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Bashiok posted:
We think "the Exalted" is a really awesome title. With Cataclysm we added a bunch of new reps though, and we want the title to keep pace so that it's always representative of someone that's obtained a considerable number of exalted reputations throughout the life of the game, even as we add more.
We did consider offering multiple titles for the various tiers, but "the Exalted" fits so perfectly and we wanted to avoid a potentially infinite string of titles like "the Fairly Exalted", "the Nigh Exalted", "the Mostly Exalted", etc. We also considered grandfathering in those who had already earned it but think that this title can be a unique testament to the continued efforts of reputation hunters and keep the same value as we introduce more reps and push the requirements up to match.
It's different than every other rep in the way we're raising it with a new bar to meet, and I do apologize that it wasn't communicated clearly beforehand that it was going to be functioning this way.
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Sooooo.....you have to re-earn this title with every expansion? /facepalm
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Grandfather people in is way more retarded than changing it to begin with.
Blizzard just piles the stupid on top of stupid to make epic stupid.
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If you keep making the pole the carrot is dangling from longer and longer and longer, at some point it will snap.
I don't understand why they just don't come up with another title. 
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PS: does this mean that they have taken away an already granted title?
Is this a game first? You could always keep the PvP titles they rescinded, couldn't you?
Isn't the number 1 rule about (faith in) persistent worlds is that it's persistent?
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oh quit whining. i guarantee that jsut about everyone who has/had that title will do it again. They/we are rep whores. Most probably alreadu have the reps knocked out.
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-Mythril- posted:
oh quit whining. i guarantee that just about everyone who has/had that title will do it again. They/we are rep whores. Most probably already have the reps knocked out.
Dumb design choice, but I agree. The people that waste their time doing reps will continue to waste their time doing reps.
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Just like the people who waste their time raiding, pvping, or whatever..
WOW is just a hobby with a huge timesink...
Of course, many think that the game actually matters..but knocking someone for how they waste their time, while suggesting that you wasting your time is somehow different, is just ridiculous.
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Spookysheep posted:
Grandfather people in is way more retarded than changing it to begin with.
Blizzard just piles the stupid on top of stupid to make epic stupid.
amen
fack..id just be happy if they could get rid of all the a$$holes.
there should be a douchebag filter...
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oh..and make the game even remotely fun and playable again....
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Auenwing posted:
PS: does this mean that they have taken away an already granted title?
Yes.
Understandably people are a bit pissed.
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-Mythril- posted:
oh quit whining. i guarantee that jsut about everyone who has/had that title will do it again. They/we are rep whores. Most probably alreadu have the reps knocked out.
Given that I'm not whining, I suspect you're right.
I'm just amazed at the continued bad decisions I see.
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my above comment sounded harsher than i meant it to be. It's not directed at any individuals but more at the general tone of the whole thread.
anywho.. it's a moot point. Are there any here on VN who were "the Exalted", who still play the game, who aren't "the Exalted" again?
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I'm not into reps or achievements much, so this could never affect me, but it has hosed a couple of my guildies that already had the title and who put in extreme amounts of time to get it during WOTLK.
I can see expanding the requirements for the title due to new factions, but stripping it away from people who previously earned it is utterly stupid and unfair.
I really don't understand what Bliz is trying to accomplish lately - are they intentionally trying to drive away players with idiotic design and decision making?
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I'm not affected since I always thought that kind of achievement rep grind was silly and you wouldn't catch me alive doing one, this is a totally retarded and silly decision from Blizzard... or may I say "Bliztard" here. People "worked" (kinda) hard to get their actual title. Removing it is denying them that "work".
They are really extending the "carrot/bait" system a bit too far recently.
Voqar posted:
I really don't understand what Bliz is trying to accomplish lately - are they intentionally trying to drive away players with idiotic design and decision making?
I'm actually starting to wonder too...
I'm having some kind of silly theory on that. They are "testing the waters" for their next MMORPG, and how far they can push the grind and more important, the "grind again" factor before people leave.
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TinMan52 posted:
-Mythril- posted:
oh quit whining. i guarantee that just about everyone who has/had that title will do it again. They/we are rep whores. Most probably already have the reps knocked out.
Dumb design choice, but I agree. The people that waste their time doing reps will continue to waste their time doing reps.
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And yet you continue to pay them? Now who has issues?
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45 is difficult.
46-50 is easy.
Dragonmaw
Earthen Ring
Ramkahen
Guardians of Hyjal
Therazane
Bilgewater
Hellscream.
those are the next 5 out of 7 to do. Anyone who put the time in to get reps to 45 in the first place... cruised into 50. It's virtually zero work compared to the grind that some of the past reps were. Dailies and/or running heroics at just one a day will have people already done.
edit: the hardcore rep grinders already had 49 50 or even 51 before Cat came out.
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-Mythril- posted:
my above comment sounded harsher than i meant it to be. It's not directed at any individuals but more at the general tone of the whole thread.
anywho.. it's a moot point. Are there any here on VN who were "the Exalted", who still play the game, who aren't "the Exalted" again?
I knew that. 
And actually my guildmate had the title. Doesn't now. Won't bother. Not that it was a concern.
Just have to agree with everyone wondering: generically: who's making these design decisions? Because I doubt it's marketing.
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I don't mind the change. People who earned the title before Cataclysm will have absolutely no problem re-earning it now. People who didn't earn it before Cataclysm will have roughly the same difficulty earning it now as they would have before. They maintained the spirit of the achievement.
Is it inconsistent with their other policies, though? Absolutely. Why you can still go back and earn WotLK raiding titles and mounts, but you can't get exalted at 45 reps, is totally inconsistent. /shrug
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How anyone who earned this title prior could be okay with this change defies logic.
Blizz is laughing in your face with changes like this. Literally.
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It really isn't that bad. . . though no one likes to have something given to them, and then taken away!
Someone who gets to exalted with wintersaber trainers, hydraxian waterlords or any of those other really long and tedious reps, will have little trouble getting a few cata reps to exalted.
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Arcilite_I posted:
How anyone who earned this title prior could be okay with this change defies logic.
Blizz is laughing in your face with changes like this. Literally.
Wellll... people who earned the title BEFORE had to put a ton of work into it. A TON of work.
People who didn't earn it before, and now got it through the ez-reps associated with cataclysm didn't have to do nearly as much work. It devalued the title.
People who did earn it before will easily get it again through those same ez-reps.
I don't see how the logic is so difficult to understand.
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Malachi256 posted:
Arcilite_I posted:
How anyone who earned this title prior could be okay with this change defies logic.
Blizz is laughing in your face with changes like this. Literally.
Wellll... people who earned the title BEFORE had to put a ton of work into it. A TON of work.
People who didn't earn it before, and now got it through the ez-reps associated with cataclysm didn't have to do nearly as much work. It devalued the title.
People who did earn it before will easily get it again through those same ez-reps.
I don't see how the logic is so difficult to understand.
That's just....lol
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I'm kinda shocked they didn't realize that if they wanted to change something like this, it would need a lot of warning to "soften to blow"?
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GutterSludge posted:
Just like the people who waste their time raiding, pvping, or whatever..
WOW is just a hobby with a huge timesink...
Of course, many think that the game actually matters..but knocking someone for how they waste their time, while suggesting that you wasting your time is somehow different, is just ridiculous.
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