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Subject: Would like to use Decal, but...
I read on Turbine's forum that this is the place for Decal support, so here I am.

I started up Asheron's Call again after a few years off. I can play the game without Decal fine. When I start Decal, then AC, after I click "next" at server select, and before the blue bulbs the screen is blank, with just the AC cursor.

I have uninstalled both AC and Decal, then reinstalled in C:\Asheron's Call and C:\Decal
According to Microsoft/Nvidia, everything is up to date.
Using Windows XP Pro
Nvidia Geforce 460 SE


I'd sure love to use GoArrow etc again, so any assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

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Post a decal export.

 

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I was killing time earlier and installed the virindi bundle to look it over, otherwise nothing has changed.


Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.0

type, enabled, name, version, clsid
Plugins, 0, Virindi Chat System 5, <No Version>, {0A7B25AC-79A9-4F6A-9751-419B87A7BB05}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Tank, <No Version>, {642F1F48-16BE-48BF-B1D4-286652C4533E}
Plugins, 1, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.0, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Integrator2 Beta, <No Version>, {7882AE88-CB68-4C98-BB94-90204C2D2156}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Item Tool, <No Version>, {7BCA75A3-CC65-456B-BBB1-6383FB072B60}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Reporter, <No Version>, {8C70FF56-0E53-4265-9E19-C4534A8D3AA8}
Plugins, 0, Virindi HUDs, <No Version>, {C6B1DF06-FF20-459E-8302-AA346CBFDA01}
Plugins, 0, Virindi Hotkey System, <No Version>, {ED7CC818-7159-461F-A833-4CA49E1C85B6}
Network Filters, 0, Virindi AutomaticUpdatesFilter, <No Version>, {108ED493-48AD-42A6-AADC-EF773E4F185A}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.0, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.0, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.0, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.0, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.0, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.0, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.0, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.0, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.0, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.0, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.1, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Virindi View Service Bootstrapper, <No Version>, {DBAC9286-B38D-4570-961F-D4D9349AE3D4}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.0, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)

[Protected Storage Service] : Automatic

Decal Settings
[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\Turbine\Asheron's Call
[Launcher App] : acclient.exe
[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 26272 bytes, Version 0.0.11.4050
[messages.xml] : 54818 bytes, Version 2011.02.25.0
[Video Memory] : 1064091392

D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)


---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 2)

C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.98.2)
[atl70.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed
[atl71.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc71.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)
[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.100.1052.0)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.30.2100.0)


---Video Device Information---
[Device] : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E23&SUBSYS_13673842&REV_A1
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{484E0209-B90D-4ADA-9AAB-DB0BEFD31DB1}\0000
[Manufacturer] : NVIDIA
[ChipType] : GeForce GTX 460 SE
[DACType] : Integrated RAMDAC
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 1024.0 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 1024.0 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1024
[DisplayHeight] : 768
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 85
[MonitorName] : Plug and Play Monitor
[MonitorMaxRes] : 1600,1200
[DriverName] : nv4_disp.dll
[DriverVersion] : 6.14.0012.7533
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 5/24/2011 23:09:20
[DriverDateLocal] : 5/24/2011 23:09:20
[DriverSize] : 4198272
[MiniVdd] : nv4_mini.sys
[MiniVddDateEng] : 5/24/2011 23:09:20
[MiniVddDateLocal] : 5/24/2011 23:09:20
[MiniVddSize] : 12753664
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
[Beta] : No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
[Identifier] : {D7B71E3E-4D63-11CF-9F46-6B3300C2CB35}
[DDIVer] : 9
[DDIVerEng] : 9 (or higher)
[DDIVerLocal] : 9 (or higher)
[iAdapter] : 0
[VendorID] : 0x10DE
[DeviceID] : 0x0E23
[SubSystemID] : 0x13673842
[RevisionID] : 0x00A1
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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Subject: Would like to use Decal, but...
The virindi bundle didn't install properly. Look on virindi's website wiki on how to uninstall it. After you uninstall the Vtank bundle see if decal works. Make sure decal is working before reinstalling vtank again.

 

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Subject: Would like to use Decal, but...
Ok, I will do that now, but please note, this problem was happening before Virindi installation. Going to uninstall it now.

 

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Subject: Would like to use Decal, but...
It looks like you are missing some of the updates from Microsoft. Manually run windows by opening IE and going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com - You want to let the update run and go back to that site after the reboot until it says there are no more updates available. You may have to run the update two or three times before it gets everything installed and updated.

 

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Subject: Would like to use Decal, but...
One new update since I posted earlier... I swear that was not there before

XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 3 is being installed as I type this.

 

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There should be at least one more after it reboots. It looks like .Net 2.0 is not fully updated.

 

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Subject: Would like to use Decal, but...
Ok..rebooted and updated again. I got two security updates. Installed and rebooted again. Windows update only shows Win Media Player 11 and Smart Card Cryptographic Service Provider Package left. I did not install these two.

I still have the same issue with Decal and AC. Here is another Decal export if you want it:

Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.0

type, enabled, name, version, clsid
Plugins, 1, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.0, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.0, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.0, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.0, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.0, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.0, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.0, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.0, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.0, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.0, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.0, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.1, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.0, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)

[Protected Storage Service] : Automatic

Decal Settings
[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\Turbine\Asheron's Call
[Launcher App] : acclient.exe
[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 26272 bytes, Version 0.0.11.4050
[messages.xml] : 54818 bytes, Version 2011.02.25.0
[Video Memory] : 1064091392

D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)


---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 2)

C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.98.2)
[atl70.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed
[atl71.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc71.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)
[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.100.1052.0)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.30.2107.0)


---Video Device Information---
[Device] : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E23&SUBSYS_13673842&REV_A1
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{484E0209-B90D-4ADA-9AAB-DB0BEFD31DB1}\0000
[Manufacturer] : NVIDIA
[ChipType] : GeForce GTX 460 SE
[DACType] : Integrated RAMDAC
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 1024.0 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 1024.0 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1024
[DisplayHeight] : 768
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 85
[MonitorName] : Plug and Play Monitor
[MonitorMaxRes] : 1600,1200
[DriverName] : nv4_disp.dll
[DriverVersion] : 6.14.0012.7533
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 5/24/2011 23:09:20
[DriverDateLocal] : 5/24/2011 23:09:20
[DriverSize] : 4198272
[MiniVdd] : nv4_mini.sys
[MiniVddDateEng] : 5/24/2011 23:09:20
[MiniVddDateLocal] : 5/24/2011 23:09:20
[MiniVddSize] : 12753664
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
[Beta] : No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
[Identifier] : {D7B71E3E-4D63-11CF-9F46-6B3300C2CB35}
[DDIVer] : 9
[DDIVerEng] : 9 (or higher)
[DDIVerLocal] : 9 (or higher)
[iAdapter] : 0
[VendorID] : 0x10DE
[DeviceID] : 0x0E23
[SubSystemID] : 0x13673842
[RevisionID] : 0x00A1
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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Subject: Would like to use Decal, but...
The problem you described in your beginning post sounds like either a video card or directX problem, but you seem to have both of those installed and updated. Do you still get stopped at the same spot with a blank screen before the blue vials?

 

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Yeah I still have that issue. Perhaps I should go to Nvidia control panel and turn everything down/off in video settings and see what happens?

It's like the screen is the background color of character selection screen, with a cursor about 3 times normal size.

 

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Subject: Would like to use Decal, but...
The only thing that could really affect it is the resolution. I really don't think that is the problem, but it doesn't hurt to try lowering that. You could try lowering the resolution in AC also. Turn off decal and load AC, then go into the AC panel and set it to something like 1024x768. Don't go any lower than that. The 800x600 setting messes up sometimes.

 

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I dropped both desktop and AC resolution a bit, (still on a CRT monitor), but the issue persists.

I have both game and desktop set at the resolution you specified.

 

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It could be that the video card is not working good with that monitor. Try changing the refresh rate. 60Mhz or 75 should work fine. Whatever it is set on now change it to one of the other refresh rates. The monitor may not be able to handle higher refresh rates all that well.

EDIT: Change it in the display properties in windows. You shouldn't have to change anything in AC.

 

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Dropping down to 70 seems to have done the trick. I'm sure I would have never thought to try that myself. I am now in AC looking at my lifestone.

I sincerely appreciate all the time you spent on this with me. Thank you very much.

 

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No problem at all. Glad you got it working!

 

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