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I want to level my warlock to 85, but the thought of going through the beginning quests again up until Deepholme for a fourth time makes me want to stab myself in the eye. Is anyone else leveling almost exclusively through DF and BGs? I wouldn't have the portals opened in SW and there would be some phasing issues from skipping quests, but would I be at a permanent disadvantage because of this? I can't think of any reason that you couldn't just skip it all and still be fine.

 

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I want to level my warlock to 85, but the thought of going through the beginning quests again up until Deepholme for a fourth time makes me want to stab myself in the eye. Is anyone else leveling almost exclusively through DF and BGs? I wouldn't have the portals opened in SW and there would be some phasing issues from skipping quests, but would I be at a permanent disadvantage because of this? I can't think of any reason that you couldn't just skip it all and still be fine.



I can think of one, it isn't how Blizzard wants you to play. Do all the quests or suffer an incomplete world. I'm right there with you, I hate questing with a passion, but that's how it is right now.

 

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Lemme know if you do! Our guild is hoping to do this with a next set of alts.

The thought of taking more than 1 alt (and I had 13 80s) through these new zones makes my stomach turn IRL. I have never been more irritated / annoyed on an ongoing basis in any game I have ever played as I'm leveling. I have narrowed my list down to 5 that the guild will really need (am flushing a lot of gatherers) and I'm trying to convince myself to just do it. Ugh.


Our guild is taking one set of 80+ alts MOSTLY through just instances, just to avoid the zones. Problem is, we need a few of us to get to the meeting stones to summon (since we are taking a core of 4, not 5 through atm.) Travel there and back so far is our only hiccup. With 5, where we could select the dungeon and go, this would not be an issue. (At 83, taking it slow and loving the instances, even doing them when we are a level lower than recommended.)

If you can deal with the delays of PuGs, (both waiting for the instance to "pop" and whatever happens inside), then it might be worth it.

We have a second set of alts (a couple of guildmates wanted to roll Worgens), that we are basically leveling in instances starting with Deadmines. Had to do a few quests to get to level 15, to get into the instance. Once there, we've run it a few times, hopped to Shadowfang (picked up weapon quests from trainers, then ran again), then Stockades. Having a blast doing just instances. Hoping to continue this trend all the way to 85.

 

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i already got to 85 on my first time through mainly dungeon finder and archaeology. it was pretty quick, although im guessing questing is even faster. however at 84 i started to do quests - because i wanted to get therazane rep and a few faction rep reward items before i got to 85. woulda defeated the point if i had to do those at 85

 

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Yeah, I am thinking I may just have to suck it up and do it. On the other hand, my mage is up to 75 now, so I have another one that is knocking on the door. So I may just experiment with the lock and see how damaging it really is so I know whether I have to suck it up and do it on my mage as well. You wouldn't get the seahorse mount, but if you aren't doing the quests there.... is it really that big of a deal?

I REALLY HATE FORCED QUESTING. Actually.... I hate questing altogether.

 

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i would recommend looking up what rewards are worthwhile and doing enough quests JUST to get those. like therazane rep, opening portals, etc. seahorse mount is not needed if u never go to vashjir anyways (no real reason to). this is what i did...the only really long quest chain is the therazane rep one. u gotta do basically every quest in deepholm for awhile. but opening portals is fast.

 

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Anyone leveling to 85 with minimal questing?



I hit 85 with minimal question on my DK: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/the-scryers/failgnome/simple

I herbed and mined the majority of it. I did do some quests and instance runs to get into deepholm then a couple guild instance runs but the rest was herbing and mining.

 

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Subject: Anyone leveling to 85 with minimal questing?
I agree on Deepholm, not my favorite either. Hyjal was fun, but I like questing. I skipped Vash almost completely and didn't have any trouble running out of quests before 85, did almost zero dungeons.

I noticed a fair amount of XP gain from BGs on my level 72 DK, Don't know how that translates to 80+ characters.

 

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weird i thought deepholm was the best zone of them all! its the only one i did a lot of quests in and i liked it...especially that airship

 

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Guildie of mine got to like 84 on her priest doing nothing but archaeology.

 

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Several in my guild alts to 85 by archeology and mining/herbalism.

Or so they claim, and I have no reason to doubt them.

 

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People hate grinding, and now people hate questing... How the hell do you want to level then?

 

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Archeology is the only reason I'm ever going to hit 85 (almost 83) now. I was at over 60 days played to reach 75. Been doing archeology a little every day since cata released (on about 8 characters) and I'll probably hit 83 today on the highest one. It's boring as hell but I just do the archeology on one computer and play some other game on another. Almost back to EQ1 days when I played another game while meditating on my shamen between fights. tongue

 

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Subject: Anyone leveling to 85 with minimal questing?
I would love to get some of my alts up to max level but I just can't stomach levels 50-80. Just knowing that at level 50 that in 10 more levels I will be stuck in Outland until 70 does not really excite me all that much. That and I just don't have that much time to level up alts either.

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weird i thought deepholm was the best zone of them all! its the only one i did a lot of quests in and i liked it...especially that airship


Ugh, Deepholm is awful. Vash and Uldum are the best of the new zones so far. I am working through Twilight Highlands right now.

 

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People hate grinding, and now people hate questing... How the hell do you want to level then?


Nope, I'm weird. I actually like what other people would consider "grinding". I actually enjoy running the same instances over and over. Different makeups with different groups, different people, I dunno- I think it is fun.

When I played AC, my favorite thing to do was go into the middle of (I forget the name of the place around Ayan Baqur) and just kill mobs for hours. Although I will admit it was partly because the loot system was far superior/dynamic and I loved that each kill was like pulling the arm on a slot machine.

Anyway, there is no bigger grind that questing as far as I am concerned. If WoW's loot system was comparable to AC, I would level by doing nothing but running around the new areas killing mobs. Closest I can get to that is the DF and random BGs, so that's what I do.

 

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I would love to get some of my alts up to max level but I just can't stomach levels 50-80. Just knowing that at level 50 that in 10 more levels I will be stuck in Outland until 70 does not really excite me all that much. That and I just don't have that much time to level up alts either.


If you like BGs, I would suggest leveling 50-80 that way. The amount of xp you get from BGs now is crazy. I recently took my mage from 25-75, and about 80% of the xp came from BGs. In the lower levels, he would level in about 3 wins.

 

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siujoey posted:
RyanR100 posted:
I would love to get some of my alts up to max level but I just can't stomach levels 50-80. Just knowing that at level 50 that in 10 more levels I will be stuck in Outland until 70 does not really excite me all that much. That and I just don't have that much time to level up alts either.


If you like BGs, I would suggest leveling 50-80 that way. The amount of xp you get from BGs now is crazy. I recently took my mage from 25-75, and about 80% of the xp came from BGs. In the lower levels, he would level in about 3 wins.
When I left, there were quests for the BG call to arms, that you had to get/turn-in between every BG run. Do these not exist anymore? I noticed that certain BG's are still worth more on certain days, like the CTA, but I didn't see any associated ?'s over any of the NPCs.

 

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Spookysheep posted:
Several in my guild alts to 85 by archeology and mining/herbalism.

Or so they claim, and I have no reason to doubt them.



Got to 82 on one of my alts just mining / archeology. At level 82, finishing 2 surveys (loot the object) nets 1% of a level. So with 3 surveys per zone x 4 zones per continent, that's 6% of a level per continent (at best). Rinse/repeat. It's very doable, and tedious. Plus travel time (luckily it's a pally with speed + fast flight).



 

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Talehon69 posted:
People hate grinding, and now people hate questing... How the hell do you want to level then?



I want to be able to quest in an open world again, with more choices, an expansive view of the world that looks like a world with recognizable landmarks (not wallpaper cut-and-paste repeats), without feeling cramped/funneled/forced and an epic overall story arc. Yanno, kinda the way it was before. <cough>

I want the kind of leveling experience in 1-60 when the world felt fresh and people talked about how fun it was.

I want the kind of leveling experience in 60-80 where it was a whole new world, or whole new continent to explore.

Where I have more choices in my experience.

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Cryme posted:
siujoey posted:
RyanR100 posted:
I would love to get some of my alts up to max level but I just can't stomach levels 50-80. Just knowing that at level 50 that in 10 more levels I will be stuck in Outland until 70 does not really excite me all that much. That and I just don't have that much time to level up alts either.


If you like BGs, I would suggest leveling 50-80 that way. The amount of xp you get from BGs now is crazy. I recently took my mage from 25-75, and about 80% of the xp came from BGs. In the lower levels, he would level in about 3 wins.
When I left, there were quests for the BG call to arms, that you had to get/turn-in between every BG run. Do these not exist anymore? I noticed that certain BG's are still worth more on certain days, like the CTA, but I didn't see any associated ?'s over any of the NPCs.


No real quests any more, except for the kind like the original AB quest you picked up where you had to capture all the areas the first time. Other than that, I will do the random until I win one, then do the CTA BG as long as it isn't Isle of Crapquest.

@Auen- that's true, I never hated questing as ferociously until I felt forced into it. But that's just me- if I feel like I HAVE to do it, I will be happy about doing it.

 

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You have to actually fly out to the cat instances if you want to do those.

If you want rep in any of the new factions you have to get at least friendly to get the tabard.

Some crafting recipies you need rep for.

Other then that there is no reason to quest unless you enjoy it.

 

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Did half of Vash, 1/4 hyjal, and enough in the other zones to open all the portals. All the rest was Arch and DF.

 

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One of my guildmates is leveling her character via mining and the occasional mob around the nodes. Shes currently at 83.

 

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My warrior is 85 now and hardly quested at all. I did some dailies (cooking / fishing), a lot of RDF, and mining and PvP. It was a nice change of pace for leveling, almost like old school MMOs but not in that grind your face off and die inside kind of way (the no themepark progression way). Now it sucks being out of phase with everything yea.

 

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Yeah, I am thinking I may just have to suck it up and do it. On the other hand, my mage is up to 75 now, so I have another one that is knocking on the door. So I may just experiment with the lock and see how damaging it really is so I know whether I have to suck it up and do it on my mage as well. You wouldn't get the seahorse mount, but if you aren't doing the quests there.... is it really that big of a deal?

I REALLY HATE FORCED QUESTING. Actually.... I hate questing altogether.
If you're talking about the whole 'led around by the nose' bit...tough as it is and can be to swallow, I feel they are really trying to push the 'story' I think they want people to focus on that. We have two years of patching coming..it has to be for something.

 

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Yeah, I am thinking I may just have to suck it up and do it. On the other hand, my mage is up to 75 now, so I have another one that is knocking on the door. So I may just experiment with the lock and see how damaging it really is so I know whether I have to suck it up and do it on my mage as well. You wouldn't get the seahorse mount, but if you aren't doing the quests there.... is it really that big of a deal?

I REALLY HATE FORCED QUESTING. Actually.... I hate questing altogether.
If you're talking about the whole 'led around by the nose' bit...tough as it is and can be to swallow, I feel they are really trying to push the 'story' I think they want people to focus on that. We have two years of patching coming..it has to be for something.


And having a story is great (for many people) the first time thru. But for every alt the story just isn't good enough to re-read every few days/weeks/months depending on your personal leveling speed.

 

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Questing nets rep, which could be gained from running instances later, but the problem is that half the zones change when you quest in them now, due to the overuse of phasing. You kind of have to "unlock" each zone by questing through it.

Look how Hyjal changes after you've finished the story arc.

 

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I want to level my warlock to 85, but the thought of going through the beginning quests again up until Deepholme for a fourth time makes me want to stab myself in the eye. Is anyone else leveling almost exclusively through DF and BGs? I wouldn't have the portals opened in SW and there would be some phasing issues from skipping quests, but would I be at a permanent disadvantage because of this? I can't think of any reason that you couldn't just skip it all and still be fine.



If I didn't enjoy a game, I couldn't imagine just sitting there grinding away just to hit the level cap and grind some more. You need a new hobby you enjoy.

 

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83.5 so far from BGs pretty slow not gonna lie

 

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I want to level my warlock to 85, but the thought of going through the beginning quests again up until Deepholme for a fourth time makes me want to stab myself in the eye. Is anyone else leveling almost exclusively through DF and BGs? I wouldn't have the portals opened in SW and there would be some phasing issues from skipping quests, but would I be at a permanent disadvantage because of this? I can't think of any reason that you couldn't just skip it all and still be fine.



If I didn't enjoy a game, I couldn't imagine just sitting there grinding away just to hit the level cap and grind some more. You need a new hobby you enjoy.


I don't remember saying I didn't like the game? I don't like questing. I like dungeons and BGs. I don't get to play as much as I would like, so when I do- I want to kill things. I want action. I do not want to run virtual errands for NPCs. And I CERTAINLY don't want to feel like I HAVE to run virtual errands for pixel-people. My question was: if I skip the parts I don't like and only do what I find fun- how screwed am I? And thanks for all the responses.

Sounds like I will have to do at least as much as necessary to unlock the portals for phasing reasons. Thanks Elmador, that was what I was looking for.

And to Indrid's point, I could not possibly care less about the story. I know most people dig it and read the lore and whatnot, but I am just here to kill things. Honestly, I have been playing this game for years and I have no clue how any of the characters are related to each other. It's not my thing, so that's just one more reason I hate that I am forced into questing to move along a story that I don't care about anyway.

 

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