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Subject: 60% price increase at Netflix if you use DVD and streaming
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20078765-17/netflix-hikes-prices-adds-dvd-only-plan/

For just $10 a month you used to be able to combine Netflix streaming access along with a basic DVD plan together. But for whatever reason Netflix has gotten rid of that combo deal and now makes people that wants both streaming and DVDs, to pay for separate $8 packages. So what used to cost $10 a month now costs $16 a month.

 

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Subject: 60% price increase at Netflix if you use DVD and streaming
That's the plan I'm on. But I don't use the DVD service enough to want to continue it if I'm going to have to pay more. Once that pricing plan is in place for existing customers, I'll probably go to streaming only.

 

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Subject: 60% price increase at Netflix if you use DVD and streaming
I only use streaming now. Been trying the Blockbuster thing for Blurays, since I can get new releases.

There are talks that Netflix's contracts are mostly expiring between now and late 2012, and the content owners want to renegotiate big time. I read one analyst saying along the order of ten times the amount now (which I think is a high estimate, seeing as Netflix doesn't really have that much competition yet). Sony already pulled a lot of their content while their contract is renegotiated.

In any event look for either a flat increase on their streaming-only service, probably a few dollars, and Netflix branching out to make money in other ways.

 

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Greedy pieces of crap, every single one of them.

 

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Subject: 60% price increase at Netflix if you use DVD and streaming
Well Netflix previously announced they were only paying about $110 million in license fees, and earning a revenue off it many, many times that. So I can understand the wish to negotiate better contracts. But tens times the amount? That's a way to quickly kill a newish medium with momentum. I could big names like Mirimax wanting around ten million. Sony maybe a bit more. But if these analysts are correct, they're wanting to start negotiations at closer to a hundred million, which is just silly.

Edit: pretty sure it was Pacther, or however you spell his name, the same guy that does video game industry trends, that cited the possible growth from a hundred million to slightly over one billion in all. He's always wrong though, so I'm guessing Netflix will end up having to shell out close to five hundred million. An increase of about five fold. They could eat that as is, but I still expect them raise prices on streaming to at least $11.99 in the near future,

 

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This makes me very unhappy. I started out paying under $10. I'm currently at $21.29 (after tax). I've never had a bad thing to say about the service. But passing $20 a month make me uncomfortable. Another price increase will definitely send me looking for other options. I agree that the company appears to be getting greedy. I have always believed that netflix was successful because they kept the MONTHLY fees at a minimal level.

When budgets get tight...people quickly cut unnecessary and reoccurring expenses. I believe it would be much wiser to keep the cost the same or less...even if they had to sacrifice some selection.

 

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This is a crock. I heard Red Box is going to start to have Blue Rays so I will use that for when I want the full Blue Ray experience and just use the streaming on Netflix.

Greedy SOBs, I will have to double check when I'm up for renewal, I am sure it will be "autobilled" the new $16.

 

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and i got the notice today...

For me, they essentially raised the price from 19.99 to 23.98...or $48 more a year. Hardly a 60% increase...but it's significant. 60% would be an instant deal breaker.

edit: and more...

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Dear ____,

We are separating unlimited DVDs by mail and unlimited streaming into two separate plans to better reflect the costs of each. Now our members have a choice: a streaming only plan, a DVD only plan, or both.

Your current $19.99 a month membership for unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs will be split into 2 distinct plans:

Plan 1: Unlimited Streaming (no DVDs) for $7.99 a month
Plan 2: Unlimited DVDs, 3 out at-a-time (no streaming) for $15.99 a month

Your price for getting both of these plans will be $23.98 a month ($7.99 + $15.99). You don't need to do anything to continue your memberships for both unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs.

These prices will start for charges on or after September 1, 2011.

You can easily change or cancel your unlimited streaming plan, unlimited DVD plan, or both, by going to the Plan Change page in Your Account.

We realize you have many choices for home entertainment, and we thank you for your business. As always, if you have questions, please feel free to call us at 1-888-357-1516."

 

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I will drop the streaming only and pick it up couple months in the year to catch up on some shows when they are released to streaming. No point in always keeping the plan active as I am not using it that much.

 

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i'm toying with the idea of dropping the dvd portion and using red box. the streaming is a convenience for me that can't be replaced by another service. i despise driving anywhere for dvd returns...but redbox would be cheaper overall for me. unfortunately...i'd lose a crapton of selection :/

i'll probably just roll back to unlimited streaming and one dvd at a time (which is probably what they are calculating will happen)

 

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7.99 + 9.99 for 1 bluray/dvd and streaming a month = $17.98. My 2 cents... No its not they are trying to drive people down to lower dvd rentals plans, they are trying to drop it completely as it is so much cheaper to do steaming only.

 

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Subject: 60% price increase at Netflix if you use DVD and streaming
Lonestar_1 posted:
7.99 + 9.99 for 1 bluray/dvd and streaming a month = $17.98. My 2 cents... No its not they are trying to drive people down to lower dvd rentals plans, they are trying to drop it completely as it is so much cheaper to do steaming only.


Yeah, there have been a number of postage rate increases by the USPS, including a recent one in April that mostly affected only commercial shippers.

 

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Subject: 60% price increase at Netflix if you use DVD and streaming
I'm not too happy, and the web backlash is almost palpable. With Blockbuster back to 99c movies and Redbox being what it is, I won't be paying for Netflix's DVD nonsense but I will still use their streaming service.

 

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Subject: 60% price increase at Netflix if you use DVD and streaming
Ravynmagi posted:
Lonestar_1 posted:
7.99 + 9.99 for 1 bluray/dvd and streaming a month = $17.98. My 2 cents... No its not they are trying to drive people down to lower dvd rentals plans, they are trying to drop it completely as it is so much cheaper to do steaming only.


Yeah, there have been a number of postage rate increases by the USPS, including a recent one in April that mostly affected only commercial shippers.


Therein lies the real culprit. The USPS, like just about any other Govt run quasi-business, is a steaming pile of poo. Netflix is one of the scarce few new enterprises in the last 10 years that sent increased business to the USPS. But the difference between Netflix and say junk mail is that people actually care if they got their Netflix DVD in the mail so the USPS actually had to do their job.

 

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I'm still happy, but I will always dislike price hikes.

 

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The problem I see with it is that their streaming selection isn't all that great.

For example, I went to watch Spartacus last night so I went to my instant queue and selected the first episode. As far back as I can remember it has always been available to stream, up until last night. I discovered last night they made the first 5 episodes disc only. This only leads me to believe that they're trying to force people to have into having both plans (disc + streaming).

I'll be canceling my service with them in August. There's too many free places to stream movies on the net. And when I want blu-ray, i'll do like others have said...red-box or blockbuster.

 

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If anything was ever going to save Blockbuster's ass, this is it.

 

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I just sent back my last dvd from them. Once they confirm it's received I'll cancel my sub. Too many red boxes within 5 miles of me not to switch.

 

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you got to know that somewhere in some conference room when this was press released there were a bunch of blockbuster execs having a party

 

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Rezzinu posted:

I'll be canceling my service with them in August. There's too many free places to stream movies on the net. And when I want blu-ray, i'll do like others have said...red-box or blockbuster.

By free do you mean legal?

 

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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:
Rezzinu posted:

I'll be canceling my service with them in August. There's too many free places to stream movies on the net. And when I want blu-ray, i'll do like others have said...red-box or blockbuster.

By free do you mean legal?


In the current state of the law there is nothing illegal about streaming something, even if downloading it were illegal. Of course they are trying to pass a bill making it illegal, but right now you can stream anything you want and no charges can be brought against you. The site that is hosting the stream is a different story.

 

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More than anything this has me questioning the long term, wide market viability of physical mediums - along with cable television. It has literally gotten to the point where you can purchase a HD movie (1080p) on the cloud, kept there forever, for less than it costs for a disc. And stream it up instantly, even with a mediocre Internet connection, to your computer or tablet or phone or TV. In the coming years it will be ubiquitous. It's already damned close. DVR and Hulu rates are approaching zero day viewership for the most popular TV shows.

I figure by 2015 theaters will all follow the alcohol selling boutique model (Google "Cinema Cafe" if your area doesn't already have these types of cinemas), and movies will only have theatrical runs of a month or less. Shortly thereafter they will hit the stream for a premium for a few weeks, then go full fledged streaming.

The only hold outs are cell carriers, who want to pretend like 2.5GB plans rather than unlimited is something reasonable. When it costs them nothing more to provide unlimited data. And I guess this goes for European ISPs that also limit their customers knowing full well it's a straight money grab. Once they get steam rolled by competition willing to embrace the future we will all benefit.

 

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NetFlix is going to drop their DVD by mail program.  But had they just dropped it and said they were charging you about the same, everyone would have jumped ship.

Get ready, cause they announced earlier this year they were going to discontinue this server.

As for Movies on the Cloud...I can never understand people.  They do a bundle of their Cable / Phone / Internet.....JoeSmoe digs in his yard and the cable gets cut, all those people are without those services.

So, people start doing Clouds.  I know my internet goes down on occassion, same with the business I work with.  But if their OS, their DATA are on the CLOUD, they are absolutely F'D when the internet is disrupted.

Then you have all these services wanting to limit the GB access, thats going to play well when you have all that stuff in the CLOUDS cause thats where your profits are going to be going, into the clouds.

 

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...JoeSmoe digs in his yard and the cable gets cut, all those people are without those services.


my story has nothing to do with the thread's topic, but this quote made me chuckle a bit. last summer someone down the block was removing their in-ground pool in their back yard. the company they hired to do this brought in a small backhoe and proceeded to dig away at the concrete and dirt. well... all the utilities, telephone/electric/cable, are all buried in this neighborhood. of course they cut the cable (how they missed the telephone & electric is a miracle). took down an entire block of comcast subscribers, telephone/internet/television.

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I'll probably just pay the higher cost to have both DVDs and streaming. I like watching TV series on streaming much better than dealing with gaps of several days while I wait for DVDs to go back and forth or paying extra to have 2-3 DVDs out at a time. But the selection of streaming recent movies is pretty poor, so I need the DVD plan too (and it's cheaper and more convenient for me to pay Netflix $8 a month than to rent movies on Amazon or from a kiosk). I hope they use the extra money to add more movies and TV shows to instant streaming.

 

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http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-07-14-netflix-why-the-price-hike_n.htm


"Netflix has been trying to lure subscribers away from its DVDs by offering cheaper plans that include movies and TV episodes delivered over its Internet streaming service. In November, it began offering a streaming-only plan for $8, its cheapest option at the time. Yet Netflix customers aren't flocking to Internet video as quickly as some analysts said the company expected.

Many consumers are unwilling to give up the trademark red envelopes. DVDs feature newer titles and the latest theatrical releases that aren't available through the company's streaming service."


Well Duh...

 

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It shouldn't be a big shock to them. Until new releases, and for that matter a much bigger catalog in general, are available for streaming then most people will stay with physical media.

 

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Well that and if I want to watch a new blockbuster action flick; I require the full 5.1 DTS and would like as good video quality as can get (bluray). I do not mind streaming something I watched a million times for background noise or comedies, tv shows, and such.

But damn-it I want to annoy my neighbors on movie night lol.

 

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