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Ravynmagi 
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Subject: Hate Warsong Gulch
Geez, why did Blizzard have to ruin my holiday weekend by making Warsong Gultch the Call to Arms battleground?

Worst battleground ever! tongue

 

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They all suck.

We need newness.

 

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IMO WSG and AB suck because it takes forever to get rep for the respective factions. Whihc is why I'm always in AV.

 

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I had a lot of fun in AB recenlty. I was trying to level at the time so I stopped because it wasn't enough XP based on the time it took to complete, even being call to arms that weekend, but if you are in it for the fun alone I had lots.

As a resto Shaman I was able to hold my node against a Druid and a hunter, keeping myself alive and making sure they couldn't cap the node. I lasted a good 5 minutes for sure I was finally going down when the round ended but I was quite impressed.

As elemental spec I always defended lumbermill, because of the thunderstorm pushback ability, sending multiple people off the cliff to their deaths was great fun.

 

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Subject: Hate Warsong Gulch
Spookysheep posted:
They all suck.

We need newness.

Some BGs suck because they're old, but WSG sucked even when it was new, and has carried on sucking for five-ish years now.

 

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wsg is my favorite

 

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WSG is my favorite BG and the only one I consistently play plain

 

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WSG and AB are great with decent players (assuming you actually play the BG as intended and you're not just there to kill).

EotS and AV are at least halfway decent even when your team is pretty stupid.

All of them suck when your team isn't half as good as your opponents.

 

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^this

 

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Subject: Hate Warsong Gulch
I've been pleasantly surprised this weekend. Normally I'm not much of a fan of WSG, but I've won about 60% of the games I've played. I'm playing ally on hellscream server and in the low end bracket 10-14 and 15-19 range.

 

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I actually enjoy Strand of the Ancients more and more. It's quick, over in 15 minutes (or less), and if with a good team who knows what to do, or against a defense that doesn't, it's pretty exhilerating. Easily the best of the 'vehicle' mechanic ones.

 

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WSG before the time limit could be painful. Now even if the teams are fairly evenly matched it still ends in a reasonable length of time. The only problem I have seen is when the more powerful team in a mismatch doesn't cap the flag and instead only farms the lesser team for honor.

 

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Subject: Hate Warsong Gulch
Eternal_Midnight posted:
I actually enjoy Strand of the Ancients more and more. It's quick, over in 15 minutes (or less), and if with a good team who knows what to do, or against a defense that doesn't, it's pretty exhilerating. Easily the best of the 'vehicle' mechanic ones.


I wish they'd pop the newer BG's into lower level brackets. sad

 

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Subject: Hate Warsong Gulch
Spookysheep posted:
They all suck.

We need newness.


I think rotating maps using a group of standard rule sets would have helped a long time ago. I never understood why each BG has to have a unique/slightly modified rule set.

I agree with the OP that WSG is the worst. Turtling, GY camping and glitching (at least in the past) make it one of the most frustrating BGs.

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WSG before the time limit could be painful. Now even if the teams are fairly evenly matched it still ends in a reasonable length of time. The only problem I have seen is when the more powerful team in a mismatch doesn't cap the flag and instead only farms the lesser team for honor.


I've always hated PvP in WoW for two reasons. Gear imbalances and a players who don't play to win, which is Blizzard's fault from how they created the PvP reward system. I'll never understand why better players are rewarded with better gear, which increases the gear imbalance problem and exacerbates the need to grind out honor to get better gear in order to be competitive.

 

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Subject: Hate Warsong Gulch
I usually love WSG, but I'm not going to lie I had to rage quit lastnight out of one. No one would get the flag back or get the flag. They are all mid or near the enemy gy even as the enemy flag carrier walks right by them. So enemy caps, DUH!

So then I try 3 or 4 times until I actually grab the flag and make it out alive. I make it to our base where now everyone is turtling even though enemy capped last! "SOMEONE has to go get the flag back people. All of you here is a sure fail. We can't ever win if they don't drop that flag and we will eventually drop it as they continue to send people in." (said shorter than that)

No one moves.

Ok, honestly guys, we have 10 minutes. We need some people to go get the flag back.

No one moves.

I go to my secret hiding spot so that nobody even knows where I am and they are still standing there... guarding an empty flag stand. Not 1 person would go on O.

A baddie finds me so I jump into the room where they are guarding the empty flag stand. I get killed but take the guy out with me. The flag drops and is just sitting there on the ground as 3 of our people stare at it. It finally auto returns from being on the ground too long.

/afk



 

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i like the bgs without vehicles/npcs. i am old school..just wanna stab some peeps.

 

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WSG has its good and bad. You get a lot of dumb people in it for sure. The nice part is a smaller battle field. On a rogue alt, it's lotsa fun.

WSG is the simplest of all BGs and people still fail at it. AB is pretty simple too and plenty fail at it. Then for some reason people who suck at both do ok in EOTS, which is like a combo of the two. It's kinda mind boggling.

I like AV the least, because racing thru it cheapens it and is the "best" way to do it for max honor. AV is best as a drawn out slugfest as designed, but few people want to go thru 1-2 hour BGs. Even so AV kinda sucks. It'd be nice to have a 40 on 40 BG that was more battle intensive and less cheese-oriented. AV is either or a miserable turtle. There has to be a way to do 40 on 40 with more combat (not just a race) without the turtle and misery of choke point lemming suicide battles.

 

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