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Tassadar5432 
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I played AC back in the day (till the end of 2004) then switched to World of Warcraft for several years. I have not played much of any game since 2007 due to work; however, I recently quit work as I will be starting a graduate school program this fall and well I find myself having spare time for the first time in a few years.

Back in the day, my main character was Logan Silvermoon. I played primarily on this server (same char on DT and VT as well). I spent some time figuring out my account info and finally managed to log in after several hours of effort happy

I logged into WE earlier today and I realized that I barely remember how to play this game. I am certain several things have changed, and I will probably log in every now and then to check things out.


Anyways to get to the point, I left AC along with the majority of the core group I played with. I am writing this post to say "hi" and to see if any of the old-timers are still around.

Oh, and I noticed that the level cap was moved to 275. Is there any tangible benefit of leveling that high? Training a few new skills and maxing them out seems pointless, though the jump from level 126 to 239 was insteresting. Anyways, I plan to play the game very casually (and possibly not for long) so the level cap probably does not matter.




 

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Hi, once you get all your skills maxed, the only benefit from 275 is an extra skill credit. (You get one at 250, too)

WB, and luckily, AC is much less addicting than WoW so you should be ok happy

 

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Definitely no danger of me getting addicted. I am mainly curious about any changes/who still plays. The max I will be playing is a few hours a week for one month, till grad school starts.

 

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Hey Logan, I remember you back in the day. The 275 cap basically is just for the extra skill creds as was already stated, by about 240-250 you usually have all your skills maxed and any extra xp you have goes to augmentations. Airmail has every aug he can use and everything maxed at lvl 275, and I still have 21 bil unspent.

 

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Airmail is old does that count! lol =P

 

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I don't think airmail appreciates being called old happy

Is there anything specific that is worth doing for a super casual player who will probably get tired of playing for more than a 30 minute stretch? Don't get me wrong, I loved AC back in the day, but I only activated my account now because I am bored and was curious about the state of the game.

 

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what guild were you in?

 

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Tassadar5432 posted:
I don't think airmail appreciates being called old happy

Is there anything specific that is worth doing for a super casual player who will probably get tired of playing for more than a 30 minute stretch? Don't get me wrong, I loved AC back in the day, but I only activated my account now because I am bored and was curious about the state of the game.





Yeah I am Airmail wife so i can call him old lol

They is so much worth doing. Society stuff easy quests etc,

 

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bruce_the_darkknight posted:
what guild were you in?


Naja Empire -> Indestructable (few other guild names, but basically the same guild) -> One of the three founders of Exempt (Dire, Dk, myself). I think I am under "Lifestone Express" at the moment. I never recalled changing tags, but I must have around the time VT came out as that was the name of our VT guild.


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Yeah I am Airmail wife so i can call him old lol



I guess you can get away with it then happy

 

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Hey silver i remember you. Im B i O h A z A r D lol i was in Darkcrystals clan for a few years then everyone started to quit. i sure do miss them days and all you people.

 

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The old days were fun. Especially the pvp. Looking back, I wish I had pvp'd more and done other things less happy AC had (has?) one of the most exploitable pvp systems; however, it was definitely one of the most fun pvp systems. The pvp in other games I have played (old school games like daoc, uo, and eq or newer ones like wow) don't really compare imo.

 

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I logged in game and noticed that I am actually poor. I could have sworn I had packs of MMD notes, salvage, items and god knows what else. I guess they were all in my house or on one of the multiple accounts I have yet to figure out the username/passwords for! Luckily for me, the information on my main account (Logan Silvermoon) was the one I was actually able to figure out. Unfortunately for me, I kept most of my stuff on the other accounts! Oh well, I have enough for my purposes of blowing a few mobs anyways.

 

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Hello, one of my memories of you was chasing me at Bandit Castle during some pk battle. Yep you kilt me. Welcome back. happy

 

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This might sound sad, but I don't remember bandit castle. The name is familiar, but I cannot place it. With that said, I do recall running into you in a few pvp fights happy


I would not say "welcome back" just yet though. I have spent a whole 1 hour online over the last two days, and the nostalgia factor has basically run out!

 

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define old timer.

 

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Old timer = Elwood.

Good enough definition for you?

Or should I say, Old Timer is anyone who played around 1999-2004 (ie. before a lot of us left for WoW).

 

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Hello Logan, I remember you, but I was a noob at the time wink

 

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Miatte posted:
Hello Logan, I remember you, but I was a noob at the time wink



Mi a noob never!

 

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I do remember you Miatte. I think your char was like level 105 or something close to that? If it makes you feel any better, I am a complete AC noob at the moment. There was a time when I new the coordinates of most places, right now I could not find my way to most places if my life depended on it happy

 

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HI Tass,
I remember you happy . Mostly the days when Exempt and War contolled the 2 highest xp dungeons in the game on tusker island. I was a Highlander back then under Ionia the Younger altho I started in Eternal Circle.

I'm surprised Mary hasn't popped on and said Hi happy

Hope you enjoy the game again for a while. Many changes and although it's not necessary to cap out at 275, you want to be at least 200 to take advantage of a lot of the new content like societies (min 180) and such.

 

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I doubt I will get too much into the societies/etc. Mainly playing the game for the "old times sake" factor since I have a few weeks off from work/etc before grad school begins. I had a few maxed out characters from back in the day so they should all be in the 235-240ish range right now (granted I was only able to recover the Logan Silvermoon account). I switched all my accounts from Zone to the new system right before WoW came out because Dire contacted me and told me the zone log-ins would be wiped out. Probably a mistake on my part because I still remember the old log-ins, but I don't recall the new ones.

Most of my limited log on time has been spent trying to PK or just navigate my way to various places.

 

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Has the population risen at all, are there more people online running around back from a year ago?

 

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Mr. Friend, I have no idea how things are compared to 1 years ago; however, compared to 5.5 years ago, the game is fairly dead. I have only clocked in 2-3 hours on AC over the last several days, but I have run into very few people.

 

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I started playing AC again for about a month and just couldnt seem to enjoy it to the full aspect like before. I'm still playing WoW but that is even starting to get boring, wait around every week to raid with nothing else to do whooooo... I miss AC pvp so much sad


Cool to see you around again Logan.

 

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Hi Logan, I remember you! Welcome back to AC. I'm kind of like you, I got out of the habit of playing AC when WoW came out, and I've only played sporadically since. I do try to hop in game and do a quest every now and then. I spend some time in game running around, revisiting old stomping grounds.

Maybe I'll see you in game this month; are you still primarily playing as Logan?

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I remember that name. AC isn't bad nowadays. They have put in a lot of nice things in the game. I came back after several years and I was satisfied with the content change. I have since stopped playing but mainly due to RL taking up the spare time. I agree with you on the PVP opinion. UO was the next best PVP imo.

Hey Elwood.. good to see you still lurking...even if you are still a noob. 8(


 

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Each of my "playable" characters are on a seperate account, and I have only activated one account. The only character I play on is Logan Silvermoon.

 

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heh.

Barely remember how to play?

Perhaps because you didn't, you just hit start. tongue

gbtWoW.

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i remember you. i played as "Poison Frog" and ran around with eternal circle with Drache, then Babo, and shortly after i was with Less Than Three. i think i traded Poison Frog at like level 128 or something. back in '05

 

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heh.

Barely remember how to play?

Perhaps because you didn't, you just hit start. tongue

gbtWoW.

tongue



lol Clav. My first several years of AC included no macroing happy I only started macroing after I was a true AC veteran, and I clocked more time playing chars and supplying macros than most people realize. When you run 4+ chars nearly 24/7 for a couple years you have to spend a lot of time getting them supplied etc. Though in retrospect, the main reason I "macroed" was the social aspect of the game (especially after I hit maxed out chars). My friends macroed, and I spent time in IRC/etc talking to them.

With that said, you need not fear my former heathen ways tongue I don't have the time or the inclination to macro. In fact I have not even installed decal yet. Granted the decal part is largely because I have spent the few hours of ingame time I have logged roaming around AC and not doing anything specific. And yes I did get the wink, but you know me, I have always been a sucker for macro talk!

I do remember you Poison Frog. I stopped playing at the end of 2004 (around when WoW came out), so I definitely knew you (original one).

 

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We are all still here. even Vo shows up once in a while. happy

 

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Nice to see some old faces I recall.

I played from beta up until 2005. Started on HG with the Chosen guild from day one launch, then moved to WE when guild got too political, then moved to WoW after Ms Onyx and Mr Blue's guild fell apart. Tinkering with the idea of coming back to look around, but not much luck in finding old account information.

Not big on PK or macroing, so my mains were only about 70 or so, Abbott, Ni'Koji and BelKoji were more known for holding clan community events and helping lower levels. I ran a bunch of contests like "Find Me" on the WE board before I left to give away all my pack dolls, gear, pyreals(?), cottage, etc.

Even the old computer I played on is long gone. Any tips on recovering info? I'd hate to start over at 1, especially with most folks probably in the 200+ range...

** LOL, lost my 10,000 posts since I dropped my IGN premium too! tongue

 

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Squa-Tront posted:
Nice to see some old faces I recall.

I played from beta up until 2005. Started on HG with the Chosen guild from day one launch, then moved to WE when guild got too political, then moved to WoW after Ms Onyx and Mr Blue's guild fell apart. Tinkering with the idea of coming back to look around, but not much luck in finding old account information.

Not big on PK or macroing, so my mains were only about 70 or so, Abbott, Ni'Koji and BelKoji were more known for holding clan community events and helping lower levels. I ran a bunch of contests like "Find Me" on the WE board before I left to give away all my pack dolls, gear, pyreals(?), cottage, etc.

Even the old computer I played on is long gone. Any tips on recovering info? I'd hate to start over at 1, especially with most folks probably in the 200+ range...

** LOL, lost my 10,000 posts since I dropped my IGN premium too! tongue



You have to "move" your IGN account to get it back. I am not too clear on the process, but honestly, it took more effort to get back my IGN account than to figure out my AC accounts password. The AC website has a "forgot" password option. You input the email address and it sends you password reset information. Unfortunately, it won't tell you if the email address is not on your database. I typed in a bunch of email addresses and recovered my main account. Good luck with it.


AC is very much the same if you ignore some of the new quests/etc. The game has the same feel, but there seems to be a lot of new content. I am not the best person to ask as I have done none of the new content. JUst burning some time killing stuff at places I have been before. I am only back for a month so I am not bothering to do the new stuff.

 

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Thanks. I'll try that.

Remembering the fun times at the BSD with my little mage, feast or famine. With others around scrambling to get kills but when empty got overwhelmed and died a lot. Was it level 50 restricted or level 30?

And the fun times, the very first week of AC1 launch (was it '95?) when the guild officers leveled up quickly and made a long and dangerous run to the horrifying Matekar Cave to get hides from the Great Matekars for that "uber" coat even mages could wear! LOL. Lonnnnnnnng time back.

And burning up precious tapers trying every conceivable combination to learn spells. Seemed a shame when the code was broken and widely distributed.

Are the exp chains still used? That was great for leveling up a fighter and at the same time leveling up a different person for trade skills. Of course the widespread use of macros runined most of it.

 

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I remember that name. AC isn't bad nowadays. They have put in a lot of nice things in the game. I came back after several years and I was satisfied with the content change. I have since stopped playing but mainly due to RL taking up the spare time. I agree with you on the PVP opinion. UO was the next best PVP imo.

Hey Elwood.. good to see you still lurking...even if you are still a noob. 8(




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Thanks. I'll try that.

Remembering the fun times at the BSD with my little mage, feast or famine. With others around scrambling to get kills but when empty got overwhelmed and died a lot. Was it level 50 restricted or level 30?

And the fun times, the very first week of AC1 launch (was it '95?) when the guild officers leveled up quickly and made a long and dangerous run to the horrifying Matekar Cave to get hides from the Great Matekars for that "uber" coat even mages could wear! LOL. Lonnnnnnnng time back.

And burning up precious tapers trying every conceivable combination to learn spells. Seemed a shame when the code was broken and widely distributed.

Are the exp chains still used? That was great for leveling up a fighter and at the same time leveling up a different person for trade skills. Of course the widespread use of macros runined most of it.



I thought BSD was like level 20 or something req. People went there early with level 7 buffs back in the day (granted I am talking a few years after the game first came out). Not really sure exactly when the game came out, but it was in the 95-96 period I think.


The taper thing changed well before I left (only one kind of taper) and spells are not learnt via trial and error (or split pea). These changes occured in the early 2000s (not sure exactly when).

Exp chains were changed around 2003 or so (a year or so before I quit). You get more xp from vassals, but the xp received from people under your vassals was nerfed.

All this info could be 5 years or more outdated.

 

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Paid Turbine to find my account (one of them anyway). Resubbed. Got lost. Died after not knowing how to fight. Logged.

 

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Squa-Tront posted:
Nice to see some old faces I recall.

I played from beta ... then moved to WoW after Ms Onyx and Mr Blue's guild fell apart.....


Bueller ? ummm hellooooo ? n/m I guess sad


Hola Logan, I still log Sionnach now and then although he spent his first few weeks standing in the corner of the MP wink

 

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Lammie hugs

 

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Hugs Lammie!!!!

 

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LOGNA!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha whats up bro havent seen u in yrs. Had some great times on mirc and in the hc chains whats good bro

 

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Howdy (7)

 

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Ms Onyx, theres a name I haven't seen in a while, I remember something bad happened, although I can't remember what, can someone refresh my memory?

Good to see a lot of the older names on here too.

 

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Can't say I remember you. :P

Don't quit though, I'd suggest joining an active guild (Dun, Cyns, and Haven are all good) and chatting/questing with them. Makes the game a bit brighter having people to talk to. If anything, try Frostfell if you are looking for people en masse to talk with/be around.

I still carry an active sub myself but barely play since working night shift. *dun dun dunnn*

 

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Hey Logan, how have you been? Its been a long time. I stopped playing WoW and started playing AC some more now days.
I log on WE every once in a while. Seems pretty dead at times. I lvled up a few chars on FF. Seems to be the most played server.
Our DT chars arent high enough to have fun on over there. They are to out dated!

Any how, hit me up on FF if you need anything.

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I remember Lifestone Express and Kruzz

 

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I just remember dying lol tongue

 

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Ya you do that well hun. raised_brow

I still love you. hugs

 

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I don't play, but I still creep around once in a while, also currently in grad school

 

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Heya this is headrush I quit AC when wow came out. I still tinker with it but I started playing Aion 4 months ago and I love it. Good to see you guys are still around. peace out.

 

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-Food- posted:
I don't play, but I still creep around once in a while, also currently in grad school


Hey there Food!

(This random drive-by was brought to you by the letter A)

 

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good lord so many older players popping up--LoL I remember you use to beat the living daylight out of me at ab ls-also remember dire and kruz---headrush longtime no see-- how's life on your edge of your world...jensen played wow on my server for a bit but haven't heard anything from him in a couple years. Good seeing so many familiar names hope y'all are doing great.

 

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Creep around with me, Food!

 

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Miatte posted:
Hello Logan, I remember you, but I was a noob at the time wink


you still are...but we still love you!

 

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AC is still the best.

No other game allows you the freedom to explore overland.

No other game gives you the freedom to modify your casts.

No other game offers you melee techniques like AC does.

You can't slide heal in Wow, H2, LoTRO, ect.... Nor slide cast. Nor fast cast.

I'm AC for life.

 

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Angel_Rheyper posted:
Miatte posted:
Hello Logan, I remember you, but I was a noob at the time wink


you still are...but we still love you!


Haha tongue hugs just an inactive noob these days!

Nice to see so many familiar faces happy

 

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Hi Logan, remember me? I remember you and that long ass macro thread. Ah, the good old days. I don't think any game could ever come close to what AC had to offer in it's prime. Still miss my first MMORPG, AC1. Playing WoW now, very casually. We are on a PvP/Rp server.

Nice to see some of the oldies here. I was there back in the day when you had to find the secret taper for your spells.

 

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I fixed that taper problem! wink

 

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Micayla...

*coughs and clears throat....then sings*

Baby, come back...

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Seriously, AC is still the best around. No other game offers the ability to explore or the freedom of movement.

I honestly can't keep up with all that AC has to offer.


 

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Hehe, thanks Clav. I have given up on gaming for awhile as we just bought a house and our family groweth. I am working full time on my degree and my current employment. Just too much going on for 'the kid' to return. I miss my cottage, though. It's the one outside of Qala'bar on the coast. I wonder who has it now?

 

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My old account went into the ether. Both here and AC. The longevity of this game still surprises me.

 

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My old account went into the ether. Both here and AC. The longevity of this game still surprises me.


Actually i found it

 

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Wow, I actually recognize some names after about 5 - 6 years, kind of scary.

 

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I just started playing again. I recognize a couple of the names from the old days. Elwood for one. I dabbled in PvP for most of my time here. My character never got all that high but then when I was playing, not many people ever even broke 100. Level 126 was the cap but for most it was just some unattainable myth. Oh ya, my character's name was Vain.

 

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I always love popping in here and reading posts from the old timers! Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving day.


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lol logan and DF! what up, i still play from time to time but only on DT and FF to PK i dont actually play the game. but its kinda getting boring b/c everybody knows TJM's break cast and its just a matter of who mess's up the cast first.

and up zoumiz!!

 

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Brona_we posted:
I just started playing again. I recognize a couple of the names from the old days. Elwood for one. I dabbled in PvP for most of my time here. My character never got all that high but then when I was playing, not many people ever even broke 100. Level 126 was the cap but for most it was just some unattainable myth. Oh ya, my character's name was Vain.

hey vain hows it going i remember you you were in nzoms guild for a bit before you quit. before that you had a little alliance under your name =)

 

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Ya, Nzom , his bro Hideous, and a few others all came over from Solclaim to reroll on WE when it opened. Those were such fun times. Man, pk'ing back in those days was a blast. There was so much action everywhere. Used to fight for hours and hours every day. Especially at either the subway or the temple. I remember when Hollow wepaons came out. Scared the hell out of us robe wearers. Til we learned to perch hehe

Now I kill tusker guards :P
Oh well, it's still addicting as hell. Levelling is so much easier now! Just complete a few tasks and they give you 20 mill XP which is like 1/3 of my total. Amazing. I guess they really added a lot of high end content and that's where they want people playing. I'll get there but i'm soloing AC these days, so it's going to make it a bit tougher. Easier on my RL time though heh


Take care Elwood!

oh btw, in game im now the "Captain"s - meaning my names all start with Captain something or other. Dunno, just a way to come up with some stupid names i guess happy

 

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A lot of old names on here from back in the day happy

 

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I recognize the names but Loki is the only one who might
remember me since we were in the same guild.

Played as Suzuki and a few others.

 

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I stopped by these forums for my yearly pass by. Cool to see Elwood, Vain, and others. Hello. I hope you are all doing well. I haven't played AC in years. I think I might still pay for one of my accounts. Who knows!

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Do any of my plugins still work? Anyone use them?

 

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whats up Nick happy

Ita been awhile. I'm waiting to get my old character back from turbine, hopefully some time this week.
Funny, the urge to play AC just never really went away.

How's your bro doing? Would be nice if you two got back in the game happy

The 3 of us could PK, we'd get slaughtered by all the level 275's hehe

Edit: Havent tried Dark Sense (I think that was it, that's the only one I had of yours)

But i doubt they work anymore. Why dont you fix em up for us, then we could use them to lay the beats on the 275's before they knew what hit em hehe

 

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Brona_we posted:
whats up Nick happy

Ita been awhile. I'm waiting to get my old character back from turbine, hopefully some time this week.
Funny, the urge to play AC just never really went away.

How's your bro doing? Would be nice if you two got back in the game happy

The 3 of us could PK, we'd get slaughtered by all the level 275's hehe

Edit: Havent tried Dark Sense (I think that was it, that's the only one I had of yours)

But i doubt they work anymore. Why dont you fix em up for us, then we could use them to lay the beats on the 275's before they knew what hit em hehe


Haha, nice to hear from you Vain. My brother is doing great. Not much time for games these days for both of us. I just checked my account and it went inactive since 2007 because my credit card expired. Haha! AC was really the best game and worst game I ever played. Best as in the most fun and well built (at times, depending on patch), and the worst because it just took up too much time. Time away from wonderful real life. happy These days I have two daughters. Between work, wife and kids, there really isn't much room for games. Especially games like AC. I think my wife still gets the chills when she hears us talk about the old days of AC. wink

Level 275? Wow, that's quite a jump in levels that Turbine added. For me, and my brother and Tweak, AC lost it's luster when they removed godmode and jump healing. AC is so unique. So ahead of it's time. All questing, lore, etc of a fantasy game... but all the adrenaline, speed, skills of a first person shooter. When they nerfed it, it started the downhill spiral.

Great memories though. Remember when we first started and being in the towns was one of the only "safe" areas. Going off the beaten path really was dangerous. Exploring the wilderness was dangerous and fun! When Wintersebb opened, rushing to be the first to Ayan boquer to port tie there. All the wonderful quests we used todo. The great times talking on RogerWilco. I will never forget watching you PK several people at once (back when that was very uncommon).

Solo'ing the Aerilinth Quest when people said that was impossible. Killing people in Ayan with my little "OwnzYou" character that was like level 3. Having Maxed out UA skill on a full Magic Defense Mage, and surprise the hell out of people when I swung once and they died! Remember the good ole days of when a robe fully baned was all you needed? Before hollow weapons.

I will never forget when Macros were so simple and your character had to be in a safe distance from anything that could kill you. I took the challenge on making the (what I believe was) the first macro that could kill and defend itself. For the few that got to use it you know how it would fully defend itself. It even talked to the other people running my plugin and macroing in the same area on a private IRC network. To optimize safety of dieing and to optimize which monsters to kill. In the later times, I worked with a math professor to develop a AI algorithm that would track all spawn points (even ones that seemed random), and over time would predict exactly the spawn and move to the spawn location. Lastly, the super macro monarchies. We would level up characters to 125 (the max at the time) in one second. Ahhh.. Those days. Damn, those were fun days.

P.S. For my plugins. If decal is still around, I bet they would still work if recompiled. The PK one was called Darkthirst. Is there even such a type of plugin these days?

P.S.S. I still talk with Diabolic. We are on Facebook. He had two children recently. Boy and Girl.

 

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I thought about re-subbing after I heard about all the new races and whatnot but the game seemed like a ghost town last time I upped. I do remember getting owned in the face by Elwood, Jake and that gang though long, long ago.

 

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I remember a few of you. <---- Blood God . Quit at the same time for WoW, then quit WoW about 8 months ago and went back to darktide, rockin 4 275's there now.

 

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Hi blood God i remember you



lol alien_1

 

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I'm curious is the game still rife with botting and macro's?

I played on Solclaim* as connetic sorcerer and wintersebb* as Gia

 

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u sure that wasnt dire the wise draining me while we were fighting? anywho, im sure i owned u a fair share of times, not sure who your mage was but elwood def blew at pk.

 

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I tried to come back, but it was jut not fun any longer.

 

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Akkah posted:
I tried to come back, but it was jut not fun any longer.


hey akkah what are you up too these days?

 

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Hey - some great names from back then. This is Hotspur (was #1 bot in MP and probably in top X UA)

Great to see LAM still foxing around - not sure who else would remember me. I enjoyed this game so much until chains broke/good friends left/needs of a beautiful new daughter (now 6 yrs old) took precedence.

LAM - how's the kids?

Great memories of this game/friends, etc and miss it more than a little to be frank.

 

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i was around back in the old days.


Was under Karack, Lifestone Express.Babo.


I was H O L Y M A G E, Night Elf, Topgunn. Holymage.

Used to PK all the time with you Elwood happy and jake.




Ahh i remeber the good old AC days of hunting on Aerth Island on Coral Golems lol. Or the lugian Cit with a wall of melees protecting the mages.

 

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hey NZOM, can you tell forrest i said hey. he still making beer? i played tweek and ganj after he left. i remember when i first started playing with forrest, his endless corpse recoveries in OP cause of his dial up. LOL man, those were some fun days. where the F$^$ is he going.... hes running into a group of hollow and virindi... of f#@%... RUN!!! i also played disciples of darkness, vagrant nation, and god knows how many more. used to have 10 accounts going way back. anyways, let em know i said hey

 

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if he wants to get in touch with me, he can use my VN name @gmail

 

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Logna sux!


Amazingly enough 12 years later I am still putting up with Elwood.

Anyone bored come play Ikariam with us. Great game that you can play from your phone or really get into.

 

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idk what that game is

PS... i dont understand why i need 20 posts for private messages when i have 2k!!!

 

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Hmm pretty sure I would be considered an old skooler too:)

 

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i wouldnt consider myself an old schooler. i came to this server in 2004... stired up a ton of trouble... and then left

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HAI SITH

 

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I was here.

 

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your not an old schooler unless you had mules out side qualabar before housing was put in.

 

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Your mother is an oldschooler..

 

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Your mother is an oldschooler..


that does it.
me and you buddy cripple fight 3 start practicing.

 

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EbonDragon posted:
Your mother is an oldschooler..


that does it.
me and you buddy cripple fight 3 start practicing.


I've been ready! My whole life has been leading up to this moment.

Let me get my vaseline.

 

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Just playing a bit of WoW at the moment. Games just don't hold my attention like they used to; RL just keeps breaking in, in a good way.

 

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_Elwood_ posted:
your not an old schooler unless you had mules out side qualabar before housing was put in.



lol portal storms ftw :P

 

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I think I could be considered "old school" to ...this is Dark Enchantress.

Hi all happy

 

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Hi everyone!

Old timer here and it's been years since I played

Rencor, Alpha, Angolus were my main characters.

 

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hugs hey Haz how are you?

 

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Hey Logan, I remember you... Seeker of Kiwi here (teh uber n00b!)... I've been away from AC for a while too (been about 2 years). Thinking of dropping in again just to see how things are.

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<A wandering troll appears!>

 

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I remeber alot of names here... =)

 

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this is Dark-Merlin from old EC, and a couple other alliances ive been in. I started in what 2001 or 2000, whenever wintersebb went online.....wow 10 or 11 years gone and I still check this from time to time.


I remember my first VN post/thread (was already playing for awhile but didnt know about the boards)

was whining that Naja empire used to hide behind the mansion barrier and come out just to drain/harm then jump back in. all were macroed 110+ and I was lvl 60 (When I played my original character Pitbull) and I got whooped easily...so I told em they all sucked on VN boards.

my side and their side started saying "stfu dont whine it's allowed in the game" and shiz...



Well after 11 years of experience I can tell you all: - you still sucked ass -

and I proved that to jake and elwood everytime we fought (on their macroed suped up LMCs, nonetheless)



havent played in 6 years or more, hope you're all still doing well! friend or foe happy

 

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i remember you dark merlin, you dropped great lewt. clown
and just for the record i have never macro-ed i use to hire 3 chines guys to play my account 24/7. this was before the WoW gold farmer phenomenon, i was that ahead of the game grin
that and i also stole nzoms best vassal.

 

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We all know that I carried....err carry you in these games. Sit back and have a glass of milk while daddy handles this cow.


Sup Rencor

Sup Mah Hoe!

Ebon, you still suck.

Portal storm mid-mule drop was the shizzy!!

Getting eaten alive for hours on end by level 11 reapers outside the citadel because my armor dropped was about the best AC day ever.

Babos in the subway drop were also a good rush.

 

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The run to the AB Lifestone. What a rush!

Being over too burdened to sell loot. Asking a mage what AL an armor piece was because my dumb arse melee couldn't ID it!

He dawg! And everyone else.

 

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caek 'n b00bies

 

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Mitoshi/Disturbed Head here! Thought I drop in the WE forums to brows around from time to time but never really post anymore.

I now exist on Starcraft II, PS3, and Xbox 360 for the most part. From time to time I test out different mmos but really just waiting for Guild Wars 2 and KOTOR Online to come out. I saw a couple friendly faces among the people posting here. Brought back alot of old memories. If any of you still read this... HI MIMI! and Seeker. Anyone know if Cyns still is around?

 

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LOL Topdawg leveled my mage with a bow happy

 

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I'm old. Was Olaf on HG first, then we moved to WE when it opened & I was Attila the Hun, Braveheart, others. Just resubscribed a week ago, and really enjoying it a lot so far. Hadn't been on since 2005. So much new stuff, feel like a noob again.

 

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who was that girl that TD had a threesome with in real life ?

 

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Not a 3some sheesh.

 

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Not a 3some sheesh.


what happened to your post count??

 

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I was top_dawg1 but I can't access that name for some reason.

 

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writing a paper... figured if swing in

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hmm... jason ftw?

 

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jason ftw indeed...


dafire do you still play this game?

 

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I'm old. Was Olaf on HG first, then we moved to WE when it opened & I was Attila the Hun, Braveheart, others. Just resubscribed a week ago, and really enjoying it a lot so far. Hadn't been on since 2005. So much new stuff, feel like a noob again.



I remember!

I played Poppyspit, under the Corinthian.

I re-subbed last July, tho I started a new account on my very first server before WE opened. Now playing as Pansyspitt on TD.

 

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Haz, sorry to hear of your troubles.

Elwood...

I heard that TD was BD in that 3 some... tongue

 

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Have I been around long enough to be considered an old timer yet?

Not that I still play, or even hang around the forums anymore... tongue

 

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OS! What are you playing now if not AC?

 

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OS! What are you playing now if not AC?


I've been playing this really, really old game call real life... The gameplay gets a little boring at times and the monthly fee is insane but you just can't beat the realism...

 

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Been there, played that. RL is highly over rated tongue

Can't afford to play PTP games so found myself a FTP site.

For anime type cartoonish games, they ain't too bad. dancing


Oh.. and I got pets that loot for me.. love that feature applause

 

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/lurks whistling

/feels like an old-timer because he recognizes all these "old-timers" ! peace

 

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I recognize a lot of names. Resubbed 45 days ago or so. Used to be under Lolin Fet. Yakisoba is my main. Never got high enough to matter before, closing in on 160 now, very happy.

 

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It is Sal, it is...

But you don't really want me to come back and you know it... Who wants to send messages to people with stupidly long and goofy names like Asiudhfkawdnfkas'?

 

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wow, still a few old names posted on here

how bout me

i was the original Shortys-Og, befor trading it to move to DT and played Evil Puma there, ten got Og back after the guy stopped playing and said i could have him back happy

8 years away from AC, i had a look and it was still going so started a trial AC, and have been back playing for a year almost now on DT full time

 

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Shortys-Og posted:
wow, still a few old names posted on here

how bout me

i was the original Shortys-Og, befor trading it to move to DT and played Evil Puma there, ten got Og back after the guy stopped playing and said i could have him back happy

8 years away from AC, i had a look and it was still going so started a trial AC, and have been back playing for a year almost now on DT full time


all that time past and you are still gay. happy

 

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god this thread... if anyone plays COD on Xbox hit me up... ill send ya my gamer tag and we can wreck kids.

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I se alot of names in this thread I remember

it is realy good to see so many of you still around the game and I wish the rest of you would get your buts back onWE!!! lol see you all in game SOON!!!!

 

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overslept posted:
It is Sal, it is...

But you don't really want me to come back and you know it... Who wants to send messages to people with stupidly long and goofy names like Asiudhfkawdnfkas'?


Hello there lady!! love

I'm surprised this thread is still going lol.

I got the itch the other day almost hit the subscribe button couldn't bring myself to doing it though.


Surprised I still remember my username and PW.

 

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lol I remembered 2 out of 3 accounts log-in info on my accounts to bad I can not figure out what the 3rd one is I need my inventory from that account !

 

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Hotspur - '02 to'05. Had the #1 trade bot (under the stairs) in mp. Forgot my account name and pw but been backnfor a little now. Fun but bit slow as only ig infrequently due to young daughter and wifie! She used to be Daphne ig.

 

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Hello, guys, it has been a while. I played Bradshaw and was in the Astral Dragons from 2000-2003ish. I just check in every once in a while to see the old names.

 

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Lot of names in here I remember...

I used to be Mage of Darkness or Litefire or Darkwater...

Just got back into the game about 3 weeks ago, but I'm playing on DT now.

 

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Logged in for the first time in over a year. Went to check out some Drudge fort where I had to destroy the Wall to get into the inner area. Made it all the way to the last wall solo then got creamed. ha ha

It was fun but that Wall must have over a million in Health Points.

Looking to play more often and was wondering if there are any decal utlities still available? The quest one I used to use a lot.

thanks,

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Drudge!

 

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Been a long time, was in some small guilds until TopDawg turned me to the dark side back in the day. Good to see AC is still running.

 

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Whats up everyone! Nice to see some familiar names.

I miss the good ol' days of AC, but its still a fun game if you are on a decent server.

DT seems to be doing just fine, but it can be tricky to start a char if you don't already have one.

If you want to start a char on DT, PM me, I got a 260 Mage and 240 Swordsman, its pretty fun happy

Nice to see everyone!

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Hi!!!

Wow, it was so great reading through this thread, I saw a few familiar names happy

I used to play as Zeddmon, a lvl 156 mage here on WE (and 104 archer on DT)... I played from about 2001 until 2005, then switched to WoW for a few years and I am thinking about resubbing for a bit to AC, to see how the game is these days...

I don't think anybody here still remembers me, but in this thread a few names ringed me a bell:
Logan Silvermoon - didn't know you personally, only from the forum, if I recall correctly, you were quite active!
Azzkickr - name sounds familiar happy
Dire the Wise - though he did not show up in the thread (only his name), I remember him well, even PK'd against him...
Nzom - didn't know you personally either but I remember you being active on forum
Seeker of Kiwi - I remember you the most from the people in this thread, we used to hunt together a few times, fun old times! happy
overslept - also from the forum, as your post count shows still quite active!
Shortys-Og - also used to play with you, if I remember correctly!

I was really surprised to see familiar names, I thought after so many years I would forget most and certainly not find them here on the forum, hehe!

One funny thing that just popped into my mind... there was a thread about Exempt (I think that was the guild's name at the time) and it was about creating a motto for the guild... my favorite one was "We break the rules so you don't have to!" grin

After leaving AC I admitted that I was playing waaaay too much, and it was better for my life that I left, but I just realized that despite all that I still have so many nice memories!

Anyway, I am thinking about coming back a bit to see how the game is... could anyone fill me in a bit? Not on technical aspects of the game (nor the changes), but things like how many people keep playing on WE/DT, are there still active guilds, is it worth coming back? Also, I live in Europe, so my time zones are quite different than the US players' - does this mean I would find even a lot fewer players? My mage here was lvl 156 and my archer on DT was 104 - though out of stupidity I lost most of my stuff (account expired, most things left in house/villa). Is it hard to get back on my feet these days? Would not have that much time to play (back in the day I played a lot - but the game was also the type where you can't log in for 30 minutes - 1 hour because it was not enough for many things like hunting or questing).

The problem with missing out so many years is that for example here on VNboards everything I had is lost... my signature for one, my watched user list, my posts, etc. - anyone knows why they were ALL deleted? I am using the same account I used 10 years ago although have not logged in for a few years and it asked me to change my profile name... Also, if I want to change profile, I always get server error 500 and things like that.

It was great hearing from all of you, I hope someone still reads this thread!

Edit: this is weird, even my post count and registry date is lost/changed... how do I get back my old account? I did password recovery to the email address of my old account, I got the link to change password, logged in and got this fresh account... why??

Edit2: Pff, I logged out and was unable to log back in - the great new login page always threw me back at the login page even though password is correct sad So... one more question: What happened to AC Friends forum??? It was too hard on their database so they got rid of it??

 

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Hello all,

I haven't seen some of these names in years. I played with Topdawg and... ahh geez....Karack? in the beginning days of macroing. Man, people hated us! I recall fellowing with Logan Silvermoon for weeks on end at some Tusker camps. Good times:)

I left AC and played WOW for several years and I am looking at SWTOR. I hope all is well with my old friends.

 

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Shout out to old friends. I hope you are doing well.

I still think AC is the best created MMORPG ever created. Where actually skill makes a difference.

This video has a nice point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WQCpzY8Yis

 

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Woah Another sith and Wanobe sighting o.O

How populated is the actual game these days/ did anyone try darkfall? It looked like AC's spiritual successor.

 

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Sabu113 posted:
Woah Another sith and Wanobe sighting o.O

How populated is the actual game these days/ did anyone try darkfall? It looked like AC's spiritual successor.


Actually that was not me it was my evil twin! skull

 

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Pretty old time here.. since Dec 99 but not playing atm

 

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Anatia posted:
Pretty old time here.. since Dec 99 but not playing atm

I remember you shock

 

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Wish i could go back to the old days and play ac again, this game they call ac now is not the same.
Shouts out to Nzom and all the other people who revered me, even though i didnt like you and you hated me its nice to know some of you are still around.
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Sabu113 posted:
Woah Another sith and Wanobe sighting o.O

How populated is the actual game these days/ did anyone try darkfall? It looked like AC's spiritual successor.


haha... i still come on the boards now and again... i have some chars on DT, but i rarely get the chance to log on.

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Adam says damn I miss being played. I say damn I miss playing Adam. Nothing else has come close to the fun I had playing AC. I have come back a couple of times and played for a few months but the old excitement just isn't there for me. I am thinking about playing again tho. Everything else is just boring, including my rl. At least until fishing season comes again. Hail to all my old friends, and enemies. My memory sucks now so I don't remember much about how to play and so much has been added it would take me 6 months to learn and relearn everything. Beobalf, Elwood, Jake, Eischet, The Black Mage, Sauren, so many others whose names I can't remember right now. Good times were had by all. Starting to get emotional and I am not an emotional person. Better quit while I am ahead. Cya all later.

 

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Anyone planning to play Guild Wars 2?

 

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OpalVirindi posted:
jason ftw indeed...


dafire do you still play this game?


yeah off and on. i play on DT and FF to pk but thats about it. i macro from time to time when i get really board.

 

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