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I have been lagging bad especially in BG's like AV so I googled around for tweaks and found this WTFast service.
It is supposed cut the distance that your connection has to go through by removing a number of servers in your connection, I am guessing finds and maintain the shortest distance from your internet provider to the WoW server.
So I am curious if anyone has tried it, if it really works or is it just a scam?
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OMG, the fastest keylogger out there. Thanks for the link.
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Hi.
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I've tried a few services like that in the past to get around routing issues and other latency based issues for games. I forget which one has a free service that allows you to run it at an hour per time.
They work well if you are having a problem but otherwise if you aren't, there isn't much of a gain.
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This topic flamed the official boards some time ago before the erasure. But, in a nutshell, Blizzard doesn't support the proxy service. But, they will not ban you for it.
However.
If your account is damaged, stolen, or altered due to use of the service, Blizzard will not restore the account according to the Blue response.
Previous users also reported an increase in viruses, trojans, and the like after use. Not all users, as some claim otherwise, but enough for people to take notice.
Finally, users also reported the lag increased in some areas due to location.
Personally, and this is purely my opinion, I would not use it. There are enough hackers looking for ways to intercept information through such a service and eat into your system or account.
I wouldn't give them an additional avenue.
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WTFast is legit and Blizzard (blue post) has specifically stated that using a proxy service like WTFast is not against their Terms of Service. There is text in the terms that could be construed as meaning this, however this text is meant to deal with people running unauthorized WoW servers.
Tens of thousands of people use proxies to play WoW (and other games) every day from school, work, troops overseas - and of course people all over the world using services like WTFast to cut their latency and improve their connection (we have thousands of users). Using a proxy alone is NEVER enough to get your account banned.
One consideration while using proxy services is that often malicious users do use proxies. For example, a hacker trying to steal your WoW account would likely use a proxy to try and hide their true identity from Blizzard while they wipe out your account. Due to this proxy "abuse" by malicious users, Blizzard has recently integrated a new automated "account lock" system. It is quite simple actually, if someone with a significantly new IP address starts playing on your WoW account, the account will immediately become locked and you will be sent an e-mail from Blizz to change your account password to secure your account. Maybe some of the users here have already experienced this, for example, if you play from your laptop while you are travelling.
Fortunately WTFast deals with this issue by allowing users to log into WoW with your own IP address. Instead of hiding your location, WTFast lets you report your true computer location to Blizzard, so you never have to worry about these account locks happening. If you are someone who would prefer to play through a WTFast IP, such as to play through a restricted network, or if you want to always play from the same IP while you are travelling, WTFast can also help with that since you have the option to play from the same WTFast IP every time you connect.
WTFast is the best service online, and we are always improving. Our application is secure and digitally signed; both McAfee and Norton have rated WTFast as safe. We have thousands of happy users with tons of positive 3rd party reviews and survey results. We are in the process of making a deal with a major game publisher to provide authorized services for their games - we are the real deal.
I am the founder of WTFast, occasionally I will pop online when I see people making statements about WTFast that are not true. Feel free to e-mail me directly at admin@WTFast.com if you have any questions. Mention this post and I can give you some free uninterrupted time to try WTFast out!
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I had a bet, with a friend offline, that the owner or someone similar would come here and defend their product as soon as made aware of this thread. And lo, in the end it turned into an advertisement.
That's the nature of the beast when it comes to money.
The response above is the faq taken from their website. No deviation. No personal opinion.
Canned.
Again, the use of service is not a violation, but remember you are using an outside source to intercept information from the main source to increase potential speed.
If buyers feel okay with that, more power to them. Yet, I can't help recall a quote people believe P.T. Barnum said . . . which in its own delicious irony he never did.
Let's just say, "Buyer beware," and leave it at that.
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I vote scam. 
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I vote scam.
Same here. All those services are scams to make some easy money, and don't really improve anything.
And if anything, the "one post wonder" copy/pasting the site advertising supports my opinion.
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Ardenwolfe posted:
I had a bet, with a friend offline, that the owner or someone similar would come here and defend their product as soon as made aware of this thread. And lo, in the end it turned into an advertisement.
That's the nature of the beast when it comes to money.
The response above is the faq taken from their website. No deviation. No personal opinion.
Canned.
Again, the use of service is not a violation, but remember you are using an outside source to intercept information from the main source to increase potential speed.
If buyers feel okay with that, more power to them. Yet, I can't help recall a quote people believe P.T. Barnum said . . . which in its own delicious irony he never did.
Let's just say, "Buyer beware," and leave it at that.
Obviously there is only so much I can say without it being labeled as BS.
If there are any trusted members from this forum who would be willing to do their own review of WTFast, I can give you a free month of uninterrupted service to try it out and see for yourself how we can help your connection. With Blizzard's new IP checking system, hacking WoW accounts is virtually impossible now. If someone from a different IP tries to get onto your account, it will automatically get locked until you secure it. Try it yourself by taking your laptop to another network or something. If the purpose of WTFast was to steal WoW accounts, I really doubt I would be here at this forum!
The main reason I pop onto the forums is because I am proud of the service and it works. Trust is pretty big in this market, and I understand that, which is the main reason I do this.  Note that users who will see the best results are users who are physically quite far from the WoW realm that they play on. If your latency is already quite good, WTFast might not help that much to reduce your latency. Another benefit to WTFast is that it increases the stability of your connection, less disconnects, better raid performance, etc.
I personally play from Kelowna BC in Canada and with WTFast I consistently play WoW with ping around 50 ms. This is pretty nice from Canada! If you look on Youtube, you can find a video interview with me (Rob Bartlett).
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WTFastPWNer posted:
If there are any trusted members from this forum who would be willing to do their own review of WTFast, I can give you a free month of uninterrupted service to try it out and see for yourself how we can help your connection. With Blizzard's new IP checking system, hacking WoW accounts is virtually impossible now. If someone from a different IP tries to get onto your account, it will automatically get locked until you secure it. Try it yourself by taking your laptop to another network or something. If the purpose of WTFast was to steal WoW accounts, I really doubt I would be here at this forum!
Offering a free month to 'review' or 'try it out' at best sounds like more advertisements and at worse sounds like a poor man's bribe.
Let's be clear about something.
Your first post on this board was to defend and advertise your product. The follow-up post does so even more.
While I cannot speak for everyone, no one is saying your website will steal anyone's account. What we are saying is it's questionable and your sudden appearance to boot does not help.
Now, if you were a long-standing member who offered substance with various posts here, I will bet money people would be more likely to listen.
But you're not.
You're a stranger offering free candy to the children.
See the problem?
Respectfully, you must realize people will doubt your word with so many scams involving World of Warcraft--especially from services such as you provide.
Perhaps, you would like to direct people who used your service to offer opinions as the OP asked?
That might serve you better as far as character witnesses instead of 'free' time. Otherwise, you're telling us none of your customers are happy enough with the product to sponsor your claims and you must bribe people here to get an endorsement.
Not exactly a winning sales pitch.
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Ardenwolfe posted:
If your account is damaged, stolen, or altered due to use of the service, Blizzard will not restore the account according to the Blue response.
Only thing I'd need to know. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
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WTFastPWNer posted:
I'm full of it, only wanting you to give me your money for a useless service.
We understood that from the first time you posted, no need to insist.
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Wow this board has really gotten sad. You've run out of members to talk down to, now you have to lower yourself to people giving additional info about their product after someone created a thread ASKING about it? You must be proud.
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siujoey posted:
Wow this board has really gotten sad. You've run out of members to talk down to, now you have to lower yourself to people giving additional info about their product after someone created a thread ASKING about it? You must be proud.
Or the person asking is the one advertising it.
There's a no advertisement rule on the VN's, people are allowed to be annoyed by it.
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Then the mods should take whatever action they think is appropriate. Someone asked for information, the founder came and gave some information. Advertising is annoying when it is pushed on you. (Check the top right of this screen for an example.) This is a guy answering a question and offering a way to try the service he's asking about for free. Ban him!!
Sad.
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I duno. Kinda opens a can of worms about what people think of proxy/tunneling services for use on wow. Continue.
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WTFastPWNer posted:
I personally play from Kelowna BC in Canada and with WTFast I consistently play WoW with ping around 50 ms. This is pretty nice from Canada!
That's because our interwebz are always frozen, eh. But I can crawl out of igloo and ask George, my pet moose, to sit on the strings and warm them up. Internet in Canada is all aboot the moose.
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Use this:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html
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I have never used this particular service. I have however helped friends in Europe, the Middle East and Australia set up and use such services.
If you are in the 800+ ping range then yes, stuff like this will benefit you greatly. If you are in the USA odds are it won't matter as much.
My issue with "most" of these services is, they are a PITA to setup. The often require multiple applications and some require you to purchase other software. In addition to that some of these services will not work with other applications. For example, one that I tried would totally block FireFox while I was running it. All of them will choke or disable other non-WOW internet traffic. Things like torrents, certain browsers, some downloads and even streaming music.
Mostly this is.. I have no choice WOW is unplayable my ping is so high..
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-Mithan- posted:
Use this:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html
That helps but, that and tunnel/proxy are two separate and completely different things.
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We have plenty of 3rd party feedback for WTFast, but I thought it would be easy enough for people to find this themselves without me giving links. But, if you want links, here they are:
3rd Party Ratepoint Reviews for WTFast:
http://ratepoint.com/seereviews/22641
Live Unfiltered Results from our User Survey (3000 respondents):
http://wtfast.com/surveyresults.aspx
WTFast reported safe by Norton:
http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http://www.wtfast.com
WTFast reported safe by Mcafee:
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/http://www.wtfast.com
Interview with myself (Rob Bartlett) at the LOGIN conference in Seattle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RshJe1kt4Bo
I offered free time to respected forum members here because if you are respected here, then your feedback about WTFast should be as well.
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Do many people victims of placebo results giving money for nothing... it's sad, really.
Another company abusing technologically ignorant people.
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-Mithan- posted:
Use this:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html
Was just going to post about that, I tried it this morning and it actually helps a lot, cut my ping to inside 100 and drops as low as 60 where I was getting 150-200 with before, crowded areas are not nearly as laggy now.
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Demorak posted:
siujoey posted:
Wow this board has really gotten sad. You've run out of members to talk down to, now you have to lower yourself to people giving additional info about their product after someone created a thread ASKING about it? You must be proud.
Or the person asking is the one advertising it.
There's a no advertisement rule on the VN's, people are allowed to be annoyed by it.
I am in no way affiliated with that program or it's creators, yesterday was the first time I learned of it's existence, and was just curious about it. It just so happens the intelligence level here far exceeds that of the official WoW forum thus why I asked here.
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Then the mods should take whatever action they think is appropriate. Someone asked for information, the founder came and gave some information. Advertising is annoying when it is pushed on you. (Check the top right of this screen for an example.) This is a guy answering a question and offering a way to try the service he's asking about for free. Ban him!!
Sad.
I don't recall where anyone asked for him to be banned. Let's not overdramatize.
However, I would like you to try the free service he is offering and then report back the results to the community.
If it's positive, we have a member who can validate it with firsthand knowledge. The website's founder will then have someone here who can vouche for his product.
If it's neutral, with little to no noticeable change, again we have a member who can validate it. Since no change occurs, assumptions about its lack of effect will show with proof.
If it's negative, once you clean out the bugs from your computer, we once again have a member who can validate the negative upon their return. If they return. . . .
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Sociop posted:
Demorak posted:
Or the person asking is the one advertising it.
There's a no advertisement rule on the VN's, people are allowed to be annoyed by it.
I am in no way affiliated with that program or it's creators, yesterday was the first time I learned of it's existence, and was just curious about it. It just so happens the intelligence level here far exceeds that of the official WoW forum thus why I asked here.
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The only reason I would never use a service like this is the fact that Blizzard stated they will not restore a hacked account using it.
Even if the service itself is not a scam, If I manage to get hacked by an unrelated source Blizzard would still not restore my account because of this. It is like voiding the warranty on your account, I won't risk that.
My ping is usually pretty good, I don't have any real lag problems. I'm not as low as 50ms, but I am always under 200ms.
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Skimmed through, thought I would touch on some points...
1. WTFast is not a "placebo", it actually gets results. If you would quickly check out our survey results you would see this (http://wtfast.com/surveyresults.aspx). The survey is unbiased and you can see how WTFast has reduced latency, reduced disconnections, reduced lag spikes, and improved performance in situations with lots of players (like raids or BGs). WTFast is being used by entire guilds, by winning arena teams, at Internet cafes and by troops overseas. If WTFast was snake oil, this would not be happening and users would not continue renewing their accounts month to month.
2. Leatrix does work for many users. A very important caveat however, and they state this in their own FAQ... Leatrix makes a good connection better, it will not make a bad connection better. In other words, if you already have a pretty good connection, Leatrix might help you squeeze a little bit of extra speed out of it. If you have a bad connection however, Leatrix is likely to make it even worse. Ultimately what Leatrix does is break an important feature built into your Internet connection that is designed to help you if there are problems with it. With Leatrix installed, if your Internet ever does any real burps, you are going to feel it.
3. WTFast does not mess with your registry or your Internet settings - WTFast gives you a better path to the game servers. Basically we help you to avoid congestion, bottlenecks and traffic shaping that you might normally experience without WTFast. It is not quite as simple as it sounds - we always continue to improve the service to get the best results.
4. I'd like to see an official recent statement from Blizz stating that they would not restore a hacked account that used a proxy. This is ludicrous because virtually every hacked account would end up being played through a proxy so the hacker could hide their identity. With the new IP security that Blizz does, it shouldn't even be possible to hack accounts anymore - it is pretty slick.
*** Again, if any trusted members of this forum want to take up my offer for a free month of WTFast to review the service, just e-mail admin@wtfast.com. If you are concerned about the security of your WoW account, I can even PayPal you money to get a new WoW key to create a new account. If you already have ping consistently under 100ms, WTFast probably won't help you as much, so ideally whoever contacts me is someone who normally plays WoW 200ms or higher.
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Use this:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html
Was just going to post about that, I tried it this morning and it actually helps a lot, cut my ping to inside 100 and drops as low as 60 where I was getting 150-200 with before, crowded areas are not nearly as laggy now.
Dropped me down to 20ms in Org, nice find Mith!
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Use this:
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Thank you!!
I installed it and tried it out. Before, my latency/ping was 350-450. Now I'm 200 to 250. I'll get to see what it does w/ Bad Company 2 later today. Hopefully it can bring down the ping on that as well so I can stop getting kicked from some servers for high ping.
(Just alt tabbed back in to look and I'm under 200 now!)
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I would love to provide the link where a Blue stated as much, but unfortunately Blizzard erased their forums. If you do a web search, you can see hits to this information. Yet, when you click the link, it leads you to the new forums.
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WTFast is being used by entire guilds, by winning arena teams, at Internet cafes and by troops overseas. If WTFast was snake oil, this would not be happening and users would not continue renewing their accounts month to month.
Perhaps I'm being too subtle, so I'll say this again directly: Can you please ask one of those multitude of customers to provide an endorsement here? Naturally, if you can find one who already has an account with VN, it would be even better.
Offer them a free month if they will come here and back your claims.
Is that not fair?
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1. WTFast is not a "placebo", it actually gets results.
Sure thing. And we are supposed to believe you just because you pretend you are cool.
Give us a break. Your service is bullcrap only feeding on getting money from people who don't know better.
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"With Blizzard's new IP checking system, hacking WoW accounts is virtually impossible now."
Maybe this guy and his service are legit, I have no idea. But...
1) I would prefer to hear directly from Blizzard that it is impossible.
2) ANY claim that anything is impossible is usually not true.
3) This is the internet, always treat everything with a healthy dose of scepticism.
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I would love to provide the link where a Blue stated as much, but unfortunately Blizzard erased their forums. If you do a web search, you can see hits to this information. Yet, when you click the link, it leads you to the new forums.
WTFastPWNer posted:
WTFast is being used by entire guilds, by winning arena teams, at Internet cafes and by troops overseas. If WTFast was snake oil, this would not be happening and users would not continue renewing their accounts month to month.
Perhaps I'm being too subtle, so I'll say this again directly: Can you please ask one of those multitude of customers to provide an endorsement here? Naturally, if you can find one who already has an account with VN, it would be even better.
Offer them a free month if they will come here and back your claims.
Is that not fair?
i endorse this post..
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Skimmed through, thought I would touch on some points...
4.With the new IP security that Blizz does, it shouldn't even be possible to hack accounts anymore
Unless, you click on every link posted by morons with <10 posts, and get a keylogger from said link/destination. Nothing Blizz does can stop that type of "hacking", which is the most prevalent form by far.
Either peddle your wares on a less informed populace, or stfu and accept the verbal thrashing you are going to receive here.
If you were honest about providing a legit service, I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't attempt to work with Blizzard to get the word out about such a "useful" tool.
On the contrary, Blizz has stated that hacked accounts that use your service will NOT be restored...
Now why would they say such a thing?
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And this is what we have to work against. I can completely eliminate all risk by offering a free WTFast account and even a free WoW account to try WTFast out; I can offer links to 3rd party feedback, unbiased survey results, etc. and still there are doubters that call WTFast snake oil without even trying it.
When I started this business there are many, many tech-savvy users that told me that what I wanted to do with WTFast is impossible but through empirical evidence I showed them that they were wrong. Obviously I am fighting a losing battle at this forum. Just remember WTFast now, and when someone you know recommends WTFast to you a few weeks down the road, or when you see us making deals with major game publishers, maybe you will take WTFast more seriously!
*** Edit - Regarding the supposed blue post by Blizzard stating that people using proxies that get hacked would not be restored... I know of several blue posts that stated there is nothing wrong with using a proxy and using a proxy will NEVER get your WoW account banned. Obviously not all of the blue posts are correct. Think logically, with thousands and thousands of users on proxies, Blizzard is not going to ban an account unless they actually have good reason to do so. Using a proxy alone is never enough, as has been stated by Blizzard several times. ***
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Maybe I'll open up a ticket ingame and talk to a GM about this service.
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I recommend taking up my offer on a free WTFast/WoW account so you can test for yourself how Blizzard's new IP security works. You will be able to see that hacking your WoW account is now virtually impossible.
1. Use WTFast with "login with my own IP address" enabled, you will never receive an account lock message.
2. Use WTFast with "login with my own IP address" disabled. Manually choose different WTFast servers, each time you choose a different server/IP, you will generate a new account lock message, requiring you to change your password (since you are using a different IP each time).
Now imagine a hacker even trying to "hack" your account, as soon as they even try to log in from a different IP, the account will be locked by battle.net and they will never be able to do any damage to it.
The one thing a GM might commment on is related to the issue of IPs changing, but we have already addressed this problem with WTFast.
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WTFastPWNer posted:
And this is what we have to work against. I can completely eliminate all risk by offering a free WTFast account and even a free WoW account to try WTFast out; I can offer links to 3rd party feedback, unbiased survey results, etc. and still there are doubters that call WTFast snake oil without even trying it.
When I started this business there are many, many tech-savvy users that told me that what I wanted to do with WTFast is impossible but through empirical evidence I showed them that they were wrong. Obviously I am fighting a losing battle at this forum. Just remember WTFast now, and when someone you know recommends WTFast to you a few weeks down the road, or when you see us making deals with major game publishers, maybe you will take WTFast more seriously!
*** Edit - Regarding the supposed blue post by Blizzard stating that people using proxies that get hacked would not be restored... I know of several blue posts that stated there is nothing wrong with using a proxy and using a proxy will NEVER get your WoW account banned. Obviously not all of the blue posts are correct. Think logically, with thousands and thousands of users on proxies, Blizzard is not going to ban an account unless they actually have good reason to do so. Using a proxy alone is never enough, as has been stated by Blizzard several times. ***
Have fun playing Cataclysm!
We call every link posted by brand new account holders snake oil. Don't assume for an instant that you are special.
No one said they were going to ban an account for using a proxy. We said that account wouldn't be restored if it were hacked by someone such as yourself, advertising a proxy.
You have yet to even state that your program does not contain a keylogger, virus, trojan, or any other malicious wares.
I bet you have a disclaimer in your setup that states "being detected as a trojan is normal, please disable your virus protection when installing this software.."
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I vote scam.
A legit business does not come on a forum like this trying to sell users on how great their service is, and put "PWN" in the user name. I think a legit business relies on their own forum, and the positive feedback on it, plus advertising.
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*** Edit - Regarding the supposed blue post by Blizzard stating that people using proxies that get hacked would not be restored... I know of several blue posts that stated there is nothing wrong with using a proxy and using a proxy will NEVER get your WoW account banned. Obviously not all of the blue posts are correct. Think logically, with thousands and thousands of users on proxies, Blizzard is not going to ban an account unless they actually have good reason to do so. Using a proxy alone is never enough, as has been stated by Blizzard several times.
This is true.
Ardenwolfe posted:
However.
If your account is damaged, stolen, or altered due to use of the service, Blizzard will not restore the account according to the Blue response.
Previous users also reported an increase in viruses, trojans, and the like after use. Not all users, as some claim otherwise, but enough for people to take notice.
This is also true.
Quite a quandary, eh?
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Didn't take long to find someone who was banned for "suspicious activity re: exploitation of the economy" for simply sending gold to a guildy.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Cf4sHeIdWQgJ:forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html%3FtopicId%3D26560845972%26sid%3D1+site:worldo fwarcraft.com+wtfast+ban&cd=19&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
/shrug
Some small percentage of users might see a benefit from your service but the risks for the average user simply outweigh the benefits. I'd say, if you have enough of a problem that you just can't stay connected or your pings are so high as to be unplayable, it _might_ be worth the risk as the game is basically unplayable already, right? Ban or can't move in org...tough choice there lol.
[edit] Yes, we know already: "but we don't mask IPs like those nasty, mean, smelly ol' other sites do!" Run with that. It'll keep people from doing their own cost/benefit analysis.
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So . . . you cannot get a single one of the legion of customers to come here and endorse your product.
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GutterSludge posted:
WTFastPWNer posted:
And this is what we have to work against. I can completely eliminate all risk by offering a free WTFast account and even a free WoW account to try WTFast out; I can offer links to 3rd party feedback, unbiased survey results, etc. and still there are doubters that call WTFast snake oil without even trying it.
When I started this business there are many, many tech-savvy users that told me that what I wanted to do with WTFast is impossible but through empirical evidence I showed them that they were wrong. Obviously I am fighting a losing battle at this forum. Just remember WTFast now, and when someone you know recommends WTFast to you a few weeks down the road, or when you see us making deals with major game publishers, maybe you will take WTFast more seriously!
*** Edit - Regarding the supposed blue post by Blizzard stating that people using proxies that get hacked would not be restored... I know of several blue posts that stated there is nothing wrong with using a proxy and using a proxy will NEVER get your WoW account banned. Obviously not all of the blue posts are correct. Think logically, with thousands and thousands of users on proxies, Blizzard is not going to ban an account unless they actually have good reason to do so. Using a proxy alone is never enough, as has been stated by Blizzard several times. ***
Have fun playing Cataclysm!
We call every link posted by brand new account holders snake oil. Don't assume for an instant that you are special.
No one said they were going to ban an account for using a proxy. We said that account wouldn't be restored if it were hacked by someone such as yourself, advertising a proxy.
You have yet to even state that your program does not contain a keylogger, virus, trojan, or any other malicious wares.
I bet you have a disclaimer in your setup that states "being detected as a trojan is normal, please disable your virus protection when installing this software.."
I wasn't actually the one here to start the thread about WTFast, I did come here to defend it.
If WTFast is such a bad thing, why does Fileplanet/IGN have an approved download for it?:
http://www.fileplanet.com/210397/210000/fileinfo/World-of-Warcraft---WTFast-Lag-Reducer
McAfee and Norton rate us as safe, this implies that WTFast is not malicious, doesn't it?
My point regarding the new IP checking system by Blizzard is that it is now virtually impossible for a WoW account to be hacked. This can easily be tested with WTFast by turning "login with my own IP" off and on with WTFast. If your account cannot be hacked, then any result from that, good or bad, is not really an issue.
I say "virtually" impossible because theoretically it would be possible for a hacker to remote control your PC or use it as a proxy and access your WoW account this way without generating an account lock since they would actually be using your IP. The probability of this happening is quite low since any sub-par anti-virus or firewall program will stop this. Even if this were to happen, I am not sure the latency/response would be good enough for the hacker to even play WoW through your computer in the first place.
WTFast is now 1 year old, if there was a security concern with WTFast, don't you think that it would have been exposed by now? Someone posted a message regarding someone using a different proxy service (that hid the users IP) and transferring gold, resulting in a suspension. This did not happen with WTFast, and it would never happen if you just use "login with my own IP".
What makes better business sense?
1. Help users to improve their gameplay and collect growing monthly recurring fees from our users.
2. Hack a few WoW accounts, get massive negative PR and be out of business in a few months.
I'll see if I can get some users to come here to vouch for WTFast, but why is that even necessary when we already have tons of 3rd party and unbiased feedback from our users?
It is a good point that maybe I am wasting my time here and I am better off spending it doing something else - sometimes when I have some time to kill I like to visit the forums!
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I figured out the deal..
A lot of this guys clients were playing on private servers..to which of course, Blizz has applied the proverbial legal smack down.
Now hes here trying to drum up new business, since the private servers are scared to run anymore.
What kills me is that we have to drag all of this out of the guy, like pulling teeth.
A. Your product resembles hacker behavior, and increases the chance for its user to be banned by Warden.
B. Use of your product inspires Blizzard to NOT help users if they should be hacked.
C. You have zero problem helping people violate the EULA, and TOS, by connecting to a private realm, and actually improved said connection willingly and intentionally.
D. You claim to have come here to "defend" your product, but failed to disclose any and all of this, forcing us to drag it out of you.
E. You CHARGE for all of this headache.
I give you an "F" in defense of your product.
I give your product an "F" for endangering a persons account (see A and B)
I give you AND your product an "F" for enabling people to play on illegal, private servers, and your disregard for the EULA and TOS.
Get the "F" outta here.
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I figured out the deal..
A lot of this guys clients were playing on private servers..to which of course, Blizz has applied the proverbial legal smack down.
Now hes here trying to drum up new business, since the private servers are scared to run anymore.
What kills me is that we have to drag all of this out of the guy, like pulling teeth.
A. Your product resembles hacker behavior, and increases the chance for its user to be banned by Warden.
B. Use of your product inspires Blizzard to NOT help users if they should be hacked.
C. You have zero problem helping people violate the EULA, and TOS, by connecting to a private realm, and actually improved said connection willingly and intentionally.
D. You claim to have come here to "defend" your product, but failed to disclose any and all of this, forcing us to drag it out of you.
E. You CHARGE for all of this headache.
I give you an "F" in defense of your product.
I give your product an "F" for endangering a persons account (see A and B)
I give you AND your product an "F" for enabling people to play on illegal, private servers, and your disregard for the EULA and TOS.
Get the "F" outta here.
WTFast can be used to help any TCP based games. If someone decides to use WTFast for a private server, we cannot control that. We do not promote or support this. Your argument is similar to condemning an Internet provider because they allow someone to connect to private servers. It is not something they can control and it is not something we can control.
But why would a user do this at all? If they aren't going to pay for WoW, why would they pay for WTFast? That isn't logical is it?
I am not going to continue to defend and repeat myself here. WTFast does not resemble hacker behavior because you are logging in with your own IP address. WTFast is a safe service that gets reults. I have been playing WOW since release and I use my own personal account for testing WTFast all the time, with different IPs, to test account locks, etc. - my account has never been suspended.
I have to run, we have to get ready for Cataclysm (yes, real servers, not private servers). We are also in the process of finalizing a deal with a major publisher. WTFast is here to stay, we have thousands of users and we are growing. Hopefully you will remember my forum appearance as they will be less frequent in the future. Everyone have fun with Cataclysm!
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WTFastPWNer posted:
GutterSludge posted:
I figured out the deal..
A lot of this guys clients were playing on private servers..to which of course, Blizz has applied the proverbial legal smack down.
Now hes here trying to drum up new business, since the private servers are scared to run anymore.
What kills me is that we have to drag all of this out of the guy, like pulling teeth.
A. Your product resembles hacker behavior, and increases the chance for its user to be banned by Warden.
B. Use of your product inspires Blizzard to NOT help users if they should be hacked.
C. You have zero problem helping people violate the EULA, and TOS, by connecting to a private realm, and actually improved said connection willingly and intentionally.
D. You claim to have come here to "defend" your product, but failed to disclose any and all of this, forcing us to drag it out of you.
E. You CHARGE for all of this headache.
I give you an "F" in defense of your product.
I give your product an "F" for endangering a persons account (see A and B)
I give you AND your product an "F" for enabling people to play on illegal, private servers, and your disregard for the EULA and TOS.
Get the "F" outta here.
WTFast can be used to help any TCP based games. If someone decides to use WTFast for a private server, we cannot control that. We do not promote or support this. Your argument is similar to condemning an Internet provider because they allow someone to connect to private servers. It is not something they can control and it is not something we can control.
But why would a user do this at all? If they aren't going to pay for WoW, why would they pay for WTFast? That isn't logical is it?
I am not going to continue to defend and repeat myself here. WTFast does not resemble hacker behavior because you are logging in with your own IP address. WTFast is a safe service that gets reults. I have been playing WOW since release and I use my own personal account for testing WTFast all the time, with different IPs, to test account locks, etc. - my account has never been suspended.
I have to run, we have to get ready for Cataclysm (yes, real servers, not private servers). We are also in the process of finalizing a deal with a major publisher. WTFast is here to stay, we have thousands of users and we are growing. Hopefully you will remember my forum appearance as they will be less frequent in the future. Everyone have fun with Cataclysm!
Lol I don't know why, but I like this guy.
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WTFast can be used to help any TCP based games. If someone decides to use WTFast for a private server, we cannot control that.
We will turn a blind eye in the name of a buck.
WTFastPWNer posted:
But why would a user do this at all? If they aren't going to pay for WoW, why would they pay for WTFast? That isn't logical is it?
Why would they pay for internet? Rent? Food? And they did pay on private servers, they were just called "donations"..
Trying to "snow" this community with that is what defies logic.
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I am not going to continue to defend and repeat myself here.
Funny, if someone were belittling my product, I would defend it to the death, unless they were right..
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WTFast does not resemble hacker behavior because you are logging in with your own IP address.
Then why did we need your service again? Oh, thats right, so you can sniif login and pw data from us..and do the 5 minute authenticator swap? Gotyah.
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We are also in the process of finalizing a deal with a major publisher.
Then why are you here again?
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Good God Gutter, nothing this guy says or does is going to satisfy your (legitimate) concerns and we all know it. First you argue with him for defending his product and now you criticize him for not wanting to argue with you anymore. 
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Mmmm... providing services. Is that what wow scams are called these days?
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If you connect to a proxy or vpn that has a 'much' better connection to your wow server than your own ISP then you should
a: use it
b: change your ISP or
c: move in next door to a Blizzard server and guess its' wifi wpa2 password.
Truth is, unless you are on a different continent these services wont improve lag too much.
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I went and looked at his website..
He actually has a pyramid scheme going.... you buy keys, and sell them to your "buddies", and get paid x amount for each subscription "you" bring to the site...(but only if the amount reaches 100 dollars)
Which of course also requires a permanent "cookie" be placed on your "buddies" computer, for "record keeping" purposes..
I dunno..I though people stopped falling for pyramid's in the late 90's..but I suppose this is a new generation...
and of course, he didn't mention this either....
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Used this service when I lived in the boonies and had Satellite Internet.
It improved my latency from over 1000ms to about 400ms. Allowing me to play lag free.
It works.
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GutterSludge posted:
I went and looked at his website..
He actually has a pyramid scheme going.... you buy keys, and sell them to your "buddies", and get paid x amount for each subscription "you" bring to the site...(but only if the amount reaches 100 dollars)
Which of course also requires a permanent "cookie" be placed on your "buddies" computer, for "record keeping" purposes..
I dunno..I though people stopped falling for pyramid's in the late 90's..but I suppose this is a new generation...
and of course, he didn't mention this either....
Many legit companies offer a referal bonus. In fact, WoW does. Only disadvantage to wow is it is just one time not on going.
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pattongb posted:
Used this service when I lived in the boonies and had Satellite Internet.
It improved my latency from over 1000ms to about 400ms. Allowing me to play lag free.
It works.
There you go.
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Wow sorry to dig up an old thread. But i saw this one after searching google for "retarded wtfast ads" (which have popped up on so many sites recently that i got forced into installing adblock. And generally im insanely lazy.)
OK so i read through the topic and it seems like most of you guys are just taking a crap on this guy without even knowing what his service actually does. Fun fact is that he tries to defend it without actually saying what it is. But nvm that.
This service only works well for people with mega high connections to wow servers, but otherwise fine connections to their own countries websites etc. Read: Chinese. What it does it that it channels your connection through their server which has a better interconnection to blizzards servers etc.
So i theory this actually only helps for like 0,5% of all wow players. Therefore its a massive scam to advertise it EVERY FUCKING WHERE. Like if you have a dial up it aint' gonna give u lower ping. It just aint. But if you have a t1 on the north pole and wanna play wow, it might help if they got a server on the north pole too.
I use a service like this aswell, to avoid my schools proxy so i can play wow in school. Never got an email, and it changes my IP. This service im using actually lowers my connection, alot. Im sure if i used the schools network (if it wasnt restricted) id have 8-12ms, now i have 45ms. But i can play.
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So, you don't like his service, and google "retarded wtfast ads"...
You use a service "like" his, but come here to "push" his? (without giving the name of the service "like" his that you use..?)
Reading between the lines, you are the same person, on a different login, pushing the same thing as before.
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Compiz posted:
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Is ardenvolfe always so hostile. Way to go man.
He melts down pretty frequently. If he gets obsessed enough with you, he'll even put you in his sig!
You're new though, so you've probably got a long way to go 
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