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Topic: Topic of the Week - PTR

Vault_News Title: 0110011010 Be Nice to Me I'm a Bot Posts: 43,785 Registered: Oct 18, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 42,467 User ID: 1,086,234	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	The Public Test Realm is there for any players with a current subscription to check out and test the upcoming changes for the new patches. You download the "test" client and then transfer a character or start a new one. Have you ever done it before? Do you feel it's worth it or would you rather wait for the content to go live? Do you lurk on the PTR Discussion Forum to see what people are saying about the changes? The Topic of the Week is a contest run by WoW Vault! The best reply will receive VIP Insider for 2 weeks! Potential winning posts are judged according to length, interpretation of the subject and writing style.Disclaimer: Winners with too many ToS violations on their account may not be eligible to receive the reward. Posted from WoW Vault -----signature----- (none)
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Ferrydust Title: Iron Chef Jennifer Posts: 10,588 Registered: Sep 4, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 10,382 User ID: 711,372	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	Yes, I jump on the PTR once in a while to check out arena's before they go live with class changes. What usually happens though is something like this: Some class 1 shots other classes with some OP ability and people bring it up on long threads on the PTR forums. It goes live anyway and then gets hotfixed 2 weeks later after said class has reached the top of the ladder and is sitting on the rating. -----signature----- I, on the other hand, prefer a command-line system 'cause i'm so hardcore /north /north You encounter an [Avatar of the god Set]! /cast sheild sheild spell unavailable /csat shield csat: unknown command [Avatar of Set] beheads [Peasant]
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Taloquin Posts: 360 Registered: Nov 20, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 358 User ID: 860,145	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	No, I never touch the PTR. I might if it weren't for the fact that my mods and UI break 90% of the time on the PTR. I've used the same heavily modified UI for more than 3 years, and it's just ridiculously hard for me to play without. I have a ton of action bars, more than the default game uses, with nearly every button having it's own keybind combination. That just doesn't transfer to PTRs, and I'm not going to spend the hours it'd take to rebuild it there. -----signature----- I'm a lurker and I know it. Post count just means you spend too much time reading and not enough playing. :P
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Dums Title: Moderator The mystery flavor Posts: 8,245 Registered: Oct 29, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,576 User ID: 732,266	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	Yep. Raid testing -----signature----- hi
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lilkit_wow Posts: ???? Registered: ???? Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 0 User ID: 0	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	Considering all the damned obvious bugs that make it through to the live servers, they ought to just call the PTR, the EPR (Early Preview Realm), because all of the people that I know who go there, don't do it to help find bugs or streamline things, but instead just to see content before other people. That way when it goes live they can just ROFLSTOMP it and then bitch endlessly that they are bored again and there is nothing to do. -----signature-----
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-Peo- Title: Caveat Lector Posts: 3,208 Registered: Feb 2, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 3,155 User ID: 1,024,262	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	lilkit_wow posted: Considering all the damned obvious bugs that make it through to the live servers, they ought to just call the PTR, the EPR (Early Preview Realm), because all of the people that I know who go there, don't do it to help find bugs or streamline things, but instead just to see content before other people. That way when it goes live they can just ROFLSTOMP it and then bitch endlessly that they are bored again and there is nothing to do. Incorrect. The PTR is useless for one reason, GC and his goons don't listen to anyone, regardless of proof. This can be demonstrated by the need to hotfix things months later that a monkey could see 5 seconds in on the PTR. PTR in a nutshell is this, "come test our stuff but we won't listen to anything that isn't a glowing testimony to our perfect game and consummate skill at game development" Essentially, the PTR is the official forums. -----signature----- SWTOR, Maybe in a year. Back to WoW for now. With a lil f2p CoH.
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Voqar Posts: 8,454 Registered: Mar 12, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,255 User ID: 73,152	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	I keep up on the PTR notes to see what's coming but I have no desire to preview it, test it, or fling poo with the subhumans that post on the official forums. Content comes too slowly for WoW and previewing it would just crush the 2 weeks or so of feast vs months of famine factor even more. Not to mention I can barely motivate myself to log in at all outside of raid times. You have to understand that I love WoW and consider it the best MMORPG period, and amongst the best PC games ever - but - the content just comes out too slowly and cata is too fast and easy outside of raids. I have 9 raid capable 85's and my last toon is 84 and levels idiotically fast just doing instances occasionally (will hit 85 having done maybe 1/3 of hyjal and enough highlands to unlock the portal - otherwise all rested xp from instances). I can't stomach more heroics or zuls to get the one or two pieces that are marginal upgrades per toon (so very sick of RNG and loot tables in heroics and raids), my interest in pvp comes, goes, and is currently gone, crushing old content for achievements makes me wanna punch a kitten, etc. Fast expac, slow release of new content...not much to do no matter how much you love the game. New content is the only thing worth doing these days. Give me some more character slots so I can roll a nub to enjoy the revised leveling zones (on the server where all my friends play). So my point is, if you can barely get yourself to log in to the live servers, why would you screw around on the PTR? :P If bliz' moronic GC and the stooges crew insist on continually mutilating and dumbing down the game, they need to speed up new content production by about 500% because we're well beyond the more typical content digestion syndrome in WoW these days. lilkit_wow posted: Considering all the damned obvious bugs that make it through to the live servers, they ought to just call the PTR, the EPR (Early Preview Realm), because all of the people that I know who go there, don't do it to help find bugs or streamline things, but instead just to see content before other people. That way when it goes live they can just ROFLSTOMP it and then bitch endlessly that they are bored again and there is nothing to do. Agreed and also agree with Peo...GC and the stooges don't listen to anyone...they're too busy developing by feel (we felt this need to be gutted and mutilated, enjoy suckers) or coming up with garbage nobody wants (cross server realid grouping for a fee for the 3 people that might use it). -----signature----- Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that - George Carlin
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Trigeminal Title: Drill, Fill, Bill Posts: 11,233 Registered: Mar 17, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 11,153 User ID: 658,468	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	I'm a gentle, quiet person in real-life. However, I wouldn't hesitate a second to throat-punch Ghostcrawler if I ever met him. -----signature----- PvPing since 1975
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Spookysheep Title: Lieker of Cheese Posts: 21,595 Registered: Jan 9, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 21,166 User ID: 601,475	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	Trigeminal posted: I'm a gentle, quiet person in real-life. However, I wouldn't hesitate a second to throat-punch Ghostcrawler if I ever met him. Just think, there is a moron out there who thinks it is a good idea to keep GC employed, and that guy makes even more money than GC. Now if anyone needs a throat punch... -----signature----- I liek cheese Pirates > Ninjas .....................................
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Ugh_Lancelot Title: Ooo...bouncy! Posts: 5,492 Registered: Jun 17, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,446 User ID: 689,383	Subject: Topic of the Week - PTR
	-Peo- posted: The PTR is useless for one reason, GC and his goons don't listen to anyone, regardless of proof. This can be demonstrated by the need to hotfix things months later that a monkey could see 5 seconds in on the PTR. PTR in a nutshell is this, "come test our stuff but we won't listen to anything that isn't a glowing testimony to our perfect game and consummate skill at game development" Essentially, the PTR is the official forums. This. On a related note, there's a concept in software/hardware development called "dog-fooding," or basically using your own product. If Blizzard had the entire company play on the PTR two nights a week or something and report bugs back to a coordinator, they'd catch a ton more than they do in QA. This isn't really a failing in the QA team itself, it's more a resource problem and an environment/integration problem in that the controlled environment that QA normally tests in just can't accurately simulate a production environment. Then there's the whole problem where the PTR is only up sometimes, which means unlike other games I've played you don't have a regular population that plays on the PTR and is used to reporting bugs and looking for them. -----signature----- WoW and DAoC - Too many alts to count Charter Member - Altaholics Anonymous
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