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When I attempted to log in tonight, I found the "Account locked for suspicious activity" message. It seems I've been infiltrated somehow.
I remember reading a thread here a couple months ago that seemed pretty compelling in favour of someone inside Blizzard possibly hacking into accounts.
Here's what I can tell you:
1) I absolutely do not have a keylogger. I do not have an account authenticator. I have never ever shared my account with anyone, nor even given anyone access or the password. I can guarentee all of those things.
2) I have run both virus and malware scans, both of which resulted in 0 problems. I always use Firefox with both adblock and noscript, and have since my last reformat six-ish months ago. I have not downloaded anything other than porn vids and pics over the few days. (I'm sure someone will come here and say I've missed something, but I'm quite careful about what gets on to my computer.)
3) My password was pretty strong, letters and numbers, and longer. I have not had any problems with any other accounts I log in to (email, facebook, etc.) I did change my email password to a much stronger one just to be sure.
4) My account was cancelled less than 2 weeks ago. I recently went to confirm that cancellation 3 days ago. My access is set to expire on the 20th. I haven't logged in since 2 nights ago, when I played only for a short time before logging out again. None of my characters had a guild, if that's relevent.
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I find I actually don't care much that my level 85 protadin was deleted upon regaining access. My 80 mage was stripped naked too. Surely they can restore my account to a point before 3 days ago. But I'm really not sure how it is that my account was accessed outside of a straight brute force on my password/account.
I don't actually believe that someone at Blizzard is responsible, but having eliminated pretty much every other potential avenue (again, outside of a random brute force hack) I can't really see how someone got in.
You can also just spare me the authenticator lecture. I don't actually care about my stuffz enough to go out and get one of these things. I keep my computer secure enough that I feel safe without one.
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Bored and trolling I take it? You admit to one of the more common malware vectors (porn downloads) and then claim to be careful about what gets on your computer. You claim to have a strong password when WOW passwords aren't even case-sensitive. Get a better hook if you wan't to do some trolling. 
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I don`t know whats with the trolling accussion, but anyways. 
It is already bad enough that your email addy is the acc name. I haven`t figured yet if it is possible to make a seperate name instead of that stupid emailaddy.
Pretty much killing half the job for the hackers, if I am not seeing things wrong.
Unfortunately there is no 100% protection but the thoughts of some Blizz dude doing stuff is not far-fetched. Probably some mole like in "24" ;P
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You were just compromised in some way and haven't discovered it. It's great that you're security conscious, and that the scans turned up nothing, but obviously something happened. A scanner is only as good as its definitions and signatures, and they're reactive not proactive.
Just go through the motions and work on getting your assets recovered. If there is some grand conspiracy at play and some well compensated Blizzard employee has found some need to hack accounts to, I don't know, feed their crack habit, there's nothing you can do. So just go the normal route.
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Eternal_Midnight posted:
I have not downloaded anything other than porn vids and pics over the few days.
Ooh, nice try!
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I love how people MUST blame someone else for their stupidity.
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I do not have an account authenticator.
Today you really need to have authenticator on your account even if you cancel your sub as they will prey on dormant accounts.
I know mine was dormant for a little over a year, almost immediately after canceling my sub I got fake e-mails regarding it in one form or another on a constant basis, after I re-uped when Wrath came out they pretty much stopped.
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Well played, good sir.
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What with all the insider information that pops up on WikiLeaks I don't think any intelligent person could rule out the possibility that some Blizz or ATT employee since they maintain the servers may be the source.
But who cares hacked is hacked although I don't think having your information given out would be considered to be hacked it would be more of a compromised situation.
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Why has nobody noticed that the authenticators are made in.. <drum roll> China! I bet some Blizzard employee has cut a deal with not only a Chinese gold farming racket, but also the Chinese manufacturers of the authenticators! Heck, the two Chinese companies could be one and the same!
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Eternal_Midnight posted:
You can also just spare me the authenticator lecture. I don't actually care about my stuffz enough to go out and get one of these things. I keep my computer secure enough that I feel safe without one.
I always like this part.
Its weird how the guy that gets hacked never actually cares about the stuff. ...and continues to tell everyone how secure his PC is.
This same post has been written countless times.. it HAS to be a troll!
PS. sorry you got hacked. 
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RF_YWG posted:
Why has nobody noticed that the authenticators are made in.. <drum roll> China! I bet some Blizzard employee has cut a deal with not only a Chinese gold farming racket, but also the Chinese manufacturers of the authenticators! Heck, the two Chinese companies could be one and the same!
Seriously!
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_Warlucky_ posted:
What with all the insider information that pops up on WikiLeaks I don't think any intelligent person could rule out the possibility that some Blizz or ATT employee since they maintain the servers may be the source.
But who cares hacked is hacked although I don't think having your information given out would be considered to be hacked it would be more of a compromised situation.
Hahahaha! Oh..... you were serious? Wow.
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Fedup23 posted:
I always like this part.
Its weird how the guy that gets hacked never actually cares about the stuff. ...and continues to tell everyone how secure his PC is.
This same post has been written countless times.. it HAS to be a troll!
PS. sorry you got hacked.
I really don't care about my stuff. I already cancelled, due to end this friday. My computer is not particularly secure, but I am secure and know how to navigate the internet without getting infected. The first virus scan in 6 months turned up 0 problems. And I still won't buy an authenticator. I've always felt that they were for people who were incapable of protecting their account on their own.
If there is something on my computer that compromised me, it's buried pretty deep and got there somehow without myself or my system knowing. It seems unlikely to me that some sort of keylogger for WoW would be that resiliant, but I'll always entertain the possibility. I could see a keylogger in general to get all my passwords, but it's only my WoW account that was compromised.
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Eternal_Midnight posted:
Fedup23 posted:
I always like this part.
Its weird how the guy that gets hacked never actually cares about the stuff. ...and continues to tell everyone how secure his PC is.
This same post has been written countless times.. it HAS to be a troll!
PS. sorry you got hacked.
I really don't care about my stuff. I already cancelled, due to end this friday. My computer is not particularly secure, but I am secure and know how to navigate the internet without getting infected. The first virus scan in 6 months turned up 0 problems. And I still won't buy an authenticator. I've always felt that they were for people who were incapable of protecting their account on their own.
If there is something on my computer that compromised me, it's buried pretty deep and got there somehow without myself or my system knowing. It seems unlikely to me that some sort of keylogger for WoW would be that resiliant, but I'll always entertain the possibility. I could see a keylogger in general to get all my passwords, but it's only my WoW account that was compromised.
Well, you now fall into that catagory since you got hacked . . .
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NukeMage posted:
Well, you now fall into that catagory since you got hacked . . .
P.S.
Free porn is never free
Don't be stupid. Small video files that don't access my computer files in any way (because, you know, Windows 7 notifies you when this happens) have a pretty hard time containing and installing WoW keyloggers.
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Eternal_Midnight posted:
I really don't care about my stuff. I already cancelled, due to end this friday. My computer is not particularly secure, but I am secure and know how to navigate the internet without getting infected. The first virus scan in 6 months turned up 0 problems. And I still won't buy an authenticator. I've always felt that they were for people who were incapable of protecting their account on their own.
If there is something on my computer that compromised me, it's buried pretty deep and got there somehow without myself or my system knowing. It seems unlikely to me that some sort of keylogger for WoW would be that resiliant, but I'll always entertain the possibility. I could see a keylogger in general to get all my passwords, but it's only my WoW account that was compromised.
I think my brain is melting..
You say that your PC is not particularly secure. Then you say you wont buy an authenticator because its for people who dont know how to keep their account secure. You just said your PC isnt particularly secure!! ..AND you got hacked!. 
Then you say that if you have a security compromise, it got there without you or your system knowing it. .. WTH! Of course it did!!!.. thats how they get there!!! What do you think they do.. have a popup screen asking you if you would like to install this keylogger!!?? They get there without you knowing it.. its what they DO!! its ALL THEY DO! (terminator) 
Anyhow.. I am glad you dont care.. everyone wins.. the hacker, you and Blizz because they dont have to restore your account if you dont care.
PS.. The account stealer doesnt want your bank/credit card info.. there is a huge leap from taking virtual gold from a video game to international bank fraud. Its hard to understand why most people dont understand this concept. (" If my PC was compromised, why didnt they clean out my 401k too!?"  )
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NM.. this HAS to be a trolling post. I am sorry I got suckered! 
You win this round miscreant!
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Yes, I am an idiot for not knowing the size of the porn files you were downloading and what OS you are running . .
Then again, I have yet to be hacked or had an account compromised in over 10 years of playing MMORPG's . . I am definitely the idiot here!
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Fedup23 posted:
I think my brain is melting..
You say that your PC is not particularly secure. Then you say you wont buy an authenticator because its for people who dont know how to keep their account secure. You just said your PC isnt particularly secure!! ..AND you got hacked!.
If you would like to believe that I'm trolling you, or that it's my fault, go right ahead man. I've played your role in this type of thread many times, so I understand. Believe whatever you need to in order to get through your day.
You may not believe that it is possible for people to be online and be intelligent about the most common potential threats, but it is. I'm not saying there is 100% absolutely no chance there is something on my computer, but it's pretty unlikely. Outside of idle speculation, I don't believe that there is any evidence of a simple WoW keylogger being resilient enough to avoid multiple virus scanners. Maybe you know different.
You obviously know more about this stuff than I do, so perhaps you could suggest the ways that my account could have been compromised. Maybe I missed something (which is kind of why I posted this thread).
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Then again, I have yet to be hacked or had an account compromised in over 10 years of playing MMORPG's . . I am definitely the idiot here!
Oh god this statement is so funny. Because until 12 hours ago, I could have said exactly the same thing. I made it Dec 99 to Jan 11.
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RF_YWG posted:
Why has nobody noticed that the authenticators are made in.. <drum roll> China! I bet some Blizzard employee has cut a deal with not only a Chinese gold farming racket, but also the Chinese manufacturers of the authenticators! Heck, the two Chinese companies could be one and the same!
Seriously!
The interweb has destroyed the brain of yet another youth...
I've missed an obvious joke now and then, but wow.
edit: Thanks for thinking I'm a youth though. I felt a little old and creaky this morning.
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It's not the video that gets you, it's the codec or codec installer that gets you.
How often do you change your wow password? (have you ever changed it) ?
You could have had a key logger MONTHS ago and the theives are just now getting around to your account.
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Reposting this from august....
http://www.esecurityplanet.com/patches/article.php/3897821/Microsoft-Big-Patch-Tuesday-for-IT-Administrators.htm
Microsoft issued one of its largest collections of security fixes ever on Tuesday, releasing a total of 14 patches that secure 34 vulnerabilities, most primarily in Windows, but also a couple in the Office productivity applications.
from further down...
High on the list of holes that Microsoft suggests plugging first is one that can completely compromise systems running Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3), XP Professional x64 SP2 and both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Windows Server 2003 SP2. The Flaw involves how Microsoft's DirectShow MP3 filter processes supported files. All a user would need to do in order to be sideswiped by a "drive-by download" that takes over his or her PC is visit a site that hosts a malicious media file.
Who knows how long these "holes" existed and were exploited before they were finally caught.
Just an example of how one can pick up a malicious file and never know it, never have it show on a virus scan, and still think they are secure.
This is why you need an authenticator.
You as a user can do everything right, and still get infected because of some "hole" that has not been discovered, patched, and filled; either in your OS, browser, or any flash type software.
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This is why you need an authenticator.
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I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who gets hacked when they don't own an authenticator. Don't order the 2 for $6 teen burgers at lunch. Take the money you saved and buy an authenticator.
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EM, how much gold was on your account?
I'm kind of siding with EM here. Just curious.
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Eternal_Midnight posted:
When I attempted to log in tonight, I found the "Account locked for suspicious activity" message. It seems I've been infiltrated somehow.
I remember reading a thread here a couple months ago that seemed pretty compelling in favour of someone inside Blizzard possibly hacking into accounts.
Here's what I can tell you:
1) I absolutely do not have a keylogger. I do not have an account authenticator. I have never ever shared my account with anyone, nor even given anyone access or the password. I can guarentee all of those things.
2) I have run both virus and malware scans, both of which resulted in 0 problems. I always use Firefox with both adblock and noscript, and have since my last reformat six-ish months ago. I have not downloaded anything other than porn vids and pics over the few days.
Troll or not..I stopped reading there.
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Well my account has been fully restored now. Character back in place, seems like everything that should be there is there.
I certainly wasn't looking for any one to feel sorry for me, and you should perhaps re-evaluate your e-importance. I'm genuinely unsure of what happened here and how it could have happened.
On the character deleted I had about 3100g. My 80 mage honestly had less than 5g on her, which Blizzard restored. I tend to spend when I want something.
As far as a 'driveby download' goes, that's also pretty unlikely. Again, my windows 7 is up to date automatically, and I use Firefox + Adblock + No-script (which prevents such downloads). Unless a 'trusted' site had some malicious code, there are not many ways to covertly get code such a keylogger onto my computer.
I use addons, but all were installed manually from Curse. I do not have the curse agent or any other monitoring tools active when I run WoW.
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No offense but the theory that Blizzard employees would access your account information so they could steal your gold is pretty stupid.
First of all, if an employee with access to your account information wanted to make some money they'd just steal your credit card information, not your pretend money.
Second, accessing your account information and then your account is going to leave footprints in their system. When you call to complain it would be pretty easy for them to figure out if an employee was behind it. Your little bit of fake money isn't worth getting canned over.
Finally, if a Blizzard employee was so desperate to get their hands on some gold couldn't they just spawn it?
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Authenticator - $6.50 .. give or take. Or free if you have a smartphone. Why not just get one and get it out of the way..
Besides, the authenticator is practically free, the $6 bucks pays for shipping pretty much.
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They can't, in a recent interview they said they have to play just like us, no free gold or loot.
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One more person who knows just barely enough about the interwebs to convince himself that no attack will sneak by his expert browsing.
Personally, and this is just my opinion- I would sooner believe that your internet security expertise is a bit less than you implied before I believed some peon at Blizzard decided to risk his job by selling account info and managing to do so without leaving any digital fingerprints.
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I've never understood the stance of "I don't care enough to get an authenticator." If you care enough to play the game which costs $15 a month, why not pay an extra half month for peace of mind and keeping your stuff safe?
Personally I think Blizzard should have included an authenticator in every box. It's a little greedy on their part to not offer it considering all the account hackings, but oh well.
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I don't use an authenticator. I would rather know that my computer is compromised because I use it for far more important things than playing an online game. In addition to the things mentioned, I also keep a count on the number of processes running. I have also gone through system services and disabled/shut down all the remote access services and sharing services, of which windows has many.
The most important part is to never click on any email sent about WoW or another MMO. Always use your own official links. I have had many emails sent to one junk email that has never been tied to wow or any other online game.
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My account was hacked when I took my last hiatus from WoW. I am the ultimate computer security maniac . I know for a fact that a virus or keylogger has never infected my machine. I browse the web in a VM that has its own AV software. I scan outside of windows, which pretty much guarantee's that a virus can't hide. Of course I use one of the better AV packages( avast) out there in windows as well. If my machine had been infected these cracker jacks would have had access to options that are much more lucrative than a buck per 100 gold.
No my machines are mr squeaky clean.
Is someone at Blizzard behind it? Its a possibility that an $8.00 an hour customer service rep might be involved. Of course no one has ever said it was officially endorsed.
Brute force is a possibility since it seems that Blizzard has no account lockout setup on these accounts.
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Foojo posted:
I don't use an authenticator. I would rather know that my computer is compromised because I use it for far more important things than playing an online game.
Lol, there's the kind of logic I have grown accustomed to from these boards!
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siujoey posted:
Foojo posted:
I don't use an authenticator. I would rather know that my computer is compromised because I use it for far more important things than playing an online game.
Lol, there's the kind of logic I have grown accustomed to from these boards!
Glad to keep you happy.
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Jenna Jamison hacked my WoW account......
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No Authenticator because you don't care?
If you don't have an authenticator I don't care that you got hacked.
If you don't care you got hacked, and I don't care you got hacked... then...
oh right,
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Skimmed the post, get an authenticator. Double factor authentication is what you need, especially if you're downloading porn.
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Grimlik posted:
My account was hacked when I took my last hiatus from WoW. I am the ultimate computer security maniac . I know for a fact that a virus or keylogger has never infected my machine. I browse the web in a VM that has its own AV software. I scan outside of windows, which pretty much guarantee's that a virus can't hide. Of course I use one of the better AV packages( avast) out there in windows as well. If my machine had been infected these cracker jacks would have had access to options that are much more lucrative than a buck per 100 gold.
No my machines are mr squeaky clean.
Is someone at Blizzard behind it? Its a possibility that an $8.00 an hour customer service rep might be involved. Of course no one has ever said it was officially endorsed.
Brute force is a possibility since it seems that Blizzard has no account lockout setup on these accounts.
As I said in my previous post, just as soon as I canceled my sub I started getting a plethora of fake e-mails trying to get my information in one form or another after I re-uped it they all but stopped. So if there is anything to inside jobs it would be the selling lists of accounts with canceled sub's. Either that or there is a way to see if your account is active or not with the e-mail attached to it publicly which would be stupid on Blizz's part.
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Sociop posted:
Grimlik posted:
My account was hacked when I took my last hiatus from WoW. I am the ultimate computer security maniac . I know for a fact that a virus or keylogger has never infected my machine. I browse the web in a VM that has its own AV software. I scan outside of windows, which pretty much guarantee's that a virus can't hide. Of course I use one of the better AV packages( avast) out there in windows as well. If my machine had been infected these cracker jacks would have had access to options that are much more lucrative than a buck per 100 gold.
No my machines are mr squeaky clean.
Is someone at Blizzard behind it? Its a possibility that an $8.00 an hour customer service rep might be involved. Of course no one has ever said it was officially endorsed.
Brute force is a possibility since it seems that Blizzard has no account lockout setup on these accounts.
As I said in my previous post, just as soon as I canceled my sub I started getting a plethora of fake e-mails trying to get my information in one form or another after I re-uped it they all but stopped. So if there is anything to inside jobs it would be the selling lists of accounts with canceled sub's. Either that or there is a way to see if your account is active or not with the e-mail attached to it publicly which would be stupid on Blizz's part.
You just can't reason with this level of stupid.
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siujoey posted:
Sociop posted:
Grimlik posted:
My account was hacked when I took my last hiatus from WoW. I am the ultimate computer security maniac . I know for a fact that a virus or keylogger has never infected my machine. I browse the web in a VM that has its own AV software. I scan outside of windows, which pretty much guarantee's that a virus can't hide. Of course I use one of the better AV packages( avast) out there in windows as well. If my machine had been infected these cracker jacks would have had access to options that are much more lucrative than a buck per 100 gold.
No my machines are mr squeaky clean.
Is someone at Blizzard behind it? Its a possibility that an $8.00 an hour customer service rep might be involved. Of course no one has ever said it was officially endorsed.
Brute force is a possibility since it seems that Blizzard has no account lockout setup on these accounts.
As I said in my previous post, just as soon as I canceled my sub I started getting a plethora of fake e-mails trying to get my information in one form or another after I re-uped it they all but stopped. So if there is anything to inside jobs it would be the selling lists of accounts with canceled sub's. Either that or there is a way to see if your account is active or not with the e-mail attached to it publicly which would be stupid on Blizz's part.
You just can't reason with this level of stupid.
Is that your roundabout way of saying there is an easy way to find out if ones account is active or not and the e-mail attached to it?
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No, it's my roundabout way of saying that the notion of Blizz selling account info is hilarious. And the idea of rogue Blizz employees selling account info on a scale large enough for people on these boards to take notice is even funnier.
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No, it's my roundabout way of saying that the notion of Blizz selling account info is hilarious. And the idea of rogue Blizz employees selling account info on a scale large enough for people on these boards to take notice is even funnier.
If you do not think there isn't a chance a few blizz employees get some spare cash on the side from gold sites your hilarious yourself.Almost all companies have a few bad/.dirty employees look at government where we have ppl selling US secrets to other countries you really think a blizzard employee would be above making extra cash on the side in a game? get real.I do not think it is done on a wide scale but I 1000% think it has and is done.
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And the idea of rogue Blizz employees selling account info on a scale large enough for people on these boards to take notice is even funnier.
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croaks35 posted:
siujoey posted:
No, it's my roundabout way of saying that the notion of Blizz selling account info is hilarious. And the idea of rogue Blizz employees selling account info on a scale large enough for people on these boards to take notice is even funnier.
If you do not think there isn't a chance a few blizz employees get some spare cash on the side from gold sites your hilarious yourself.Almost all companies have a few bad/.dirty employees look at government where we have ppl selling US secrets to other countries you really think a blizzard employee would be above making extra cash on the side in a game? get real.I do not think it is done on a wide scale but I 1000% think it has and is done.
just from the sheer volume of wow, the number of employees they must have, accts and players, i would be willing to bet there is an entire subculture of wow employees that engage in nefarious activities related to making money from their access.
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You'd have to pretty much be a complete moron to think it is just totally out of the realm of possibility that a disgruntled blizzard employee could be selling account info.
You can (and currently would have to) make the assertion that no one knows for sure, but to claim that it is not possible just makes you retarded.
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You'd have to pretty much be a complete moron to think it is just totally out of the realm of possibility that a disgruntled blizzard employee could be selling account info.
You can (and currently would have to) make the assertion that no one knows for sure, but to claim that it is not possible just makes you retarded.
I think that yes.. it could happen.. but the amount it would have to be happening on a scale of users on this board that have claimed their account was stolen by Blizz vs the millions of Subs....one would have to assume we should start a Vn Boards WoW Forum lottery pool. Because this board would have to be the luckiest (unluckiest) slice of society.
...and if the trolls (lovingly) here have put 2 and 2 together....
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Fedup23 posted:
Spookysheep posted:
You'd have to pretty much be a complete moron to think it is just totally out of the realm of possibility that a disgruntled blizzard employee could be selling account info.
You can (and currently would have to) make the assertion that no one knows for sure, but to claim that it is not possible just makes you retarded.
I think that yes.. it could happen.. but the amount it would have to be happening on a scale of users on this board that have claimed their account was stolen by Blizz vs the millions of Subs....one would have to assume we should start a Vn Boards WoW Forum lottery pool. Because this board would have to be the luckiest (unluckiest) slice of society.
...and if the trolls (lovingly) here have put 2 and 2 together....
I think it would be much easier than you think, all it would take with someone with access is to do a database search on dormant accounts with e-mails attached then download a copy of the findings to a flash drive. Boom you probably have a million or more exploitable accounts to sell in with a few minutes work. Next said employee sells it to a buyer who then can turn around and sell it to others buyers to make his money back and or exploit the accounts himself. Within 24hrs you could have dozens of hacker/gold farmer organizations after a million or more accounts.
If the the employee/employees sell an updated list once a month or even once a week you would have the kind of scale that becomes noticeable by posters here.
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Ya know, for all the times I have replied to these threads with a response of "Well, you are doing something wrong, I haven't been hacked in 10yrs of gaming" I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later . .
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Bored and trolling I take it? You admit to one of the more common malware vectors (porn downloads) and then claim to be careful about what gets on your computer. You claim to have a strong password when WOW passwords aren't even case-sensitive. Get a better hook if you wan't to do some trolling.
I like this reply... because it just pointed out that I've been unnecessarily using capitalization in my blizzard passwords for about a decade.
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Ya know, for all the times I have replied to these threads with a response of "Well, you are doing something wrong, I haven't been hacked in 10yrs of gaming" I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later . .
Yep, add me to the list
D'oh! Sorry NukeMage! I went through this at the beginning of January and it is frustrating to the nth degree.
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It is ok, lesson learned and all of my stuff is already restored.
On a funny note, the "hacker" must of got mad and saw that most of my "wealth" was in the form of about 73 enchanted thorium blades and misc low level greens (aside from my equipment I was wearing) and decided to delete my toon lol.
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I think they delete the "main" so that no one on friends lists still sees the logging in and out...
Catching this once..."Friend removed because character no longer exists"... on one log-in is much less obvious than seeing:
"your buddy bob logged in"
"your buddy bob logged out"
"your buddy bob logged in"
"your buddy bob logged out"
"your buddy bob logged in"
"your buddy bob logged out"
"your buddy bob logged in"
"your buddy bob logged out"
especially when your "buddy" won't return any tells...
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A guild member got hacked yesterday and I couldn't help but think of this today as what we believe to be the hacker was on today begging for guild vault access...
Me chinese, me play joke, me hack wow account, now you're broke
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