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Kriegprojekt 
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Subject: Warlock or Mage?
For all around most 5-man/raid utility and damage, which would play the better rolls? WHat class would you rather have in your group if you could only pick one?

 

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Mage, we need portals.

 

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I vote mage. Now take it with a grain of salt I have not paid either for a long time, but I did play both to 70.

I say mage because you get

Portals
Food/Water

And the way I look at the balancing, and someone with more knowledge please correct me if I am wrong, I have always felt with pet classes that they have the potential to be less potent then non-pet classes. My reasoning here is if the classes are true balanced (yeah yeah yeah that is another thread) then part of your classes damage potential is in your pet. If for whatever reason your pet is killed, disabled, whatever your over all damage potential and ultility are comprimised.

If you don't have a pet then all of your potential is available to you at all times.

 

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If mages aren't the new FOTM, I don't know what is. =P

 

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Subject: Warlock or Mage?
Mage's seem to be kings of the DPS charts now so I would lean in that direction.

 

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Right now, mages are the kings of DPS. As far as utility, that's up in the air of opinion.

Warlocks offer portals from a location, healthstones, indirect rezzes, and fear.

Mages offer portals to a location, mana (crack), and polymorph . . . if I recall.

Personally, despite what you'll hear, I recommend warlock. Unless you're certain of a group all the time, warlocks still solo things most mages wouldn't dream of taking on.

Demonology is no joke if done right.

But, for a 5-man raid? Yes, mage. Just hope your tank knows how to hold aggro.

Just my humble opinion.

 

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For soloing elite quests = warlock
For everything else = mage

 

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Other than being ranged casters, they're totally different play-styles. They're both a lot of fun IMO... if anything tilts me towards mage, it's that I just don't like managing pets very much, and good warlocks have to make good use of their pets.

 

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lol it's pretty apparent that most people in this thread have never played an Arcane Mage.

 

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lol it's pretty apparent that most people in this thread have never played an Arcane Mage.


By far the most boring class I have ever played.

 

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Kordirn posted:
_Kewk_ posted:
lol it's pretty apparent that most people in this thread have never played an Arcane Mage.


By far the most boring class I have ever played.


I still don't get how with the revamp they still think that pressing 2 buttons is OK.

 

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I have both...

 

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heiromancerdrackus posted:
Kordirn posted:
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lol it's pretty apparent that most people in this thread have never played an Arcane Mage.


By far the most boring class I have ever played.


I still don't get how with the revamp they still think that pressing 2 buttons is OK.

With all the changes you're going to see mages that will be the main CC class now IMO.

 

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Frost mages are nearly indestructible. I HATE coming across them in the BG's, they shield themselves and just go to town on people's asses with that irritating pet shooting away.

Warlocks kill sooo quickly.

But gear is needed to make them work. Without good gear you have nothing.

 

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heiromancerdrackus posted:
I still don't get how with the revamp they still think that pressing 2 buttons is OK.


I had a 2-button rotation. My DPS increased when I switched to a 1-button rotation. Once my arcane blast keybound button wore out I shelved him and played another class. Less DPS now but more fun happy

 

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Ardenwolfe posted:
Right now, mages are the kings of DPS.


wrong

come cata? wrong

 

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Oh? Come Cataclysm, who will be FotM?

Right now, as someone mentioned, they top the DPS charts.

Edit: I'll guess you're thinking rogues. But even so, to be completely fair, no one truly knows who will top the DPS charts until we reach the level cap with all the additional gear, talents, and the like.

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I know all the FP's, Zep and Boat routes so portals isn't a big deal to me. Being able to summon me right where you want me though, that is pretty cool. My SP and Ele Shammy appreciate the Int buff and water so that is in the Mages favor. The nice thing about Locks is, just as with my SP, even when we are in a running battle with a boss we are still doing nice dps as our DOT's tick away. In the end though, I'll take either as long as they know their class.

 

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Roll a gnomish lock!

I rotate between my affliction lock and feral druid depending on how I feel. I believe locks also have some more reliable CC now if you glyph for it. I've never played demo, but destruction can be fun if you have decent gear.

Dot drive-bys never get old either. You'd be surprised how many players (and their friends) don't know were their decurse button is.

 

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mage. i hate getting stuck with warlocks

 

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Kordirn posted:
_Kewk_ posted:
lol it's pretty apparent that most people in this thread have never played an Arcane Mage.


By far the most boring class I have ever played.


I never said it was the most fun and or difficult class to play?

 

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Dums posted:
Ardenwolfe posted:
Right now, mages are the kings of DPS.


wrong

come cata? wrong



What class are you banking on?

 

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Well, even with the 'nerf' that hit warlocks recently, warlocks are ahead of mages by quite a large margin in Cata dps. Mages aren't looking so hot right now, though I'm sure it'll change later in the expansion.

Most of it centers around mana issues.

 

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Interesting.

I guess we'll see if that plays out.

 

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I have both. I have tanked and healed for both.


With the new changes, they both bring utility and CC.


Depending on spec, there's some serious DPS flying around for both.


If you are starting from scratch, and are planning to solo, I'd suggest warlock, just because there's less downtime.


I know everybody is pointing at portals. Seriously, how important are those? With a group's ability to use the DF to get someplace (and back again), a warlock's ability to summon, a meeting stone, flight, 30 min hearthstones, it's a nice to have. I don't know that I'd call it a make-it-or-break-it decision on group comp.


Which one strikes your fancy? Which one feels better (fits you best) and does any of the new race/class combo cause you to lean one way or the other?



Would love to have a magic 8-ball that lets our guild know which class/group combo is gonna rock in the different instances, with the new CC, and which one will be generically "most wanted". It's just too soon to tell, and I suspect there will continue to be adjustments to both classes and instances after Cata comes out. We have 3 warlock players in our guild, who LOVE the class, love the playstyle, and that is what they are sticking with. plain

 

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I played a mage as my second character in Vanilla WoW. Raiding MC and BWL with him, lol. My biggest gripe was that I always got toally stomped in PvP. Now this was a large part due to my skill and before they gave mages all the survivability tools they have now.

 

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Mage, more utility to a group.

 

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Mage, more utility to a group.


How so? Warlock brings just as much utility

 

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