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Subject: Which zones are phased?
More specifically, in which zones can you NOT have friends pop by and join you, because you are on different quest lines.

DK start, Worgen start, two new level 80 zones I think. Is Westfall fully phased or just reall linear with npc's moving? Lakeshire looks like it might be?

Any other ones? Or too numerous to mention? :o

Oh mostly interested in alliance but curious about Horde as well. Aun started a topic on this, have to say, my friend and I aren't big fans and it's been frustrating at times. But I'm assuming there are plenty of non-phased zones to choose from, or should I not assume? happy

 

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Subject: Which zones are phased?
Too many to mention really. All the new areas have some phasing, but it's hard to say how widespread it reaches. A phased area could be as small as a little hut or as large as the entire area.

What is kinda cool is that because we level so fast now, we are able to pop over to another area to level with a friend if we don't happen to be at the same place in the current area. There are at least 3 paths of progression from 1-60.

 

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Thanks Sprawl.

 

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run 2 accounts.

as you drag the 2nd around you will notice all the 'phased' zones by the number of times he drops auto-follow.

even if theyre in sync, they'll still indicate all the phase points. (its really really annoying)

 

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I just hope they find a way to "eliminate" phasing around summoning stones...

Was a PITA summoning people to ICC when you couldn't see the majority of your group, because you did all the quests, and they didn't...

 

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wait there is phasing in the pre-60 zones as well? thats so lame

 

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wait there is phasing in the pre-60 zones as well? thats so lame


Yes. sad Well it's not all bad, I have mixed feelings on it. The quests and stories are interesting so far, and technology wise it's cool, but it's a departure from what made the game great and (still) different - the wide open world not blocked by constant loading.


Re the above and auto follow, if you are grouped you can get a little blue circle that tells you they are out of phase.


Re the summoning stones - holy carp - I wonder if that was an oversight?

 

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jioss posted:
run 2 accounts.

as you drag the 2nd around you will notice all the 'phased' zones by the number of times he drops auto-follow.

even if theyre in sync, they'll still indicate all the phase points. (its really really annoying)


We were going between 2 and 4 boxing... and it was painful because of the phasing every 10 feet even though we were all on the same quests. As soon as you hit a phased area.... detached.

 

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Subject: Which zones are phased?
I've noticed some phasing in lower level zones while leveling some alts. For instance, in Felwood, there's an area where you have to kill some gobling shredders (those mech things), and then afterwards you have to go in a cave and blow up an engine. When you come back out, there's oil spurting everywhere, along with goblins running around, and a quest for that too, but the shredders were no longer there.

In Western Plaguelands, I noticed some areas didn't have mobs until I completed a quest, then they showed up behind me (was part of the quest). And in Andorhal, sometimes I noticed alliance fighting undead, then later no fighting, then later quest had alliance fighting horde. I didn't go back after finishing it though, because I was questing with my brother and he wanted to go to eastern plaguelands.

So yeah, there's phasing in the old lands, but it's usually restricted to certain areas of the zone, not the entirety of it.

 

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While I appreciate what they can do for the personal storyline and the illusion of affecting the world... phasing is really starting to irritate me.

Especially when I fly into an area, and I can see mobs or features of the old phase disappear and the new stuff pop in its place. Talk about smashing the 4th wall with a sledgehammer. I'd rather have just a static world than one that is so blatantly a facade.

 

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The best is when you see an herb 10 feet away, and then as you run right up to it, it disappears. So then you take 5 steps back, it appears, you dart forward to try to pick it, and it's gone...

 

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The best is when you see an herb 10 feet away, and then as you run right up to it, it disappears. So then you take 5 steps back, it appears, you dart forward to try to pick it, and it's gone...


Yeah, that happens more often than it should.

 

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Wait, what is this phasing? It's like pseudo instancing? I'll have to go read about this...

 

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It's basically Blizzard trying to turn WoW into Warcraft IV

 

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So you can be in the same place as another player, not in an instance, but if you're not on the same quest, you don't see each other? Like little pockets of instanced world?

 

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Cryme posted:
So you can be in the same place as another player, not in an instance, but if you're not on the same quest, you don't see each other? Like little pockets of instanced world?


Exactly.

Since WoW leveling is almost an entirely single-player game anyway, most of the playerbase likes it. As an MMO veteran mysefl, who (check my sig), I find its over-use to be pretty terrible.

 

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Malachi256 posted:
Cryme posted:
So you can be in the same place as another player, not in an instance, but if you're not on the same quest, you don't see each other? Like little pockets of instanced world?


Exactly.

Since WoW leveling is almost an entirely single-player game anyway, most of the playerbase likes it. As an MMO veteran mysefl, who (check my sig), I find its over-use to be pretty terrible.
I never had a difficult time solo questing without phasing, so although a cool little idea, I don't really see the NEED for it. I can only remember having to wait for a respawn because of somebody else questing before me a handful of times. I liked having the option of friends coming to help me even if they've already completed the quest... it promotes comradery and some quests were just difficult for me to solo because of my class or whatever and I actually NEEDED help.

I haven't played in a couple years, and I've never experienced "phasing" that I know of, so I can't speak to it from personal experience, but although the coding sounds cool, I don't think I would be in favor of it. Generally speaking anyway...

 

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Anyone try following or being followed in a phasing zone? Good grief AF goes off every 10 feet in some spots.

friend: Afk, on AF
me: sorry, AF won't work
friend: why not, we have the exact quests and will be right next to each other?
me: valid question, don't know. GC probably has a good blog answer when he's done saying threat is in the game.

 

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Subject: Which zones are phased?
Cryme posted:
Malachi256 posted:
Cryme posted:
So you can be in the same place as another player, not in an instance, but if you're not on the same quest, you don't see each other? Like little pockets of instanced world?


Exactly.

Since WoW leveling is almost an entirely single-player game anyway, most of the playerbase likes it. As an MMO veteran mysefl, who (check my sig), I find its over-use to be pretty terrible.
I never had a difficult time solo questing without phasing, so although a cool little idea, I don't really see the NEED for it. I can only remember having to wait for a respawn because of somebody else questing before me a handful of times. I liked having the option of friends coming to help me even if they've already completed the quest... it promotes comradery and some quests were just difficult for me to solo because of my class or whatever and I actually NEEDED help.

I haven't played in a couple years, and I've never experienced "phasing" that I know of, so I can't speak to it from personal experience, but although the coding sounds cool, I don't think I would be in favor of it. Generally speaking anyway...


I think you really have to see it to pass judgement.

In Wotlk I thought it was pretty damn cool to see how friendly/enemy lines get moved because of my actions and how the areas changed because of it.

It has it's downsides but I love some of the upsides as well.

 

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I think you really have to see it to pass judgement.

In Wotlk I thought it was pretty damn cool to see how friendly/enemy lines get moved because of my actions and how the areas changed because of it.

It has it's downsides but I love some of the upsides as well.


Icecrown was great.

But when you can't follow your friend across a zone where you have the same quest log with the same quest progression it's time for them to take a step back.

 

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