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Subject: Cataclysm killed it for me.
Yup I called it quits 3 weeks after release of Cataclysm.

They ruined the classes, degraded the detail of gear & weapons.

The Dungeons got crazy as well as the requirements for them.

Unless you're a Healer or Tank the wait for dungeons is an hour or more.

Even the wait on the Battlegrounds is over 30min.


I now return to the most fun filled game I've ever played. No waiting. Plenty of action.

Dark Age of Camelot

No other game will give you;

3 realms (3 different sides)

14 crafting professions (7 being sub-class)

18 different races (excluding the minotaur)

44 different classes (excluding the mauler)

Able to template your character to fit your needs.

True battlegrounds (not WoW & WaR Instances)

True endgame RvR with frontiers. (not WaR Tiers)

 

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Subject: Cataclysm killed it for me.
Congrats on quitting WoW. You should check out RIFT before you go jumping back into DAoC, a nice change of pace and new scenery.

 

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Subject: Cataclysm killed it for me.
Uh, he posted the same "advertisement" for DAoC on the Rift board. You keep him over here. wink

 

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Subject: Cataclysm killed it for me.
Idealistgamer posted:
Yup I called it quits 3 weeks after release of Wrath.

They nerfed my OP wrath class, degraded the detail of gear & weapons.

The Dungeons got crazy as well as the requirements for them, like forcing ppl to be somewhat geared for heroics

Unless you're a Healer or Tank the wait for dungeons is 30 mins, cuz I just wanna mash buttons and do subpar dps

Even the wait on the Battlegrounds is over 10min.


I now return to the most fun filled game I've ever played. No waiting. Plenty of action.

Dark Age of Camelot

No other game will give you; a population of under 3k ppl

3 realms (3 different sides) only 1 server

14 crafting professions (7 being sub-class)

18 different races (excluding the minotaur)

44 different classes (excluding the mauler)

Able to template your character to fit your needs.

True battlegrounds (not WoW & WaR Instances)

True endgame RvR with frontiers. (not WaR Tiers)





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Subject: Cataclysm killed it for me.
Maxximus17 posted:
Idealistgamer posted:
Yup I called it quits 3 weeks after release of Wrath.

They nerfed my OP wrath class, degraded the detail of gear & weapons.

The Dungeons got crazy as well as the requirements for them, like forcing ppl to be somewhat geared for heroics

Unless you're a Healer or Tank the wait for dungeons is 30 mins, cuz I just wanna mash buttons and do subpar dps

Even the wait on the Battlegrounds is over 10min.


I now return to the most fun filled game I've ever played. No waiting. Plenty of action.

Dark Age of Camelot

No other game will give you; a population of under 3k ppl

3 realms (3 different sides) only 1 server

14 crafting professions (7 being sub-class)

18 different races (excluding the minotaur)

44 different classes (excluding the mauler)

Able to template your character to fit your needs.

True battlegrounds (not WoW & WaR Instances)

True endgame RvR with frontiers. (not WaR Tiers)





fixed.



Too lazy to post your own? You have to edit someone elses because you hate Dark Age of Camelot? You're the loser bud.

 

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Auenwing posted:
Uh, he posted the same "advertisement" for DAoC on the Rift board. You keep him over here. wink

Touche', lol. Didnt catch it over there.

 

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Subject: Cataclysm killed it for me.
"You can never go home again." to steal a quote.

Good luck. People tend to idealize and romanticize their 1st/favorite mmos -- reality will not match the expectations.

 

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Subject: Cataclysm killed it for me.
Yanno, my son and I went back to DAoC a couple of years ago, just to see what they'd done to it.

Logged on, spent less than 2 hours there, logged off and didn't look back again.

Too bad it wasn't a weekly subscription. We overpaid. By a lot. <cough>


 

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DAoC truly was the best MMO experience i have had so far, just like WoW is for alot of other people. I thought about goin back to it one final time aswell... but i just made myself realize its what? 10 yrs old now and completely dated. When stuff gets old it just gets blah!

just save all your 8man vids and wait for something new!! and not rift.. its terble!

 

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what made daoc so badass anyways>?

 

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Slors posted:
DAoC truly was the best MMO experience i have had so far, just like WoW is for alot of other people. I thought about goin back to it one final time aswell... but i just made myself realize its what? 10 yrs old now and completely dated. When stuff gets old it just gets blah!

just save all your 8man vids and wait for something new!! and not rift.. its terble!


I tried going back to DAoC about a year ago after playing from a few months before toa to just before laby. Its not the same. The community is shit now, the same bugs are still there that have been there for years and the programmers (or the custodian) left picking it up don't know what the hell to make of it because the code is so f'd up from years of changes. They didn't know how to change the moon back from a pumpkin for holloween for a month for example. Its just not the same anymore. Realm jumping is at its worse right now and the server lags severely or goes boom when more then 4k try to log in. The most I ever saw log in at one time was 4.2k, how it can still be up with that low of a population overall is beyond me. The character models I like but, there are a lot of areas in the world itself that definatly show its age and some options that are just not in there that are more or less a standard option with mmos now. Its not as if those features aren't capable of being put in however, as I said before, the code is a mess and the custodian hasn't been able to add some of those in yet.

For Rift, I had a friend abandon ship for that today. We've both been burned by AoC, War and he was burned by Star Trek. I tried to warn him to give it a few months before trying it out but I guess he didn't want to wait. Its not that I want the game to fail, its just that past failures have given me bad taste for newly released mmos.

 

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Beenb akc to DAOC for a few weeks now. I must say I am having a blast. Sure 3k people on a server playing at the same time doesn't seem liek much compared to wow, but I seem to see more poeple doing shit here then I foudn on wow ever and played since beta. This comparison is just saying that 3k people is aton if you think about it playing at once. Constant action in RVR, bg's ALWAYS popping, and they made it pretty damn easy to getto 50, albeit I have a few of them already. Anyone thinking of comiog back give it a try. The game itself is a cash cow, if they ever revamped or did daoc2 it would stomp all. Rift? meh, wow remake with a small twist, not interested. As far as wow, I played since beta, and I cannot handle anymore of the rinse and repeat shit. The game itself is soo overrated now it's not even funny.

 

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aon_mixed posted:
what made daoc so badass anyways&gt;?

The community played a huge factor. And the RvR (realm vs realm)/PvP was amazing for it's time! 3 realms seizing each-others keeps and trying to steal relics (+bonuses to your realm). Back in it's prime you'd see at least 1k chars at relic raids, pushing the server to it's limit.

I wonder to myself if they made a DAoC 2 what kind of turnout would they have, since Mythic has left a bad taste in peoples mouth with WAR.

 

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aon_mixed posted:
what made daoc so badass anyways>?
Realm spirit, mainly, IMO. When the call went out on alliance chat to go clear Darkness Falls, retake forts, upgrade doors or go defend a relic raid, you could always count on a bunch of folks showing up and having a grand old time at it. Death was still meaningless (no xp loss, no items lost, etc.) but if you got killed and left dead, it at least took a while to get back to the fight. Made for some interesting rush/counter-rush strategeries.

Also, BGs didn't suck.

It's painful to see how crappy the UI feels after the addon/macro interface in WoW. If there's one thing I will always applaud Blizzard for it's the advanced UI. Here's hoping that becomes the bar for future MMOs.

 

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Daoc was amazing back in the day =x

 

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Idealistgamer posted:
Maxximus17 posted:
Idealistgamer posted:
Yup I called it quits 3 weeks after release of Wrath.

They nerfed my OP wrath class, degraded the detail of gear & weapons.

The Dungeons got crazy as well as the requirements for them, like forcing ppl to be somewhat geared for heroics

Unless you're a Healer or Tank the wait for dungeons is 30 mins, cuz I just wanna mash buttons and do subpar dps

Even the wait on the Battlegrounds is over 10min.


I now return to the most fun filled game I've ever played. No waiting. Plenty of action.

Dark Age of Camelot

No other game will give you; a population of under 3k ppl

3 realms (3 different sides) only 1 server

14 crafting professions (7 being sub-class)

18 different races (excluding the minotaur)

44 different classes (excluding the mauler)

Able to template your character to fit your needs.

True battlegrounds (not WoW & WaR Instances)

True endgame RvR with frontiers. (not WaR Tiers)





fixed.



Too lazy to post your own? You have to edit someone elses because you hate Dark Age of Camelot? You're the loser bud.



You're calling someone a loser yet you're the one going around spamming Rift boards with this slop all weekend.

Gotcha.

 

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Iv'e been playing on the free trial.

It has something about it that no other MMo's iv'e played has.The music,the classes the bg's.Maybe it's just the world feels real.

It's to old to play full time now, but I hope someone brings out a 2nd version.

 

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That troll posted the same crap on the Rift forums, of SW:TOR forums... must be very bored.
I suspect an alt account though.

 

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I'm just waiting on his "disregard my post my account was hacked" post.

 

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No waiting is right because no one plays the pos Daoc anymore.

 

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Thericia posted:
I'm just waiting on his "disregard my post my account was hacked" post.


http://vnboards.ign.com/rift_general_forum/b23470/114454821/r114459306/

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Khreative posted:
Daoc was amazing back in the day =x

 

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DAOC was awesome back in the day, before TOA. But that was a lot of days back...

 

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Ugh_Lancelot posted:
Thericia posted:
I'm just waiting on his "disregard my post my account was hacked" post.


[link=http://vnboards.ign.com/rift_general_forum/b23470/114454821/r114459306/ http://vnboards.ign.com/rift_general_forum/b23470/114454821/r114459306/ [ /link]

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I remember when I was five and I had a 2600; I was the one who had to hook it up to the tv because they couldn't figure it out . .

 

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Idealistgamer posted:
Yup I called it quits 3 weeks after release of Cataclysm.

They ruined the classes, degraded the detail of gear & weapons.

The Dungeons got crazy as well as the requirements for them.

Unless you're a Healer or Tank the wait for dungeons is an hour or more.

Even the wait on the Battlegrounds is over 30min.


I now return to the most fun filled game I've ever played. No waiting. Plenty of action.

Dark Age of Camelot

No other game will give you;

3 realms (3 different sides)

14 crafting professions (7 being sub-class)

18 different races (excluding the minotaur)

44 different classes (excluding the mauler)

Able to template your character to fit your needs.

True battlegrounds (not WoW & WaR Instances)

True endgame RvR with frontiers. (not WaR Tiers)




How many times are you going to post this exact same thing? You have multiple posts in multiple threads with your copy/paste propaganda. DAoC is dead and none of your spam is going to change that.

 

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aon_mixed posted:
what made daoc so badass anyways>?


Nothing at all. It was actually a pretty terrible game, but there was no competition at the time, and for many people it was their first. They remember it fondly despite the incredible amount of bad game mechanics and terrible design failings.

Oh, and people who enjoyed having others forced to play with them sitting in one place for days on end killing the same monster to gain xp loved it too, so there's that.

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Oh, and people who enjoyed having others forced to play with them sitting in one place for days on end killing the same monster to gain xp loved it too, so there's that.


EQ had the same thing, and I remember it fondly. Jail beneath Highhold Keep anyone? dancing

That said, I only remember it fondly because of who I was back then, and it's subjective to the circumstances I was going through in my life at the time. In other words, it was a LOT of fun over 10 years ago.

Now? Oh dear god no. Games have changed, and so have I.

 

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It has the best PvP mechanics in MMO History..

 

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kuide posted:
It has the best PvP mechanics in MMO History..


AC gets my vote for that.

 

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GutterSludge posted:
kuide posted:
It has the best PvP mechanics in MMO History..


AC gets my vote for that.



It also had the best skill/level/loot systems. None of which are in use today in any way, sadly.

 

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Flesh_Wound posted:
GutterSludge posted:
kuide posted:
It has the best PvP mechanics in MMO History..


AC gets my vote for that.



It also had the best skill/level/loot systems. None of which are in use today in any way, sadly.



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and like many other people i know in WoW they are taking a break or trying Rift and i am joining them but i know so many people that just have stopped logging in they may do it once a week but for the most part everyone is just "meh" with the expac as it is i hope they are working on 4.1 right now i'd like to see some NEW stuff not just new raids

 

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slythetove posted:
aon_mixed posted:
what made daoc so badass anyways>?


Nothing at all. It was actually a pretty terrible game, but there was no competition at the time, and for many people it was their first. They remember it fondly despite the incredible amount of bad game mechanics and terrible design failings.

Oh, and people who enjoyed having others forced to play with them sitting in one place for days on end killing the same monster to gain xp loved it too, so there's that.

--Sly


^^ This. People remember it fondly because it was the first for them. But it tends to get over hyped now from old timers compared to the reality of what it really was.

 

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I played UO..

I still vote AC on just about every category..

 

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People remember it fondly because it was the first for them. But it tends to get over hyped now from old timers compared to the reality of what it really was.

Meh. It was great fun at the time. Not but a very tiny few folks saying the engine feels anything but clunky and dated after playing WoW. And say what you will, when was the last time you saw a PVP raid in WoW with 150+ people? Yeah. Funny how technology has "improved," eh? wink

 

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AC was an amazing game. When I found AC, I was looking for a graphical MUD. AC delivered!

It is just so dated now and devoid of people. If we had populations like we did back in the hay day, I would still be playing. I can't play a MMO that isn't the least bit massive anymore, though.

 

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The only (but quite big) flaw of UO is the now very old graphics.
Otherwise, in my opinion, it beats any other game released since then, including AC1, and I've played AC1 for over 5 years.
UO just couldn't keep me immersed with the crappy isometric "2D and half" after playing AC1 in full 3D with the HUGE view distance it had.

 

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If there was a game like AC1 with even a half-arsed attempt at updating to modern times and a decent population (and wasn't a bug filled messed) I would be all over it like a fat kid on a cake.

 

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aon_mixed posted:
what made daoc so badass anyways>?


Nothing! There are a lot of ex DAoC players on this board and they have a great deal of nostalgia for DAoC. It is the same phenomenon as the WoW players who pine away for the 1-60 days of WoW. They have conviently forgotten the negative aspects of DAoC.

 

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I don't think people forgot all of Camelot's flaws - it's that despite those flaws, it captured people for a long time and they fondly remember all the fun they had. Even though I play WoW now, when it comes to PVP there's no comparison between the times I had in Camelot to WoW.

 

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AC1 is still my favorite of all time. The excitement I felt when I thought about getting done with work and school and logging on was amazing. Have never felt anything like it again.

I got just a bit of that feeling when I played Rift Beta and was able to immerse myself into 3 different Soul trees. This was the first game that had that kind of flexibility since AC1 and it reminded me of that.

 

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So I have been back for about 2 weeks.

And I can safely say that every single class is not as fun to play as it used to be. I am saddened. I doubt I will last a month. The game just isn't as enjoyable as it used to be.

 

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Yeah I tried to PvP last week. I was bored.

I log into RIFT, make an Assassin that plays a guitar while you are stunned, play the exact same battlegrounds (cause RIFT copied WoW) and I'm having a blast. My character and building him is very important to me. Take that away, and I'm having a lot less fun.

 

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Idealistgamer posted:
Yup I called it quits 3 weeks after release of Cataclysm.

They ruined the classes, degraded the detail of gear & weapons.

The Dungeons got crazy as well as the requirements for them.

Unless you're a Healer or Tank the wait for dungeons is an hour or more.

Even the wait on the Battlegrounds is over 30min.

I totally agree with all of this. Cataclysm is the worst thing that happened to WoW.




I now return to the most fun filled game I've ever played. No waiting. Plenty of action.

Dark Age of Camelot

No other game will give you;

3 realms (3 different sides)

14 crafting professions (7 being sub-class)

18 different races (excluding the minotaur)

44 different classes (excluding the mauler)

Able to template your character to fit your needs.

True battlegrounds (not WoW & WaR Instances)

True endgame RvR with frontiers. (not WaR Tiers)




Great game, but gets no love. I may check out RIFT after all.

 

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You necroed a thread to post that worthless crap? confused

 

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aon_mixed posted:
what made daoc so badass anyways>?


the same thing as all the other old mmo's..

The community.

 

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DAoC was great for me because it was one of the very few times. I actually saw people cooperating in the battlegrounds. It was nothing to have scouting parties actually scouting and luring the enemy out. Then back door them with the main force with a flank move. Its pure joy to flank the enemy when they dont see you, and have your CC'ers mezz everything that moves. Nothing but ZZZZZZZZ's all over the place. Having 3 factions made for some insane battles. My only problem is once ToA hit, the emphasis shifted from protecting the realm, to leveling artifacts and running trials. I do remember one name specifically Gunnar. Dude was a beast.

 

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DAoC had a lot of flaws, most notably the terrible PvE and leveling system. That stuff would not even come close to flying in today's world of MMOs. But the RvR system is by FAR the most fun I've had in any MMO, hell any game I've ever played. Even when classes were unbalanced, the scale of the fight and the community that grew around it were amazing. Part of the problem WoW has, even as I continue to play, is that the community on each server is just crap. It's fractured by the instancing of content. As nice as that is for PvE and raids, it is terrible for PvP. World PvP, the only thing that has the possibility of being as fluid and dynamic as DAOC's RvR, is all but pointless when the rewards for evenly fought, rehashed BGs is much higher. There are bragging rights to be had, but when those bragging rights are wrapped around the core mechanics of the PvP system, they become all the more important.

WoW is a much better game in many, many ways. But at the core, the PvP is more about honor and getting the next piece of gear than actually winning battles for your faction.

DAoC was my first MMO and I'll always be nostalgic for how much fun it was. It created my love for PvP and fighting against someone that was actually thinking and trying to use their skills to beat me. But there's no reason a new game can't be more fun. WoW has gotten a ton of things right and is a great game that has pioneered more things than you can count... But it's PvP is rarely thrilling and epic. Just another grind.

 

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Anarchy Online best ever, until the 200-220 expansion. Rift quite a good mix of AION,WoW, Warhammer and EQ2 Id say.

 

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Since we are discussing nostaliga for MMO games of old, I will just mention that this name Riktor was the name of the original character I created when trying EQ a few months or so after it launched. Although I have many fond memories of EQ it's not for the gameplay, it's for the (at the time) unique fantasy world and espcially the people and the laughs we had playing it.

My 1st game however was Ultima Online. Some friends got me into UO fairly soon after it launched and although it was my first major online game of any kind really and was extremely interesting, it quickly soured on me. I played the original Ultima games, even the ones that appeared as poorer translations on the original NES system (yeah, I am getting old) so I had great expectations. As I recall my 1st character in there picked up a pickaxe, did some mining thinking I would make some armor and a weapon and go explore. Entering my 1st town Trinsic, somewhat ironically known as the city of honor, I think I went 5 ft before I saw some message saying SoandSojerkoff removes items from you. A guy following me was pickpocketing me. When I turned around and opened my backpack suddenly a bomb like item appeared in my bag. Yeah, you could actually put things in people's inventory without any consent. This bomb blew up, killing me instantly and hitting the crowd around me in its radius which flagged me immediately as the worst possible villain, Major Dastardly Ahole or whatever it was called and basically made me Killed on Sight by the guards. So as a ghost I got to watch random passersby looting my body of the random stuff I had accumulated thus far.

It's a wonder I ever played another MMORPG at all.

 

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Riktor_before_IGN posted:
Since we are discussing nostaliga for MMO games of old, I will just mention that this name Riktor was the name of the original character I created when trying EQ a few months or so after it launched. Although I have many fond memories of EQ it's not for the gameplay, it's for the (at the time) unique fantasy world and espcially the people and the laughs we had playing it.

My 1st game however was Ultima Online. Some friends got me into UO fairly soon after it launched and although it was my first major online game of any kind really and was extremely interesting, it quickly soured on me. I played the original Ultima games, even the ones that appeared as poorer translations on the original NES system (yeah, I am getting old) so I had great expectations. As I recall my 1st character in there picked up a pickaxe, did some mining thinking I would make some armor and a weapon and go explore. Entering my 1st town Trinsic, somewhat ironically known as the city of honor, I think I went 5 ft before I saw some message saying SoandSojerkoff removes items from you. A guy following me was pickpocketing me. When I turned around and opened my backpack suddenly a bomb like item appeared in my bag. Yeah, you could actually put things in people's inventory without any consent. This bomb blew up, killing me instantly and hitting the crowd around me in its radius which flagged me immediately as the worst possible villain, Major Dastardly Ahole or whatever it was called and basically made me Killed on Sight by the guards. So as a ghost I got to watch random passersby looting my body of the random stuff I had accumulated thus far.

It's a wonder I ever played another MMORPG at all.




Sorry dude. That was me that stole all your stuff and put the bomb in your bag.

But to be fair, I did that to a LOT of people grin

 

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Any word on Titan so we can put this baby to rest? dancing

 

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Sprindex posted:

Any word on Titan so we can put this baby to rest? dancing


This thread was put to rest over a month ago.

 

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i hear rift is fun

 

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dkdimmesdale posted:
i hear rift is fun



RIFT was horible.

Getting the free trial out fast was the best thing they did.

If was bad enough I wasted $45 on Cataclysm.

 

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Unless things have changed since last I looked, UO's UI also feel by the wayside and was unplayable to me eventually.

 

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Daoc was fun, but the need to have a buff bot if you don't always run in groups kind of puts a damper on things, other than that ya daoc > WoW easily.

 

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Rift just keeps getting better... :-)

 

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I'm Playing 3.3.5 WoW now. Glad I can try all classes without spending time on leveling and other crap. Pure PvP <3

 

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