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omfg. why do i keep coming across this word being used to convey like.. the complete opposite of what it means? when socal lost power last week i read the second kitty norville book and at the end, the dumb bitch used nonplussed wrong. i was as close to the as i've ever been.

 

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Kitty Goes to Washington posted:
“Tell me how the hear­ings went to­day.”

I was sup­posed to be her spy, then? “I think C-SPAN was broad­cast­ing. At least they had cam­eras there. You could have watched it for your­self.”

She nar­rowed her gaze. “I was in­dis­posed.”

I shrugged, non­plussed. “You could tape it. Heck, you could prob­ably down­load it off the Web.” I didn't know if the old vam­pires even used the In­ter­net. She prob­ably let her min­ions do that.


It seems like an OK usage to me, perhaps a little exaggerated but Vaughn has a fetish for 'non' words. If the sentence read, "I shrugged, uncertain. "You could tape it....".....

 

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here's how i read it: "I shrugged, confused."

 

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I think nonplussed is supposed to combine confusion and uncertainty. It is like, extra perplexed.

"I shrugged, perplexed." works for me there.

 

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she wasn't perplexed. she knew it was aired in the afternoon and that she was talking to a vampire.

 

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Three possibilities:


1. She wasn't giving her actual mental state, she was giving a nonplussed shrug as part of her feigning thickheadedness.

2. She was actually perplexed about what exactly the vampire was getting at and/or rather or not her suggestion of taping or downloading the hearing would be taken seriously. Or even why the vampire didn't think to tape it to begin with. Sometimes Kitty is so disingenuous that it morphs in to seriousness.

3. The author misused the word.


I'm not buying #3 just because of the tone of the section; if the author meant something contrary to confusion she wouldn't have it in the same paragraph as Kitty pondering rather or not vampires use the internet. I think #2 makes more sense than #1 exactly because the paragraph is being disingenuous and then pondering.

I've actually decided that Kitty is confused about why she didn't just tape it.

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IT IS CLEARLY #3! HOW DARE YOU ATTEMPT TO MAKE ME CONSIDER ANYTHING BUT MISUSE OF A WORD THAT IS CONSTANTLY MISUSED!

 

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non·plussed
adjective /nän'pl?st/

(of a person) Surprised and confused so much that they are unsure how to react
- he would be completely nonplussed and embarrassed at the idea

(of a person) Not disconcerted; unperturbed


Web definitions

at a loss(p): filled with bewilderment; "at a loss to understand those remarks"; "puzzled that she left without saying goodbye"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

(nonplus) perplex: be a mystery or bewildering to; "This beats me!"; "Got me--I don't know the answer!"; "a vexing problem"; "This question really stuck me"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Confusion (from Latin confusio, -onis, noun of action from confundere "to pour together", also "to confuse") of a pathological degree usually refers to loss of orientation (ability to place oneself correctly in the world by time, Citing: Dorland's Medical Dictionary for Health Consumers. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonplussed

(Nonplus) Konstruktivits is a British industrial band. Formed in 1982, they were mostly active in the 1980s, with recording activity continuing until today.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonplus

Bewildered; unsure how to respond; Unfazed, unaffected, or unimpressed
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nonplussed

(nonplus) A state of perplexity or bewilderment; to perplex or bewilder someone; to confound or flummox
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nonplus

does not mean you don't care; non-plussed means you're bewildered.
english-language-skills.com/item/111-deepen-your-vocabulary.


It's a broad word. It was used fine in your example.


 

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Cao. You were WRONG ON THE INTERNET!

 

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I WAS NOT! not_talking

also, i just read a short story that used inept wrong like 17 times. i don't think the friend that asked me to proof read was ready for the diatribe she got in response. i still don't know what she thought it meant. the uses were so varied and always SO wrong.

 

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So would you say she was inept at using the word?

 

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yes. yes i would. laugh

 

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I still prefer that kind of thing to Gaiman or King who think using multiple paragraph long run on sentences is okay if they feel that it fits the pace of the introduction or plot line that they're trying to introduce or that stringing together lots of conjunctions is completely fine as long as you are expressing some kind of concise point describing imagery or fundamentals of character development along with providing something that is marginally interesting to say so long as it fits in to what your idea of good writing is, and who is to say what good writing is; Both of them are best selling authors so they can pretty much get away with doing whatever the hell they want(of course sometimes they do it with brackets and other such nonsense as though they're writing an aside and it makes it very confusing to understand what they're saying as a whole, but they just keep on going without giving the reader a chance to take a break).

 

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this sort of reminds me of the minor rant harry went on about the usage of the term "decimated" at the end of ghost story tongue

 

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nonplussed is like inflammible in the UK. Only this time its the colonies' fault.

Oxford says:
nonplussed

Pronunciation:/n?n'pl?st/

adjective
1 so surprised and confused that one is unsure how to react:
Henry looked completely nonplussed
2 North American informal not disconcerted; unperturbed.

Usage
In standard use nonplussed means ‘surprised and confused’, as in she was nonplussed at his eagerness to help out. In North American English a new use has developed in recent years, meaning ‘unperturbed’ — more or less the opposite of its traditional meaning — as in he was clearly trying to appear nonplussed. This new use probably arose on the assumption that non- was the normal negative prefix and must therefore have a negative meaning. It is not considered part of standard English


So if Oxford disses the new Amerukin definition then I'm down with that.

 

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Onslaught. posted:
I still prefer that kind of thing to Gaiman or King who think using multiple paragraph long run on sentences is okay if they feel that it fits the pace of the introduction or plot line that they're trying to introduce or that stringing together lots of conjunctions is completely fine as long as you are expressing some kind of concise point describing imagery or fundamentals of character development along with providing something that is marginally interesting to say so long as it fits in to what your idea of good writing is, and who is to say what good writing is; Both of them are best selling authors so they can pretty much get away with doing whatever the hell they want(of course sometimes they do it with brackets and other such nonsense as though they're writing an aside and it makes it very confusing to understand what they're saying as a whole, but they just keep on going without giving the reader a chance to take a break).


Lol

Still enjoy those two, but that's certainly true.

 

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Apt usage. I think it threw you because she/he led off with it before relating the characters thoughts fully.

 

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