Auenwing posted:

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I took psych classes at Sac State over 23 years ago, thinking about an additional degree in psych during my 30s.

At the time, ALL lower level psych students were required to participate in surveys created by the higher level psych students (also a requirement).

The ones I experienced were full of "tricks" and obvious. At the time, answering their surveys, I indicated that they could not use my results since apparently I understood what they were testing for and how. My results would throw their tests because I could manipulate my answers depending on what I thought they did or did not want to hear. Maybe the tests were poorly designed at the time, I don't know. Most psychology surveys are flawed at a deep structural level. I find that situation is still the case today, whenever surveys like this pop up, so I will regretfully decline.


You will find out here, on the boards, that these surveys pop up about every 6 months or so, and many players find them unwelcome for a variety of reasons.

Good luck with your studies.

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Fedup23 posted:

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You is 2 intellergint fer theim.!!!

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Isoke posted:

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lol. After all the shady/silly survey posts on these boards (including some I was happy to assist in trashing), one finally appears that actually sets up a proper set of ethical standards, but everyone decides it's worthless based on all the expertise they have from their...undergraduate psychology classes. This is probably the first legit-appearing study I've seen on these boards, and I've been subscribed for awhile.

I don't buy the claims, which I hear all the time, about how 'easy' it is to 'fool' a good survey (you'd be surprised). And of freaking course the surveys you'll see coming out of graduate classes are often less than stellar. They're a learning experience. Duh. A really well-crafted survey is a rare (and expensive) creature. But even a less-than-perfect survey can provide reasonably good, if basic, information, as long as it's interpreted based on a full understanding of its limitations. And obviously nobody should take part in a study unless they are completely comfortable with it.

Let me toss one thing out there to consider, though...when the fanatics out there (and believe me, they're out there) who believe that gaming is the Root of All Evil start trying to pass anti-game legislation or create insanely restrictive regulations, one of the most effective counterpoints gaming companies have is solid research.

This particular study may or may not ever contribute to that body of research. It's way too soon to know. But if y'all are going to get all knee-jerky about it to the point where you'd never consider participating in any gaming study, then that's a great loss. Because there are very strong organizations out there lobbying constantly against many aspects of gaming, and without documented research demonstrating that gaming is not in fact evil and destructive, we are left more vulnerable to the crazies.

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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God there's been a lot of these over the years. This must be the last refuge of the psychology student who isn't actually good enough at their chosen field to find a real topic to study, so they look at their own gaming addiction instead.

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Shenron_ posted:

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i just don't get how this kind of stuff can be used for a graduate degree...i remember when school actually took a little effort. maybe for a highschool project but for a graduate thesis!!?

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Isoke posted:

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But even a less-than-perfect survey can provide reasonably good, if basic, information, as long as it's interpreted based on a full understanding of its limitations. And obviously nobody should take part in a study unless they are completely comfortable with it.

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-Peo- posted:

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What a waste of tuition.

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Dums posted:

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You score points by responding imo.

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Spookysheep posted:

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Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. I will participate in your study if you will participate in mine.

I am studying the effects of sunlight and social deprivation on college students in order to better understand victims of sociopaths. The study would entail you being chained up in my basement for a time period to be determined (by me). The events of your stay must be kept confidential and you will need to sign a consent form ahead of time.


So do we have a deal?

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regulator_cracka posted:

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Spookysheep posted:

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Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. I will participate in your study if you will participate in mine.

I am studying the effects of sunlight and social deprivation on college students in order to better understand victims of sociopaths. The study would entail you being chained up in my basement for a time period to be determined (by me). The events of your stay must be kept confidential and you will need to sign a consent form ahead of time.


So do we have a deal?

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So you asking to lock up a presumed college male in your basement? Just a wee creepy.

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NukeMage posted:

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-Peo- posted:

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What a waste of tuition.

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Maybe, but at least the OP is doing "something" other than getting drunk and sleeping with every other person they come across.

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NukeMage posted:

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-Peo- posted:

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What a waste of tuition.

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Maybe, but at least the OP is doing "something" other than getting drunk and sleeping with every other person they come across.

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Boone-Eldar posted:

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NukeMage posted:

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-Peo- posted:

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What a waste of tuition.

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Maybe, but at least the OP is doing "something" other than getting drunk and sleeping with every other person they come across.

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I did not find that to be a bad way to go through college...

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Arunne posted:

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Boone-Eldar posted:

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I did not find that to be a bad way to go through college...

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I agree, i wish my college life was half this exciting.

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regulator_cracka posted:

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Spookysheep posted:

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Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. I will participate in your study if you will participate in mine.

I am studying the effects of sunlight and social deprivation on college students in order to better understand victims of sociopaths. The study would entail you being chained up in my basement for a time period to be determined (by me). The events of your stay must be kept confidential and you will need to sign a consent form ahead of time.


So do we have a deal?

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So you asking to lock up a presumed college male in your basement? Just a wee creepy.

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Stalker_Moonshadow posted:

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"I took psych classes at Sac State over 23 years ago, thinking about an additional degree in psych during my 30s. "

The math doesn't work unless you were a child prodigy...

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Quazimortal posted:

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Stalker_Moonshadow posted:

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"I took psych classes at Sac State over 23 years ago, thinking about an additional degree in psych during my 30s. "

The math doesn't work unless you were a child prodigy...

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You are just bad at math.

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PallyDog posted:

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regulator_cracka posted:

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Spookysheep posted:

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Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. I will participate in your study if you will participate in mine.

I am studying the effects of sunlight and social deprivation on college students in order to better understand victims of sociopaths. The study would entail you being chained up in my basement for a time period to be determined (by me). The events of your stay must be kept confidential and you will need to sign a consent form ahead of time.


So do we have a deal?

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So you asking to lock up a presumed college male in your basement? Just a wee creepy.

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Spooky's just going to make him farm gold and level his characters.

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PallyDog posted:

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regulator_cracka posted:

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Spookysheep posted:

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Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. I will participate in your study if you will participate in mine.

I am studying the effects of sunlight and social deprivation on college students in order to better understand victims of sociopaths. The study would entail you being chained up in my basement for a time period to be determined (by me). The events of your stay must be kept confidential and you will need to sign a consent form ahead of time.


So do we have a deal?

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So you asking to lock up a presumed college male in your basement? Just a wee creepy.

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Spooky's just going to make him farm gold and level his characters.

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Jyiiga posted:

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Errtuu posted:

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This forum - Daily validation of John Gabriel’s Greater Internet Fu*kwad Theory.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/

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Trigeminal posted:

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The current version of the DSM categorizes me with paranoid personality disorder. Does that help your study? I play WoW a fair amount.

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Boone-Eldar posted:

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Errtuu posted:

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This forum - Daily validation of John Gabriel’s Greater Internet Fu*kwad Theory.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/

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Indeed.

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Arcilite_I posted:

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This thread is proof that most of you need some serious psychological help...

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Ugh_Lancelot posted:

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Call the police immediately. That Russian Mafia goon standing behind you forcing you at gunpoint to participate in this forum should be locked up immediately! /serious_face

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Arcilite_I posted:

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This thread is proof that most of you need some serious psychological help...

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njwCSUS posted:

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I am still in need of participants, I have gotten very little response so far and have nowhere near enough data. I have only 40 or so across all my advertising, and I need at least 100 for a good sample. :/

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Blisteringballs posted:

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The aggression he's receiving from MMO players while just soliciting for the study should be noted and examined too.

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GutterSludge posted:

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Pshh..30 is a large enough sample to assume normality in your distribution..and you have 40.


100 won't be much different.

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Spookysheep posted:

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Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. I will participate in your study if you will participate in mine.

I am studying the effects of sunlight and social deprivation on college students in order to better understand victims of sociopaths. The study would entail you being chained up in my basement for a time period to be determined (by me). The events of your stay must be kept confidential and you will need to sign a consent form ahead of time.


So do we have a deal?

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njwCSUS posted:

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... so far I'm really just getting a slow trickle...

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kyrv posted:

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Spookysheep posted:

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Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. I will participate in your study if you will participate in mine.

I am studying the effects of sunlight and social deprivation on college students in order to better understand victims of sociopaths. The study would entail you being chained up in my basement for a time period to be determined (by me). The events of your stay must be kept confidential and you will need to sign a consent form ahead of time.


So do we have a deal?

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It puts the lotion on its skin.

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njwCSUS posted:

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Thats okay, I have already considered that I may need to filter out such responses from my results. The statistical analysis software I use is good about finding outlier data.

Such problems are unavoidable when it comes to participation in self-response type surveys anyway, especially on the internet where anonymity may lead people to behave in more socially-dissaproved ways. I will take into account such things in reporting my data.

Thanks for your comments and continued interest!

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kyrv posted:

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Can I guess that you aren't a communications or English major?

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GutterSludge posted:

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He's damn sure not a statistics major

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GutterSludge posted:

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Of course not.

What is "psycho" as a major, 90 hours, with 30 hours free for basket weaving and bowling electives?

3 hour classes, maximum?


Maximum math requirement of 'college algebra'?


I don't expect you to understand anything about statistical analysis.


Now that that is out of the way, I think it is time we discussed your ongoing sexual attraction to your mother...

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GutterSludge posted:

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By your response, I hit the nail on the head with the course-load, and the only issue you chose to rebut was my calling your major 'psycho'....

Tell me honestly you have never told someone you were a 'Psych' major. The term is used all of the time...by psychology majors.


I embellished on that term, making it 'Psycho', to purposefully degrade you, and your major.


A more educated person would have immediately understood this...

The bottom line is that you lacked the intellect and mathematical skills to undertake a real science major, so you chose a 'pseudo-science' field with minimal math requirements and plenty of electives.

Higher education indeed.

None of which addresses your ongoing sexual attraction to your mother.

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njwCSUS posted:

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P.S. I'm homosexual, so really, its ongoing sexual attraction to my father, not my mother. ;P

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Spookysheep posted:

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Enjoy your long career at McDonalds with your psych degree that everyone and their brother has

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Kordirn posted:

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Spookysheep posted:

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Enjoy your long career at McDonalds with your psych degree that everyone and their brother has

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Could be worse, he could be a philosophy major.

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njwCSUS posted:

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Double major in undergraduate actually. Psychology and Philosophy.

Philosophy was just for fun. ;D

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GutterSludge posted:

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njwCSUS posted:

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Double major in undergraduate actually. Psychology and Philosophy.

Philosophy was just for fun. ;D

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So, you are twice the leech on society...

It's really too bad that anything beyond Algebra is too complicated for you, you might have actually been able to produce something useful.

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GutterSludge posted:

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Hmm...

Methinks we have another mathematical failure in our midst.

And Elka,

If I had to guess, you were in those "special reading" classes in high school, weren't you?

You know the ones...

.. where they grouped all of the kids who got promoted to the next grade not based on their merits, but because they were the only 5th graders old enough to legally buy alcohol?


It's O.K.. Take pride in your ignorance. It's all you will ever have.

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Elkabong08 posted:

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You know that unmentionable act that most guys perform while watching internet porn? Guttersludge performs that same act while solving quadratic equations. In his head.

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Spookysheep posted:

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Elkabong08 posted:

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You know that unmentionable act that most guys perform while watching internet porn? Guttersludge performs that same act while solving quadratic equations. In his head.

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Funny, you are the only person in this thread (hell, on the Board) who thinks of a correlation between math, pornography, and self gratification o.0


Seek help bro.

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