with doing dual client. That makes me think that you
have some toon setting(s) different between 'New' and 'Old'. Get IG
with an old and new and make the old settings look like you have on your working new.
Sound/Graphic settings could be the cause.







 

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Both of the OLD chars are 275. There were lagging from 180+, I just came back to the game 6-8 months ago and they were 180.


My NEW chars are both 200+ right now. So it's pretty much the same thing. They are hunting in the same place and all that.


Also, the graphics and everything IG has the same settings.

 

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Turns out, I had <All Peas> turned on, on both of the OLD chars. lol

Virindi Inquiz, is the shit!

Thanks for everyone's help.

 

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It's not that you did anything wrong, it's more that the all peas option is unexpectedly slow. I need to look at it.

 

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