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Well despite what Sony says about credit card information getting out or being encrypted I'm still getting a new card number since I could do without any surprises from their lost information down the road. Anyone here as paranoid?
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As far as credit cards go, no. If I did use one, it was an old one that I don't have anymore. I don't recall purchasing anything on PSN, though.. As far as personal information goes, yes. Then again, I think any info available is something anyone can obtain on the internet for $5.
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Sucks for the PSN users. Sony has had so many major screw ups over the last decade as a company, yet people still support them.
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So glad I never put in my card info. I almost bought some old PS1 games a while back too.
This is a huge blunder and if there's a class action I'm totally getting in on it.
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If you've never put any credit card information on there, or made any purchases, why do you deserve anything back from them?
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If you've never put any credit card information on there, or made any purchases, why do you deserve anything back from them?
Because they did not provide my personal data with proper security which has led to significant inconvenience and even without my credit card info out there, a name, address, phone number, and birth date is enough to start doing things that impact my credit through pre-approved BS.
I've already had to deal with harassing phone calls from a collection agency because someone chose to use my phone number on an application before. Do you know how hard it is to get those a-holes to stop calling you?
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109768-Sony-Provides-Timeline-of-Attack-Hinting-at-Anonymous-Involvement
Sony's report to Congress, they say they found a file named Anonymous with the contents stating "We are Legion".
I dunno about you guys but I'm about sick of anonymous and their crap. I hope they get caught and fried for this.
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109768-Sony-Provides-Timeline-of-Attack-Hinting-at-Anonymous-Involvement
Sony's report to Congress, they say they found a file named Anonymous with the contents stating "We are Legion".
I dunno about you guys but I'm about sick of anonymous and their crap. I hope they get caught and fried for this.
I dunno about you guys but I'm more willing to accept Anonymous at their word that they had nothing to do with this than a giant corporation facing class action lawsuits and a P.R. disaster desperate to shift the focus on to anyone instead of their own incompetence. Then again, a one-word filename with 3 words of content? Skip the trial, that's proof enough for me.
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i was called by my bank right around the time this news broke b/c someone in nj had used my cc info for a $315 purchase. got my new card and don't plan on using it with psn
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I get that Rhylith, but we are WAY too sue happy as a nation. If you come out of this with nothing happening to you at all, then I don't see why you have any right to be a part of a lawsuit against them. Especially if you're asking for monetary compensation.
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Thaag_Simmons posted:
bjorind posted:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109768-Sony-Provides-Timeline-of-Attack-Hinting-at-Anonymous-Involvement
Sony's report to Congress, they say they found a file named Anonymous with the contents stating "We are Legion".
I dunno about you guys but I'm about sick of anonymous and their crap. I hope they get caught and fried for this.
I dunno about you guys but I'm more willing to accept Anonymous at their word that they had nothing to do with this than a giant corporation facing class action lawsuits and a P.R. disaster desperate to shift the focus on to anyone instead of their own incompetence. Then again, a one-word filename with 3 words of content? Skip the trial, that's proof enough for me.
What has Anonymous done to deserve your trust? They've attacked the PSN before. As far as I'm concerned Sony prolly could've done more to prevent the attack, but no one is safe from such things on the internet. I'm more inclined to blame the hackers for what they did than the company.
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I get that Rhylith, but we are WAY too sue happy as a nation. If you come out of this with nothing happening to you at all, then I don't see why you have any right to be a part of a lawsuit against them. Especially if you're asking for monetary compensation.
I would never have spent 400 bucks on a ps3 had I known that the free online play, one of their main selling points, would put my personal data at risk.
Oh and the problem spread to SOE too so if you ever played one of their mmos your data is out there too. Everquest/eq2, swg, vanguard, free realms, dc universe, etc.
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What has Anonymous done to deserve your trust? They've attacked the PSN before.
Loudly and happily publicized many previous attacks, instead of denying them? Not performed any "we did it for the money" attacks?
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As far as I'm concerned Sony prolly could've done more to prevent the attack, but no one is safe from such things on the internet. I'm more inclined to blame any hackers for what they did than the company.
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"I would never have spent 400 bucks on a ps3 had I known that the free online play, one of their main selling points, would put my personal data at risk."
I don't think this was part of their plan. No matter how secure your network is, it's always at risk and we all know that. Again, the lawsuit should be against the hacker. We don't come down hard enough on people who do these types of things.
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It was pretty easy to cancel my card. In fact, I didn't even have to wait for the new one to be mailed; they print the new one right in the bank in just a couple of minutes. As far as the other info, well, doesn't seem like anything they couldn't get from a piece of mail or somewhere else less secure on the intrawebs, so I'm really not fussed. Plus now they've alerted the major card companies who have started observations. It seems like the people making a giant fuss about it are under their parents roof, can't play their CoD, and don't really understand that the real life implications are not that big. Maybe I'm wrong, though. Maybe someone here can tell me how I can get my ID stolen in this situation and not be able to claim fraud or defend myself somehow. /shrug
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I didn't even have to wait for the new one to be mailed; they print the new one right in the bank in just a couple of minutes.
wtf i want that from my bank :<
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Milkand posted:
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I didn't even have to wait for the new one to be mailed; they print the new one right in the bank in just a couple of minutes.
wtf i want that from my bank :<
same here, have to wait for them to mail me one.
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"I would never have spent 400 bucks on a ps3 had I known that the free online play, one of their main selling points, would put my personal data at risk."
I don't think this was part of their plan. No matter how secure your network is, it's always at risk and we all know that. Again, the lawsuit should be against the hacker. We don't come down hard enough on people who do these types of things.
Sony's CEO came forward saying they'll provide everyone with a year of ID theft protection and a month of that premium PSN service so I'm satisfied now. Really that's what the class action should be about is making Sony pay for ID theft protection if they weren't willing to do it themselves.
I just don't wanna see them be able to push this entirely on the hackers. Keeping the personal data unencrypted is pretty stupid of them, and the network improvements should have come when Anonymous did their first DDOS attack.
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Sony's CEO came forward saying they'll provide everyone with a year of ID theft protection and a month of that premium PSN service so I'm satisfied now. . .
link for info/what action is required to take advantage of this?
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Umlap posted:
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Sony's CEO came forward saying they'll provide everyone with a year of ID theft protection and a month of that premium PSN service so I'm satisfied now. . .
link for info/what action is required to take advantage of this?
No details yet on how to obtain the service but it's an open letter that's all over the internet, shouldn't be hard to find.
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Sony's CEO came forward saying they'll provide everyone with a year of ID theft protection and a month of that premium PSN service so I'm satisfied now. . .
link for info/what action is required to take advantage of this?
PM me your PSN login info, address, and CC info and I'll handle everything.
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Thaag_Simmons posted:
Umlap posted:
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Sony's CEO came forward saying they'll provide everyone with a year of ID theft protection and a month of that premium PSN service so I'm satisfied now. . .
link for info/what action is required to take advantage of this?
PM me your PSN login info, address, and CC info and I'll handle everything.
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They need to get this shipoopy in line. I've been dying to download the new WWE game!
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The most recent update: keep waiting.
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would be nice if I didn't have to log in to PSN to watch Netflix.. wtf @ that.
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This is good use of the movie Hackers to explain everything that's happened:
http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/219210/explaining-the-sony-psn-anonymous-debacle-by-using-the-movie-hackers/
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would be nice if I didn't have to log in to PSN to watch Netflix.. wtf @ that.
friend of mine said it wasn't necessary. (Haven't tested myself, but he said he's been watching netflix w/ his ps3 the last few days).
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would be nice if I didn't have to log in to PSN to watch Netflix.. wtf @ that.
friend of mine said it wasn't necessary. (Haven't tested myself, but he said he's been watching netflix w/ his ps3 the last few days).
Apparently a lot of it has to do with what client version of Netflix you have on your PS3.. I literally cannot watch Netflix without being able to sign in to PSN.. it keeps prompting me to sign in..sign in fails and Netflix pops up with a message saying I need to be logged into PSN. So yeah, some people are lucky enough to have this not affect them and others are not.
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that's lame :/
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would be nice if I didn't have to log in to PSN to watch Netflix.. wtf @ that.
friend of mine said it wasn't necessary. (Haven't tested myself, but he said he's been watching netflix w/ his ps3 the last few days).
Apparently a lot of it has to do with what client version of Netflix you have on your PS3.. I literally cannot watch Netflix without being able to sign in to PSN.. it keeps prompting me to sign in..sign in fails and Netflix pops up with a message saying I need to be logged into PSN. So yeah, some people are lucky enough to have this not affect them and others are not.
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ugh that sucks... is it a newer or older version that lets you use netflix w/o psn?
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I'm going to guess it's an old version. A few weeks before the Sony network went down I got a message that I couldn't start up Netflix without being logged in so it was probably an update I installed for a game that put it into place. I haven't tried using Netflix since the outage but I'd guess mine wouldn't work.
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makes sense, but dumb.
also, new card on the way to me now, thanks to the $300 worth of attempted charges at the end of last week.
word is PSN is back up now. I'm out of town so can't try myself - any luck from you guys?
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I know some of their mmo games came up over the weekend, didn't try PSN.
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Yeah PSN is up. I was on it all day yesterday
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