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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
consensus? Good for a few months of fun? Seems like the grind to 85 is relatively quick but how are the other grinds (rep,honor,gear, pvp titles, etc)?

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
Well, I've got nothing to do but Raid on my main already, so not much of a grind for gear/rep.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
People forget that cataclysm = both 80-85 content and new 1-60 Azeroth. Too used to the two previous expansion that were end-game content only. Well, like most mmo expansions hehe.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
I lvl'd my priest in vash til 82 and decided to finish the mage instead. I have to say, Outlands and Northrend went by relatively fast. Think I went from 64-79 in 6-7 days. Queued for dungeons/bgs and ran autopilot between Archeology spots while studying.

Archeology isn't exactly fun or rewarding, other than being a supplemental source of experience like Herb/Mining. From what I've read, you stop getting skill points for the act of surveying at 100 skill, after that it's only from assembling artifacts. For the artifacts, there are some VERY nice rare ones, such as epic quality BoAs. I'm looking forward to the BoA's, not enjoying spending 15min assembling an artifact that sells for 5s. I could walk outside Orgrimmar, punch a boar in the face and make more money in 1% of the time. There should be some form of middle ground as far as rewards.

I think casual questers are going to have a hard time outside of a guild as far as using the DFT. My priest had a 5k gs (well above NR quest gear)when I started questing in Vash, she's 82 and still 2 ilvl away from being able to queue for the first two dungeons. That seems like a bit of a gap to me. Definitely excited to see the change in power my mage undergoes once I knock out those last 8 bubbles to 80. His gear is horrific, but I'm still dominating dps charts. Gotta say, after playing some of the more intricate classes in this game, it's nice to be able to sit back and press 3 buttons. Yeah three, I'm oldschool and I use CC liberally.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
I still have a long way to go to bring a stable of alts up to 85 and max tradeskills, but in terms of my main, I'm pretty much in leisure mode, healing when I feel like it. I'm not a big raider, so until we start moving through tiers, I doubt I'll see any pug raids, but that's not that big of a deal, just something to try out down the road. I may just begin building a gold base for kicks. I've always been a poverty-stricken kind of player, even when gold was flowing freely.

My only concern is that it took me a pretty long time to truly revile the WOTLK dungeons, and I'm already getting kind of bored of the Cata ones. I can't put my finger on why.


I think in the short term looking long, they're not going to be able to get away with quite as long a time between expacs after Cata (though if that leak is to be believed, they are planning that anyway).

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
I enjoy progressing my characters to the level cap and then again via gear though the released content after the expansions. So until the Deathwing content comes out and I have gained most of what I want from that content gear wise I have plenty to keep me entertained. I only got bored with WotLk after I gotten most of the gear from ICC that was an upgrade aside from Heroic versions which didn't seem like worth the effort.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
I can already see where questing through the new zones will be extremely tedious on alts.

They are fun the first time through but like everything else, the 2nd time is "been there done that."

The new dungeons are ok, but grinding them over and over is going to get old far quicker than WOTLK.


I don't see this xpac lasting me anywhere near two years like others have had to.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
Soulja_of_War posted:
consensus? Good for a few months of fun? Seems like the grind to 85 is relatively quick but how are the other grinds (rep,honor,gear, pvp titles, etc)?


The 'grind' to 85?

I'm not doing anything, no will I, that I consider to be a 'grind'. I play for fun and enjoyment. That doesn't mean everything I do in the game is lights out fun, but when something becomes a grind - I don't do it.

Going from 80 to 85 shouldn't be a grind, unless you are somehow doing it wrong. Maybe you mean 1 to 85?

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
I enjoyed the few weeks. Account runs out today and wont resub. Got my pally to 85 and got him a lot of heroic gear so Im ready for raids. Not ready to commit to raid yets so I leveled up my hunter to 83 and got his mining up and jc. Didnt see the point so I stopped. Ill be back in a few months once they had more stuff

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
Flesh_Wound posted:

My only concern is that it took me a pretty long time to truly revile the WOTLK dungeons, and I'm already getting kind of bored of the Cata ones. I can't put my finger on why.



Might be because they are too long, too slow, and too boring and just barely moderately rewarding. Gone are the days when I would queue up for a dungeon if I wanted to have a quick bit of fun. Unless I have 2+ hours to sit there it's not even worth queueing. At least for me they just aren't any fun. This is still a game right? Do we still want to have fun?

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
Definitely don't like it as much as Cata. Zones seem too forced and tight in space. Did all of Vash, but as I was leveling my druid that was pretty easy. Deepholm already has me bored so hopefully a real outdoor zone will spice things up. Won't even queue for the new runs, figure let the second tier roll around then bother with it, get the alts to 85

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
slythetove posted:
Flesh_Wound posted:

My only concern is that it took me a pretty long time to truly revile the WOTLK dungeons, and I'm already getting kind of bored of the Cata ones. I can't put my finger on why.



Might be because they are too long, too slow, and too boring and just barely moderately rewarding. Gone are the days when I would queue up for a dungeon if I wanted to have a quick bit of fun. Unless I have 2+ hours to sit there it's not even worth queueing. At least for me they just aren't any fun. This is still a game right? Do we still want to have fun?

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Too true. Cata dungeons "challenging"? Hardly. Fighting your characters gimpiness? Challenging.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
The new dungeons harken me back to the first molten core runs, and then the 50th molten core runs.....

challenging to figure out the first time.... then boring as all hell trying to figure out why the trash mobs are so overpowered to the group.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
Its been good. Spent a level or so in each of the new high level zones getting to 85. Have done all the new dungeons on regular mode a number of times and tossed all hard earned ICC armor for greens and blues.

Spent a lot of time and gold getting LW up but still have a few points to go.

I still see a lot of things to do. I'm starting to see a few epics along with associated gemming and enchants etc. to fine tune. That will take some time.

I've started doing a few heroic mode dungeons and they are a challenge and its going to take a while to get them down I think.

I see a least a couple of months of "things to do" with the expansion just as it is. By then Bliz will be opening new dungeons and such that keep people busy for the comming year.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
I easily got one 80 to 85 in a week, made a lot of gold, bought my 310% finally during that week.

I have no desire to level any of my alts to 85 right now, maybe next year, it only takes a week.

As for the zones, I like the look of them, but the quests all felt like dailies or something. In WotLK they put Arthas/LK right into some of the quests, he'd come out in his fat suit, point his sword, shake his fist and make a few speeches, putting down his minions I was about to embarrass.

It was cool to see Arthas in some of the ghostly flashbacks as well. Wrathgate was cool and interesting.

I think I saw Deathwing once, maybe twice during my 80-85 adventure. I dunno, just seems kinda half-arsed to me.

I will say this, it feels good to back back in the home cities and Azeroth in general, as well as being able to fly most everywhere.

 

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I played WoW from August 2006 to July 2010. I quit in July because of the RealID dustup, lack of interest in the expansion
and the overall feeling the game had become a job. I have 7 level 80 characters with 3 main ones: pally tank, resto shaman,
dps DK. I would do the LFD everyday on each main character in addition to fishing, cooking, alchemy and JC dailies. Every day without
fail (I think my shaman alone has 50+ heroic VH runs).

I saw that they had the 10 day trial, I have two weeks off of work and figured "what the hell", so I signed back up.
I'm on day 2 of the trial.

I like:

Gilneas starting area
Graphics – Stormwind, Uldum, maps are nice and detailed now
Music – old and new mixed in
Guild levels/talents/buy specific guild items

Do not like:

Talent system
Removal of portals
UI in general (too flashy)
Vashj'ir, the underwater area – enemies attacking x,y,z instead of x,y in addition to the gankers
Scripted events (a few are OK, but it seems there's a lot in this expansion)

I'm leveling a worgen hunter right now and it's fun to see the changes in the old zones with the new quests
and landscape. My goal is to get to 60 before the trial runs out (should be easy) and then go back
to my many games I have loaded up in Steam. Overall, I think this expansion leaves a bit to be desired in
terms of content for high level characters.

Should be interesting to see what they come up with for the next expansion in 2012.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
kyrv posted:
Soulja_of_War posted:
consensus? Good for a few months of fun? Seems like the grind to 85 is relatively quick but how are the other grinds (rep,honor,gear, pvp titles, etc)?


The 'grind' to 85?

I'm not doing anything, no will I, that I consider to be a 'grind'. I play for fun and enjoyment. That doesn't mean everything I do in the game is lights out fun, but when something becomes a grind - I don't do it.

Going from 80 to 85 shouldn't be a grind, unless you are somehow doing it wrong. Maybe you mean 1 to 85?


Agree with this post
Anyone who considers a fun game a grind should have quit ages ago

 

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I think some people have forgot the meaning of a grind.

 

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Subject: So a couple of weeks in Cataclysm and...
I finally got one of my horde to 85 and I think the trip was pretty nice. I did get a little tired of the Indiana Jones quests, and kept wondering if they had to pay Steven Spielberg for lifting so much of his stuff.

I don't really care for some of the class changes.

I think the biggest problem for me is leveling up other toons you are going to see almost exactly the same quests (horde or alliance) the second, third ... every time you do them. At least in Wraith the horde and alliance first zones of the expansion were a little more separated in quest lines. Here, almost everybody is doing the same quests for the same guys.

And the phasing ... gets old.

Another thing I have noticed is the big difference between leveling a class with heals as compared to a class without. With my paladin there was almost no down time ever. Heal a little after this fight or that. With my death knight, there are lots of just normal battles with basic mobs that leave you eating or first-aiding after the fight.

 

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I loved Cataclysm 80-85. It went by in a day but it was a good time getting there. I have now just been maxing reps and getting the purple tank gear and enchants. The only rep I need now is in Uldum to get my purple bracer. We went as a guild and got the PVP boss in TB. We poked @ Magmaw early last week but needed more gear - the strategy/coordination were good just needed more damage going out.

 

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