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I'm in the dungeon finder last night on my 84 mage.
Group pops, I zone into Stonecore. We are all right at the beginning not a single mob is dead, so this is a brand new dungeon.
Two of the players start saying "kick me kick me kick me" in party chat.
The first vote comes up, I hit no, but it passes. The second vote comes up I hit no and now it can't pass.
The other two guys then realize "hey yeah wtf" and they won't vote kick any more either. So this guy is cussing us out, and raging that we won't kick him. I just put him on ignore and go continue questing for about 20 minutes until he finally drops.
Look, I dunno what he was trying to do, but I'm not going to help him since he's wasting my time. I am going to force him to waste his.
Now... what exactly were these 2 trying to accomplish besides wasting 3 random strangers time? Anyone know? I don't get it.
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Guess they didn't like the random that popped. I think if you are kicked you don't get the debuff but am not sure.
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Correct, if you are kicked you don't get the debuff. On that part I'm certain you are correct.
Are you saying perhaps they are using the random dungeon finder, but they did not like Stonecore, so they try to get kicked? I think that's a possibility.
Any other possible reasons?
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Sounds like it.
Get the debuff - cant que for 15 minutes then have to wait 30 minutes+ to get a DF group.
Get kicked - instantly que and wait 30+ to get a DF group.
Getting kicked actually saves some time I guess.
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Yeah he was just trying to avoid the debuff, wasting your time in the process.
I'd have done the same than you - at least HE got annoyed too.
Typical PUG idiot.
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This is the epic experience we are supposed to be getting from dungeons that Blizzard keeps talking about right?
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I am seeing this happen more and more lately. I rather use my vote to kick on someone who really deserves to be kicked!
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What I do in this situation is say I don't want to do the dungeon, but I will if anyone is really hard up for a piece of gear there.
If everyone is in agreement, we'll go kill the first boss if it's not an annoying trash/boss. Then we'll queue up again as a group.
Unless there are bad dps/heals, then will just leave/kick.
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a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
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jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Maybe, but in the end Blizzard fanboys will not leave WoW no matter what is offered as an alternative. It was true right from beta until now, it's not changing.
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Broken_Kayfabe posted:
jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Maybe, but in the end Blizzard fanboys will not leave WoW no matter what is offered as an alternative. It was true right from beta until now, it's not changing.
Yeah. I really dont see a drastic drop in numbers when Rift comes out. A bunch will leave, but it wont make anyone at Blizz cringe in fear that WoW will be dying anytime soon.
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Yeah. I really dont see a drastic drop in numbers when Rift comes out. A bunch will leave, but it wont make anyone at Blizz cringe in fear that WoW will be dying anytime soon.
Especially since most of them will be back a month later.
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Were they 85's?
Pretty stupid for 85's to get randomed into stonecore or vortex. You get no rep, no useful loot, mobs are too easy (except if you're stupid or suck). I hate getting those instances on 85's...but I don't usually bail on groups unless they suck and can't all be kicked.
Like...people who do 4k dps in heroics...should delete their toons, for ex.
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jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Oh, come on. Ever since wow came out there's been a handful of 'wow killers' and it's never changed anything (and they all failed pretty massively, too).
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Dums posted:
jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Oh, come on. Ever since wow came out there's been a handful of 'wow killers' and it's never changed anything (and they all failed pretty massively, too).
I don't think he's calling Rift a WoW killer so much as he's pointing out Blizz's shady tactics.
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Kriegprojekt posted:
Broken_Kayfabe posted:
jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Maybe, but in the end Blizzard fanboys will not leave WoW no matter what is offered as an alternative. It was true right from beta until now, it's not changing.
Yeah. I really dont see a drastic drop in numbers when Rift comes out. A bunch will leave, but it wont make anyone at Blizz cringe in fear that WoW will be dying anytime soon.
im actually hoping that a lot dont leave...would like to have a more mature player base, but we all know that wont happen.
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Rift won't be a wow killer but out of all the other wow killers rift is in pretty good shape in beta probably one of the best since wow. Like someone already said I'm just pointing out what blizzard does.. We will probably see some new things on the blizzard store as well for you to buy.
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Dums posted:
jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Oh, come on. Ever since wow came out there's been a handful of 'wow killers' and it's never changed anything (and they all failed pretty massively, too).
Really? You honestly think Blizzard would do nothing to provide incentives NOT to leave for Rift? Done right, they won't even have to expend much engineering effort. Of course, considering Blizzard will never tell us what they do when new competitors are gearing up for release, your position is secure. That whole "proving a negative" thing... 
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Kriegprojekt posted:
Broken_Kayfabe posted:
jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Maybe, but in the end Blizzard fanboys will not leave WoW no matter what is offered as an alternative. It was true right from beta until now, it's not changing.
Yeah. I really dont see a drastic drop in numbers when Rift comes out. A bunch will leave, but it wont make anyone at Blizz cringe in fear that WoW will be dying anytime soon.
The last thing I want honestly is a lot of WoW players moving over to Rift (even though yes, I am one of them). Why? The reason I'm sick of WoW in large part is the 'community' [cough][cough]. The level of childlike behavior, rudeness, crassness, 'me! me! me!' attitude, makes me frickin hate it now. And in the PvP battlegrounds (where I use spend most of my game time), these days 1/3 are afk or otherwise botting, 1/3 are just completely clueless morons or intentional asshats, and maybe 1/3 are decent players trying to win.
I miss the days of early mmos like EQ or DAOC where the community was much smaller, tighter, and people's online reps actually counted for something. Hell, I remember a player so well liked by the EQ community, people literally logged on to form an kind of honor guard line as a send off when he decided to leave the game. Sunmoon, if anyone here remembers.
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slythetove posted:
I'm in the dungeon finder last night on my 84 mage.
Group pops, I zone into Stonecore. We are all right at the beginning not a single mob is dead, so this is a brand new dungeon.
Two of the players start saying "kick me kick me kick me" in party chat.
The first vote comes up, I hit no, but it passes. The second vote comes up I hit no and now it can't pass.
The other two guys then realize "hey yeah wtf" and they won't vote kick any more either. So this guy is cussing us out, and raging that we won't kick him. I just put him on ignore and go continue questing for about 20 minutes until he finally drops.
Look, I dunno what he was trying to do, but I'm not going to help him since he's wasting my time. I am going to force him to waste his.
Now... what exactly were these 2 trying to accomplish besides wasting 3 random strangers time? Anyone know? I don't get it.
--Sly
I think the funny thing is, it's apparently the first boss in the heroic version of Stonecore that everyone hates. Doesn't make any sense why someone wouldn't want to do the regular version, which is apparently pretty easy.
Don't know though since after 3+ years of WoW, I wouldn't ever pug again in an MMO. It also makes me sad considering how much fun I had pugging in CoH and meeting new people.
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Broken_Kayfabe posted:
jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Maybe, but in the end Blizzard fanboys will not leave WoW no matter what is offered as an alternative. It was true right from beta until now, it's not changing.
That's what people said about SWG fanbois. But SOE finally managed to make even them mad! It was quite a feat imo. (What was the name of the combat change? I forget... NGE?)
Blizzard is attempting the same thing imo. We'll see how successful they are.
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Ferrydust posted:
Broken_Kayfabe posted:
jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Maybe, but in the end Blizzard fanboys will not leave WoW no matter what is offered as an alternative. It was true right from beta until now, it's not changing.
That's what people said about SWG fanbois. But SOE finally managed to make even them mad! It was quite a feat imo. (What was the name of the combat change? I forget... NGE?)
Blizzard is attempting the same thing imo. We'll see how successful they are.
There were actually 2 major revamps to SWG. The first was the CU, which actually wasn't that big, or that bad, but still much bigger than anything WoW has done, unless you combine EVERYTHING WoW has done to date.
The other was the NGE. The vaunted "New Game Experience", and the reason why Smedley needs to be bus shocked. He single handedly killed that game. Yeah, it's still running, but last I heard they were running on fewer than 5k subscribers, but this is only rumor. That's active subscribers, not revenues garnered by the Station Pass, which imo is the only reason that game hasn't folded yet. SW:TOR will kill it for sure. All the Star Wars fanbois (like myself) will have a different SW fix, and how could SW:TOR possibly be worse than SWG?
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darren_cameron posted:
Kriegprojekt posted:
Broken_Kayfabe posted:
[blockquote]jojo263 posted:
a week or so before rift comes out expect to see lots of changes. You know the ones that blizzard said wont happen and aren't planned.
Maybe, but in the end Blizzard fanboys will not leave WoW no matter what is offered as an alternative. It was true right from beta until now, it's not changing.
Yeah. I really dont see a drastic drop in numbers when Rift comes out. A bunch will leave, but it wont make anyone at Blizz cringe in fear that WoW will be dying anytime soon.
The last thing I want honestly is a lot of WoW players moving over to Rift (even though yes, I am one of them). Why? The reason I'm sick of WoW in large part is the 'community' [cough][cough]. The level of childlike behavior, rudeness, crassness, 'me! me! me!' attitude, makes me frickin hate it now. And in the PvP battlegrounds (where I use spend most of my game time), these days 1/3 are afk or otherwise botting, 1/3 are just completely clueless morons or intentional asshats, and maybe 1/3 are decent players trying to win.
I miss the days of early mmos like EQ or DAOC where the community was much smaller, tighter, and people's online reps actually counted for something. Hell, I remember a player so well liked by the EQ community, people literally logged on to form an kind of honor guard line as a send off when he decided to leave the game. Sunmoon, if anyone here remembers.
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The_Korrigan posted:
Yeah he was just trying to avoid the debuff, wasting your time in the process.
I'd have done the same than you - at least HE got annoyed too.
Typical PUG idiot.
I thought you didn't pug ?
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