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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage/display/20110906223347_Seagate_Initiates_Shipments_of_4TB_Hard_Disk_Drives.html
Seagate is shipping the first 4TB hard drive. And like with the first 3TB drive, unfortunately it is only available as an external drive at first. But at $230 the price is still not too bad.
The drive includes four 1TB drive platters. And if you do decide to rip the thing open and put the internal drive inside your computer, you'll need a SATA controller capable of supporting 4TB drives (Jmicron JMB36x seem to work, some Intels don't).
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005IA843W
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Think my 3TB drive just went bust. Been running a chkdsk for 24 hours straight now and it's still running. Ugh, only had it 2 months. Might be needing a 4TB drive soon. 
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You are just using it as an excuse! LOLHave you tried MHDD? http://hddguru.com/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/
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So they have single 1TB platter HDD, I'd like a single 1TB HDD at 7200 rpm and 32mb of cache
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So they have single 1TB platter HDD, I'd like a single 1TB HDD at 7200 rpm and 32mb of cache
Just so happens Hitachi announced just that a couple days ago. From their statement, they are the first to release a single platter 1TB drive.
"The Deskstar 7K1000.D and the 5K1000.B both use the new 1TB platters. Both lines ship with a 32MB buffer, varying only in their rotational speed. The 7K1000 spins at 7200RPM while the 5K1000 implements Hitachi GST's CoolSpin technology."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4739/hitachi-ships-first-35-hdd-with-1tb-platters
Don't see any retailers with it yet, but Hitachi says it's shipping now. So should be available very soon.
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Nice. I will need new drive soon, kinda running out of room  .
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Rezist posted:
So they have single 1TB platter HDD, I'd like a single 1TB HDD at 7200 rpm and 32mb of cache
Just so happens Hitachi announced just that a couple days ago. From their statement, they are the first to release a single platter 1TB drive.
"The Deskstar 7K1000.D and the 5K1000.B both use the new 1TB platters. Both lines ship with a 32MB buffer, varying only in their rotational speed. The 7K1000 spins at 7200RPM while the 5K1000 implements Hitachi GST's CoolSpin technology."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4739/hitachi-ships-first-35-hdd-with-1tb-platters
Don't see any retailers with it yet, but Hitachi says it's shipping now. So should be available very soon.
Too bad it's not samsung or WD releasing it, does Hitachi make reliable drives?
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does Hitachi make reliable drives?
Yes in my experiences. They made the IBM Deskstar line.
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I usually had the impression that Hitachi focused more on laptop hard drives than desktop. There platter density with laptop drives seems to always be very competitive, but they would lag behind with their desktop drives. Hitachi's first 1TB drive was a beastly 4 or 5 platter monster while Samsung was releasing a 3 platter drive 1TB drive.
So it kinda surprised me that they got a 1TB platter density for desktop drives and would be the first to release a single platter 1TB drive.
Western Digital bought Hitachi back in March though.
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im scared to put so much data on a single drive. but then again i have never had a drive fail in my 15 years or so of computing
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Me too. That's why I always buy drives in pairs and mirror them (with backup scripts, don't like RAID1).
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Think my 3TB drive just went bust. Been running a chkdsk for 24 hours straight now and it's still running. Ugh, only had it 2 months. Might be needing a 4TB drive soon.
The chkdsk /f (only 3 stage, not even the full 5 stage) finally finished after 2 and a half days running. Lots of indexing and orphaned files found. Those wouldn't be a big deal though, but sadly it found 76KB in bad sectors. And I'm guessing it would probably found more if I actually did the full chkdsk. Drive is definitely going bad.
Frustrating thing is almost half the hard drives I buy from NewEgg arrive bad or go bad within a few weeks. I don't have such bad luck from Fry's or Tiger Direct. I don't think it's just bad luck anymore. *sigh*
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Ravynmagi posted:
Ravynmagi posted:
Think my 3TB drive just went bust. Been running a chkdsk for 24 hours straight now and it's still running. Ugh, only had it 2 months. Might be needing a 4TB drive soon.
The chkdsk /f (only 3 stage, not even the full 5 stage) finally finished after 2 and a half days running. Lots of indexing and orphaned files found. Those wouldn't be a big deal though, but sadly it found 76KB in bad sectors. And I'm guessing it would probably found more if I actually did the full chkdsk. Drive is definitely going bad.
Frustrating thing is almost half the hard drives I buy from NewEgg arrive bad or go bad within a few weeks. I don't have such bad luck from Fry's or Tiger Direct. I don't think it's just bad luck anymore. *sigh*
I can't thing of any logical reason why New Egg hard drives would be any more or less reliable than a drive from Fry's or Tiger Direct. Some people just seem to have bad "luck" with drives. I've always chocked it up to environmental issue or user habits.
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I can't thing of any logical reason why New Egg hard drives would be any more or less reliable than a drive from Fry's or Tiger Direct. Some people just seem to have bad "luck" with drives. I've always chocked it up to environmental issue or user habits.
It could be about how it's warehouse and shipping departments handle the drives. It's shipping departments on multiple occasions has shipped many people drives with barely (and sometimes no) package material in the box. Though I've had appropriately packed drives go bad from them often too, so the problem could be occurring before shipping as well.
I have no idea what's going on. But after about 20 hard drives from NewEgg I've counted 9 that have gone bad within 2 months (7 of those were DOA). That's far too high. I've bought dozens of drives from Fry's and probably half a dozen from Tiger Direct and I really can't remember any of those being DOA or dying within the first 2 months.
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I've bought 4 HD's from newegg. One of them has gone bad. My main HD, from newegg, is going on 6+ years and hasn't had any issues.
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WD is awesome. I just did an RMA and they are going to send me the replacement hard drive first right away and I have 30 days to mail them the defective drive. Woohoo. Seagate didn't give me this option.
So a replacement 3TB drive should be on it's way very soon.
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On the opposite side of the spectrum...I don't recall any drive I've used in the last 15 years failing under "normal" conditions...and I've used new egg almost exclusively for the last decade (minus a short grudge I had with them for using UPS) 
I actually blame UPS for almost all the issues I've had with defective equipment. Having known a number of people that work in the unloading facilities...it's amazing anything arrives intact.
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I would have to agree. I am scared to order OEM drives from Newegg. Retail drives comes in boxes that offer more protection, which is the only reason I ordered it from newegg. But I have been shipped an OEM drive packaged on the bottom of the box rather loosely (would rattle around the whole bottom of the box). Luckly that drive has not failed, but I have not ordered another OEM online since.
Other places I use to use look to of gone bust while back, which actually protected all the drives well. I wonder how amazon packages drives. At least there is a microcenter kinda nearby, so that is what I have done for my last 3 drives. Too bad they do not carry green/slow rpm 3tb drives yet.
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I personally don't buy drives with more then one platter, which as I understand it is the best way to get reliable drives.. Anyone else ever hear that?
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Less moving parts = less heat, less chance for something to go wrong. Generally that is true.
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and in a year you'll get it for 60 bucks with a 20 dollar rebate.
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and in a year you'll get it for 60 bucks with a 20 dollar rebate.
Might be closer to 2 years. But by then I'll probably be replacing it with a new 6 or 8TB drive anyway. :P
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Lonestar_1 posted:
Less moving parts = less heat, less chance for something to go wrong. Generally that is true.
I think this is half right. Both the platters and heads are stacked and bonded together (as independent units). So you aren't AFAIK changing the "moving part" count but you are definitely increasing the density of physical material packed into the HDD case and you're sandwiching heads between platters.
IE it is the amount of extra material in the HDD that is the problem for creating and not shedding off heat as well. In essence, I agree with the point about having a justified rational to purchase single platter drives. I personally as a end user will always take slower and/or more reliable over speed and early burnout.
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