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Is the gear better in these than the stuff that drops in Northrend dungeons? I have never done one and was wondering if I should bother.
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Northrend green quest gear is better than what you would find in BC heroics.
Gearing prior to 85 is a complete waste of time unless you just really enjoy the grind.
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Dont' bother ever. The gear from the next xpac is always beter stat wise unless you're grinding high end raids adn tier gear. And even then it's not worth it since queues now go by ilvl.
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Spookysheep posted:
Northrend green quest gear is better than what you would find in BC heroics.
This just seems dumb to me. But thanks, it answers my ?
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Ashmaele posted:
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Northrend green quest gear is better than what you would find in BC heroics.
This just seems dumb to me. But thanks, it answers my ?
WoW has always significantly stat inflated gear with each xpac. There would little incentive to go play the new xpac if one did not get a bigger, shinier carrot for their efforts 
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Ashmaele posted:
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Northrend green quest gear is better than what you would find in BC heroics.
This just seems dumb to me. But thanks, it answers my ?
If you were considering jumping into BC Heroics, just go for the WOTLK normal dungeons as soon as you can for substantial upgrades!!
The only BC gear that will last you well into WOTLK would be Sunwell gear - some of which will last you to 80 (from what I understood) - but only worth trying to get if you have a half dozen good friends (at level 85) to zoom you through there.
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Ashmaele posted:
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Northrend green quest gear is better than what you would find in BC heroics.
This just seems dumb to me. But thanks, it answers my ?
the reason for this is they wanted people to be able to get new stuff right off when the expansion came out. everyone was already geared up with BC gear and they wanted the quest gear in the first zone of the expansion to be worthwhile.
so from the standpoint of expansion release it makes sense, but further down the road where we are now and the only people progressing to northrend are those leveling up who haven't done any BC heroics it seems stupid because you'd have to work harder to get worse gear.
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Actually, the reason for it is so everyone's capable of doing the content in the new expansion pack. If the new content was balanced around characters with the top end raid gear it would be brutal for ungeared characters. If the content was balanced around toons in greens it would be trivial for geared toons. By making large jumps in gear they can get everyone on equal footing gearwise.
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Shenron_ posted:
i like gathering bc socketed gear on all my alts and gemming them up with wotlk gems. its fun going into a bg at level 70 with almost 20k hp.
You're going to max out at about 15 sockets (rough estimation) in all your gear if you focused on Socketed gear. So if you fitted WOTLK Stam gems in all of them, the most you're gonna gain is 15 x 15 stam (difference between BC epic Stam and WOTLK Epic Stam - ignoring JC gems)... only 2,250 HP... hardly a noticable difference versus anyone else is it??
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NukeMage posted:
Ashmaele posted:
Spookysheep posted:
Northrend green quest gear is better than what you would find in BC heroics.
This just seems dumb to me. But thanks, it answers my ?
WoW has always significantly stat inflated gear with each xpac. There would little incentive to go play the new xpac if one did not get a bigger, shinier carrot for their efforts
Yep, Blizzard is always goob in feeding the nerds with new an better stuff 
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TruthyID posted:
Actually, the reason for it is so everyone's capable of doing the content in the new expansion pack. If the new content was balanced around characters with the top end raid gear it would be brutal for ungeared characters. If the content was balanced around toons in greens it would be trivial for geared toons. By making large jumps in gear they can get everyone on equal footing gearwise.
This makes complete sense.
To me, though, I hate that it was necessary to trivialize each preceeding xpac whenever they released a new one. I guess it's the way of MMOs.
I'd like to see a re-vamping of what used to be "end game" content in vanilla (Silithus needs love). I'd like to have a reason other than nostalgia to visit zones like that.
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I'd like to see a re-vamping of what used to be "end game" content in vanilla (Silithus needs love). I'd like to have a reason other than nostalgia to visit zones like that.
You are in luck! Cataclysm is focusing on regurgitating old content so all you need is patience for them to get to the dungeons/raids that you want revamped.
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Quazimortal posted:
Ashmaele posted:
I'd like to see a re-vamping of what used to be "end game" content in vanilla (Silithus needs love). I'd like to have a reason other than nostalgia to visit zones like that.
You are in luck! Cataclysm is focusing on regurgitating old content so all you need is patience for them to get to the dungeons/raids that you want revamped.
And like anything regurgitated, it is much easier to chew up this time around although the taste leaves something to be desired . .
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Shenron_ posted:
i think 2250 hp is indeed signifcant in that level range. but thats not the main appeal. by using a socketed item with stamina gems in the first place it can have significantly more stamina (but probably less overall stats) than a level 70 wotlk item even if you were using bc gems.
Ahh... I see, I hadn't looked at it from that angle. If you laoded Stam opposed to gearing 'correctly' you would be up 5k almost on others, which is going to be 30%+ higher in a lot of cases.
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