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Some guilds advance very quickly while others take their time. Some guilds aren't very interested in guild perks while others QQ that they can't get perks fast enough. Some guilds chomp at the bit and hit the xp cap every morning! Other guilds will hit the cap only on the weekends. Where does your guild fit in? Is your guild the slow and steady type? Or are you up there at the top just waiting for the xp reset? How important are guild perks to you and your guild? What level is your guild currently at? Do you like the guild advancement system? Why or why not?
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It's purely a guild numbers game. The more people you have the faster guild xp will build up. It's possible for small guilds to cap it out each day but they have to put in a lot more hours per person.
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The guild advancement system as it stands is pretty terrible.
It encourages large guilds by rewarding them in every aspect possible. It punishes small guilds by making these perks unavailable to small guild members who choose to stay in their small guild.
Worst of all it makes it extremely difficult for guilds to "cross" over even if they want to because now when people look to join guilds the first thing they list is "Guild must be level XX".
No reason at all for this to even exist this way. Guilds should all progress at the same rate because the rewards reward the individual character more than anything else.
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it doesnt really reward level 85 guild hoppers as far as the unique perks go, they still have to have a specific rep status within the guild in order to use/wear them (for some of the perks)
don't you lose the Guild BOAs if you hop out?
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I was in a guild that got through the first two levels within a week or so after launch and having less than 80 members (inclding alts.)
After being with the guild a month I saw that the acivity level was miniscule and they made no effort to advertise. I went shopping around and found another guild while questing in Twilight Highlands. After an 'interview' process we both agreed I would be a good fit. To my surprise it's a guild with 350 members (20+active people) and they are level 15 (65% to 16) so it was s nice surprise indeed.
I did not ask the interviewer the level of the guild, I was only concerned with the activity level of the guild. In fact when guilds advertise on my server they never state level, only that they have a tab, and how much GB space they have.
*As far as the system goes? The perks are good for 85's who are repping with factions and consume potions and get the 10% speed buff. I almost forgot about the BOAs now I'm getting really psyched since I have so many below 80. 
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My guild serves one purpose...
guild bank tabs.
If there were a way to have a gbank w/o the "g"..I would disband it tomorrow..
Edit: I must disagree with the title...I could care less about a "Logo".
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slythetove posted:
The guild advancement system as it stands is pretty terrible.
It encourages large guilds by rewarding them in every aspect possible. It punishes small guilds by making these perks unavailable to small guild members who choose to stay in their small guild.
Worst of all it makes it extremely difficult for guilds to "cross" over even if they want to because now when people look to join guilds the first thing they list is "Guild must be level XX".
No reason at all for this to even exist this way. Guilds should all progress at the same rate because the rewards reward the individual character more than anything else.
--Sly
/agree
edit: And to expand on this. I have these friends that are part of the largest raiding guild on our server (horde side) and they are always trying to get me to 'apply'. They just can't seem to understand that I don't want to join a large guild and I am not interested in raiding. And then they say, "Well, you could join and not be part of the core raiding groups then"
I LOVE my small guild. I would never leave for the larger guilds. It's just sad that they get all the rewards.
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Ferry,
How dare you not conform to GC's "vision" of everyone belonging to a raiding guild, and actively raiding!!!!
The nerve of some people!! As if you could possibly have fun or enjoy WOW any other way BUT the way GC intends you to do so!!!
/scoff!!!
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GutterSludge posted:
Ferry,
How dare you not conform to GC's "vision" of everyone belonging to a raiding guild, and actively raiding!!!!
The nerve of some people!! As if you could possibly have fun or enjoy WOW any other way BUT the way GC intends you to do so!!!
/scoff!!!
Wait a minute size of guild does not dictate 'raiding guild'.
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Ferrydust posted:
/agree
edit: And to expand on this. I have these friends that are part of the largest raiding guild on our server (horde side) and they are always trying to get me to 'apply'. They just can't seem to understand that I don't want to join a large guild and I am not interested in raiding. And then they say, "Well, you could join and not be part of the core raiding groups then"
I LOVE my small guild. I would never leave for the larger guilds. It's just sad that they get all the rewards.
Don't get me wrong I loved my small guild as well. But having only 3 actual active (if that) people in it was not going to advnace it anytime soon. When you say small guild what size are we actually talking about?
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Indrid, did you even read Ferry's post?
Try it, and then my jest might make more sense..
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Ugh, who advertises their guild based on guild bank size, level, or ... well I know the answer to this one... how many bosses they've downed? Makes me very sad to think online communities have been dumbed down to this.
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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:
Ugh, who advertises their guild based on guild bank size, level, or ... well I know the answer to this one... how many bosses they've downed? Makes me very sad to think online communities have been dumbed down to this.
/agree
This is why I'm waiting patiently for an entirely new and unique MMO. Eventually it will de-evolve to the point of emulating WoW simply because WoW refugees always flock to new games, at least for a while. But I'm hoping that I will find a new MMO where the community is more concerned about the whole and not the individual. Obviously this won't last, but it should be safe for a year a two.
On the other hand, the Anarchy Online community hasn't quite gotten to that point yet, and it's what... 4 years older than WoW? Maybe I'll rejoin their ranks and see for myself, especially considering that game requires FAR FAR more number crunching and power gaming that WoW, yet hasn't (to my knowledge) turned into a giant epeen war.
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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:
Ugh, who advertises their guild based on guild bank size, level, or ... well I know the answer to this one... how many bosses they've downed? Makes me very sad to think online communities have been dumbed down to this.
Normally they just advertise the fact that they have a guild bank.. and a tabard.
My guild is pretty tight-knit, we raid 10-man and don't have many more players than our core raid team. We used to comfortably hit the xp cap every day when people were running a lot of heroics, things have slowed down recently though since people no longer have much reason to do heroics. Still, we're level 14, not too far behind the curve. And we downed Nef last weekend to finally get 12/12 progression and unlock the dark phoenix mount, so I expect an enthusiasm burst as people push to get exalted guild rep so they can buy one. 
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GutterSludge posted:
Ferry,
How dare you not conform to GC's "vision" of everyone belonging to a raiding guild, and actively raiding!!!!
The nerve of some people!! As if you could possibly have fun or enjoy WOW any other way BUT the way GC intends you to do so!!!
/scoff!!!
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IndridCole posted:
When you say small guild what size are we actually talking about?
Probably 10 active.
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The ironic thing is the achievement "Everyone Needs a Logo" is bugged adn doesn't work most of hte time. WE've chagned our guild tabard numerous times for this and it hasn't worked yet.
I'm not impressed witht he guild advancement system. If they want ot make it all guild friendly they could try basing the exp percetnages instead of flat numbers. A guild of 3 needs 300 xp to advance, a guild 100 need 100000 to advance. /shrug Something of that nature.
I will admit if I get bored or irritated at my guild now though I won't quit. Why? I want the armadillo pet.
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PallyDog posted:
The ironic thing is the achievement "Everyone Needs a Logo" is bugged
Someone caught my humor! ~_^
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PallyDog posted:
The ironic thing is the achievement "Everyone Needs a Logo" is bugged adn doesn't work most of hte time. WE've chagned our guild tabard numerous times for this and it hasn't worked yet.
I'm not impressed witht he guild advancement system. If they want ot make it all guild friendly they could try basing the exp percetnages instead of flat numbers. A guild of 3 needs 300 xp to advance, a guild 100 need 100000 to advance. /shrug Something of that nature.
I will admit if I get bored or irritated at my guild now though I won't quit. Why? I want the armadillo pet.
You need a proof reader <3
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I have a small guild, we just hit level 8 I think (the hasty hearth one - very nice) - we're obviously not advancing very fast.
I don't really mind, though. We'll get there eventually, and I certainly don't need the perks right away. And it makes it all the nicer when we do manage to get enough of us on to run a heroic together or something (although we haven't done anything in a couple weeks now... everyone has been very sporadic lately).
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