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Topic: High Hopes.

IndridCole Posts: 853 Registered: Jan 7, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 853 User ID: 1,343,922	Subject: High Hopes.
	I'm not the most experienced MMO player there is...far far from it. And since I've been on this board I've seen gamers here chat up 'the next big thing' and I can't help notice people get psyched up, psyched out, then come back to WoW. I've not been here long to see tranisitions, but with everyone jumping off the WoW bandwagon it 'feels' as this is the end. Prob not cause there are those who will migrate back because they're taking a break. I understand. Then there are those who are basiclly giving Blizzard the finger. I can understand that as well. Has anyone considered the idea that Rift and ST:TOR are just going to lead you guys back to WoW? Or possibly homicidal rage? (Cause the way some of you speak about WoW y'all seem ready to kill.) -----signature----- I found something else by accident. It has become my new passion.
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Auenwing Title: straightface Posts: 8,837 Registered: Dec 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,717 User ID: 752,779	Subject: High Hopes.
	I think most of us going over to check out Rift, are doing so with the thought that we could be back here. Like you said, it's happened before. We're a bit jaded. As I've said for years, I'll leave WoW when a better game comes along. Is Rift it? Don't know. It offers a lot of things my guild has been looking for through 3 other breaks to beta and play other games. It has the best shot at the moment of the kind of gameplay and community that we'd hoped to find in WoW. Will the break be final this time? Maybe. Like I've also said, in the other thread, there are still things I like about WoW. But it FEELS different this time. Because they broke the world I loved for a bunch of reasons that I think had less to do with lore/gameplay and more to do with trying to squeeze in more mobs without adding more structure (rob Peter to pay Paul if you will.) The railcart experience in the lower zones and then through the 80-85 experience complete with a lot of (imho) unnecessary cutscenes just broke the one thing for me and my guild that this game always had going for it: immersion. They broke the unspoken covenant in many ways of a persistent world. My concerns with Cata have been expressed objectively in other threads for almost 2 months. And I feel that the quality in both artwork and lore is less than was there during Vanilla. I say that sadly. I've been burnt out before, through games before WoW and because of WoW. I've taken breaks. And come back. I've logged numerous enjoyable hours out here solo and with my guild. Even tried to make a go of Cat, having fun (not in the 80-85 experience), but by rolling new races and leveling exclusively through dungeons which has been a blast, even though we were saddened by the changes in those instances. So it's not without trying. Sometimes, you just know when something doesn't feel right anymore. When the energy is gone or however you want to describe it. If Rift absolutely craters, say in 3 months or 6 months, chances are we will be back. And we will be richer for having experienced whatever Rift has to offer. -----signature----- There are those who play tank classes, and those that tank. The weapon is only as good as the person wielding it. Free advice is often worth what you pay for it: nothing.
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GutterSludge Posts: 4,620 Registered: Nov 6, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,545 User ID: 1,091,587	Subject: High Hopes.
	Its a game... If it isn't fun, why play? If it is fun, then play and have fun. Anything else borders on idiocy. -----signature----- Guttersludge People just can't handle the truth. NeMeFieD said:"Yea I Ucmed for 12 days straight.." njwCSUS posted:I'm homosexual, so really, its ongoing sexual attraction to my father, not my mother.
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Kriegprojekt Posts: 2,653 Registered: Apr 12, '10 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,591 User ID: 1,390,814	Subject: High Hopes.
	GutterSludge posted: Its a game... If it isn't fun, why play? If it is fun, then play and have fun. Anything else borders on idiocy. Ill add, if it is or becomes "work", you shouldnt be playing it. -----signature----- http://www.immortal-guild.com/ Deepstrike Server Milkman - Guardian Bard
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heiromancerdrackus Title: Is, indeed, a fat ass. Posts: 17,283 Registered: Dec 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,007 User ID: 573,741	Subject: High Hopes.
	Honestly, I'm leaving for Rift, primarily, because there is SO MUCH dynamic content for me as an individual or even as a guild member. There is simply so much to do in the game that is not static. The world pvp objectives they added recently are just top notch and it really encourages some awesome battles on the open field. Good, old fashioned, server based battles. Except these don't lag to shit, even during invasions. I'm not impressed by what Trion has done new (they really haven't done anything new). I'm impressed by how they executed it. Trion, in a matter of a month, has gotten more confidence from me than Blizzards current B Team. Naturally, I have the rose colored glasses on right now. I haven't played end game, although I know what it is. I do know that they respond to their playerbase and put in critical, awesome new game systems in a matter of 2 weeks (The Wardstone world pvp objectives, in this instance). I can't say the same for Blizzard. The recent rash of terrible balancing changes, the fundamental changes to class mechanics in Cata and generally lack luster raiding experience may just be a result of my finally getting fed up with WoW after almost 7 years. But, I don't think so. I think I'm fed up with Blizzard and more particularly, Ghost Crawler. I'll come back when a new patch gets put in and there is new stuff for me to experience. I always do. Blizzard tells a story like no other MMORPG dev, as far as I'm concerned. But WoW won't be my MMO home anymore. In fact, it hasn't since I started Beta testing Rift. So will I come back? Sure. Will I come back as a result of Rift? No, I won't. I'll come back because Blizzard does something right. Right now the only thing (IMO) WoW has on Rift is more armor models. Thats it. -----signature----- (none)
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IndridCole Posts: 853 Registered: Jan 7, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 853 User ID: 1,343,922	Subject: High Hopes.
	I thank you for your replies. I'm sorry if any of you have felt that you're just retyping something that you've not already typed 100 times before. I just hope Rift doe snot fall by the way of Conan, and Warhammer, and any other MMOs that have come and bowed out. And I'm really not an 'anti-everything that is not WoW'. Not a fanboi either. It's just that, for me, Warcraft (for lack of a better anology) is home. -----signature----- I found something else by accident. It has become my new passion.
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the_great_intex Title: This is what cool looks like Posts: 30,622 Registered: Jun 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,363 User ID: 692,453	Subject: High Hopes.
	Amazing song -----signature----- Only those who dare to fail greatly, can ever achieve greatly In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity The only thing in life achieved without effort is failure Time Circuits... On. Flux Capacitor.... fluxxing.
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Auenwing Title: straightface Posts: 8,837 Registered: Dec 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,717 User ID: 752,779	Subject: High Hopes.
	I'm sorry, Indrid, I wasn't trying to say I'm irritated or whatever retyping, I was actually trying to WARN people they were gonna hear the same stuff again. Actually, I appreciate your original post and the way you phrased it. -----signature----- There are those who play tank classes, and those that tank. The weapon is only as good as the person wielding it. Free advice is often worth what you pay for it: nothing.
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heiromancerdrackus Title: Is, indeed, a fat ass. Posts: 17,283 Registered: Dec 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,007 User ID: 573,741	Subject: High Hopes.
	IndridCole posted: I thank you for your replies. I'm sorry if any of you have felt that you're just retyping something that you've not already typed 100 times before. I just hope Rift doe snot fall by the way of Conan, and Warhammer, and any other MMOs that have come and bowed out. And I'm really not an 'anti-everything that is not WoW'. Not a fanboi either. It's just that, for me, Warcraft (for lack of a better anology) is home. Honestly, I don't think it will. AoC and Warhammer had some serious, fundamental, game breaking problems when they came out. WAR from a design standpoint (nevermind the bugs) and AoC from a bug / lack of content standpoint. Rift really doesn't have these issues. -----signature----- (none)
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IndridCole Posts: 853 Registered: Jan 7, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 853 User ID: 1,343,922	Subject: High Hopes.
	Auenwing posted: I'm sorry, Indrid, I wasn't trying to say I'm irritated or whatever retyping, I was actually trying to WARN people they were gonna hear the same stuff again. Actually, I appreciate your original post and the way you phrased it. No. Thank you. Your opinions are always appreciated. -----signature----- I found something else by accident. It has become my new passion.
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NukeMage Posts: 3,856 Registered: Apr 7, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 3,821 User ID: 666,051	Subject: High Hopes.
	I wish there were several different, unique and QUALITY MMORPG's to choose from, whether they are WoW, Rift, the new star wars, or whatever. Competition generally fuels innovation and higher quality, and as much as I like WoW Lord knows it can use a whole lot more of those things! -----signature----- I need a new hobby . . Ten level 85's (one of each class) in WoW Back to try out the Feb patch in AC
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Sprawl-zero1eye- Title: IGN Vault Staff Reziztance iz Futile Posts: 53,263 Registered: Jun 28, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 52,657 User ID: 692,733	Subject: High Hopes.
	My MO the last few months, since before Cataclysm was to tell my guild "I'll be back for the expansion, I just need a break". Then the expansion came, and I tried to go back, but I couldn't. I'm not sure if this means I need a longer break or if it means I am done. I hope it is just the former because the number of friends I've made in WoW makes it a game worth keeping. -----signature----- Mirkwood MUD, OneEye IvoryFang, Lord of the VampireZ (Retired) AC Frostfell, Clan Z - Lvl 239 Grief Dagger (Retired) WoW Lightbringer Alliance, Z Guild - Lvl 85 Combat Rogue (Retired) Making iOS Apps these days at http://zsprawl.com/iOS
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Groooovechampion Posts: 4,616 Registered: Jun 30, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,485 User ID: 818,115	Subject: High Hopes.
	That´s my "problem" too somewhat, but that`s been like that for the last addons. Friends keep summoning me back. Atm, I just resub occassionally. One mistake I don`t want to do again was what I did with Daoc. WoW came out and I started playing that game more. My old guild of buddies vanished over a course of a few months. That was several years ago and the email addresses are just dead :/ Anyways, I have little to no hope about the having fun in the future of wow. Blizzard (or Activpission) is going way to low with that limbo bar. I´d be more of a mouthy player and post on their suggestion boards but a) would just attract trolls b) nothing would get through (and c) EU player ^^, can`t post on US boards). Saying that Blizzard doesn´t read suggestion board is nonsense, but I must say that Eve Online/CCP is a bit more active. Sheesh, I even requested they would add some alarm sounds upon getting hit and it came soonish. I don`t know what the next addon will be, but I wouldn`t be surprised if it is a yet another rinse and repeat with more and better rinse and repeats. This is probably the reason why an obvious wow-clone like Rift is better to sub to in the future - Trion is at least putting exactly that what I´ve been hoping for: flexible class system, no limited spec bullcrap etc. Beyond Rift, I am looking forward to that Warhammer40k MMOG too. About time we get some World of Starcraft in the true and real WH40k style. I haz spoken (too much) -----signature----- DaoC, WoW (retired, inactive); WAR (semi active), EVE (active) "Ye'know, com'on! Giimmeee di Ke$$$HHHHHH!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OADJl-CVDo0
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The_Korrigan Title: Scrub Buster Posts: 21,660 Registered: Jul 17, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 21,292 User ID: 255,861	Subject: High Hopes.
	heiromancerdrackus posted: The world pvp objectives they added recently are just top notch and it really encourages some awesome battles on the open field. Good, old fashioned, server based battles. These gonna be specially interesting after release, when the whines will start because Defiant side outnumbers Guardians and Guardians never win those world PvP battles. -----signature----- SWTOR: 50 Jedi Shadow (Tank), 50 Sith Marauder (Annihilation). LOTRO: Lifetime account, playing very casually. WoW: Both accounts canceled for now. GW2: Future Warrior.
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Sociop Posts: 402 Registered: Dec 8, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 402 User ID: 1,378,656	Subject: High Hopes.
	Kriegprojekt posted: GutterSludge posted: Its a game... If it isn't fun, why play? If it is fun, then play and have fun. Anything else borders on idiocy. Ill add, if it is or becomes "work", you shouldnt be playing it. Exactly why I quit end game stuff on my 85's and am actually having fun just leveling alts instead. -----signature----- (none)
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Blisteringballs Posts: 2,247 Registered: Aug 12, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,247 User ID: 1,366,612	Subject: High Hopes.
	I parrot the idea that Rift is absolutely nothing new. However, after only several hours in the beta, I think it's better (technically, artistically, and from a developer-to-end-user perspective) and a lot more fun during the early levels. WoW is still a good game, generally speaking. But they handed the reigned over to a rank amateur (Ghostcrawler) and for the ONLY time in years people are by and large unhappy with what they have done (it's essentially Everquest now). Blizzard can save their game by firing Ghostcrawler immediately and focusing on content and engine enhancements. But they won't. Watch Rome fall. -----signature----- http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fox%20News
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Voqar Posts: 8,454 Registered: Mar 12, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,255 User ID: 73,152	Subject: High Hopes.
	It's normal for people to get hyped up about new MMORPGs that look good initially. Unfortunately, MMORPG reality dictates that most MMORPGs aren't that good. The truly good MMORPGs are few in number and none of them holds a candle to WoW. Some will hold on to the lesser game just to do something different or because they are that sick of WoW no matter how good it is, but many will be back after a short diversion once reality sets in. -----signature----- Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that - George Carlin
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Thericia Posts: 18,540 Registered: Jan 8, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 18,085 User ID: 599,620	Subject: High Hopes.
	Voqar posted: It's normal for people to get hyped up about new MMORPGs that look good initially. Unfortunately, MMORPG reality dictates that most MMORPGs aren't that good. The truly good MMORPGs are few in number and none of them holds a candle to WoW. Some will hold on to the lesser game just to do something different or because they are that sick of WoW no matter how good it is, but many will be back after a short diversion once reality sets in. Then, let me ask you why the "mass exodus" due to 4.0.6, where players are just "quitting" without saying they are going to any other game? WoW is far from perfect. -----signature----- - There is no such thing as a perfect game. If you make a game idiot proof, someone will just make better idiots. Deepstrike (PvP) Server - Guardian
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