http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1232869 posted:

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Tol Barad

* Winning as an attacker now rewards players with 1800 Honor Points, up from 180. Winning as a defender still rewards players with 180 Honor Points.

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Sociop posted:

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1800 points is great but just how often is anyone going to collect on it?

That would be not very, heck Blizz could offer 10,000 points and not have to worry about it being collected enough to matter.

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vn_cuch posted:

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I can only imagine the "arranged" losses just to ensure there is changing of hands at least once per day for each side...

"no no, don't defend, we want them to win, so we can win in 2 hours".....

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Critsftw posted:

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People still care about honor? I assumed everyone was done with the honor grind by now

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Critsftw posted:

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Hordies outta consider trying out the Alliance life. Full honor gear + honor capped in a week or less doing pure pug random bgs

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Igthorn posted:

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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1232869 posted:

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Tol Barad

* Winning as an attacker now rewards players with 1800 Honor Points, up from 180. Winning as a defender still rewards players with 180 Honor Points.

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Can't fix TB? Not a problem, let's just give them an incentive to lose.

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Shenron_ posted:

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anyone confirm is the 1800 for a win is working in game now? i tried queueing once today as alliance and got in the queue...never got in before it ended. never happened before.

wondering if its worth actually planning my play time around when the matches start so i can get in one to reap the rewards.

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Shenron_ posted:

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i think the fact that you get such a huge amount of honor for doing nothing, and can do it several times a day, is the worst part. really cheapens the game when it takes some people days of battlegrounds to get 1800 then others can get it in less than 5 minutes. but still i want to be one of those people!

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Shenron_ posted:

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bump incase anyone has any tips on how to get into the battle, like queueing from a specific spot or being inside the area when it starts, etc. guess i'll try it anyway but would be nice to know

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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According to Bashiok Blizzard is now aware that most servers are now just win trading for points. They don't have any solution to it right now, of course.

Another fail for the fanboy favorite Ghostcrawler.

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Sociop posted:

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Not only that, but due to the huge point rewards players have figured out how easy it is to obtain PVP armor, skip normal dungeons and go straight to Heroics with a few pieces of it.

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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Another fail for the fanboy favorite Ghostcrawler.

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Igthorn posted:

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Sociop posted:

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1800 points is great but just how often is anyone going to collect on it?

That would be not very, heck Blizz could offer 10,000 points and not have to worry about it being collected enough to matter.

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The defending side will want to lose so they can attack next round. No one will want to win while defending. TB will constantly change hands.

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Trigeminal posted:

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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Another fail for the fanboy favorite Ghostcrawler.

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Be careful. I said something about GC a week or two ago and was swamped with his buddies defending him here. It is hard to tell GC pals from regular people. They look just like us...

As for TB, people are trying to squeeze onto the bridge just as the round ends so they can get the 1800 honor even though they aren't part of the round. Brilliant design.

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Trigeminal posted:

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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Another fail for the fanboy favorite Ghostcrawler.

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Be careful. I said something about GC a week or two ago and was swamped with his buddies defending him here. It is hard to tell GC pals from regular people. They look just like us...

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Trigeminal posted:

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Be careful. I said something about GC a week or two ago and was swamped with his buddies defending him here. It is hard to tell GC pals from regular people. They look just like us...

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Sociop posted:

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However like I said before the Horde are stupid and they were trying their best to defend

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Exodus_The_Mage posted:

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By the way, there is an old exploit since WG days.
<blablabla> Start dancing in-and-out at the border, and if you are inside the BG zone as the game ends, you will get the full reward too.

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Wolfpaw_We posted:

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Sociop posted:

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However like I said before the Horde are stupid and they were trying their best to defend

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Unlike the allied sissies, the horde does not enjoy losing.

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Shenron_ posted:

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well on my server the battles are now always ending VERY quickly...like 3 minutes. i have not been able to get in one where we are attacking, but when in a defending group there are always 10 people spamming in caps to let the horde win...so i assume its the same for them when we are attacking.

so there are definitely people sitting around just to cash in on the 1800 on my server. i envy you if people actually play it legitimately on your server.

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Ardenwolfe posted:

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Trigeminal posted:

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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Another fail for the fanboy favorite Ghostcrawler.

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Be careful. I said something about GC a week or two ago and was swamped with his buddies defending him here. It is hard to tell GC pals from regular people. They look just like us...

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If I recall, you said something stupid and got call out for it. Let's not spin doctor that one.

But, still, I'm waiting in a huge line to enter the game. So, obviously, World of Warcraft is dying and doomed.

Yea.

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Ardenwolfe posted:

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Why in the world would I join a server that is 'shiat?' Waiting to log in is better than not being able to log in period.

Are you attempting to be smarmy?

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Ardenwolfe posted:

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Um . . . why not take your own advice and join an active server instead? Seems rather odd and self-defeating to simply quit because one server is dead while so many others are full and active.

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JaredKorry posted:

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Wow, that's almost enough to make me want to PVP. Almost...

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Ardenwolfe posted:

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You know, I'm not in the best of moods, VN is acting a fool, and you like to take the long-winded route to get to the point.

You're right. I absolutely skimmed over your overlong, micro wall-of-text paragraph about why you don't play the game anymore.

Honestly?

I didn't and don't care.

So instead of starting another pointless round of pissing and moaning, I'll just wish you the best at finding the game right for you wherever it may be.

Peace.

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Ardenwolfe posted:

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Sorry you feel that way.

Seriously, what part would you like to discuss? The fact you 'refuse' to play the game anymore? The fact you can't choose any number of the overloaded servers? How about your so-called advice for me to move to the 'dying' server to experience the death of the game? Maybe you would like to debate the fact that Warcraft is doomed because this or that server dried up? It's not like you have a chip on your shoulder over a freakin' game or anything.

You want to call me a troll because I don't want to get into a discussion about something you refuse to get involved in, yet want to argue about with me regardless?

Fine.

Pick one and we'll draw this out for another six pages and get nowhere fast.

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Festus_Stundagin posted:

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lol, wow for someone who 'honestly' doesn't care, you sure go on and on about a subject that was never there to begin with. Keep on trolling bad boy.

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Festus_Stundagin posted:

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You should try logging on one of the 30+ servers that have absolutely no population, like say, Gul'dan. No one's forcing you to keep your characters in lines on servers where everyone tries to be because all the other servers are.. shiat.

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Ardenwolfe posted:

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Festus_Stundagin posted:

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lol, wow for someone who 'honestly' doesn't care, you sure go on and on about a subject that was never there to begin with. Keep on trolling bad boy.

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Jesus, the irony is killing me.

Festus_Stundagin posted:

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You should try logging on one of the 30+ servers that have absolutely no population, like say, Gul'dan. No one's forcing you to keep your characters in lines on servers where everyone tries to be because all the other servers are.. shiat.

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Who's trolling who again?

Yes, yes. Fine, fine. The game is dying. Never mind the record sales, subscribers, and other data.

You're completely correct.

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Festus_Stundagin posted:

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Servers dead != game dead. I've not been on record as ever saying this game is dead. I've been a sounding board on dead servers and changes that I greatly disagree with.

please, continue trolling and inserting things in to my text that I never said because you can't read, or maybe it's the inability to understand what you are reading.

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Festus_Stundagin posted:

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I was making a very valid point that just because your server is doing well doesn't mean the game isn't dying on other servers where it is as you admit, shiat.

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Ardenwolfe posted:

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Festus_Stundagin posted:

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Servers dead != game dead. I've not been on record as ever saying this game is dead. I've been a sounding board on dead servers and changes that I greatly disagree with.

please, continue trolling and inserting things in to my text that I never said because you can't read, or maybe it's the inability to understand what you are reading.

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Correct. You said the game is dying. Maybe you have a problem with your reading and writing comprehension. Here let me help you.

Festus_Stundagin posted:

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I was making a very valid point that just because your server is doing well doesn't mean the game isn't dying on other servers where it is as you admit, shiat.

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Why are you getting upset? I thought you wanted to drag this out. Quit complaining. You have my attention like you wanted.

Or are your trying to escape your own statement with semantics?

Sure, sure. Let's see. I never said on record the game was dead either. Though, I will admit you still bore me.

Are we having fun yet?

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Festus_Stundagin posted:

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I was making a very valid point that just because your server is doing well doesn't mean the game isn't dying on other servers where it is as you admit, shiat.

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Trigeminal posted:

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Be careful. I said something about GC a week or two ago and was swamped with his buddies defending him here. It is hard to tell GC pals from regular people. They look just like us...

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Ardenwolfe posted:

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I must admit, I'm now amused.

So, let me counter with this, since you walked right into it: since my server is alive and thriving, with a waiting line every night, therefore the game must be alive and kicking because so many high servers hold such population.

In fact, some servers will only allow you so many characters per server to help trim the population.

I can use your reasoning from your experience, to turn it on its head, with my experience.

How about that?

Now, do you want to drop this nonsense like I wanted, or do you want to continue for another four more pages? Personal insults and shady name-calling aside, none of which I have done, I'm not the one getting bent on this topic, you know.

So your server is dying. How about your start a new character on one of the many that is not? Or is that too much common sense? Guess it makes way more sense to refuse to play the game, come here to cry about it, and then tussle with me on the Internet over your hurt feelings.

We got that covered now, Soundboard?

Wait.

So do I move from 'anti-troll' to 'troll' with Arc?

There's something I didn't expect.

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