Arcilite_I posted:

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Ironic isn't it. Unless things start becoming a lot more in depth and entertaining, I don't see people paying 2yrs worth of subs for this expansion so far.

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-Kurasis- posted:

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Ironic isn't it. Unless things start becoming a lot more in depth and entertaining, I don't see people paying 2yrs worth of subs for this expansion so far.

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I don't know about you, but I am thoroughly enjoying cata right now

pvp is fun, raiding is great and requires dps to be less retarded than they already are(i got al'akir, conclave of winds, omnitron, magmaw, and valiona done. got the potion dragon dude in blackwing to like 15% and halfen or w/e first boss in bastion to 20%, tho they killed it this week without meh)

the heroics require attention from all, and leveling is better than ever


what is going to drive people away from wow? actually having to pay attention and not OMG AOE TRASH

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Spookysheep posted:

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This could be the beginning of the end. Not for all the new players starting, but for huge numbers that have been around since vanilla.


This just doesn't feel like an expansion at all, it feels like a $40 update patch. The leveling is nothing new at all, in any way whatsoever.

The dungeons, same. Not sure about raids but I just don't see how raids can be any different (just longer, more boring versions of 5 mans).


PVP, no changes whatsoever.


I'm just not seeing much "expansion" to this expansion.


I imagine that for every old school player that finally calls it quits there will be one or two new players replacing them though, at least for a couple of years.

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Unstruck posted:

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Cataclysm isn't an expansion, it's an extension -- an extension of the same stuff all over again.

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Shenron_ posted:

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i want to have something fun to do on my lev 85 so bad but its so sad that i am right where i was during wotlk.

i wish at least you could queue for a dungeon while in a battleground or in a group or something. i want to do heroic dungeons but i have to wait for 40 minutes....during which i cannot group with anyone, do a battleground, log out for a sec to mail something from my alt, etc. or else it will take me out of the queue. so lame. and most of the groups end prematurely so its not even worth a 40 min wait just to break up quickly.

world of waitcraft

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Trigeminal posted:

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Turbo tanks in Strand of the Ancients = brilliant idea
/sarcasm off

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Shenron_ posted:

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i wish at least you could queue for a dungeon while in a battleground or in a group or something.

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shoobzie posted:

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I'm a serious altaholic when it comes to WoW and I have been since day one. With having the ability to log in and just level, work on getting a trade up, or out collected mats, I always have something to do if I choose to log in. But this is the first time in 6 years that I have been wanting to call it quits.

I'm not sure if it's the game that has run its course for me or I'm just getting older and realizing I've been playing too long, lol. I am having fun when I am playing still, but at the end of the nights session, that thought of the repetitiveness of the game keeps coming up and it never has before.

I like the expansion but as many have posted before, it does seem very easy now and just not much of a challenge. Getting to 85 is fairly simple time wise as is leveling from 1. I started my 1 worgen last week and even w/ no heirlooms he hit 50 today. ToA was my DAoC killer, and I can see Cata doing it here for me. I guess time will tell.

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Unstruck posted:

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Cataclysm isn't an expansion, it's an extension -- an extension of the same stuff all over again.

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MinionX-DW posted:

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I'm personally not enjoying the extremely long heroics..

most end up being at least 2 hours long..

I don't like spendin 2 hours in a bloody dungeon.

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Sociop posted:

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MinionX-DW posted:

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I'm personally not enjoying the extremely long heroics..

most end up being at least 2 hours long..

I don't like spendin 2 hours in a bloody dungeon.

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Add to it the fact that you will have to do it daily for the next 6 months or so to get enough Val points to get a full set of Epic gear.

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Auenwing posted:

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shoobzie posted:

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I'm a serious altaholic when it comes to WoW and I have been since day one. With having the ability to log in and just level, work on getting a trade up, or out collected mats, I always have something to do if I choose to log in. But this is the first time in 6 years that I have been wanting to call it quits.

I'm not sure if it's the game that has run its course for me or I'm just getting older and realizing I've been playing too long, lol. I am having fun when I am playing still, but at the end of the nights session, that thought of the repetitiveness of the game keeps coming up and it never has before.

I like the expansion but as many have posted before, it does seem very easy now and just not much of a challenge. Getting to 85 is fairly simple time wise as is leveling from 1. I started my 1 worgen last week and even w/ no heirlooms he hit 50 today. ToA was my DAoC killer, and I can see Cata doing it here for me. I guess time will tell.

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shoobzie, you hit the nail on the head for me. When Cata first came out, the thought of leveling anymore alts to go back through the gear grind again, more leveling of professions, more gathering... same old same old.... I didn't bother loging on for almost a week, and only then because my guildmates wanted to check things out.

Which leads me to... bascially the only reason I play: guildmates.

And they along with me, as I said in another thread, are concerned that Cata will be WoW's "ToA".

And yes, we had fun in the first couple of instances. I have a guildmate who is insisting we take it slow because she knows once we hit 85 and start grinding, she will be overwhelmingly bored.

Which leads to:

Unstruck posted:

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Cataclysm isn't an expansion, it's an extension -- an extension of the same stuff all over again.

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For all the changes, the new (overdone) phasing, new races, redone zones....

...this is exactly how it feels!


Bottom line for me:
WoW is easier to walk away from today than it has ever been.






And I said I would withhold judgement until much later. I'm still trying...

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Spookysheep posted:

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This could be the beginning of the end. Not for all the new players starting, but for huge numbers that have been around since vanilla.


This just doesn't feel like an expansion at all, it feels like a $40 update patch. The leveling is nothing new at all, in any way whatsoever.

The dungeons, same. Not sure about raids but I just don't see how raids can be any different (just longer, more boring versions of 5 mans).


PVP, no changes whatsoever.


I'm just not seeing much "expansion" to this expansion.


I imagine that for every old school player that finally calls it quits there will be one or two new players replacing them though, at least for a couple of years.

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Spookysheep posted:

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This could be the beginning of the end. Not for all the new players starting, but for huge numbers that have been around since vanilla.


This just doesn't feel like an expansion at all, it feels like a $40 update patch. The leveling is nothing new at all, in any way whatsoever.

The dungeons, same. Not sure about raids but I just don't see how raids can be any different (just longer, more boring versions of 5 mans).


PVP, no changes whatsoever.


I'm just not seeing much "expansion" to this expansion.


I imagine that for every old school player that finally calls it quits there will be one or two new players replacing them though, at least for a couple of years.

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_Taebo_ posted:

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I have never really wanted to walk away from this game before, but after I hit 85, ran a few dungeons and just sat around in SW, I felt like that was it for me. I had no desire to bring 3 other 80's through the Cataclysm zones again. Zero re-playability and limited choices due to the on-rails game-play that's even more on rails than it ever was. It does feel like a regular patch and just an extension, not an expansion. I wonder if it's due to Kaplan not being involved as he was from launch until WotLK.

It's just so weird to me, it's like someone flipped a switch and I feel no desire for the game any longer. My buddy felt the same way and we are just baffled what happened. We were die hards. We both cancelled and don't miss it at all.

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The_Korrigan posted:

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A few bored trolls on the VN boards say they may eventually cancel their accounts. The game is obviously doomed.

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_Kewk_ posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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A few bored trolls on the VN boards say they may eventually cancel their accounts. The game is obviously doomed.

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The funny thing about that is years after their accounts have been canceled they will still be posting on wow forums... >_<

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Ironic isn't it. Unless things start becoming a lot more in depth and entertaining, I don't see people paying 2yrs worth of subs for this expansion so far.

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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_Kewk_ posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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A few bored trolls on the VN boards say they may eventually cancel their accounts. The game is obviously doomed.

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The funny thing about that is years after their accounts have been canceled they will still be posting on wow forums... >_<

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Even funnier, the fanboys will still be butthurt about it.

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Ironic isn't it. Unless things start becoming a lot more in depth and entertaining, I don't see people paying 2yrs worth of subs for this expansion so far.

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_Taebo_ posted:

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Wow is a good game, but after this one, I have decided to move on.

There is no way this is going to last me or anyone I know until 2012.

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Alpha_Swift posted:

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Ironic isn't it. Unless things start becoming a lot more in depth and entertaining, I don't see people paying 2yrs worth of subs for this expansion so far.

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Neither do I, but Blizzard didn't get here by being stupid. There will be patches out the wazoo. This game isn't going anywhere.

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IndridCole posted:

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Ironic isn't it. Unless things start becoming a lot more in depth and entertaining, I don't see people paying 2yrs worth of subs for this expansion so far.

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Don't speak too soon. It's a casual market. For those who only play an hour or two a day, double that on Saturdays, and are looking to get thier guild to 25, plus leveling alts...this could take a while. I.....MIGHT....be able to actually do some raiding withing the next 6 months....so...with major patches coming out every (what) 3 months or so....there is plenty to do.

For casual players.

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IndridCole posted:

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The problem, as I see it, is....you guys play too much.

I mean...the expansion has been out 3 weeks...and some people are raiding....WTF???

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shoobzie posted:

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Also the new questing system...

If you follow the "quest exclamation marks" on the boards as you level, it will lead you from zone to zone pretty much. During this process if you complete the zone you are in, and continue to the next one, you just get dragged along. I can't imagine how many old places new places are missing doing it this way.

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

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The problem is once casuals get to level 85 and feel like they are weak as a kitten, the casuals will feel punished. You simply cannot play the way you used to in WOTLK and just have fun. Your idea of fun has to change.

You have to start reading spreadsheets, parsing logs, perusing WoWhead and Elitist Jerks for upgrades to gear and strategies on bosses, learning to CC, practicing running out of fires, and doing 2+ hour dungeons to get the loot needed to hit Heroics and get anything accomplished.

Frankly, I think Blizzard lost their minds and they should have done this gradually, not all at once with the ramped up difficulty.

I started playing Cata on launch day. I didn't take any days off work or even leave early. I played in the afternoons for around 4-5 hours at a time and cracked out 12+ hours Sat/Sun on weekend after Cata launched. I leveled a new Worgen Drood to level 15, and leveled my 80 Priest to 85.

I got to revered in almost all the reputations and did about 5 Normals and that was all I could stomach. I read every quest all the way through as well and did Mount Hyjal, Deepholme, some of Vashjir, and Uldum. Just poked my head into Twilight Highlands. This took just over a week.

There just isn't that much there. It is not "people playing too much". It took me over 3 weeks to do the same thing when WOTLK came out and I was in between assignments in the field and had 3 whole weeks off work for the expac last time!

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

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The problem is once casuals get to level 85 and feel like they are weak as a kitten, the casuals will feel punished. You simply cannot play the way you used to in WOTLK and just have fun. Your idea of fun has to change.

You have to start reading spreadsheets, parsing logs, perusing WoWhead and Elitist Jerks for upgrades to gear and strategies on bosses, learning to CC, practicing running out of fires, and doing 2+ hour dungeons to get the loot needed to hit Heroics and get anything accomplished.
Frankly, I think Blizzard lost their minds and they should have done this gradually, not all at once with the ramped up difficulty.

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IndridCole posted:

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What about proffesions? LOL! J/K

I'm not worried about dungeon difficulty because as a tank I've got que time on my side. And I don't have a problem with challenges like what some are talking about. 2hr dungeons? I'll save thaose for a Saturday evening. I've finally got a mage above 50 (heck above 25 was an accomplishment.) and I'm looking forward to a new DK and Lock. Speak for myslef I think I've got enough to keep me chugging for quite a while. Plus I still have ot go get exhalted with the rest of the TBC factions I left behind.

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IndridCole posted:

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I do this already. I realize a loooong time ago that if you're not visiting WoWhead or some forum ona basis you are behind the curve. I feel bad for those who want it all but won't in th etime to do the things they need.
I know this person ingame who thinks it's neat to have the BoAs from AT..but doesn't want to put in the time needed to work his way up to 'Crusader'. He fels conflicted jumping from alt to alt to alt. I'm like why aren't you leveling your druid to 85? He's not 'feeling it' he says. Okay.

People think I'm insane for having the faction reps I do, or the amount of BoAs. Or that I try to get all my alts to th ehighest in all proffesions...even secondary.

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

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[quote=IndridCole]I do this already. I realize a loooong time ago that if you're not visiting WoWhead or some forum ona basis you are behind the curve. I feel bad for those who want it all but won't in th etime to do the things they need.
I know this person ingame who thinks it's neat to have the BoAs from AT..but doesn't want to put in the time needed to work his way up to 'Crusader'. He fels conflicted jumping from alt to alt to alt. I'm like why aren't you leveling your druid to 85? He's not 'feeling it' he says. Okay.

People think I'm insane for having the faction reps I do, or the amount of BoAs. Or that I try to get all my alts to th ehighest in all proffesions...even secondary.

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

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IndridCole posted:

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I do this already. I realize a loooong time ago that if you're not visiting WoWhead or some forum ona basis you are behind the curve. I feel bad for those who want it all but won't in th etime to do the things they need.
I know this person ingame who thinks it's neat to have the BoAs from AT..but doesn't want to put in the time needed to work his way up to 'Crusader'. He fels conflicted jumping from alt to alt to alt. I'm like why aren't you leveling your druid to 85? He's not 'feeling it' he says. Okay.

People think I'm insane for having the faction reps I do, or the amount of BoAs. Or that I try to get all my alts to th ehighest in all proffesions...even secondary.

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If you are having fun, that is all that counts but I can tell you exactly why your friend says he's not 'feeling it'. It is because the scaling is screwed up past 80. The higher level you get the weaker you feel. 85 in quested blues/greens feels crippled and boring. You have 4k SP, 100k hps, 60k mana, and 4% crit, and 4% haste. Totally lame, again, imho.

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shoobzie posted:

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2. more levels - big let down on how fast it went but check this off too. 5 levels instead of 10 and they went really fast....not twice as fast as 10 levels but even faster honestly.

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Malachi256 posted:

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Sociop posted:

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MinionX-DW posted:

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I'm personally not enjoying the extremely long heroics..

most end up being at least 2 hours long..

I don't like spendin 2 hours in a bloody dungeon.

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Add to it the fact that you will have to do it daily for the next 6 months or so to get enough Val points to get a full set of Epic gear.

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Heroics will rapidly get better (already happening) as the truly poor players just give up, and everyone else gets better.

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JzeroVN posted:

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:
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The problem is once casuals get to level 85 and feel like they are weak as a kitten, the casuals will feel punished. You simply cannot play the way you used to in WOTLK and just have fun. Your idea of fun has to change.

You have to start reading spreadsheets, parsing logs, perusing WoWhead and Elitist Jerks for upgrades to gear and strategies on bosses, learning to CC, practicing running out of fires, and doing 2+ hour dungeons to get the loot needed to hit Heroics and get anything accomplished.

Frankly, I think Blizzard lost their minds and they should have done this gradually, not all at once with the ramped up difficulty.
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But as Spooky and some others pointed out (I think before CATA even released) Blizzard will dial things back when enough people whine about the jump in "difficulty". We're reaching that point now and in a month or two it will be toned down to the point it isn't such a big change for the casuals. Too late for some but plenty will still be here or come back to try it after the changes.

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huldu posted:

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Considering i played WoW since launch i dont see why i wouldnt keep playing it. Currently there isnt much competition on the market. The feeling of a polished mmo like WoW, you just dont see it anywhere else.

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

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JzeroVN posted:

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:
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The problem is once casuals get to level 85 and feel like they are weak as a kitten, the casuals will feel punished. You simply cannot play the way you used to in WOTLK and just have fun. Your idea of fun has to change.

You have to start reading spreadsheets, parsing logs, perusing WoWhead and Elitist Jerks for upgrades to gear and strategies on bosses, learning to CC, practicing running out of fires, and doing 2+ hour dungeons to get the loot needed to hit Heroics and get anything accomplished.

Frankly, I think Blizzard lost their minds and they should have done this gradually, not all at once with the ramped up difficulty.
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But as Spooky and some others pointed out (I think before CATA even released) Blizzard will dial things back when enough people whine about the jump in "difficulty". We're reaching that point now and in a month or two it will be toned down to the point it isn't such a big change for the casuals. Too late for some but plenty will still be here or come back to try it after the changes.

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Ok, just to clear this up, I am NOT decrying the downfall of WoW. I am not saying they are going to tank like OP is saying. I am just agreeing that they are going to sling off a lot of older players and even some new ones with their less than friendly "new" endgame scaling and setup. Just wish the LFD tool was more useful like it was in WOTLK. That was one of the reasons I kept playing as long as I did even when things were getting old before new expac release.

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Spookysheep posted:

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This is the thing that always cracks me up the most. Fanbois froth at the mouth no matter how legitimate and civilized the criticisms are discussed.

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st0rmie posted:

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Spookysheep posted:

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This is the thing that always cracks me up the most. Fanbois froth at the mouth no matter how legitimate and civilized the criticisms are discussed.

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Actually, after seeing you post constantly on these boards for literally years, without ever showing any sign of ever having enjoyed anything about WoW, my reaction is not so much frothing at the mouth, as shaking my head in amused disbelief.

At some point, you're going to come to the conclusion that you spent maybe 5% of your entire life bitching about a game you don't like.

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kyrv posted:

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I was there years ago, but I have to say, the amount of people (vets) kind of not satisfied less than three frickin' weeks after the expansion is pretty insane.

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

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_Taebo_ posted:

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I have never really wanted to walk away from this game before, but after I hit 85, ran a few dungeons and just sat around in SW, I felt like that was it for me. I had no desire to bring 3 other 80's through the Cataclysm zones again. Zero re-playability and limited choices due to the on-rails game-play that's even more on rails than it ever was. It does feel like a regular patch and just an extension, not an expansion. I wonder if it's due to Kaplan not being involved as he was from launch until WotLK.

It's just so weird to me, it's like someone flipped a switch and I feel no desire for the game any longer. My buddy felt the same way and we are just baffled what happened. We were die hards. We both cancelled and don't miss it at all.

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I felt EXACTLY the same Taebo as soon as I hit 85 on my Priest and realized how badly they gimped up healing. I quit already, account is up on the 26th and I haven't logged into game in over a week. Just absolutely 0 interest which is surreal since I just paid out all that money for the expac and was so excited for Cata to release.

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_Kewk_ posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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A few bored trolls on the VN boards say they may eventually cancel their accounts. The game is obviously doomed.

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The funny thing about that is years after their accounts have been canceled they will still be posting on wow forums... >_<

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The_Korrigan posted:

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I am the perfect example of a kindergarten hero

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GutterSludge posted:

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No, you!

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-Kurasis- posted:

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

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I felt EXACTLY the same Taebo as soon as I hit 85 on my Priest and realized how badly they gimped up healing. I quit already, account is up on the 26th and I haven't logged into game in over a week. Just absolutely 0 interest which is surreal since I just paid out all that money for the expac and was so excited for Cata to release.

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oh no. you cant just spam circle of healing anymore during instances and win. i cant spam wild growth while jumping in circles anymore and occasionally check my email mid pull


man, healing sure is HARD!!! let me tell you!

but no really.. If you can't keep up in heroics as a healer now, you are just terrible

they gimped healing, sure, but they also made it BETTER for those who can conserve their mana well and use their heals efficiently

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The_Korrigan posted:

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_Kewk_ posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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A few bored trolls on the VN boards say they may eventually cancel their accounts. The game is obviously doomed.

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The funny thing about that is years after their accounts have been canceled they will still be posting on wow forums... >_<

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Oh, no worries, they will be here until WoW closes its servers, may it be in 5, 10 or 15 years, just to say "told you so! It's been 20 years I'm telling you WoW was doomed, and I WAS RIGHT!". They whole life is focused on that moment. Until then, they will just post more crap and some childish insults to make themself feel better... and we can keep on laughing at their pathetic behavior.
Merry xmas and happy new year, kindergarten heroes

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The_Korrigan posted:

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Bremen_Gaheris: you aren't here every other day predicting the doom of WoW, or trolling in the name of "another" game, so my posts were obviously not meant for you. But I think you knew that before you even made your last post.
Merry xmas

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-Mithan- posted:

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Personally, I think Cataclysm is a pretty damn good expansion overall.

The problem I have is that it is just more of the same and I am really feeling it this time.

No, I am not cancelling the game any time soon but the "boredom" factor which usually took me 6-8 months after an expansion, appears to be hitting me 3 weeks after the fact. Not good. I am still slowly leveling one of my alts though and doing the dailies with my main, but I have NO desire to go into Heroics at all, or do much of anything else in the game. That being said, I did hit 200k Gold today



Anyways, it doesn't matter.

I expect to give Rift a shot when it comes out and SW:TOR should prove interesting as well, even if I just do "drive byes" on those games that last a few weeks or a few months, they will prove to be interesting diversions. I doubt they will be "settle" games for me, where I stay for years...


The good news is that there are about 15-20 good single player games I am really interested in playing in 2011, plus 3 or 4 from 2010 I have not touched yet (Gothic 4, Brotherhood, God of War 3, Allan Wake, etc) so I think a new "lul" in WoW is coming at a perfect time.

Plus, my life is going to be insane in 2011 too, so... getting bored is probably a good thing


I think the major point expansions for Cataclysm will offer a LOT of new content though.
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GutterSludge posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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I am the perfect example of a kindergarten hero

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People complain, you say "speak with your wallet"...

People say they are not resubbing, you call them "doomsayer trolls"...

People say they don't like healing reduced to one button, one spell, every time, all the time, and you jump right in with the name calling.



Korrigan, you are the most pathetic poster on these boards, but I find it highly entertaining to watch you make such a fool of yourself day in and day out.

Don't ever change.

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Long_Ranger posted:

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From what I hear, this is going to be a "short" expansion year: expect a full expansion next year.

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Spookysheep posted:

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This could be the beginning of the end. Not for all the new players starting, but for huge numbers that have been around since vanilla.


This just doesn't feel like an expansion at all, it feels like a $40 update patch. The leveling is nothing new at all, in any way whatsoever.

The dungeons, same. Not sure about raids but I just don't see how raids can be any different (just longer, more boring versions of 5 mans).


PVP, no changes whatsoever.


I'm just not seeing much "expansion" to this expansion.


I imagine that for every old school player that finally calls it quits there will be one or two new players replacing them though, at least for a couple of years.

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Ironic isn't it. Unless things start becoming a lot more in depth and entertaining, I don't see people paying 2yrs worth of subs for this expansion so far.

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Foojo posted:

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He didn't do any of that in the thread, but it appears that he struck a nerve with you with his one post. You and Arc seem to think you are winning something, but you only end up looking like an *** in yet another thread.

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The_Korrigan posted:

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GutterSludge posted:

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No, you!

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Oh, come on, big boy, you can do better.
If you start to be as boring as your apprentice troll friend minionx-dw, you're gonna be fired from the kindergarten elite and join him with the rejects in the dark corner of the courtyard.

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GutterSludge posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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GutterSludge posted:

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No, you!

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Oh, come on, big boy, you can do better.
If you start to be as boring as your apprentice troll friend minionx-dw, you're gonna be fired from the kindergarten elite and join him with the rejects in the dark corner of the courtyard.

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Typical Korrigan response when faced with the factual truth of it all..denial, deflection, and name calling.

Don't ever change!...Your predictability never falters.

Even here, in a thread that is 100% opinion based, no one is allowed to have one unless it agrees with yours.


/chuckle

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GutterSludge posted:

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Foojo posted:

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He didn't do any of that in the thread, but it appears that he struck a nerve with you with his one post. You and Arc seem to think you are winning something, but you only end up looking like an *** in yet another thread.

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So, this is the only thread you read?

Thought so.

Try getting the whole picture, before posting about the whole picture..

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Foojo posted:

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You're an *** in almost every thread you post to

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Foojo posted:

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I do have the whole picture. You're an *** in almost every thread you post to, then the same two posters/cheerleaders come in every time and say how great you are showing whoever up. Rinse and repeat.

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Arcilite_I posted:

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You would think the womb some of these people were birthed from was injected with Skin So Soft lotion.

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Ugh_Lancelot posted:

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Foojo posted:

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I do have the whole picture. You're an *** in almost every thread you post to, then the same two posters/cheerleaders come in every time and say how great you are showing whoever up. Rinse and repeat.

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So typical that you (and others), instead of looking for the grain of truth in the unpolished mirror, choose only to see the tarnish. Ya know, my grandfather would have given you a heart attack with just his version of "hello." Some of you kids really need to get out of the sissified knitting circles you frequent and see the more interesting side of life every so often. Hell, you might even learn something in the process.

Back in the day, we called it a "character-building experience." Nowadays, it's defamatory, offensive, being an ass or politically incorrect.

/queue the "kindergarten hero" martyrs whining in 3...2...1...

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Ugh_Lancelot posted:

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The only change from back then is that the folks who were wimps then are still wimps now, just a lot more vocal.

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The_Korrigan posted:

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So yeah, welcome to the kindergarten hero wannabe club. Keep on flexing your virtual muscles, epeen, and show how bad ass and thick skinned you are in the virtual forum world. We are very impressed by your virtual manhood, really.

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The_Korrigan posted:

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Yep, that's true. Back in time, pricks would have been forced to behave politely since they couldn't hide behind computer screens. Now they can just be rude while safely sitting in a computer chair. You are right, they are more vocal now.

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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No, YOU!

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Spookysheep posted:

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Sounds to me like Korrigan has gotten his ass kicked one time too many IRL so it makes him feel all manly to throw down the gauntlet in practically every thread he posts.


Yet he doesn't see the irony at all.


Therein lies the true comedy gold

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Spookysheep posted:

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No YOU!

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Yes HIM, ROFLCOPTER!

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Foojo posted:

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I do have the whole picture. You're an *** in almost every thread you post to, then the same two posters/cheerleaders come in every time and say how great you are showing whoever up. Rinse and repeat.

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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So yeah, welcome to the kindergarten hero wannabe club. Keep on flexing your virtual muscles, epeen, and show how bad ass and thick skinned you are in the virtual forum world. We are very impressed by your virtual manhood, really.

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This from someone who measures everyone else by how far they've gotten in raids. LOL

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GutterSludge posted:

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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So yeah, welcome to the kindergarten hero wannabe club. Keep on flexing your virtual muscles, epeen, and show how bad ass and thick skinned you are in the virtual forum world. We are very impressed by your virtual manhood, really.

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This from someone who measures everyone else by how far they've gotten in raids. LOL

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QFT

It is absolutely hilarious how much Korrigan described himself in that post.

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Talehon69 posted:

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Always cracks me up that any thread that breaks 2 pages on this forum is because of people flaming each other, and never from actual contributions. Not that I'm trying to fix that, this thread is pretty far past that.

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The_Korrigan posted:

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Ah, we have the four usual suspects doing their "no you" dance now, the kindergarten party is full

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Elkabong08 posted:

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Others have postulated that Blizzard is attempting to turn over the player base.

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Groooovechampion posted:

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I almost think we should invite some "tvtropes for WoW - Thread", if somebody had not already done that.

Aside to all that has been said, I'm getting more and more irritated of this "Super Badguy" from the lore getting easily owned, which then brings the next "Superbadguy" that also gets owned - leading to the NEXT --

Ye get me drift, ye m8s?

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Groooovechampion posted:

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The progression is just too fast.
Unbeatable boss I wouldn't say; I'd rather say "not a boss at all" - at least for a long, long time.

Especially when it came to Arthas and Northrend. WC3 The Frozen Throne really brought the impression that Northrend was truly an icy hell, but WoW makes it look like a joke. Progressing through Northrend could have gone zone-wise, following somewhat the style of the Ahn'Qiraj event. I wouldn't say "gather 10000000 xyz", but have this done like "player factions vs Arthas faction" where guilds/players have to keep some foothold of some sort.
I don't want to hijack this thread into some dead horse suggestion thing.

I just found it went WAY too fast with Arthas getting owned "just like that". I wouldn't be surprised to see Deathwing owned asap once that dragon is raidable.

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millhouse47 posted:

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im a level 16 orc and im trying to fund out how to buy a raptor mount i went to the murchant in sen jin village and he says im not respected or known by him or something like that can you help?

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millhouse47 posted:

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im a level 16 orc and im trying to fund out how to buy a raptor mount i went to the murchant in sen jin village and he says im not respected or known by him or something like that can you help?

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Groooovechampion posted:

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Especially when it came to Arthas and Northrend. WC3 The Frozen Throne really brought the impression that Northrend was truly an icy hell, but WoW makes it look like a joke. Progressing through Northrend could have gone zone-wise, following somewhat the style of the Ahn'Qiraj event. I wouldn't say "gather 10000000 xyz", but have this done like "player factions vs Arthas faction" where guilds/players have to keep some foothold of some sort.

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Arcilite_I posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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Ah, we have the four usual suspects doing their "no you" dance now, the kindergarten party is full

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You mean the 4 main people who continually call you out on your bullshit? If that makes us kindergarten children, then give me some juice and crackers, I need a nap after flogging you constantly.

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JaredKorry posted:

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Korrigan is hateful just for the sake of being hateful. He does nothing but belittle, insult, and demean others just because they have opinions that differ from his. And when he is called out on it, it's just more of the same. Completely ignoring and avoiding what is said and concentrating only on tossing more inane, juvenile insults and put downs around.

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GutterSludge posted:

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JaredKorry posted:

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Korrigan is hateful just for the sake of being hateful. He does nothing but belittle, insult, and demean others just because they have opinions that differ from his. And when he is called out on it, it's just more of the same. Completely ignoring and avoiding what is said and concentrating only on tossing more inane, juvenile insults and put downs around.

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Very well said, Jared. Glad you finally see the truth.

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JaredKorry posted:

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Arcilite_I posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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Ah, we have the four usual suspects doing their "no you" dance now, the kindergarten party is full

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You mean the 4 main people who continually call you out on your bullshit? If that makes us kindergarten children, then give me some juice and crackers, I need a nap after flogging you constantly.

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You have zero room to "call" anyone out on anything. You and your crowd are hateful just for the sake of being hateful. You guys do nothing but belittle, insult, and demean others just for shits and giggles. And when YOU guys are called out on it, it's just more of the same. Completely ignoring and avoiding what is said and concentrating only on tossing more inane, juvenile insults and put downs around. I can only guess that it somehow makes you feel powerful or good about yourself to put others down.

Feel free to continue your pissing contest amongst yourselves to see who can be the biggest dick and come up with the "best" insult or put down.

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

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Inane. That is such a great word. I have only really read it in Sci-fi fantasy novels and here on the VNboards though. My only problem with it, however, is I need to find more chances to use it in real life! I just don't find myself in those situations where "inane" can properly be used. Eh, oh well, using it around the kind of oil field guys I work with would probably get me beat up anyway....

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JaredKorry posted:

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Another typical "I know you are, but what am I?" response from Gutter.

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JaredKorry posted:

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Arcilite_I posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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Ah, we have the four usual suspects doing their "no you" dance now, the kindergarten party is full

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You mean the 4 main people who continually call you out on your bullshit? If that makes us kindergarten children, then give me some juice and crackers, I need a nap after flogging you constantly.

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You have zero room to "call" anyone out on anything. You and your crowd are hateful just for the sake of being hateful. You guys do nothing but belittle, insult, and demean others just for shits and giggles. And when YOU guys are called out on it, it's just more of the same. Completely ignoring and avoiding what is said and concentrating only on tossing more inane, juvenile insults and put downs around. I can only guess that it somehow makes you feel powerful or good about yourself to put others down.

Feel free to continue your pissing contest amongst yourselves to see who can be the biggest dick and come up with the "best" insult or put down.

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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

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Inane. That is such a great word. I have only really read it in Sci-fi fantasy novels and here on the VNboards though. My only problem with it, however, is I need to find more chances to use it in real life! I just don't find myself in those situations where "inane" can properly be used. Eh, oh well, using it around the kind of oil field guys I work with would probably get me beat up anyway....

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Eh. When I still worked in the oilpatch about half the people were complete geeks and quite a number played WoW (at least one wouldn't talk about anything else). But that was in coil. Maybe the rig side were a little gruntier, I don't know.

Not much else to do in those little shiteholes. Other than grab what sleep you can I guess. I certainly don't miss THAT lifestyle.

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Cawlin posted:

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Any hope of resurrecting actual discussion in this thread or is it till a boxing match at the Special Olympics?

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Cawlin posted:

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Any hope of resurrecting actual discussion in this thread or is it till a boxing match at the Special Olympics?

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Erdrickk29 posted:

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O wow, hey look! another omg WOW is going to end thread! There is one of these after every expansion....and yet wow keeps on chugging along. I look forward to the next "WOW is going to die" thread in 2 years or so when the next Xpac is released.

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Fedup23 posted:

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I am going to just put this out there in case anyone doesnt realize it by now. The "hateful" posters that hang around here are just having fun by being mouthy and sarcastic .. the "anti-hateful" posters are the ones that actually have their panties in a crack.

As one without a dog in the fight..I usually get a few minutes of entertainment out of it. If you dont.. there is always other thread/board waiting for you somewhere else.

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JaredKorry posted:

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Fedup23 posted:

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I am going to just put this out there in case anyone doesnt realize it by now. The "hateful" posters that hang around here are just having fun by being mouthy and sarcastic .. the "anti-hateful" posters are the ones that actually have their panties in a crack.

As one without a dog in the fight..I usually get a few minutes of entertainment out of it. If you dont.. there is always other thread/board waiting for you somewhere else.

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Oh I'm fully aware that they enjoy and get a kick out of being jackasses to other people. I believe I mentioned that in my post, the whole "shits and giggles" thing. I just don't find it amusing in the least to entertain yourself by belittling and demeaning others. I find it rather pathetic and actually feel sorry for them.

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Erdrickk29 posted:

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O wow, hey look! another omg WOW is going to end thread! There is one of these after every expansion....and yet wow keeps on chugging along. I look forward to the next "WOW is going to die" thread in 2 years or so when the next Xpac is released.

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So basically you post once per expansion to bitch about those who are bitching. Who's worse lol...

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Erdrickk29 posted:

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Erdrickk29 posted:

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O wow, hey look! another omg WOW is going to end thread! There is one of these after every expansion....and yet wow keeps on chugging along. I look forward to the next "WOW is going to die" thread in 2 years or so when the next Xpac is released.

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So basically you post once per expansion to bitch about those who are bitching. Who's worse lol...

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LOL sounds funny when you put it like that. However this is untrue. This is a second account that I rarely use. I mainly lurk here and take a stab once in a while.

I didn't mean anything against you personally. It's just I happen to log on and see this thread and I couldn't resist.

I personally am enjoying WOW in it's current state. I find heroics challenging. I myself LOVE to level so the whole +5 level thing kinda pissed me off.

Mostly everyone is right thought, it is more of the same old. It's just that I have yet to tire of Wow even playing after 6 years! I expect that the expansion after this one (Emerald Dream?) will be my last. My wife and I are going to start a family and well Family > Wow

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JaredKorry posted:

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Oh I am over you, Arc. I am so far over you that you aren't even worth the effort of getting angry at. Instead I just feel sorry for and pity you.

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Erdrickk29 posted:

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O wow, hey look! another omg WOW is going to end thread! There is one of these after every expansion....and yet wow keeps on chugging along. I look forward to the next "WOW is going to die" thread in 2 years or so when the next Xpac is released.

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So basically you post once per expansion to bitch about those who are bitching. Who's worse lol...

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Stonemane2 posted:

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Erdrickk29 posted:

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O wow, hey look! another omg WOW is going to end thread! There is one of these after every expansion....and yet wow keeps on chugging along. I look forward to the next "WOW is going to die" thread in 2 years or so when the next Xpac is released.

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So basically you post once per expansion to bitch about those who are bitching. Who's worse lol...

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Bitching about the bitchers is a double negative & therefore a positive.

Personally, I dont get why people who dont like a game stick around to bitch about it --- but it is their right so I just deal with it. Unless we are talking about AC2. That game was so bad even I had to stick around & whine.

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Arcilite_I posted:

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Damn it Auen, I've told you repeatedly about using logic here

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JaredKorry posted:

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Oh I am over you, Arc. I am so far over you that you aren't even worth the effort of getting angry at. Instead I just feel sorry for and pity you.

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The_Korrigan posted:

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they will just post more crap and some childish insults to make themself feel better... and we can keep on laughing at their pathetic behavior.

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The_Korrigan posted:

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- We have healing priests in my guild.
- They do pretty well.

=> learn to play?

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Ugh_Lancelot posted:

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More whining and personal attacks

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The_Korrigan posted:

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Ugh_Lancelot posted:

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The_Korrigan posted:

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Ya know, if you'd rather not get flamed for a fool every time you post, maybe you could head that off at the pass?

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