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Server down?

 

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It is showing up for me as down.

I have been trying to work on decal and get it working all day but their website isn't responding.

Is anyone else having this problem?

Any help.

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I'm having the same problem. The web server appears to be down.

 

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Yep, was down last night, is still down now. Maybe Irene broke it.

 

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The machine is offline. Attempts to contact the provider have not yet yeilded a response.

More info when I have it. If it goes on too long I will move the site and put up the beta content...

 

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Thank you for looking into this.

I appreciate all you guys do!

Khaldrogo

 

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Yes TY very very much!


HOpe its not too much hassle!

 

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Hope its up soon. People need 2.9.6.5 to run my plugin! happy

 

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Provider's been out of town. He should be back tonight, so maybe back up tomorrow.

 

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A copy of the Decal Files (Current as of 7/12/2011) HERE

*Note* 2.9.6.5 is not linked (I have yet to download it)

 

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Do NOT mirror our files w/o consent.

Users download at your own risk.

Any official mirrors will be posted by one of the core devs.

 

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-paradoxlost- posted:
Do NOT mirror our files w/o consent.

Users download at your own risk.

Any official mirrors will be posted by one of the core devs.


It would be good to have one separate, always-on mirror of the decal installer along with the latest beta. Perhaps sourceforge or something like that? The decal dev webserver seems to be less than fully reliable. Surely there is some other free site/service that can reliably and securely mirror the files...

 

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Actually, this is the decal mirror that's down. The main site never came back up.

I've posted the installer here:
http://devel.paradoxlost.com/decal/2965/Decal.msi

I think Virindi will do something about the xmls shortly.

 

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My mirror is here:

http://www.virindi.net/decal/

 

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Thanks for the mirror links. Perhaps someone should post those links in a sticky at the top of the forum?

 

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Heh, this forum's stickies have been hopelessly out of date for a long time. Wish I could change them, I'd make them a lot more useful wink

 

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I wouldn't post them. Right now they are only temporary download locations, not actual mirrors. Since they will probably only be maintained as-needed, it is better to not mention them unless they are needed.

Like I said before, the real thing will probably be online again tomorrow. If that server has had a hardware failure, I will go ahead and complete the move to the new location w/o finishing the new site.

It's only been a few days so just wait it out. It's not like we have a huge influx of new people to the game...

 

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-paradoxlost- posted:
Do NOT mirror our files w/o consent.

Users download at your own risk.

Any official mirrors will be posted by one of the core devs.


raised_brow

Sorry to try and help someone out with the needed files when the official site is down. It WON'T happen again I assure you.

 

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Dark, they've had LONG standing policy of only approved mirrors, those (few) approved mirrors have ALWAYS been Decal Core Dev controlled. It's not personal, it's policy. Honestly I support this policy, while the potential for mischief is low, the damage caused if it WERE to happen could be IMMENSE....

 

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Maglett_of_FF posted:
Honestly I support this policy, while the potential for mischief is low, the damage caused if it WERE to happen could be IMMENSE....


I suppose you are correct and I do understand that point.

 

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I still cant get my Decal to update. Maybe Im just doing something wrong Idk.

I have been trying to get decal working for awhile now.

Any help?

Thanks
Khaldrogo

 

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-paradoxlost- posted:
I wouldn't post them. Right now they are only temporary download locations, not actual mirrors. Since they will probably only be maintained as-needed, it is better to not mention them unless they are needed.

Like I said before, the real thing will probably be online again tomorrow. If that server has had a hardware failure, I will go ahead and complete the move to the new location w/o finishing the new site.

It's only been a few days so just wait it out. It's not like we have a huge influx of new people to the game...


With respect, this is a fairly short-sighted attitude. There's no massive influx of new people, yet every time the Decal server goes down there's a post quite quickly on these forums.

I have the greatest of respect for you, VI, Haz, and everyone else who puts their time and effort into maintaining Decal. I would bet 50+% of people in AC would not be playing right now if it was not for you folks keeping Decal running, but not having a stable, safe, officially-sanctioned alternative download source is short-sighted in the extreme. It's not like there's a shortage of reliable, secure, and safe hosting services out there. I strongly urge you to consider uploading 2.9.6.0 and the latest beta to one of them.

 

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For the Decal Gurus I thank you for all you do!

I love AC and Decal makes it even better!

I'm a returning player and having lots of problems with decal atm.

I have now installed it but every time I go to update it says the host is unavailable.

Should I copy and paste my Error that I get here to see if its just me or if no one can DL anything atm?

Thanks for any help in advance.

Khaldrogo

 

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joeblow8579 posted:
not having a stable, safe, officially-sanctioned alternative download source is short-sighted in the extreme. It's not like there's a shortage of reliable, secure, and safe hosting services out there. I strongly urge you to consider uploading 2.9.6.0 and the latest beta to one of them.


http://www.virindi.net/decal/

All files there are from official sources.

 

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Hey Virindi,

I have downloaded Decal from that source and it still wont let me update anything and all of my boxes are red.

I hope I am not having a problem that is shown how to fix somewhere else.

Here is the error I am getting.

Start Download at: 06:56:11
Error Occured: System.Net.WebException: Unable to connect to the remote server ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond 66.197.193.71:80
at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.DoConnect(EndPoint endPointSnapshot, SocketAddress socketAddress)
at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.InternalConnect(EndPoint remoteEP)
at System.Net.ServicePoint.ConnectSocketInternal(Boolean connectFailure, Socket s4, Socket s6, Socket& socket, IPAddress& address, ConnectSocketState state, IAsyncResult asyncResult, Int32 timeout, Exception& exception)
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at System.Net.WebClient.OpenRead(Uri address)
at System.Net.WebClient.OpenRead(String address)
at DecalUtil.Update.FetchUpdateList(IFormStatus status)
Failed to download updatelist.xml

 

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Just coming back after a little break, getting spanked by decal.....tag

 

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You have to download the XML files to your Decal install directory.

 

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Heh, this forum's stickies have been hopelessly out of date for a long time. Wish I could change them, I'd make them a lot more useful wink



send me a pm on what needs changing

 

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EEEK a mod, in these parts! RUNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

 

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I'm getting this error, only when I try to run AC with decal, no problem logging into AC without it.

acclient.exe - unable to locate component

This application has failed to start because d3dx9_36.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem.

Also, I re-installed decal thinking I was the problem initially with the update site being down, I re-installed, moved the files VI posted from the link, now the only red "x" I have in the decal is under surrogates for Version 1 plug-in Surrgoate.

Thoughts>??

 

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I am not really that good at installing anything lol.

I am kinda lost. Virindi if you could please send me a PM on what to do I would appreciate it.

Khaldrogo

 

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Millencolin838 posted:
I'm getting this error, only when I try to run AC with decal, no problem logging into AC without it.

acclient.exe - unable to locate component

This application has failed to start because d3dx9_36.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem.

Also, I re-installed decal thinking I was the problem initially with the update site being down, I re-installed, moved the files VI posted from the link, now the only red "x" I have in the decal is under surrogates for Version 1 plug-in Surrgoate.

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Sounds like you need to install the DX files required for Decal. When installing Virindis plugin, there is a button labeled "check libs". Click this and it will check to see if you are missing any files and direct you to the ones you may be missing.

Also, the surrogate keeps the red X.


khaldrogo2 posted:
I am not really that good at installing anything lol.

I am kinda lost. Virindi if you could please send me a PM on what to do I would appreciate it.

Khaldrogo


Install Decal, then save each of the .xml files listed in the link Virindi posted to the decal ldirectory.

 

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I have downloaded the latest files 2.9.6.5 they won't update. I have tried the multitude of mirror and helpfull sites. Decal refuses to upload. I see the updat files DO I HAVE TO MANUALLY INSTALL? How do i do this? save files as doesn't work. i give up!

 

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I have downloaded the latest files 2.9.6.5 they won't update. I have tried the multitude of mirror and helpfull sites. Decal refuses to upload. I see the updat files DO I HAVE TO MANUALLY INSTALL? How do i do this? save files as doesn't work. i give up!


You actually have to dl the files to the decal install folder. Or dl them anywhere then move them into the decal folder. Right click the file link, click "save file as...", then make sure you have the decal3.0 directory selected, then click save. Don't rename them or do anything else.

 

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Ive done all that, decal looks like its good to go but it still just crshes and corrupts my client......any news on when the server will be back up?

 

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What version of decal are you using?

 

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2.9.6.5

 

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Go back to the older version and see what happens.

Thinking there are still some bugs with .5

 

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My decal is still saying that the server isnt responding too.

I dont know what im doing wrong but obviously something lol

Khaldrogo

 

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You either need to point decal at VI's mirror or DL and install the XML from VI's site into the decal directory manually, the automatic ways are FUBAR atm due to the server issues. I'm not even sure if VI's mirror is setup to have decal pull the XML directly, the only way may be the DL and manual install.

 

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Everything seems to be working fine with 2.9.6.0.....d/l the xmls and dump them into the decal folder.

 

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Anyone know when the offical site will be back up ?

 

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Followed the instructions here:

http://vnboards.ign.com/ac_utilities/b5432/113031404/p1

Then got decal and the xml's from virindi's site.

Decal turns on and got the black check marks. Looks good.

Log on to AC but decal just isn't there.

Couldn't remember if decal was supposed to be inside the AC folder or not so I tried putting decal inside and when I did that, AC won't load and I get an error message.

Tried moving it back out (now there are two folders in "games": "Decal 3.0" and "Turbine") and I can log in again but no decal again.

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Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.5

type, enabled, name, version, clsid
Plugins, 1, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.5, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.5, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.5, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.5, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.5, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.5, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.5, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.5, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.5, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.5, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.5, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.5, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.5, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.5, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.5, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.5, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.5, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.5, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.5, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.5, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.5, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.5, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.5, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.5, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)

[Protected Storage Service] : Manual

Decal Settings
[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\Games\Turbine\Asheron's Call
[Launcher App] : acclient.exe
[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 26272 bytes, Version 0.0.11.4056
[messages.xml] : 54652 bytes, Version 2011.02.25.0
[Video Memory] : -1679822848

D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)
[d3dx9_31.dll] : Installed (9.15.779.0)
[d3dx9_32.dll] : Installed (9.16.843.0)
[d3dx9_33.dll] : Installed (9.18.904.15)
[d3dx9_34.dll] : Installed (9.19.949.46)
[d3dx9_35.dll] : Installed (9.19.949.1104)
[d3dx9_36.dll] : Installed (9.19.949.2111)
[d3dx9_37.dll] : Installed (9.22.949.2248)
[d3dx9_38.dll] : Installed (9.23.949.2378)
[d3dx9_39.dll] : Installed (9.24.949.2307)
[d3dx9_40.dll] : Installed (9.24.950.2656)
[d3dx9_41.dll] : Installed (9.26.952.2844)
[d3dx9_42.dll] : Installed (9.27.952.3001)
[d3dx9_43.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_44.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_45.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_46.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_47.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_48.dll] : Not Installed
[d3dx9_49.dll] : Not Installed


---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 2)
[v3.0] (3.0) : Installed (Service Pack 2)
[v3.5] (3.5) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v4] (4.0) : Installed (Version: 4.0.30319)

C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.98.15)
[atl70.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed
[atl71.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc71.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr71.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcp71.dll] : Not Installed

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.110.7601.17514)
[msxml4.dll] : Not Installed
[msxml5.dll] : Not Installed
[msxml6.dll] : Installed (6.30.7601.17514)


---Video Device Information---
[Device] : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E22&SUBSYS_13603842&REV_A1
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{673E4313-37D3-409F-B156-F5855A0FACD6}\0000
[Manufacturer] : NVIDIA
[ChipType] : GeForce GTX 460
[DACType] : Integrated RAMDAC
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 2493 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 2493 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1920
[DisplayHeight] : 1080
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 60
[MonitorName] : Generic PnP Monitor
[MonitorMaxRes] :
[DriverName] : nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
[DriverVersion] : 8.17.0012.7533
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 5/24/2011 23:09:12
[DriverDateLocal] : 5/24/2011 11:09:12 PM
[DriverSize] : 15223912
[MiniVdd] : n/a
[MiniVddDateEng] : n/a
[MiniVddDateLocal] : n/a
[MiniVddSize] : 0
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
[Beta] : No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
[Identifier] : {D7B71E3E-4D62-11CF-9F46-6C331FC2C535}
[DDIVer] : 11
[DDIVerEng] : 11
[DDIVerLocal] : 11
[iAdapter] : 0
[VendorID] : 0x10DE
[DeviceID] : 0x0E22
[SubSystemID] : 0x13603842
[RevisionID] : 0x00A1
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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Followed the instructions here:

http://vnboards.ign.com/ac_utilities/b5432/113031404/p1

Then got decal and the xml's from virindi's site.

Decal turns on and got the black check marks. Looks good.

Log on to AC but decal just isn't there.

Couldn't remember if decal was supposed to be inside the AC folder or not so I tried putting decal inside and when I did that, AC won't load and I get an error message.

Tried moving it back out (now there are two folders in "games": "Decal 3.0" and "Turbine") and I can log in again but no decal again.

Windows 7 64 bit.



I had exactly the same problem: http://vnboards.ign.com/ac_utilities/b5432/115464279/p1/?4

Have you tried running AC (and Decal) as Admin? I was always running Decal as Admin, but when I tried running AC as Admin it worked like a charm.

 

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Subject: Decal Not Updating?
Omniscient posted:
-Pneumo- posted:
Followed the instructions here:

http://vnboards.ign.com/ac_utilities/b5432/113031404/p1

Then got decal and the xml's from virindi's site.

Decal turns on and got the black check marks. Looks good.

Log on to AC but decal just isn't there.

Couldn't remember if decal was supposed to be inside the AC folder or not so I tried putting decal inside and when I did that, AC won't load and I get an error message.

Tried moving it back out (now there are two folders in "games": "Decal 3.0" and "Turbine") and I can log in again but no decal again.

Windows 7 64 bit.



I had exactly the same problem: http://vnboards.ign.com/ac_utilities/b5432/115464279/p1/?4

Have you tried running AC (and Decal) as Admin? I was always running Decal as Admin, but when I tried running AC as Admin it worked like a charm.


I run both as an admin and it doesnt work. I can get ingame with 2960 but theres no decal bar.
When I tried 2965 it wouldnt even let me to the character screen, at the initial loading screen for AC it errors out says ac client has stopped responding..

 

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I'm trying to get decal set up on my laptop and I hit:

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DenAgent
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Your AC Client is out of date. If you are using dual log, make sure all directories contain a current version, or get latest version from Turbine. (client version=0.0.11.4040 xml version=0.0.11.4056)
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OK
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Any ideas? And yes I've made sure that my AC client version is correct. I think I've updated the memlocs.xml to match the one on Virindi's mirror.

 

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Gafoon, you need to manually update the decal files from Virindis mirror.

Midnight....redownload the decal files from Virindis mirror, making sure you get all of them listed.

I had the same problem you had. I uninstalled and reinstalled 2.9.6.0, dl'd the updated files, and then ended up having to do them a second time. After the second time everything worked fine.

 

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Update WORKS

you don't have to download anything manually. Press the update button.



Well, that was true until this latest patch. memlocs have not been updated.

 

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