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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2548785589?page=1
With the continued popularity of the Dungeon Finder, many players have been asking for a way to group up with real-life friends who play on other realms to take on instances together. Today, we wanted to give you a heads up about a new feature currently in development that will allow players to invite Real ID friends of the same faction to a party regardless of the realm they play on, and then queue up for a 5-player regular or Heroic dungeon.
As this is a fairly complex service to develop, we don’t have a release date to share quite yet. It’s important to note that as with some of the other convenience- and connectivity-oriented features we offer, certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based, though only the player sending the invitations will need to have access to the premium service. We'll have more details to share with you as development progresses -- in the meantime, you may begin to see elements of the feature appear on the World of Warcraft PTR.
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My Real ID is disabled, and always will be.
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I would love to see cross-realm and cross-faction.
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It just amazes me at how much more "Premium" stuff they're starting to add.
Maybe it's just me but you'd think the 150 million + a month they make from subscription fees would be enough to cover a feature like this without us all forking over another 2-3 dollars a month.
I think blizzard realises they are charging the absolute most they can and get away with it at $15 a month and will now nickel and dime us to get us to pay more a month. $3 for AH/guild chat on a phone, then probably another $2 a month for this so that a lot of people will be paying $20 a month. then keep tossign out $25 pets/mounts on the blizzard store every couple months and they're just banking it all then expect us to pay more for features they're addind that should just be part of the game.
(edit, I get paying a fee to use my phone to /gchat or use the AH as that's taking a new development team essentially to write code and figure out how to get it to work on all the phones out there, etc. but this will essentially just be an upgraded battle.net feature that they forced everyone who plays wow into using(i'm fine with that i chose to do it when they had it in beta) but really... in game features shouldn't cost extra.)
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I guess when it comes down to it.
Will you roll a new character on a new server to play with your buds? Or will you pay for such a feature? Guess which Blizzard is banking on.
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I can't help but think Blizzard will suddenly release it *premium free* and everyone will be so happy that they will activate real-id and then, in the end Blizzard will have gotten people to use real id who never wanted to in the past. Remember when the boards blew up because of real id? I still think they are trying to convert everyone. But I may be cynical.
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This is a pretty cool idea, charging extra for it is total bs, but it's a cool idea nonetheless.
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kyrv posted:
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certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based
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[quote=Ferrydust]certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based
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Not sure if you meant that, but that is pretty funny and kind of ironic.
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I think Gutter wins the prize for most quoted poster.
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Last time I checked the official boards had 8 threads that had reached the post limit filled with outrage over charging for this feature and they had started a 9th. Who had the bright idea to further alienate loyal customers just after they announced that they've lost 600k subs?
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Last time I checked the official boards had 8 threads that had reached the post limit filled with outrage over charging for this feature and they had started a 9th. Who had the bright idea to further alienate loyal customers just after they announced that they've lost 600k subs?
5 bucks on Ghostcrawler.
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Broken_Kayfabe posted:
<blockquote>Ferrydust posted:
certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based
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Quazimortal posted:
TruthyID posted:
Last time I checked the official boards had 8 threads that had reached the post limit filled with outrage over charging for this feature and they had started a 9th. Who had the bright idea to further alienate loyal customers just after they announced that they've lost 600k subs?
5 bucks on Ghostcrawler.
I'll take that bet. Ghostcrawler just screws up on in game stuff (pretty much constantly). Something like this, raw greed and disdain for players, reeks of Kotick.
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Ferrydust posted:
certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based
Rob Pardo, Blizzard senior VP posted:
We chose to go with the subscription-based model instead of that approach. We've taken the approach that we want players to feel like it's a level playing field once they're in WoW. Outside resources don't play into it -- no gold buying, etc. We take a hard line stance against it. What you get out of microtransactions is kind of the same thing and I think our player base would feel betrayed by it. I think that's something else you have to decide on up-front instead of implementing later.
Mounts, pets, even stuff like mobile AH weren't really crossing into the Micro-transaction territory. This one sure is.
I thought we paid a subscription to avoid this stuff?
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Dums posted:
Ferrydust posted:
certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based
Rob Pardo, Blizzard senior VP posted:
We chose to go with the subscription-based model instead of that approach. We've taken the approach that we want players to feel like it's a level playing field once they're in WoW. Outside resources don't play into it -- no gold buying, etc. We take a hard line stance against it. What you get out of microtransactions is kind of the same thing and I think our player base would feel betrayed by it. I think that's something else you have to decide on up-front instead of implementing later.
Mounts, pets, even stuff like mobile AH weren't really crossing into the Micro-transaction territory. This one sure is.
I thought we paid a subscription to avoid this stuff?
I agree, making people pay for in-game features is crossing a line. I really don't see what the upside is for Blizzard in this either. I can't imagine that they'll end up making money on this once you factor in the people that will cancel their subs in disgust.
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for awhile now they have been setting up the game to have subscription plans like Sony has for eq2.. not sure why people are shocked by this.
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not a bad idea, but paying for this its a scandal, i say SCANDAL!
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Dums posted:
Ferrydust posted:
certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based
Rob Pardo, Blizzard senior VP posted:
We chose to go with the subscription-based model instead of that approach. We've taken the approach that we want players to feel like it's a level playing field once they're in WoW. Outside resources don't play into it -- no gold buying, etc. We take a hard line stance against it. What you get out of microtransactions is kind of the same thing and I think our player base would feel betrayed by it. I think that's something else you have to decide on up-front instead of implementing later.
Mounts, pets, even stuff like mobile AH weren't really crossing into the Micro-transaction territory. This one sure is.
I thought we paid a subscription to avoid this stuff?
I don't see how these two are incongruous vis-a-vis the "level playing field" statement.
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Ugh_Lancelot posted:
Dums posted:
Ferrydust posted:
certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based
Rob Pardo, Blizzard senior VP posted:
We chose to go with the subscription-based model instead of that approach. We've taken the approach that we want players to feel like it's a level playing field once they're in WoW. Outside resources don't play into it -- no gold buying, etc. We take a hard line stance against it. What you get out of microtransactions is kind of the same thing and I think our player base would feel betrayed by it. I think that's something else you have to decide on up-front instead of implementing later.
Mounts, pets, even stuff like mobile AH weren't really crossing into the Micro-transaction territory. This one sure is.
I thought we paid a subscription to avoid this stuff?
I don't see how these two are incongruous vis-a-vis the "level playing field" statement.
Because things like mobile auction house or the guild chat are features that are also available at your computer, in game. This, however, is completely client side, with no free equivalent.
I know it's tinfoily and doomsayish, but think about it. This is a whole new frontier for Blizzard, and really, any subscription based mmo. If this does turn out to be a slippery slope type thing (it may not), you'll soon start to see things we've wanted in game for a very long time become 'premium'.
Take it back to wrath. This would be like saying, "You can still use the LFG channel on your realm, but in order to access the dungeon finder you need to pay a premium.".
As far as level playing field... I suppose that's a stretch, sure. The fact is that they're two different things, dungeon finder for one set of people and dungeon finder for another.
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I suppose I should add that I don't use RealID 
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Ugh_Lancelot posted:
Dums posted:
Ferrydust posted:
certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based
Rob Pardo, Blizzard senior VP posted:
We chose to go with the subscription-based model instead of that approach. We've taken the approach that we want players to feel like it's a level playing field once they're in WoW. Outside resources don't play into it -- no gold buying, etc. We take a hard line stance against it. What you get out of microtransactions is kind of the same thing and I think our player base would feel betrayed by it. I think that's something else you have to decide on up-front instead of implementing later.
Mounts, pets, even stuff like mobile AH weren't really crossing into the Micro-transaction territory. This one sure is.
I thought we paid a subscription to avoid this stuff?
I don't see how these two are incongruous vis-a-vis the "level playing field" statement.
It might not cause any disparity in terms of character power or access to gear but there is something inherently unfair about refusing access to a feature of the game to those who are unable to pay extra for it. Considering that most of us have sunk hundreds of dollars into this game over the years in box and subscription fees it's a bit irritating to be asked to pay extra for an in game feature like that.
Also, the "as long as the playing field remains level it's ok" argument doesn't sit well with me. It has a certain "separate but equal" vibe to it that rubs me the wrong way. It's a bit like saying that as long as everyone gets to the same destination it's ok to make some people sit in the back of the bus.
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Lol @ all the super paranoid people who won't use RealID.
You people are really untrustworthy of your friends.
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I don't really care if it costs money or not...as I would entertain the idea of using this IF and ONLY if it had nothing to do with Real-ID.
If you know a (friend's) character's name, class, and realm, what in the fawk do you need their "Real-ID" for???
As someone already stated, this is 100% Bobby "Facebook" Kotick still pushing the failure that is Real-ID.
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Lol @ all the super paranoid people who won't use RealID.
You people are really untrustworthy of your friends.
It isn't being paranoid about ones friends...
Its being paranoid with Blizzard transmitting your private information all over the Earth when it really serves no valid purpose to do so...
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So you'll give them all your info, and even your credit card, but won't use your name to talk to your friends cross-server/games. Sounds about right.
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So you'll give them all your info, and even your credit card, but won't use your name to talk to your friends cross-server/games. Sounds about right.
Disingenuous comparison is disingenuous. *cough*facebook*cough*
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Dums posted:
Ferrydust posted:
certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based
Rob Pardo, Blizzard senior VP posted:
We chose to go with the subscription-based model instead of that approach. We've taken the approach that we want players to feel like it's a level playing field once they're in WoW. Outside resources don't play into it -- no gold buying, etc. We take a hard line stance against it. What you get out of microtransactions is kind of the same thing and I think our player base would feel betrayed by it. I think that's something else you have to decide on up-front instead of implementing later.
Mounts, pets, even stuff like mobile AH weren't really crossing into the Micro-transaction territory. This one sure is.
I thought we paid a subscription to avoid this stuff?
and "So you'll give them all your info, and even your credit card, but won't use your name to talk to your friends cross-server/games. Sounds about right." SO true!
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So you'll give them all your info, and even your credit card, but won't use your name to talk to your friends cross-server/games. Sounds about right.
I give them my info, and CC information for business purposes between myself, and Blizzard. Many companies have my information...
My friends already know my "RL" info...and with it, they can contact me IRL and therefore also know my character names(which are completely adequate for gaming purposes)...which is all one should need to form a group.
I do not need Blizzard transmitting my info (which is only given to them for business purposes) in order to communicate with my friends.
Bottom line, it is MY information, and I decide what happens to it.
Real ID, disabled. Period.
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So you'll give them all your info, and even your credit card, but won't use your name to talk to your friends cross-server/games. Sounds about right.
That's just stupid. The reason Real ID sucks so bad isn't the fact they will know your name. It's the fact that you have to give them your email address that you use to log into WoW.
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So you'll give them all your info, and even your credit card, but won't use your name to talk to your friends cross-server/games. Sounds about right.
That's just stupid. The reason Real ID sucks so bad isn't the fact they will know your name. It's the fact that you have to give them your email address that you use to log into WoW.
So, again, you don't trust your friends. Check.
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Why would I do something that would give the trust I have in my friends a chance to fail? Just because I choose not to give out personal information doesn't mean I don't trust my friends, it means I prefer to keep my private information private.
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Why use real names, when character names are 100% sufficient for the exact same thing?
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Why use real names, when character names are 100% sufficient for the exact same thing?
I hear this. Why wasn't it a Battle.net username instead of our real name? I don't get it. it's essentially the same thing.. only with my real name people can find out info on me that i don't know they can find out about me because myself and 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of people in the world would never care to look for it.
My name here is Sarnsereg, Why can't my Name for cross server be Sarnsereg too instead of my real name?
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What I find most ironic, is that we can already ignore players from other realms to insure that we DON'T get put in a group with them, with only using character names and realm..
... but to do the opposite somehow requires a Real name, and Real-ID...
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Talehon69 posted:
So you'll give them all your info, and even your credit card, but won't use your name to talk to your friends cross-server/games. Sounds about right.
That's just stupid. The reason Real ID sucks so bad isn't the fact they will know your name. It's the fact that you have to give them your email address that you use to log into WoW.
So, again, you don't trust your friends. Check.
There are different levels of friends, there are ingame friends, work friends and personal friends. I only want personal friends to have my email address.
Its an attempt by them to make money off on my personal information. aka FaceBook.
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anyone else think that this stinks of "milking" the customer?
We already pay 15 USD or Euro / month...and they are trying to nickle and dime us on top of that?
lol, good luck.
If I am paying a monthly sub, I expect you to give me bucket loads of content and all new features....
but wait...they are failing on the content and everything else.....So, I guess that explains what we are quiting
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They said "certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based". CERTAIN elements. So I'm waiting to see what they mean before I complain.
This said, Real ID is turned off for me and will remain so. And if the changes make me unable to play the game without turning on Real ID and without being "premium", I will simply cancel my accounts.
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NONE of the elements of ANY in game party system should be premium.
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How many people have RL friends not on their server? How did this happen? I can see it where some people don't want a PvP server play style while others did. Other than that, meeting people later on in RL who also are in game would be my only guess.
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How many people have RL friends not on their server? How did this happen? I can see it where some people don't want a PvP server play style while others did. Other than that, meeting people later on in RL who also are in game would be my only guess.
I have three RL friends of mine, whom I met outside of and before WoW, who now play WoW with their significant other on whatever server they got them to play on. It is kind of nice to be able to chat cross realm, however, the privacy thing is a concern and I only give my email out to those that I personaly know and trust. Maybe it will bite me in the ass, but I really doubt it.
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They should spend less time working on 'premium' content and instead focus on keeping WoW a great game for the whole population.
They seem to have given up trying to innovate and create a great GAME. Instead they are reusing old content, skimped on the expansion with less levels, and creating 'premium' items for people to buy through their store. It seems very opportunistic of them to try to sell premium content in their fix to queue times.
My guess is the certain elements will be tied to being able to queue with people of your choosing from other realms.
Hopefully they'll backtrack like they did with RealID.
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I was against Real Id, once upon a time. Then I switched servers awhile back and came to love being able to stay in contact with my closer friends there. Being able to group with them on my main for stuff would be pretty awesome. There's no way in heck I'd pay for this feature though, and considering we all pay a monthly fee for access to in game content... I'm slightly confused and annoyed.
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They seem to have given up trying to innovate and create a great GAME.
No, that would imply that creating a great game was once their first priority. Let me assure you: making a great game was NEVER their first priority. Making money has and always will be more important.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. Also- this statement is not a condemnation of Blizzard, it is true for all companies. That's just the way it is.
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