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Maiens 
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so was wondering if anyone would be interested in tradeing ywain plat/items for dreads ?

if so pm and we can figure out a fair exchange rate

 

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PM me.

 

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1200g pr seal in an exchane is not what iam looking for, considering plat is worth mroe on ywain then it is here, but thanks for the offer.

and still looking

 

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You have to remember ML10/items are more available on Ywain than Gaheris. ML10 is done once every couple of weeks, usually only 2 kills verse farmed for 10 hours a day on Ywain. Ywain has a higher population than Gaheris, making plat more common and worth less than a server where the population is very low.

If you can't find anyone, my offer is still available.

 

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there might be more ml10 items but they arent cheap bcuz of that, considering its a rvr zone and alot of time raids get wiped.
and plat is worth more on ywain then it is on gaheris, this is a co-op server after all sure now there less ppl then on ywain but i bet ya theres more plat on gaheris then ywain as everyone here is pveing and not rvring so alot more time have been spent farming mobs.

but thanks for the offer and even if i dont find anyone else i would never take that offer i can sell my plat for alot more on ywain then the plat here, so in terms of that its worth alot more, you will be lucky if you find someone to buy your plat where i could sell it in hours, not alot of ppl wanna move here, and items/plat isent worth anything if nobody wants it.

but again thanks for the offer

 

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there might be more ml10 items but they arent cheap bcuz of that, considering its a rvr zone and alot of time raids get wiped.
and plat is worth more on ywain then it is on gaheris, this is a co-op server after all sure now there less ppl then on ywain but i bet ya theres more plat on gaheris then ywain as everyone here is pveing and not rvring so alot more time have been spent farming mobs.

but thanks for the offer and even if i dont find anyone else i would never take that offer i can sell my plat for alot more on ywain then the plat here, so in terms of that its worth alot more, you will be lucky if you find someone to buy your plat where i could sell it in hours, not alot of ppl wanna move here, and items/plat isent worth anything if nobody wants it.

but again thanks for the offer


Your Ywain plat is completely worthless to most of us here so 1200/seal is actually pretty fair.

"this is a co-op server after all sure now there less ppl then on ywain but i bet ya theres more plat on gaheris then ywain as everyone here is pveing and not rvring so alot more time have been spent farming mobs." - I don't think I've read a more wrong statement about our server than this in quite some time.

 

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Also you really should've continued your gripe with Mentalburn through your pm conversation instead of attempting to make him look like he was trying to rip you off or something for everyone to see. I would've offered to help you out getting settled in (actually came to the vn boards specifically to see if you made a deal or still needed help) and invited you along on some keep takes to get you going.

I still think 1200/seal is a fair trade.

 

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The offer I made was 120dreads(gaheris) for 100p(ywain), he's wanting to do 500dreads for 100p. It's just not worth the time involved farming dreads. (my time is a little more valuable)



EDIT: At max I would be willing to offer 200dreads/100p which is = to about 2000/dread.

 

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Wow. Well, we obviously have nothing better to do than farm dreads for those Ywain folk' under sweatshop conditions.

 

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The offer I made was 120dreads(gaheris) for 100p(ywain), he's wanting to do 500dreads for 100p.

It's just not worth the time involved farming dreads. (my time is a little more valuable)


i never said that i said i saw someone a while back doing a plat transfere at 5to1,to point out if he could get 5to1 1200 a seal is to much

and iam not trying to make him look bad, just stating what the current offer was and that it wasent what i was looking for.

and sure my ywain plat might not be worth alot to most of you playing here but some are playing both or ppl that move from gaheris to ywain might wnt to get a deal insted of haveing it just sitting here doing nothing.

 

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Wow. Well, we obviously have nothing better to do than farm dreads for those Ywain folk' under sweatshop conditions.


"thoes ywain folks" are the ones that can get a better pop here then what it is now

 

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i never said that i said i saw someone a while back doing a plat transfere at 5to1,to point out if he could get 5to1 1200 a seal is to much

and iam not trying to make him look bad, just stating what the current offer was and that it wasent what i was looking for.

and sure my ywain plat might not be worth alot to most of you playing here but some are playing both or ppl that move from gaheris to ywain might wnt to get a deal insted of haveing it just sitting here doing nothing.


So why should I not be entitled to the same treatment in return?
What makes the "ywain" player, better than the "gaheris" player?
It's all based on the time/effort that someone puts into doing something.


EDIT: You feel that my time isn't vauvled as much as yours because I prefer,
to play on Gaheris vs Ywain. Just a side note, I absoultely need nothing on
Ywain. I'm overflowing on there already, was just here to offer help.

 

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i never said that i said i saw someone a while back doing a plat transfere at 5to1,to point out if he could get 5to1 1200 a seal is to much

and iam not trying to make him look bad, just stating what the current offer was and that it wasent what i was looking for.

and sure my ywain plat might not be worth alot to most of you playing here but some are playing both or ppl that move from gaheris to ywain might wnt to get a deal insted of haveing it just sitting here doing nothing.


So why should I not be entitled to the same treatment in return?
What makes the "ywain" player, better than the "gaheris" player?


has nothing to do with whos better, there more ppl on ywain and therefor a bigger demand on plat items whatever, makeing it worth more, as its alot hard to farm the same items compared to say gaheris, and yes even ml10 is harder, if gaheris had the same amout of ppl you would have had no problems farming it 24/7, you cant do that on ywain as your raid at some point will get rolled by other realms

 

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Maiens posted:
Mentalburn posted:
Maiens posted:
i never said that i said i saw someone a while back doing a plat transfere at 5to1,to point out if he could get 5to1 1200 a seal is to much

and iam not trying to make him look bad, just stating what the current offer was and that it wasent what i was looking for.

and sure my ywain plat might not be worth alot to most of you playing here but some are playing both or ppl that move from gaheris to ywain might wnt to get a deal insted of haveing it just sitting here doing nothing.


So why should I not be entitled to the same treatment in return?
What makes the "ywain" player, better than the "gaheris" player?


has nothing to do with whos better, there more ppl on ywain and therefor a bigger demand on plat items whatever, makeing it worth more, as its alot hard to farm the same items compared to say gaheris, and yes even ml10 is harder, if gaheris had the same amout of ppl you would have had no problems farming it 24/7, you cant do that on ywain as your raid at some point will get rolled by other realms




Everything here is worthless with the exception to dreaded seals, hence the 1200/seal for your ywain currency. Coming at him with a 500gold/seal ratio is pretty much telling him his time spent farming these seals isn't anywhere near as valuable as your time it takes to get a few hundred gold.

And then calling him out on vns about his price (like it or not that is indeed what you were doing) just because you didn't think it was a fair deal is a pretty douche bag move.

 

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so what your saying is that iam not allowed to say what he offered so that others have a chance at seeing what i thought was to much?
i did not know that, and after i simply replyed to what he said but i dont see you yelling at him for the same?
i really dont know why you are so upset about it? is he thought i was trying to make him look bad he should have said so, as i wasent simply a statement to what i thought was to much.

and again i never said i that i wanted to do 1/5 or 500g a seal thats something your makeing up now, all i said was that 1200 was to much and stated out that i saw a guy doing a plat transfere at 1to5 but all of a sudden you make it out to that it was something i demanded or said was a fair exchange.


clearly your offended by this and clearly i dont know why, how about we just drop it and we both move along?

 

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I think I got mixed up somewhere and my math was a bit off.

I would offer (at max) 200dreads for 100p, which would be 500g/dread. That would be a fair trade. Sorry I was looking at it from a different point of view and the math got mixed up. 5to1 would have been 200g/dread, which is too low.



EDIT: It was a simple miscommunication on my part, sorry for the confusion.

 

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When dreads sell for UPWARDS of 1.2 pl / dread, I believe the offer that has been made (with math corrections made as well) is one heck of an offer. happy

Edit: Mentalburn has a goal to reach and I KNOW he really doesn't WANT to part with any dreads because of said goal, but, I've seen him do it on a number of occasions as of late.
Miscommunication happens, we're all human!

GL you two, hopefully this is now worked out happy

 

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Gringor said:
I would've offered to help you out getting settled in (actually came to the vn boards specifically to see if you made a deal or still needed help) and invited you along on some keep takes to get you going.

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^ That is no doubt true.

In fact, many folks on Gaheris are more than happy to help out those new to Gaheris or returning.
Many people freely give items, go out of their way to help level and happily take said folks along to do keeps.

Not so much on Ywain...

 

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Jasurra posted:


Gringor said:
I would've offered to help you out getting settled in (actually came to the vn boards specifically to see if you made a deal or still needed help) and invited you along on some keep takes to get you going.

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^ That is no doubt true.

In fact, many folks on Gaheris are more than happy to help out those new to Gaheris or returning.
Many people freely give items, go out of their way to help level and happily take said folks along to do keeps.

Not so much on Ywain...


She knows 1st hand happy trust me happy

 

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Heh, no doubt. Try to help out people as much as possible.

Math isn't my friend lol, Uber usually does all the math/loot for me grin

 

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LOL yes, I do happy

R O F L!!

 

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If you buy me 2 cases of beer and take my wife out for dinner I will give you all the seals I get that evening farming. (and I farm gud)

 

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Ruarch_Rockhammer posted:
If you buy me 2 cases of beer and take my wife out for dinner I will give you all the seals I get that evening farming. (and I farm gud)


I concur

 

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Maiens posted:
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Wow. Well, we obviously have nothing better to do than farm dreads for those Ywain folk' under sweatshop conditions.


"thoes ywain folks" are the ones that can get a better pop here then what it is now


Our "pop" here at this time is actually just fine. thanks though.

 

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so what your saying is that iam not allowed to say what he offered so that others have a chance at seeing what i thought was to much?



Actually, posting PM's on the ven boards actually is against the ToS. They have beenlax though so this may have changed.

 

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