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The_Clav 
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Gloves off.

I have record of what you told me and my kids. My oldest son read all your pm's to me to my wife. She has an intense dislike for you, and that would be an understatement.

You can't even parent your own kids, yet you presume to tell me how to parent mine?

I tried to be respectful when I left your guild. And honestly, given your treatment of my kids, that was hard to do.

You have manipulated the situation, and had the nerve to say that I did. I have always been honest and straight forward.

I feel sorry for those that take your word to heart.

You are a little person with a little heart.

Craig

 

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Ya know Clav, this is months old. You had a disagreement. You didn't get your way. You are supposed to be an adult. Let it drop. Go play the game or not. No one is harrassing you, but you are getting borderline.

And by the way, I have 3 kids that have played this game. ALL kids get on ppls nerves from time to time. My kids have been told no to quests, being in guilds and have been booted from guilds. They whine about it, I tell them its a learning experience. Getting your feelings hurt and being told no is part of life.

YOU however, are an adult. Pal's problem with you is just that, a problem with you. This post of yours is a prime example of why she doesn't want to be around you. Just let it drop.

 

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o.0

 

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Bone_King_we posted:
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Wow Clav get a life as Cas said this is months old and you need to shut up now. Leave us alone we don't bother you stop bothering us.

This is nothing to do with your kids. This is about you being an adult and letting it drop now.
Also you were not respectful when you left the guild you pop up and send to tells to us or have you forgotten. You like to make trouble and this post is prime example of it. No one has spoken about this issue in months and out of the blue you bring it up.
Please do us all a favor and let it go.


Thank you.

 

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Clav, not to tell you what to do with your kids or your wife... but if you want to save them such painful emotions, maybe you should delete months old personal messages that they might find hurtful.

This might be taking Paloma's word to heart (please don't feel sorry for me) rather than your "honest and straight forward" version of things, but the only impression I have gotten for months now is that Paloma wants you squelched. As in not talking about the dead horse anymore, no matter what new insights you might have about its colour or breed or the amazing tricks it once did and might do again.

Also as in, not creating new threads to memorialize the dead horse either.

 

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I no longer play so it really doesn't affect me if you play or not but seriously all you are is drama. Nobody would care if you quit, so stop being a little bitch and just enjoy the damn game. You always seem to make something that isn't a big deal into something big.

 

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God, i miss the old days when we would have drama like this every week.

 

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Hmmmm....I try to stay out of things like this but I feel I need to comment on this also.

First of all it is obvious that you want to "start" something by bringing it to the boards since this topic supposedly died months ago. At least it died to everyone else but you.

You know NOTHING of Paloma or how she raises her kids in RL. Have you ever seen her kids? They are some of the most well behaved kids i have ever met. They would NEVER act the way you or your children have in AC.

Like everyone else has said LET the horse go back to being dead. Let it go and stop being a drama queen and bringing up stuff that is old.

Oh i am sure you know that actions speak louder than words and it seems that we might take her words to heart because, maybe, of the way she "acts". You don't see her coming here and bad mouthing you and you don't see her doing it in AC. I rest my case.

You are an adult is this setting a good example for your children??

Enough said.

Hi WE been a while since I have said anything on here.

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Oh i am sure you know that actions speak louder than words and it seems that we might take her words to heart because, maybe, of the way she "acts". You don't see her coming here and bad mouthing you and you don't see her doing it in AC. I rest my case.

You are an adult is this setting a good example for your children??

Enough said.







I so agree with this! and Hugs back Willow!!

 

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As in not talking about the dead horse anymore, no matter what new insights you might have about its colour or breed or the amazing tricks it once did and might do again.



Oh snap.

I have no idea what's going on, I just appreciate epic burnage.

 

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Since I know Paloma hasn't spoken to you in months (she has had you squelched), why are you bringing this all up again? You seriously need a life. You consistently blow things out of proportion, which I know from personal experience with you. Get over it...play the game or don't play the game...I could care less. I personally choose to squelch you and your children myself in game, which is my prerogative. You, because I can't handle your long dissertations about about how everyone is against you and your children because, one chooses to grief kills and quests and the other one rambles on and on in general about nothing.

 

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Clav, please listen to what people have already said here, they are giving you some good advice. Just let this drop, I remember your post from a while back (which was very similar to this), and the exact same advice was given then. This is now almost becoming an obsession considering that you started this thread out of the blue, especially as Pal seems to be doing her best to avoid these situations (i.e. squelching you, if that's true).

I also suggest to you some light reading: http://vnboardsadmin.ign.com/rules/vnforumrules3.htm#Flaming,_Harassment,_Bashing,_Baiting,_Threats_and_Trolling

Particularly this: "threatening people or just directly provoking or baiting people just for the purpose of getting a negative reaction is not allowed on our forums...We expect posters here to respect each other, even if they disagree and dislike each other, so please keep personal disputes off our forums."

As far as I can see, Pal has always tried to prevent these personal disputes from becoming public, which is more than can be said for you. Understand that most people (that's right, not just Pal, which can already been seen by a fair number of people in this thread) have a problem with the way you deal with things and react to things. Nothing to do with your children.

You're meant to play this game for enjoyment. Behaving like this only ruins the game for you and your children, not to mention the countless other players who are forced to listen to it, and it does you no favours. Let it drop, move on, and enjoy playing the game with your kids.

 

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What did I miss?

 

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almost makes me want to resub .... just let them PvP it out ...... winner gets the gear

 

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What happen to ignore people and squelch?
(no ones side)
























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-Dyslexia- posted:
Wanobe_WE posted:



God, i miss the old days when we would have drama like this every week.

And you could banstick them? grin

 

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Yeah, I know....let it go.

I had a friend...a good friend. Someone who I confided things to that few knew.

We came to a point that we disagreed on some issues. Chris? I 100% understood. Our issues went beyond that, however.

I tried to talk to my friend. As I am well aware of the inherent pitfalls in emails/pms I asked my friend to call so we could better communicate. We had discussed issues on the phone before in the past so I didn't see this as being an issue.

The reply I got was short and sweet, and basically it was, "My way or the Highway".

And yes, I posted a very respectful reply when I left. For I had nothing but love for my fellow friend/monarch and guild mates. I understood that in certain aspects my membership was a trial up on them. I also felt that it was time for me to move on in the best interest of everyone concerned.

Yes, Pal has squelched me. I wish she had told me why before doing so. She'd have had to threaten the life of my wife or my kids for me to squelch her.

I have been blundering around trying to figure out what I did that pissed people off so much. No one has been able to come right out and said, YOU DID THIS!!

I have been through a State Police administered lie detector test. One of the questions was, Have you ever told a significant lie to a friend.

My answer, No.

I passed the test with flying colors.

I am hurt, and I am angry. And I 100% apologize for my post. It was a knee jerk reaction to a conversation with someone I had hoped to intervene and perhaps set things right.

I am what I am...flawed.

And I am stressed.

I have Chris 24/7. And as loving as he can be, he can be angry and spiteful.

Actually, it's less of the former and more of the latter.

But, I love him...with all my heart. I'd lay down in front of a bus for him.

I wish everyone here got to spend 10 minutes with him rl.

I wish you got to spend 10 minutes with all my kids, as they are tremendous!

Judge me by what you see, if you want...but, get to know me and judge me by who I am.

Craig

 

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What you did is this: see the above two posts. Prime examples.

You aren't getting everyone in the world to agree with you. So you attack, then retract. Going from angry, and disregarded, to poor innocent victim. From miracle working daddy, to stressed out father of difficult children. From Im great!! to pity me.

You may be a good friend to someone, but not to her. To her you are toxic, and she can't deal with your crap anymore. This is a personal issue and you are supposed to be an adult. Stop looking for an audience to clap when you feel you made your point. She doesn't want to play with you anymore. Take you ball and go home, or go find someone else to play with, but leave her alone. Stop posting, stop sending tells, stop harrassing everyone you think may be an avenue to get to her.

And just an FYI, and my opinion only....you aren't the only person with stress in their life. Everyone playing has something going on, and it really pisses me off to see you whine about how stressful it is that you have to deal with your kids problems. There are some that play this game that don't have that luxury. Death, deployment, and other issues make that an impossiblity.

 

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My apologies to everyone else for this, but I've had enough. Stick a fork in it, I'm done. Clav, you could have emailed me, but you chose to go to a place where you know I rarely log in or even go to anymore. Anyone who's played AC for more than a year knows where to find my email address. You wanted people gasping and clucking like the biddies in River City. I loathe drama. Hate it. Will go to the ends of the earth to avoid it, normally. And that rarely works. People asked me for months why I put up with some behavior, and I tried to tell them - booting and squelching won't end it. To those who heard me say that, I get to say this: I told you so.

I have you squelched because, as evinced by this post and as I told you in the last of a LONG series of PMs on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day,(considerate timing there) you don't shut up. Ever. You have possibly THE worst case of last-word-itis that I have ever seen and that is saying a lot. You are worse than my youngest and I thought that record would never fall. And you do it to EVERYONE who makes the mistake of listening for even a moment.

YOU DID THIS:

I got tired of temper tantrums. I got tired of endless arguments. Something will be months old and you'll worry it like a dog with a worn out bone. You harangued me for OVER AN HOUR (on multiple accounts and toons) telling me how I'd screwed up on the Prodigal Shadow quest after you died - WHILE I WAS STILL LEADING THE OTHER 17 people who hadn't died. You post on these and the Haven forums NO LESS THAN 3 TIMES in a temper tantrum, then end up apologizing and, often, asking for posts to be deleted or locked. Your mouth (or fingers as the case may be) run before your brain is working - and you leave casualties. Bottom line on a quest (and something I've said for years) - if you don't like the way I lead them - don't go. Lead your own. Or go on someone else's. I got tired of being told how to do what the teller WON'T or CAN'T do. And your behavior in /a that last day about me when I wasn't even on was the last straw.

I got tired of your massive ego and the piss-poor people skills. You have no concept of group dynamics. You don't play with the group for weeks and months, and you walk back in to the room, in a polyester suit and white belt and wonder where the disco went, knock people over with flailing arms, and complain when we don't dance to whatever beat you think you're hearing. You think only YOU exist. And that we all go into stasis when you don't play. You don't and apparently can NOT understand that I have 40 other people at any given time asking me questions, requesting that I do X one way or Y another, asking questions, or just chatting.

You have a life that is rough for you. Others may be able to handle your stressors with no problem. They have their own stressors that you may think are no big deal. You have NO empathy. (Look it up, it's not the same as sympathy.) And not everyone emotionally vomits all over everyone in hearing range. Some people share privately. Some people don't share at all. One of my (many) mottos: Be kinder than you need to - everyone is fighting some sort of battle. Some of the people you walk all over have lost their partners, their home, are worried for their children, their health, their job, or even just the crack in the windshield that they can't afford to fix. Their "little" problems are not little to them. It's not all about you.

You pick and choose what you want to hear. You throw Bug Juice at me constantly. But I dealt with him (and all the corpse droppers - exactly as I dealt with Christopher). And I *never* had an out of family complaint against him, except in PK. And my stance on PK is widely known. Every family has Uncle Jackass or Cousin Snot-nosed Brat and has to deal with them or ignore them. It's what I keep telling people. I deal with most people privately. When I'm left to deal with someone who doesn't listen and whose caregivers are not around to actually "give care," I'm left with a mess. And I didn't do more than mention it to you on those rare occasions when you did log on. It's your job to parent your children. My plate is full. Handle your own plate.

The people who are there with me, day in, day out, tell me that I'm too nice. They also know that I have my limits, and when I hit that line, I'm DONE. That line means I have done all I can do, all I want to do, and I am pretty sure that nothing I can say or do is going to change a damned thing. So, at that point, I have no problem letting it go. I stick a fork in it. You're not the only person who thinks I'm a bitch so get in line with the others. You'll probably have to stand behind Zero.

You're not an innocent bystander, unjustly wronged by the world. Life is hard. Get a damned helmet. This is a game where we all come to unwind. Me included. I am not less than anyone else. And I have done my time as a doormat in a mine field in real life. I'll be damned if I'll pay to do it again. I'm tired of watching out for your mines. I'm tired of being hit by shrapnel when someone else pisses you off. And I'm tired of people who use the word friend as a synonym for toilet. At the end of the day, we're all paying to dine in this restaurant, and we don't HAVE to sit quietly while someone throws dishes every time you don't get to sit at the table you want.

You don't want friends, you want an audience. The rest of us just want to watch the movie, so down in front.

This will be my last response to you. Be well and pleasant journeys.

For the rest of you, enjoy the popcorn.

 

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All I am going to say is Clav you know what you have done. You made your bed now lay in it. Pal is an amazing women and you just now need to shut up and get on with your life. You say one thing and do another. You lie so much you can't even remember your own lies, then you play the I don't know why people hate me card. Please oh please go spend time with your kids and take interest in their lives and what they are doing then freaking out over an issue that is long since dead for us.



and Airmails popcorn needs more butter

 

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I've also noticed they forgot to put salt on my popcorn.

Worst movie theatre ever!

 

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oh AC, you are still amazingly good for a laugh here and there grin

 

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someone actually let him have it....

 

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applause Pal.

I remember going through times like this as a monarch.


Blessed be.

 

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this is still going on almost 4 months since i quit.....jesus clav move on >.<

 

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Hello WE!

Wait... wrong thread.

Ooh popcorn!

 

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Xenpor_VN posted:
Hello WE!

Wait... wrong thread.

Ooh popcorn!


Get out.

 

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I can't, I just love hot dogs too much.

 

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Share the popcorn, Xen.


And hi!! hugs

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread!

 

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but hijacking is delicious

 

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Cyns posted:
Share the popcorn, Xen.


And hi!! hugs

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread!



You are good at that Cyns we miss you!

 

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Pal,

Sorry, but you are the ultimate drama queen.

My oldest son read all your pm's to my wife.

He also witnessed much of what you did on quests and to my kids.

He related all to my wife.

I defended you when he told me to leave the guild.

I was wrong, he was right.

My wife has an intense dislike for you, and that's not due to me, but due to what you yourself have done and said.

You have used my kids as pawns in a chess game. I despise you for that. Congrats, you are the first person in AC that I truly dislike. You involved my kids in your drama. I can not forgive that.

 

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Honestly guy, take the hint. No one has EVER been on your side in this entire debate. Not only do the active players, many of whom have experienced first hand the trouble and drama you bring with you, take her side, even an ex-player like me who (fortunately) didn't have to endure your drama can see just from these posts alone that you're stubbornly refusing to back down over your own inadequacies when it comes to handling volatile situations in a tactful way.

I don't know Pal in real life, but I know enough about her through my time in AC that I can honestly say I would trust her to always do the right thing. Not once has she ever caused me or anyone I know trouble. When it comes to her word against yours, I would take her word a thousand times over just to avoid a trip to the tool shed to get my wheelbarrow to cart your inevitable bullshit around.

Let it go. You've said your piece, everyone listened, no one agreed. Leave the game and go live your little self pitying existence. Stay in your deluded realm where the entire world is against you and your children and keep milking the drama for all it's worth to sustain your existence.

 

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Amg!! After reading this im going to break from Paloma right now...... Oh wait... No i wont! =D

<3 Pal and everyone in the clan! =D

 

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Dude can I borrow your wheelbarrow?

Mine broke when I had a wheelbarrow race with Bone King.

 

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I just told you I don't like trips to the tool shed. Why do you always purposely antagonise me? WHY?!

 

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lol Clav man why would Pal care what your wife thinks if you even have a wife. You step over your lies over and over again I am sure you don't even know what stories you have whipped up over the years. No one lies like you. I have personally been attacked by you in the past before this and even then you say your kids hated me and Airmail YET Mary and I talk all the time in game and she is a great kid. You should get your lies in order before you start attacking people again in the future. Now with this as Dio said even people who haven't played the game in years can see you are a huge bull shooter and laugh at your posts. Is your life that meaningless that you have to post stupid random crap about people. Well Clav i use to feel bad for you but I was fooled then to. You have shown your true colours and they are not pretty. Pal and the rest of us play this game for a good time not a drama fest. We have enough drama in real life and don't need it in game either. Pal has never used your kids like pawns and until about 9 months ago was really good to your kids and still is a very good to Mary. She only has stopped putting up with Chris crap because it got way to much and the way he spoke to her that one day was unbelievable. No one has the right to talk to anyone the way your son talked to talk that day. Please Clav get a life and leave us out of it. I wish you only the best and hope you find peace.


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Splash,

Yes, I am married. 28 years and counting.

And I am smart enough to listen to the boss. tongue

I stand firmly by what I've stated. Don't really give a rat's ass what anyone here says. I answer to my family, and I can do so with a clear conscience.

Hate on me all you like. I'll get over it, trust me. If you meant something to me it would matter, but you don't and it doesn't.

I look back on my life and know that I've done good, that I've made a major impact in many kid's lives.

52 foster kids, 6 adopted.

How many others can say that?

I have a daughter that we were told first was autistic, then later that would never get past a 3 yr old level. She's gotten to go to Amsterdam as a swimmer with the Friendship Games and has been Honors/High Honors all through HS.

Yeah, I'm damn proud of her.

And proud of Chris, who won 3rd in his age group on this swim team. He's 9 and many times swam in the 12 and under age group. It was ridiculous to log in to complaints from Pal about his bodies when I have run across as many, if not more, of her bodies in dungeons.

Compare deaths?

And the fact that so many are getting bent out of shape about a kid leaving bodies, or about what he says, is rather sad. Get over yourselves.

Ya'll are hating on a 9 yr old. Really??

You know what? The kid can play. He's the one that came up with the tactic of hiding behind the pedestals to kill Rytheran. He turned me and my oldest son on to that tactic.

I am who I am, and I'm good with that.

And I love my kids more than my next breath.

Say what you will about me. I don't care.

I am glad that we have found a good home. We have a family that is accepting and understanding...and who doesn't rag on me every time I log in to tell me where Chris left a body.

Xiahou dun Rocks!

Splash, if you'd ever like to call and talk to my "imaginary" wife please pm me and I'll give you the number.

Just be prepared for what you will hear. tongue

What is ironic is that I have 3 kids older than you and you have the temerity to try to tell me how to raise a family.

You have not a clue.



 

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It's a game.

GAME!

LOL

I would wager all my MMD's that none of you can outswim Chris.

But hey, pat yourselves on the back for your ability to play an online game.

 

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Why are you still here then, stubborn as ever? If all you care about is what your family thinks and you don't give a rats ass about us since we're unimportant, then just get the fuck out.

 

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I remember the days when posts like this were locked and the person who made it was warned/banned within hours of posting it for flaming/trolling... Where have all the mods gone, long time passing.....


 

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Forget MMDs, I'll bet you 5,000 USD I can outswim your 9 year old son.

3rd place in his age group? So he's the 3rd fastest 9 year old? I swam competitively for 8 years. Let's do this.

 

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lol Xen!

 

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You guys ever step into dog shit? And the smell just wount go away no matter how hard you wipe your shoe on the grass. And you really want to get rid of the shit and the stench but it just follows you around no matter what. And then the stuff dries and you think its gone, but then you step into a puddle and it gets wet and starts stinking again. This idiot, The_Clav, is like that.

 

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lol Relentless I hate when that happens. sick

 

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lol too funny!

 

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I'm good.

But, thanks for your concern.

 

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Oh, and Xen...

For warned is for armed. tongue

Though, I'd gladly put Mary against you in breast stroke. tongue

And don't even think about taking that south...

Mary, at 13, actually came in 2nd in the 18 and under breast 100m.

And yes, you can probably beat Chris...but you are 1 out of how many? tongue

And, um...what is this about you wanting to beat my kids ?!?!?

 

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I don't want to beat your kids, I was just hoping for 5,000 dollars. dancing

 

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Bone_King_we posted:
o.0


A BK! *squee!* *Tackle-Hugs* *Glomps*

Dio_of_WE posted:
Honestly guy, take the hint. No one has EVER been on your side in this entire debate. Not only do the active players, many of..


Wrong, fabio!

Xenpor_VN posted:
Dude can I borrow your wheelbarrow?

Mine broke when I had a wheelbarrow race with Bone King.


I would have beaten you both if Crystal wouldn't have jumped in my Wheelbarrow. *clenches fists*

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Splash,

Yes, I am married. 28 years and counting.

We have a family that is accepting and understanding...and who doesn't rag on me every time I log in to tell me where Chris left a body.

Xiahou dun Rocks!




Here, here!

Xiahou-Dun for President.

Atleast dun won't take 40 vacations for golf in his first three years.

 

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Okay guys and gals, it's time to get serious.

I am neutral in this debate, but all of you posting your rebuttal against Clav is redundant and shows a lack of maturity bumping a thread that shouldn't have more then three posts, all of which made by the respective sides. This is un-needed drama and it shouldn't be happening, you guys are worse then Republicans and Democrats.
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Paloma, I'm not being a critic or trying to flame you or anything, but this thread was made because you can't keep your guild members in check. I'm not saying it's your fault, trust me. Having a large guild must be hard to control, and keep in check, but what you don't realize is that trying to keep your guild together is but a fraction of what Clav has to go through on but a DAILY basis. And if you don't want to take care of something, you don't have to log into the game. Clav can't log out of life or log out of his family. He has responsibilities to them, much like a guild leader has a responsibility to sever dramatic situations such like this so that it doesn't happen. This is completely un-neccessary and I am by no means saying it's all your fault. This is just from what I've seen and heard.

I'm not going to write a big fancy essay on what I think and don't and about what happened. I have been on several runs with you, and you are a damned good leader, better then most. But most of your long speech is flawed and could have been said with much, much fewer words (Some words of the said are somewhat hypocritical).

And, on top of that, you have said that you are finished, like you did in your last post, but obviously you weren't and still are not and might never be.
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Clav, I do respect what you go through, and you are a damned good player. But I would like to point out that a public forum isn't the place to create such a topic. I do like to keep my conversations a bit neutral paced so I do have to admit your flaws aswell, you are not void from them by having a rough life, none of us are. Guild-mate and friend or not, you still have a responsibility to uphold the values set by the guild and by unspoken law. You may not be able to stop your child from doing something, but as long as he is your child, the players have their right to speech against you and yours. Given to them as a human right by god and (if american) from the constitution itself. You could have easily ignored the situation and thereby ceasing this dramatic topic.
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The rest of you, (BK TOO! :P) I hop you have realized that you have been bumping this thread and causing continual drama through-out the community, we all know your stance on the issue, and you don't have to publically voice your opinion to earn brownie points. Once again it's childish, this discussion ends HERE and NOW. This argument has been blown out of proportion by both sides admittedly, and is not a good representation of the community.
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Now that that's over with, Hey everyone! Sorry I haven't been in game lately, I work late shifts now. sleep

Please take my words with a grain of salt, I mean no offense to anyone, and would like to continue questing and talking with you all. Everyone of you make Wintersebb what it is, you are all unique and wouldn't change a thing about any of you if I had the ability. I also realize that my post was irrelevent and hypocritical as I could be caught on 'not letting it die' but someone has to say it. I am immensely flawed, I am human.

We all have our differences and we should try our best to co-exist on this release from life we call Dereth.

What say you?











(TL;DR :: Too long, didn't read version)



Hug, make up, kiss. Hold hands and sing kumbiya around a campfire.

Shit happens, forgive and live on.

Love you all, Teh Goldzor.

See you all in game soon! happy

 

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Wait... there's drama?

I thought this was a wheelbarrow race thread.

I'm in the wrong damn thread again!

 

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ISO: More wheelbarrows!

 

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FS: More wheelbarrows! Only 3 souls.. devil

 

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That's a steep price, I just went to Home Depot and got some for $20 a pop on sale, let the wheelbarrowing begin!

 

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omg people this post should be dead by now lol

 

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If we had an actual WE mod, this would have been gone before it got to 2 pages, I actually tried twice to become a mod of these boards back about 4-5 years ago, I didn't even get a response saying thank you for applying etc, it just showed that they don't really appreciate the people using these boards and I was glad I wasn't one, as mods seem to quit fairly regularly (probably from mean managers). wink

 

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I've decided to become the unofficial moderator. Anyone violating any rules that I make up on the fly shall be punished as I see fit.

 

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I've decided to become the unofficial moderator. Anyone violating any rules that I make up on the fly shall be punished as I see fit.


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Aren't you punishing us enough with that icon....

 

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I've decided to become the unofficial moderator. Anyone violating any rules that I make up on the fly shall be punished as I see fit.


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Ya, Xen you have to at least have 10K posts to even be considered a mod, I'm pretty sure that's how it works. I may get asked in 10 more posts, who knows? wink

 

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Can I be spanked??

 

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Miatte posted:
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I've decided to become the unofficial moderator. Anyone violating any rules that I make up on the fly shall be punished as I see fit.


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Ya, Xen you have to at least have 10K posts to even be considered a mod, I'm pretty sure that's how it works. I may get asked in 10 more posts, who knows? wink


That's not how it works. I had less than 10k posts when I became a mod. They just said they think you're funny...and you talk in your sleep. tongue

 

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Oh so they are biased.... wheres my lawyer! wink

 

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lawyer my arse!

 

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Aren't you punishing us enough with that icon....


laugh

Smite us ModXen, I dares you.

 

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With my new unofficial powers I grant the following:

To Mi: You shall take 25 cans of silly string to the face.

To Cyns: You shall deliver the 25 cans of silly string to Mi's face.

To Salo: You shall be forced to dance with my icon for eternity.

To Splash: You shall be spanked! dancing

To Airmail: You shall become my unofficial enforcer, with all the powers and privileges of that rank whatever they may be.

 

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woot!

 

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With my new unofficial powers I grant the following:

To Mi: You shall take 25 cans of silly string to the face.

To Cyns: You shall deliver the 25 cans of silly string to Mi's face.


Just to clarify, do you mean she is going to spray 25 cans of silly string into my face, or throw 25 cans of silly string at my face?

 

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Miatte posted:
Xenpor_VN posted:
With my new unofficial powers I grant the following:

To Mi: You shall take 25 cans of silly string to the face.

To Cyns: You shall deliver the 25 cans of silly string to Mi's face.


Just to clarify, do you mean she is going to spray 25 cans of silly string into my face, or throw 25 cans of silly string at my face?


Or am I going to spray 25 cans at Mi's face, only to have her duck at the last moment, and have the silly string hit Xen in the face? Since we have it all planned out beforehand.

 

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Yes, this information is really important, please clarify ModXen.

 

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Ordinarily I would say spray the silly string, but this whole idea of throwing the cans sounds interesting.

I will think on this matter.

 

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Don't think too hard, I don't want you to hurt yourself.

 

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Yes, Xen, we know how difficult it can be to think sometimes.

 

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Especially for you, Xen.

 

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In light of recent developments, I have decided that the cans of silly string will first be sprayed, then thrown at Mi.

Carry on.

 

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I'm really impressed that it only took you 6 days to decide.

 

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hugs

 

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As you should be.

Er, wait...

 

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Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded.

 

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And Xen, even if you can out-swim a 9 year old, is that really something to be proud of?

 

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LOL

It's the thread that never ends....it goes on and on my friends...

How long ago was my last post?

If I can give it up, ya'll should strive to be at least as good as me. tongue

 

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Ekime_WE posted:
And Xen, even if you can out-swim a 9 year old, is that really something to be proud of?


sad

He presented the challenge, I just wanted free money.

But no, I wouldn't add it to my list of accomplishments.

Though the list could use a boost... thinking

 

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Never argue with idiots.

They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

 

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