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I've finished the Long, Strange Journey achievment on 4 toons, I have 4 left to go that only need this one last world event achievment - Children's Week. Started tonight right after it was up, and now I remember how much I hate Blizzard everytime I have to do some stupid forced BG activities for these. Anyone else still working on completing this, and dreading the BG part of this?
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When I hate something.. I dont do it.. I am crazy like that though! 
haha.. j/k
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a purple proto drake and free 310% flight speed just doesn't seem worth that much effort
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Unless you hate Blizzard.. then its totally worth it!!! 
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The free riding skill is nice, but the biggie is I put so much into the achievment already it seems a total waste of that time to not finish it when I'm so close. We'll see how many of them I do...
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I was in the same boat for Easter. I had 3 toons that only needed Easter to be done with it. Took all the intestinal fortitude I could muster to get it done, then I logged off and drove toothpicks under my fingernails to distract myself from utter pain of collecting a some 700+ eggs. Damn RNG on those dumb dresses...
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After this, if I even finish these, I am done with this game. At least for a long while, if not permanently. After taking a couple of months off for Rift, I am just saddened to see the state it is in when I do log in to play. Buggy as hell, they can't seem to do anything except think of ever more ways to F@#$ up the skills/talents every week. I can't even begin to keep up anymore, with all the changes they feel the need to make on a constant basis. Everything they touch turns to crap. I got magically "teleported" to other parts of the city or zone 3 times today (just standing there, then all of a sudden in a loading screen, and I show up somewhere else).
Add to that the complete frustration of trying to assault a tower in AV, which I remember very well from last year on my other 4 toons. I end up hating my fellow man, loathing Blizzard more with every minute I spend trying to complete these forced BG activities for their world events. The capture the flag and return a flag etc. are not as bad, but AV is just a riduculous one to put in as a required thing for a world event meta. But that's more of Blizzard, they think they have a PvP game (joke's still on them) and insist that everyone feel that way, or no cookie for you!
YEs, I realize I am venting... and nobody cares (especially Blizzard who of course doesn't read these anyway). Tell me to QQ I really don't care. Callme a nub, call me whatever you want. I'm sure I am not the only one who is frustrated beyond words with the stat this game is in, and this "holiday" crap is just the nail in the coffin. This game is dead, and there may be 12 million people living in denail still playing it.. but it is dead, Blizzard knows and has moved anyone worth paying more than minimum wage, off to other things.
I'm finding a lot of things refreshing about Rift, but the biggest one is the attitude of Trion... a company that cares and tries to connect with their customers and listens to them, doesn't just piss them off and laugh that they got mad. Blizzard used to be one of the top names in games, but for me, they jumped the shark 4 years ago. Rift may be a clone, but it does all the right things well, and most of the @$@$ that Blizzrd does wrong, Trion does right too.
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Ya, you definitely wouldn't catch me doing that. Ugh. I did all the holiday achievements on my main and I'll never do them again.
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Peoples quitting rituals are amusing, while you want to finish achievements before you quit even though you don't seem to enjoy them any longer, I for some dumb reason wanted to accumulate 40,000 gold, not a large sum but more then I had ever before. Of course your achievements and my gold are of not use after you hit the unsubscribe button.
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After spending hundreds of hours playing a toon, it is natural that people have certain things they want to "complete" and bring closure to their play activity before finally unsubscribing.
Playing an MMO is all about the "story of your character" so it seems natural you want to leave its story "finished", or at least at a place where there can be a sequel, but there doesn't necessarily have to 
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Yep, true enough, and I freely admit I am having a Sybil like experience in my head, oscillating between "don't care!" and "but...but... all that work! and I might be back, and what a shame to have not got this done if I do".
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So far, I'm zero for about 50 attempts on this. Haven't given up yet, there is all day tomorrow. But looking iffy for finishing all 4. Not looking that great for finishing 1 toon even. AV is just ridiculous trying to assault a tower...
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Yah, if you are not a pally or a dk with the mount speed increase, it boils down to being in the right place at the right time.
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One down, three to go. One toon just needs WG return the flag... which is proving interesting, seems to be nothing but well organized and incredibly geared pre-made horde groups, getting rolled all over the lawn. But at least I only need AV on 2 more toons...
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Nice 
Hang in there
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After this, if I even finish these, I am done with this game. At least for a long while, if not permanently. After taking a couple of months off for Rift, I am just saddened to see the state it is in when I do log in to play. Buggy as hell, they can't seem to do anything except think of ever more ways to F@#$ up the skills/talents every week. I can't even begin to keep up anymore, with all the changes they feel the need to make on a constant basis. Everything they touch turns to crap. I got magically "teleported" to other parts of the city or zone 3 times today (just standing there, then all of a sudden in a loading screen, and I show up somewhere else).
Add to that the complete frustration of trying to assault a tower in AV, which I remember very well from last year on my other 4 toons. I end up hating my fellow man, loathing Blizzard more with every minute I spend trying to complete these forced BG activities for their world events. The capture the flag and return a flag etc. are not as bad, but AV is just a riduculous one to put in as a required thing for a world event meta. But that's more of Blizzard, they think they have a PvP game (joke's still on them) and insist that everyone feel that way, or no cookie for you!
YEs, I realize I am venting... and nobody cares (especially Blizzard who of course doesn't read these anyway). Tell me to QQ I really don't care. Callme a nub, call me whatever you want. I'm sure I am not the only one who is frustrated beyond words with the stat this game is in, and this "holiday" crap is just the nail in the coffin. This game is dead, and there may be 12 million people living in denail still playing it.. but it is dead, Blizzard knows and has moved anyone worth paying more than minimum wage, off to other things.
I'm finding a lot of things refreshing about Rift, but the biggest one is the attitude of Trion... a company that cares and tries to connect with their customers and listens to them, doesn't just piss them off and laugh that they got mad. Blizzard used to be one of the top names in games, but for me, they jumped the shark 4 years ago. Rift may be a clone, but it does all the right things well, and most of the @$@$ that Blizzrd does wrong, Trion does right too.
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Barking_Spider posted:
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Nub
LOL you quoted my entire wall of text just for a one word reply?
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I gotta say, people like Thqr from Frostmourne, in the WG BG I was just in, are the exact reason this game has gone to hell, community wise. There were 5 of us who said we needed to return a flag. HE "needed to return 7". ...um.. huh? Oh, For his "return 50" achievment. He did nothing but stick close to the flag and grab it before anyone else could, and laugh at people getting upset. Explaining that we had ONE day left and he could do that other days meant nothing. He just told everyone to click faster. And that he was doing nothing wrong. Yep, he was right. I need to click faster, not try to actually do any of the fighting, just hover around and click super fast. And he was well within the rules of the game to take as many as he could. But every damn F@#$@!#$ year it's the same thing, people doing whatever they can to prevent others, or at the least, not willing to do any small thing to help others, that shows me how the MMO community of today will never, ever be what it once was. The world is mostly full of selfish asses who would sell their mother for their next 6-pack. Probably tomorrow, on Mother's day even.
Remember when MMO meant a massive amount of other people all having fun together, playing a game they all like? Being social, helping each other, actually communicating when they got into a group? Sadly, though most of you do (most of us go back to the AC or EQ days), the majority of MMO players nowadays don't. They are the twitch gen who don't give a rats ass about anyone else. Makes me sad.
Yep, I'm a bit frustrated today 
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TepavCom posted:
Remember when MMO meant a massive amount of other people all having fun together, playing a game they all like? Being social, helping each other, actually communicating when they got into a group? Sadly, though most of you do (most of us go back to the AC or EQ days), the majority of MMO players nowadays don't. They are the twitch gen who don't give a rats ass about anyone else. Makes me sad.
You need to go to the mmorpgs that aren't chasing the mass market but rather the niche ones. Games like WoW are not for gamers anymore.
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Broken_Kayfabe posted:
You need to go to the mmorpgs that aren't chasing the mass market but rather the niche ones. Games like WoW are not for gamers anymore.
True, very true.
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Tep,
Why did you stay?
As soon as 5 people stated they needed one cap, and a 6th stated he needed "7"...you know, DC your modem or something, eat the timer if you have to, and move on, as there are only 3 flags to cap in any WSG..
On a side note: What makes you going for your achievement any different than "this other guy" going for his?
Before you answer, "Because you can only do yours for x amount of time"..think about how much "time" it would take you to get 50 captures, when one has you pulling your hair out..He very well could have been working on this for months, and he is supposed to step aside, just because it is children's week?
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Tep,
Why did you stay?
As soon as 5 people stated they needed one cap, and a 6th stated he needed "7"...you know, DC your modem or something, eat the timer if you have to, and move on, as there are only 3 flags to cap in any WSG..
No the achievment is to return a flag taken... that can be done as many times in a match as people keep takin the flag and don't get a capture, as long as the match continues. I stayed because I kept trying, I don't like quitting. I also stayed in the next match, even after I got my return on that toon, because I don't want to be "that ass" that bails after he got what he came for. I stayed to help my side win, even though I don't care about the win or the points for me. It seemed the decent thing to do.
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On a side note: What makes you going for your achievement any different than "this other guy" going for his?
Before you answer, "Because you can only do yours for x amount of time"..think about how much "time" it would take you to get 50 captures, when one has you pulling your hair out..He very well could have been working on this for months, and he is supposed to step aside, just because it is children's week?
As I said, he was within his "rights" but was being a dick. The nice thing would have been to take one and let everyone have one. Especially since this was the last day any of the rest of us could do it. I've been working on this for 2 years so the fact he was working on it for months.. is irrelevant. He had just as much right to be selfish and take whatever he could, as anyone. But that doesn't make it nice. And his attitude was the "screw you" type, that's what I have the biggest problem with.
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1. If his time spent is irrelevant, so is your 2 years.
2. I have never, EVER NOT clicked our flag that needed returning, nor would I wait for "someone" else to, in a BG. As soon as you start doing this, the enemy druid sneaks up, grabs it, and hauls ass with it.
3. You didn't like this guys attitude, about as much as he didn't like his normal PVP routine being invaded by a bunch of PVE "noobs" looking for a "cap" during childrens week.
4. Your argument is very one sided. You talk about what is "fair", and what is "nice", but only from your perspective. Were you "nice" enough to gear your character out in PVP gear before heading into these BG's for children's week? Did you buy and use speed potions? Health potions? Did you offer to help this person get his 7 out of the way, if he would help you get yours?
I understand your frustration, but only to a point. How far is the world supposed to bend so that YOU can get YOUR achievement?
You say you didn't like his attitude, and I would agree with you..
But I will also say that I don't like the attitude that just because it is children's week, you expect the world to stop so that "you can get yours".
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i still don't understand how people can want to do that sort of stuff. i'd rather go mow my lawn and run 10 miles in the snow than do childrens week on 2 characters!
i can't even do the same level grind on 2 different characters unless its been months since i did the first one. same content makes me sad.
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I don't know what Blizzard was smoking/drinking/snorting when they came up with this kind of crap. Putting PVP requirements on a PVE World Event just serves to piss both camps off. The PVErs resent being forced to venture into the dark and dangerous world of PVP and the PVPers resent having the sissy carebears invading their sacred turf.
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I'm finding a lot of things refreshing about Rift, but the biggest one is the attitude of Trion... a company that cares and tries to connect with their customers and listens to them, doesn't just piss them off and laugh that they got mad. Blizzard used to be one of the top names in games, but for me, they jumped the shark 4 years ago. Rift may be a clone, but it does all the right things well, and most of the @$@$ that Blizzrd does wrong, Trion does right too.
I don't want to discourage you about Rift endgame... so I'll stay quiet.
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I wouldn't say that Blizzard jumped the shark. SC2 is great, and there's plenty of good in Cataclysm. Their problem is that about a year ago they began to believe their own hype, and have become extremely sensitive to criticism (and oddly combative, because you'd think they would have grown a thicker shell by now). It just feels like no one working on WoW enjoys what they do anymore and it comes through when they communicate to fans or even the press.
I'd also say it shows with how uninspired a lot of their recent efforts have been. They like to cite how, overall, they've recycled very little content. They never mention that most of the "new" stuff they have delivered the past year-or-so is almost all recycled. So yea, five years of mostly new stuff, then a year of old stuff with tweaks. I'd say the passion is gone.
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1. If his time spent is irrelevant, so is your 2 years.
I never said his time spent was irrelevant, I said it was irrelevant whether he had taken months on it, as I had taken years on mine. The point was, it's not about who took a lot of time (or mine would win, but the point was it was irrelevant. The point was one of us was limited to exactly 1 week each year by Blizzrd. So the other might want to be a *bit* accomodating on this last day. Or at least just keep quiet about it and don't rub people's nose in it.
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4. Your argument is very one sided. You talk about what is "fair", and what is "nice", but only from your perspective. Were you "nice" enough to gear your character out in PVP gear before heading into these BG's for children's week? Did you buy and use speed potions? Health potions? Did you offer to help this person get his 7 out of the way, if he would help you get yours?
Yes in fact, I did. I made myself a set of PvP gear, at least the starter 85 gear, and bought a few other pieces. I have an alchemist too, so yep, came with full set of potions. No, I didn't offer to help him get his 7 as that would be very dumb of me to assume there would be any left for me before the BG was over. I thought having everyone get a turn at one was fair enough. IF you come to an event and say you think you deserve to have the first 10 pieces of cake, and there may not even be any more than that for others, I think most right minded people would be OK with me saying "um, no that is selfish". No offense, but think about it - that was a dumb suggestion.
Look, most decent people recognize fair and nice, and they recognize someone who is being a selfish jackass. I do get that you are trying to play devil's advocate here and defend his attitude. All I can tell you is, I didn't even get into it with him when he started snatching every flag he could. At that point, he was just choosing to be competitive about it, and though I would wish for him to be nice about it, was not about to act like it was expected. It wasn't until he started throwing it in our faces with his comments like "click faster" or "get a better PC with less lag" and then laughing when people were getting upset with him. At that point he went from being someone who didn't care to help others, to someone who was being a jerk on purpose.
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I understand your frustration, but only to a point. How far is the world supposed to bend so that YOU can get YOUR achievement?
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But I will also say that I don't like the attitude that just because it is children's week, you expect the world to stop so that "you can get yours".
I expect people to be nice to each other, nothing more. Comments like "you expect the world to stop..." shows me you don't really understand the points I'm making. No biggie, dead thread, enough said.
Anyway, I fully realize there are multiple valid viewpoints to this. The fact that Blizzard seems to think everyone MUST love PvP like they do, so they keep fidning ways to try and force it on others, is a big par of why I unsubscribed last night. Setting the players up to be jackasses to each other, well, there is enough of that in the world, I don't need to seek it out, much less a sandbox which caters to the attitude.
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I don't want to discourage you about Rift endgame... so I'll stay quiet.
I'm taking my own sweet time, so may not get to endgame soon anyway. But I'm judging them on how well they communicated with us during closed and then open beta, how they communicated after their first failed world event, and the fact that they seem to have taken mostly the "good" from WoW, added the good from other MMOs, and have a really solid (but not perfect) game. Most importantly they don't seem to think they are above the players, and they are so far trying hard to have good community and good communications.
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The fact that Blizzard seems to think everyone MUST love PvP like they do, so they keep fidning ways to try and force it on others, is a big par of why I unsubscribed last night.
I could say the exact same thing about guilds, raiding, and PVE in general
And also, I really do understand you wanting to finish that quest..it just seems like you ran into one guy, who would not bend to the situation, and you have focused all of your frustration and anger on him when in reality it is just a frustrating quest any way you slice it.
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I don't know what Blizzard was smoking/drinking/snorting when they came up with this kind of crap. Putting PVP requirements on a PVE World Event just serves to piss both camps off. The PVErs resent being forced to venture into the dark and dangerous world of PVP and the PVPers resent having the sissy carebears invading their sacred turf.
I think it was one way they could be absolutely sure that a player had to suffer through several things that they did not like in order to complete this hair-brained quest.
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That's probably true. I understand, to a point, wanting to make it difficult for players or making them "suffer through several things that they did not like in order to complete this hair-brained quest." But what I don't understand or agree with is forcing others who don't even WANT the achievement to suffer with the person trying to get the achievement. I like achievement farming as much as the next guy but stuff like this, I refuse to do. Make the achievement as long, difficult, or pain filled as you want. As long as I can do it on my own time without affecting/interfering with other people playing the game.
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And also, I really do understand you wanting to finish that quest..it just seems like you ran into one guy, who would not bend to the situation, and you have focused all of your frustration and anger on him when in reality it is just a frustrating quest any way you slice it.
Oh, this guy was just the latest example, fresh off the battlefield. Sadly, not at all a unique experience. And believe me, I do totally understand that the normal PvP players probably hate the "achievment whores" being in there. But be mad at Blizzard, don't take it out on your fellow gamer. The fact that so many do, is what I mean about the community being noting like the good old days.
Oh well, done is done. I left 2 toons with 2 BG tasks short of thie Strange, Long Journey achievment. But I did end up with 6 toons total who have it. For that, I should probably be committed.
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