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Amazing it took this long.


The official announcement:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=1220357

 

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Amazing it took this long.

 

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Amazing it took this long.

 

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http://www.1up.com/news/original-star-wars-mmo-shutting-down-december


Amazing it took this long.


The official announcement:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=1220357



rofl, so true. I remember when it first came out, i got into the beta a month before the release of the game and enjoyed it, bought the game and amonth or two later was asking why i did it.

 

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sarnsereg posted:
Spookysheep posted:
http://www.1up.com/news/original-star-wars-mmo-shutting-down-december


Amazing it took this long.


The official announcement:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=1220357



rofl, so true. I remember when it first came out, i got into the beta a month before the release of the game and enjoyed it, bought the game and amonth or two later was asking why i did it.



Yep. Same here.

 

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Some people definitely need to get a life.... and the shutdown of the game is possibly the best thing that could happen to them... I found this like on the official SWG forums:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWb3cxA4g_U

shock doh! laugh

(I seriously hope that video is just trolling)

 

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The_Korrigan posted:
Some people definitely need to get a life.... and the shutdown of the game is possibly the best thing that could happen to them... I found this like on the official SWG forums:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWb3cxA4g_U

shock doh! laugh

(I seriously hope that video is just trolling)


Must be real lonely way up on that pedestal. rolling_eyes

 

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This game died for me with the NGE debacle. s

 

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Kinda makes me sad..I loved the space combat part of SWG. I'd resub every once in a while just for that plain

 

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I played way back in beta. Logged in, got killed by a rat, logged out and trashed the CD's. Never looked back.

 

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I played way back in beta. Logged in, got killed by a rat, logged out and trashed the CD's. Never looked back.


I seriously laughed out loud at this. Oh geez, too much...

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWb3cxA4g_U




Wow...

 

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I played way back in beta. Logged in, got killed by a rat, logged out and trashed the CD's. Never looked back.
roflmao. Well for me I logged in, watched some of the dances since a friend of mine wanted me to see. Walked around. I think I spent a total of 30 minutes in the beta. Never once was tempted to actually play.

 

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That was the most entertaining youtube I've ever seen.

 

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Some people definitely need to get a life.... and the shutdown of the game is possibly the best thing that could happen to them... I found this like on the official SWG forums:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWb3cxA4g_U

shock doh! laugh

(I seriously hope that video is just trolling)


Leave Brittney alone! /sob


Oh the flashbacks.

 

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Acao posted:
This game died for me with the NGE debacle. s


This. I thoroughly enjoyed SWG until they pulled that nonsense.

 

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heiromancerdrackus posted:
Acao posted:
This game died for me with the NGE debacle. s


This. I thoroughly enjoyed SWG until they pulled that nonsense.

To this day I think it was forced onto Sony by Lucas Arts, I don't even think it was coded by the SWG dev crew. That is just about the only thing that can explain why the CU was completed and put into place only a few weeks before. It makes the stumbling changes buy the current WOW dev team seem positively benign.

 

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I never played SWG so what does NGE stand for?

 

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I never played SWG so what does NGE stand for?


'new game experience'. Basically they took a skill based MMO and turned it into a class based one. They axed several skill systems, such as Entertainer and Creature Handler (that were both VERY popular and integral to the game world) and made Jedi a common class. They also removed the more traditional MMO style combat and tried, miserably, to replicate an action game within the MMO space by giving you crosshairs and spam fire like a third person shooter instead of what the community had played for years.

In essence, they fundamentally gutted the game. It was a day that will live in infamy for many of us. As noted above, they had just done a full combat pass a few weeks prior to this as well. It was completely out of nowhere.

 

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Sounds like what Blizz is doing to WoW.

 

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Sounds like what Blizz is doing to WoW.



Not even in the same ballpark.

 

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How so? Making vast, sweeping changes in the game right?

 

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How so? Making vast, sweeping changes in the game right?

The NGE was as far beyond sweeping changes as a nuclear bomb is beyond a thrown rock. Someone that played vanilla WOW although they would be confused at first would recognize the game interactions. Imagine having popular but not "Warcrafty" classes being wiped from the game. Imagine that the remaining classes being so changed that re-rolling is probably the best way to stick with the game.

 

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How so? Making vast, sweeping changes in the game right?


There are changes and there are complete rewrites. Imagine taking KOTOR and turning it into Jedi Academy. That is the scope of what happened in that game regarding combat. Now take Asheron's Call or Darkfall or any other skill based game and turn it into WoW, with less choices. That is what happened to the progression system and character development system.

 

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Both sets of major changes, the combat upgrade and then the NGE, were successively worst than the original iteration of the game.... which was fun for a few weeks.

I'm actually surprised the game survived so long. I've often wondered if SOE made any money off of suckers that thought they were getting SWTOR with SWG or something.

 

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Its good that it is finally shutting down. Hopefully it will be one more wake up call to game buyers and developers alike.

 

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Actually, if you have ever worked with programmers/developers, you will know that they just don't care. What they program/develop is their baby and everyone else in the universe is wrong and they are right. In order to prove them wrong, you have to pain them into a corner and not give them any possible way out. Even then, they are still right and everyone else is stupid.

 

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Unfortunately, TF2 tends to get old faster than Cathleen Turner in my experience.

 

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heiromancerdrackus posted:
JaredKorry posted:
I never played SWG so what does NGE stand for?


'new game experience'. Basically they took a skill based MMO and turned it into a class based one. They axed several skill systems, such as Entertainer and Creature Handler (that were both VERY popular and integral to the game world) and made Jedi a common class. They also removed the more traditional MMO style combat and tried, miserably, to replicate an action game within the MMO space by giving you crosshairs and spam fire like a third person shooter instead of what the community had played for years.

In essence, they fundamentally gutted the game. It was a day that will live in infamy for many of us. As noted above, they had just done a full combat pass a few weeks prior to this as well. It was completely out of nowhere.


Good summary. I played the game from release, quit a couple of months after NGE, unsub'd all 5 of my accounts.

'Twas the worst thing they could have done to the game. It never recovered since.

 

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A report on yahoo said that it's getting axed because the contract expires, and not getting renewed from Lucas Arts due to the new game.

 

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To be honest though i think there are enough SWG fans out there that even with the "official" shut down, the game will still be around in private servers, it's seemed to happen with a lot of mmo's that are "dead"

 

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I would imagine this is to pave the way for the KOTRO MMO.

 

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Dang... I guess I waited too long to e-bay my unopened SW:G collector's edition.

 

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Dang... I guess I waited too long to e-bay my unopened SW:G collector's edition.


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Cawlin posted:
Dang... I guess I waited too long to e-bay my unopened SW:G collector's edition.


It's never too late to take a fool's money.


Hmm... I bought it in like 2003 or something, right after the game came out and for whatever reason, never got around to playing it. I then started to hear from other friends playing it and just decided against it... hmm... wonder what it's worth.

 

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Actually, if you have ever worked with programmers/developers, you will know that they just don't care. What they program/develop is their baby and everyone else in the universe is wrong and they are right. In order to prove them wrong, you have to pain them into a corner and not give them any possible way out. Even then, they are still right and everyone else is stupid.


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Peo, had to comment on your sig, it's driving me nuts. The first two lines are attributed to Victor Stenger; and while the last two are from Nietzsche, you could at least spell the man's name correctly, 'ie' not 'ei'.

As far as you comments about programmers/developers, maybe you're talking about self-labelled amateur hobbyists, because as an IT professional for 15+ years in both large and small shops, I've never had that experience, because anyone with that kind of attitude/behavior would be quickly unemployed.

 

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Peo, had to comment on your sig, it's driving me nuts. The first two lines are attributed to Victor Stenger; and while the last two are from Nietzsche, you could at least spell the man's name correctly, 'ie' not 'ei'.

As far as you comments about programmers/developers, maybe you're talking about self-labelled amateur hobbyists, because as an IT professional for 15+ years in both large and small shops, I've never had that experience, because anyone with that kind of attitude/behavior would be quickly unemployed.



1st, it's a sig, get laid and get over it. I am sorry it bothers you that I didn't attribute the 1st two lines to whoever, and as far as spelling, seriously, it isn't like I misspelled Smith. The next time you live your life perfectly without making a mistake, get back to me, I will pat you on the back.

2nd, I have 15+ years being a software tester and what I posted is absolutely the norm. Both in the corporate world of key card access, security and revenue control field, and as a game tester for Activision.

 

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2nd, I have 15+ years being a software tester and what I posted is absolutely the norm. Both in the corporate world of key card access, security and revenue control field, and as a game tester for Activision.
I've only had 13ish years in software QA but I submit that if you've had to work with devs like that, you've had some seriously sad experiences. I can count the devs I've known on one hand who have had attitudes like that. If they did, they'd quickly get a rep as a prima donna and shortly thereafter be shown what it's like to be unemployed. I suppose if you're in a huge multinational corporation, you can bury a few devs like that in the masses but even then it's still rare.

A possible partial exception is when talking about Microsoft. Arguably, that's a matter of perception on the part of the customer because if they spent dev resources on everyone's pet-peeve low-severity (with a workaround) bugs they'd never ship product.

 

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Well.

Let's talk about Infinity Ward. Creator of CoD:MW. Arguably one of the greatest games to be released in the last couple years.

When I worked for Activision, in a certain department, we found issues that were marked MF.. Must fix, as in, we won't submit this game to microsoft unless you fix these issues. Our department was told, in no uncertain terms, that these issues would not be fixed.

Basically their programmers said FU, we won't fix it. I guess I have known some seriously egotistical programmers. We even had Microsoft tell them to fix the issues, and they took on MS. It was CoD, and MS REALLY wanted it to be released, so the programmers won.

 

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Actually, if you have ever worked with programmers/developers, you will know that they just don't care. What they program/develop is their baby and everyone else in the universe is wrong and they are right. In order to prove them wrong, you have to pain them into a corner and not give them any possible way out. Even then, they are still right and everyone else is stupid.
I have no doubt that the ace "developers" you know who typed all the example contained in the book "Java for Dummies" work that way, but in a real work environment, that kind of behavior will get you a quick boot without thanks and without paycheck. This comes from a developer who works in the industry for 25 years now.

 

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I know right, cuz the devs that work for the biggest game company in the world are SO small time.

Dipshit.

 

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Actually, if you have ever worked with programmers/developers, you will know that they just don't care. What they program/develop is their baby and everyone else in the universe is wrong and they are right. In order to prove them wrong, you have to pain them into a corner and not give them any possible way out. Even then, they are still right and everyone else is stupid.
I have no doubt that the ace "developers" you know who typed all the example contained in the book "Java for Dummies" work that way, but in a real work environment, that kind of behavior will get you a quick boot without thanks and without paycheck. This comes from a developer who works in the industry for 25 years now.


Thanks for proving -Peo- right with this post.

 

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and as a game tester for Activision.


lol you make that job sound like it qualifies you as something. It is an minimum wage job, basically the gaming industries equivalent of flipping burgers.

You sit in front of a TV or monitor attached to a computer or game console, and are told to play a specific level of the game repeatedly and report every any bugs you find. You have no interaction with developers at that job aside from getting your next "assignment" lol.

 

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Well.

Let's talk about Infinity Ward. Creator of CoD:MW. Arguably one of the greatest games to be released in the last couple years.

When I worked for Activision, in a certain department, we found issues that were marked MF.. Must fix, as in, we won't submit this game to microsoft unless you fix these issues. Our department was told, in no uncertain terms, that these issues would not be fixed.

Basically their programmers said FU, we won't fix it. I guess I have known some seriously egotistical programmers. We even had Microsoft tell them to fix the issues, and they took on MS. It was CoD, and MS REALLY wanted it to be released, so the programmers won.


Yeah I am sure the Developers of game really care what the $8.00 an hour testing monkey with nothing but a high school diploma has to say.

Those damn egotistical Devs!

lmao.

 

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Then again, you don't know jack shit about what I did for Activision, you are just posting out your ass. Not everyone works on the floor as a console jockey, dipshit.

Par for the course, since you are clueless about everything else. I could qualify myself to you, but it wouldn't matter, you just wanna talk trash. Feel free, you opinion is worth about the 5 seconds it takes to read and dismiss.

 

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Then again, you don't know jack shit about what I did for Activision, you are just posting out your ass. Not everyone works on the floor as a console jockey, dipshit.

Par for the course, since you are clueless about everything else. I could qualify myself to you, but it wouldn't matter, you just wanna talk trash. Feel free, you opinion is worth about the 5 seconds it takes to read and dismiss.


lol yes I am sure you were someone important at Activision.

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-Peo- posted:
Then again, you don't know jack shit about what I did for Activision, you are just posting out your ass. Not everyone works on the floor as a console jockey, dipshit.

Par for the course, since you are clueless about everything else. I could qualify myself to you, but it wouldn't matter, you just wanna talk trash. Feel free, you opinion is worth about the 5 seconds it takes to read and dismiss.


Durrrrrr, I am a dumbass, so instead of saying anything useful, I will try to make fun of the other guy, especially when I don't know what I am talking about. Duurrrrr.


Fix't.

Tell you what, the day I need to prove anything to you is the day I will tell you my real name and you can go look it up in the credits of the games I worked on. Can you say the same?

Didn't think so.

Duurrrrr.

 

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Fix't.

Tell you what, the day I need to prove anything to you is the day I will tell you my real name and you can go look it up in the credits of the games I worked on. Can you say the same?

Didn't think so.

Duurrrrr.


Of course I can say the same. Anyone can claim anything on a message board.

It is ok though, I am sure your e-rep is still intact with your e-buddies.

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Durrr durrr durrrrrrrrrrrrr



 

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This thread is going places.

 

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I liked the part where he said I was trying to earn e-cred with my e-buddies.

Seriously? Wtf, people on this board don't like me, I am considered a nut job, exactly what e-cred am I trying to build or maintain and with whom?

silly

 

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I liked the part where he said I was trying to earn e-cred with my e-buddies.

Seriously? Wtf, people on this board don't like me, I am considered a nut job, exactly what e-cred am I trying to build or maintain and with whom?

silly


I dont know about anybody else, but your posts here have really upped your nut job e-cred with him. I believe it more then ever!

 

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I told everyone like, 5 years ago that SWG was going to be cancelled!!! laugh

 

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I liked the part where he said I was trying to earn e-cred with my e-buddies.

Seriously? Wtf, people on this board don't like me, I am considered a nut job, exactly what e-cred am I trying to build or maintain and with whom?

silly


Self proclaimed nut jobs are usually the least... just sayin. tongue

Your nuttiness is e-lite. sleep

j/k Im sure you could ramp it up if you really wanted to. peace Just dont ramp it up in my direction! worried

 

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I told everyone like, 5 years ago that SWG was going to be cancelled!!! laugh


Oh well damn, let me be the first to get it in that WoW is going to be canceled!

 

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Fedup23 posted:
I told everyone like, 5 years ago that SWG was going to be cancelled!!! laugh


Oh well damn, let me be the first to get it in that WoW is going to be canceled!


shame_on_you Mine was a follow up to a previous Nostradamnian moment.

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One of the very few sandbox games, with lots and lots of stuff to do outside of combat.

Also not that many space games.

Fewer choices, not necessarily a good thing.

I would assume people who want sandbox games would be a bit bummed, the number of sandbox games doesn't seem to be going up.

 

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