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I haven't felt the desire to log in for 2 weeks. I hoped Cata would entertain me for longer, but I just don't have the time for it any more. I am hoping I can get some more ideas here. I am starting to feel the itch to play Rift, although DC Universe was another one that sounded fun. (In concept)
- I can usually only play for an hour or two at a time.
- Raids suck, I cannot hold to scheduled play times.
- PvP that is much worse than WoW would be a deal breaker.
- I hate the science fiction/space genre. And will never play another Star Wars game after that steaming pile called Galaxies.
- I much prefer games that are solo friendly due to limited and erratic play times.
- Anything with a loot system similar to Asheron's Call might be enough in itself to get me there. (But I don't think there are any of those out there.)
I am almost ready to start a mage/warlock/chloromancer in Rift. (I think I can do that combo) But I haven't heard anything really about DC Universe or anything else out there now. I also heard Shadowbane was coming back, but click to move was terrible. So... any ideas?
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Have you read much about what people are saying about Rift, because it seems like a few of your bullet points match up nicely with what people have been praising about Rift. I recommend giving it a try, but I'm really enjoying what Rift has to offer myself. It's not Sci-fi, the PvP is enjoyable, and it's easy to solo or jump in and out of groups - also the flexibility in the soul system gives players a lot of room to build what they want to play (imo). It's easy enough to jump in and out of game - I've had my playtime broken up into tinier blocks lately, but it's been a snap to jump in game, get a few quests done, close a couple rifts, or stop an invasion, afk a bit, and then jump back in.
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Don't waste your money on Rift - it's more of the same crap.
Wait a few months.
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The_Korrigan posted:
Don't waste your money on Rift - it's more of the same crap.
Wait a few months.
Is there something coming out in the next few months? That's my problem, I guess. I have not heard of anything coming out in the near future that even sounds good. I was waiting for DCUO, but haven't heard much about it.
I saw Champions Online went F2P, but I think it is just because it is a less robust version of DCUO and COH. The only reason I have been itching to try Rift is just what was stated above, it seems like it would fit. I just don't know what the endgame is like. The WoW endgame is frustrating because I can never do raids. It isn't that big of a deal, because I tend to prefer PvP anyway. But it still annoys me when the whole point in WoW (arguably) is to gear up for/in raids. The problem is raids are longer events than I have time for and generally require a commitment a week in advance.
The only other game I thought sounded interesting is GW2, but haven't read anything at all about that one yet....
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Check out some free to play stuff before you drop money on Rift. Have you played LOTRO and EQ2? Even Allods - and I know it's the whipping boy of the internets - is worth a look (note: suggestions based on the assumption that you want something similar to WoW but new to you, since you're considering Rift).
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st0rmie posted:
Check out some free to play stuff before you drop money on Rift. Have you played LOTRO and EQ2? Even Allods - and I know it's the whipping boy of the internets - is worth a look (note: suggestions based on the assumption that you want something similar to WoW but new to you, since you're considering Rift).
I did play LotRO a while back, but I hated it pretty quickly. I am positive I don't have time for EQ2 though, I have heard it is really not worth it unless you plan on investing a lot of time in it. I have never even heard of Allods though.
Not looking for anything similar to WoW per se, just something fun. Rift just seems to be the biggest and most well received recently.
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Aye, Stormie has good advice here - LOTRO is an excellent a cheap suggestion. You can register and play for free until level 20+. Give it a try, roll a few different classes and races.
Now if you want to try Rift, go for it - I'm culprit of it myself - but don't tell us we didn't warn you 
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I am in much the same position as you are Siujoey, and if it wasn't for the fact that I do not want to lug around two laptops when I travel I would be playing Rift. But since my work laptop is this craptastic Acer, I am stuck playing either WoW or sudoku puzzles (both at the lowest graphics setting) until I find myself home.
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NukeMage posted:
I am in much the same position as you are Siujoey, and if it wasn't for the fact that I do not want to lug around two laptops when I travel I would be playing Rift. But since my work laptop is this craptastic Acer, I am stuck playing either WoW or sudoku puzzles (both at the lowest graphics setting) until I find myself home.
Hilarious. I currently DO lug around 2 laptops when I travel. Only difference is my work laptop is at least a Dell. :-)
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siujoey posted:
I have never even heard of Allods though.
It's at http://allods.gpotato.com/
Free-to-play, pretty standard race/class/level/two-faction fantasy MMO, not a million miles away from WoW. When I checked out Rift, I actually thought its setting reminded me of Allods, with the two factions being a sort of high fantasy faction, and a more magi-tech sort of group.
It was extremely well-received during beta - again, the enthusiasm around Rift reminds me a lot of the enthusiasm around Allods. But when it launched properly, the pricing of certain cash shop items caused an enormous backlash. I'm stretching my memory a little here but it was something around an extremely expensive item to mitigate death penalties, which seemed to make endgame PvP or raiding difficult or impossible unless you spent a lot of money.
Anyway, the public support in the forums and blogs evaporated, and to be honest, I've hardly heard of the game since. But it was certainly slick, and I'm sure it's even slicker now with some development behind it. Probably worth a look, since it's free, if you're in the mood to try out a game or two and see if they entertain.
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I say give RIFT a shot. Its familiar enough to to jump right in, but different enough to keep you entertained for some time I think. :)
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Nakal posted:
I say give RIFT a shot. Its familiar enough to to jump right in, but different enough to keep you entertained for some time I think. :)
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You just gotta try Rift for yourself I know I'm glad I didn't listen to all the people who said its just a WoW clone I'm having a blast now in rift while they're waiting to play more of the "revamped" blizzard content.
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Nakal posted:
I say give RIFT a shot. Its familiar enough to to jump right in, but different enough to keep you entertained for some time I think. :)
Negative. I did not think it was "different enough".
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Nakal posted:
I say give RIFT a shot. Its familiar enough to to jump right in, but different enough to keep you entertained for some time I think. :)
Agreed 100%.
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portablehospital posted:
Nakal posted:
I say give RIFT a shot. Its familiar enough to to jump right in, but different enough to keep you entertained for some time I think. 
jojo263 posted:
You just gotta try Rift for yourself I know I'm glad I didn't listen to all the people who said its just a WoW clone I'm having a blast now in rift while they're waiting to play more of the "revamped" blizzard content.
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I would add that, if you look at who's saying what about Rift, you might notice it's the more hardcore raider types who are the ones saying Rift is just a WoW clone. The people who have had more of a PvP slant/background on the VNs, it seems to me anyway, are the ones who are more saying Rift is a blast. So your enjoyment of Rift could somewhat depend on what you find fun in MMOs to begin with.
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As lame as it might sound go to Wikipedia and look for a list of MMOs. Then choose one that looks or feels right. Generally the Wikipedia site will have a link to the games actual website.
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siujoey posted:
NukeMage posted:
I am in much the same position as you are Siujoey, and if it wasn't for the fact that I do not want to lug around two laptops when I travel I would be playing Rift. But since my work laptop is this craptastic Acer, I am stuck playing either WoW or sudoku puzzles (both at the lowest graphics setting) until I find myself home.
Hilarious. I currently DO lug around 2 laptops when I travel. Only difference is my work laptop is at least a Dell. :-)
If i chuck this one into a puddle, I will end up with a Dell but it will be only slightly better  I am almost willing to volunteer my personal one for work useage (and the subsequent monitoring . . . ).
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Azure-TheBlueOne posted:
I would add that, if you look at who's saying what about Rift, you might notice it's the more hardcore raider types who are the ones saying Rift is just a WoW clone. The people who have had more of a PvP slant/background on the VNs, it seems to me anyway, are the ones who are more saying Rift is a blast. So your enjoyment of Rift could somewhat depend on what you find fun in MMOs to begin with.
I'd have to disagree with your generalization. As a PvP-centric player, I am not at all enthusiastic about Rift. It's absolutely a WoW clone...I see no difference between Rift and a vanilla WoW PvP server. The devs have put about the same amount of thought and effort into PvP as Blizzard did (not much, in other words), while they're putting a ton of effort into PvE instances and planning for raiding systems.
World PvP is exactly as it is on a WoW PvP server -- if you look for it, you can find it. But the game obviously wasn't built with world PvP in mind. There are no systems in place to actively support it. There has been very little communication from the devs about PvP plans, but they've certainly put a lot of effort into their PvE dungeons and talking about PvE plans.
If you were a PvE player who was tired of WoW itself but liked the WoW style of gameplay, Rift would be great.
If you were a gamer whose only experience of PvP was 'honor grinding' in instanced battlegrounds in WoW and IF you actually liked that, Rift would work out for you.
But I'd never recommend Rift to a player looking for a good PvP game.
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The only good PvP games are FPS games.
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Isoke posted:
If you were a PvE player who was tired of WoW itself but liked the WoW style of gameplay, Rift would be great.
If you were a gamer whose only experience of PvP was 'honor grinding' in instanced battlegrounds in WoW and IF you actually liked that, Rift would work out for you.
But I'd never recommend Rift to a player looking for an exact DAoC copy.
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It may be tough to comprehend this, Demorak, but DAOC in and of itself is not the only approach to good PvP.
However, if you think that Rift's current PvP implementation is worth recommending, I really don't know what to say. It's no different than what WoW threw out there as an afterthought to a PvE-centered, raid-centered game. It sure as heck won't provide anything remotely resembling a strong PvP endgame.
But if Rift is your idea of a great PvP environment, then by all means, have a blast.
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Rifts PvE = wow clone + it stole warhammer onlines public quest system.
Rifts PvP = Mindless/Boring/Fail
If you haven't played WoW, I think you will enjoy Rift,If you have played WoW and enjoy Rift, you seriously need to get out more,It's a clone.
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Rifts PvE = wow clone + it stole warhammer onlines public quest system.
Rifts PvP = Mindless/Boring/Fail
If you haven't played WoW, I think you will enjoy Rift,If you have played WoW and enjoy Rift, you seriously need to get out more,It's a clone.
maybe people who enjoyed WoW but were looking for something new that was like WoW enjoy Rift. I like both games and I'm having a blast in Rift so far yes I closed my WoW accounts but I didn't close them because I dislike WoW.
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kuide posted:
If you haven't played WoW, I think you will enjoy Rift,If you have played WoW and enjoy Rift, you seriously need to get out more,It's a clone.
One wonders if he really took the time to think about this before writing it 
His point is that Rift is as enjoyable as WoW but that you can't enjoy Rift as much as WoW 
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Unless your umemployed give Rift a shot otherwise try one of those they mentioned that a free.
Sure Rift is a bit cloney but it is definitely worth the money even if you just play it several months.
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Aye, Stormie has good advice here - LOTRO is an excellent a cheap suggestion. You can register and play for free until level 20+. Give it a try, roll a few different classes and races.
Now if you want to try Rift, go for it - I'm culprit of it myself - but don't tell us we didn't warn you
2 times in a post I can agree with, Korrigan... wow. Sadly WoW is the best fantasy genre MMO out there. You can try out others but you may not get the mileage you did from WoW.
Rift has a lot of the same, some different, different skins.
LOTRO has a lot of the same, some different, different skins.
All fantasy crap!
My best advice would be to take off a month or two 2 and come back fresh to WoW. I just took off 1.5 months and I actually want to login again.
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Yeah, Rift was far too similar. I have played LotRO before, but I hated it pretty quickly.
I wanted to play and like DCUO, but I have not heard good things. I decided I am going to mess around with Champions Online for a bit since it is free and I only have about 4 hours per week to play lately, with my work schedule.
When work lets up a bit, I will probably log back in to WoW and see if I am any more interested. In the mean time, it's kind of fun to learn a new game again. It isn't great, but it is certainly entertaining enough to justify the F2P cost! :-)
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APB(All Points Bulletin) should be back up and running soon. The new guys that took over it are doing beta testing now.
That's if you like shooters. It's sort of an MMO shooter. Not something you'd want to spend countless hours on like WoW, but still pretty cool
Will be good if they new company handling it fix the problems it had. It will be F2P too, but like most F2P games you can still get premium(paid) accounts and such. I don't know much about how that works but can't wait to play it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNGuR8SO9xk
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Aas I said above- I decided to mess around with Champions Online for a while until something new comes out that interests me or I get the itch to login to WoW again.
Here are my initial impressions in case anyone is interested:
Pros:
- I have always liked the idea of the superhero genre. It is infinitely more fun for me to play a superhero than a gnome, night elf, etc.
- Customization. The superhero genre really needs this.
- Story line. I have never cared about WoW's lore. In fact, I made it a point to avoid the lore when possible. In CO, I actually find it entertaining, probably because I am a superhero instead of a gnome frost mage or worgen druid.
- Questing. I think this is probably the same as the last bullet point, but I hate questing in WoW. I HATE it. I level through BGs and dungeons. I quest when forced to. This is not the case with CO. Maybe it is because I don't have the advantage of a QH type addon or Wowhead, but it seems more engaging and enjoyable. (For now at least)
- Community. So far, the community seems helpful, knowledgeable, and accepting. There are idiots of course, but it is night and day. It is also nice that there is one single server shard for all players.
- Pick up and play. It is nice that I can pick it up and play, then quit at any time. Instances, from what I have read, scale. I can make the encounters harder or easier with a slider. They can be attempted with groups of 1-5, scaling with your group as well. Pretty cool.
- Combat. I haven't decided if I like the mechanics because I like them or because they are different. Either way, it feels faster and more responsive. It also feels MUCH simpler, but that may be because my hero is so young. I am hoping it gets more complicated.
- Not gear-centric. Again, maybe because I am so low level, but gear seems almost insignificant.
- Roles. Don't fully understand this yet, but it seems my choice (Grimoire) can heal, tank, or dps depending on what "role" I select.
- PvP scales up to a level. (11-20 bracket scales up to 20) This makes your character as powerful as a level 20 without the additional abilities you will learn between your current level and 20. I love how that works- enough to contend, but still a reason to wait until the higher end of the bracket.
Cons:
- F2P. I just get worried about enjoying F2P games for obvious reasons. Content will likely be slower and less in depth. We'll see.
- F2P accounts MUST start with a predetermined archetype. Not a big deal, probably should do so anyway while learning.
- Crafting. Admittedly, I don't really understand the full extent of the crafting system. Currently it feels clunky and overly complicated, with lackluster rewards.
- Content. Obviously there is not as much content as WoW, but MUCH more than I expected.
- Polish. I think that goes without saying that WoW is about as good as it gets. I've been spoiled.
- Have to purchase bag slots beyond the single one you start with. Annoying.
Overall, I have been happy with CO. It's free for the client and free for the silver level account which is more than enough. I knew I would stick around for a bit when I had a mission that required me to help stop "Foxbat" from taking over the TV News station. Inside, I had to rescue obvious "Anchorman" references containing the following:
Rock Landman-
I can tell you one thing, I love lamps, but I sure don’t love this. If I had my trident, this situation would be completely under control.
Ryan Santana
I've tried everything to help Rob, even using my special cologne that is made with real bits of Panther to get rid of these guys, and nothing is working! The bottle said it works 60% of the time, every time... I guess they were totally wrong this time.
Rob Mahogany
Get me out of here so I can get to my Jazz flute practice!
That's just good stuff. It's free, it's entertaining, and for right now- it is perfect for what I was looking for.
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And you don't understand that? It doesn't matter which you play, they are the same.So if you have played wow ,why would you play rift?
The people from wow that did, will you still be there in 6 months? that will depend on the new content(probably raids).
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How is AOC doing nowadays? It really was a super fun game (imo) but I quit because of class balancing.
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