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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
Dude, you just created like the one poll I could never answer since I'm a huge fan of both Superman and Goku. plain

 

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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
Goku gets his ass kicked all the time, short of kryptonite Superman is invincible.

 

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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
Superman (5 votes)


Going with Superman, because well... Goku doesn't have Kryptonite on him.

 

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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
hmm, going to have to wikipedia Goku...never heard of him.

 

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wtf is a goku?

 

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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
Gonna have to go with Batman on this one.

 

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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
Swooshbamwhackbonk posted:
Gonna have to go with Batman on this one.





he won on the ESPNradio.com poll

 

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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
Clearly I left batman off for a reason. He's been trained by ninjas, and you do not f#$% with a ninja, especially a billionaire ninja.

Now as for the poll, I should have mentioned you should maybe be familiar with both Goku and Superman before you vote. It would be closer than you think, in respect to their level of powers within their respective universes.

Superman's powers have fluctuated a ton over the various DC universes, from being originally strong enough to lift a car and jump really high, to being invincible. DC finally got smart and realized having an invincible superhero was stupid, because no bad guys could fight him. So you know what eventually happened? He got killed, in a fistfight with Doomsday. No magic, no red sun exploding in his face, he got beat up by someone as tough as him(I say as tough because they killed each other). He's back obviously, but as of today he's considered nearly-invincible, not totally. Plenty of DC characters can hold their own in a fight with him.

Goku on the other hand just had a progressively increasing power level as the series went on. They actually had power levels in DBZ. A normal human would be like a 5, and at the very beginning of the series Goku was about 1000...bulletproof, could fly, could punch a redwood tree and carry it around on his shoulder, etc. They stopped gauging power levels once they started getting ridiculously higher, but he was easily in the hundreds of millions by the end of the series. 1 million is enough to destroy a planet in a single blast. And I only picked Goku because he's the main protagonist, there are several others in the series you could argue for.

I did vote for Superman though. It would be a good fight, until Superman had enough and flew into the Sun. After absorbing that much solar radiation he basically is a god.

 

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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
Goku can lose. Superman can't unless of course you have the green rock.

 

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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
Big comic fan for years.
They would be a match on strength and speed.

Kryptonite isn't his only weakness. Superman is succeptible to magic and energy as well, so the energy blasts from Goku may have quite an impact on him.
Goku has the instant transmission going for him too if he needs it, and like Lobo, is good at picking up on tactics, weaknesses, and opportunities.

Superman is notorious for using "tried and true" methods when he fights. He is entirely too predictable, and Goku would pick up on it. He thinks, and Superman tries to brute strength it, and show off while doing it.
Throw something at him, he'll shoot it with his eyes. Shoot at him, he'll stand there and puff out his chest. Armor up or put on something that looks like you are putting up a barrier between you and him, and he'll waste a lot of the fight showing you how useless it is as he pulls it apart piece by piece instead of just punching through it. And Superman never ever ever uses his fastest possible speed when fighting, that is reserved for flying or running. And he prefers trying to go toe to toe so much, that he actually gets confused and pounded on when people fight from a distance or from multiple fronts.
That's how Batman keeps winning against him. Not because of skill, because Superman is an idiot when it comes to actually fighting and never thinks ahead.
When fighting, Goku would watch everything Superman is doing, SS3, and shoot a light Kamehameha wave at him. Fast forward several episodes of grunting sparring and playing Hide & Seek, it would be night time and Goku would notice that Superman isn't recovering as fast as he was last season when the fight began. He'd launch something big at Superman, and watch as he took his "hero of the day" stance to either eyebeam it or let it bounce off his chiseled frame. When he looks, he will notice Goku had vanished. He'd turn just in time to realize he teleported directly behind him and get either cold-cocked in the back of the head, or a face full of fully charged kamehameha wave.

The fight would end because only when Superman is on the edge of defeat will he ask why he is being attacked. Goku would be confused and claim that Superman was the one attacking. Superman would pass out, Goku would have a good laugh and they'd all go have dinner.









 

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And ya, I'm the 1 Goku vote heh.

 

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I decided to vote Goku. Gotta support the 2 year battles man.

 

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wtf is a goku?

 

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You're not answering the question.

 

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Subject: Stupid Survey Friday: Who would win in a knock down drag out fight?
Okay people, again Goku is the main character from Dragonball Z. I figured most comic fans would already know that. Quazimortal has a picture of him as his icon, hence the arrows pointing to it.

And Okami I like your style, I might go back and change my vote. But I think in the inevitable rematch, Supes would learn from his mistakes like he always does, and stop messing around.

I also like how you mentioned the fight began last season. I've been watching DBZ again lately, specifically the namek saga, and from the point where Frieza says the planet has 5 minutes until it explodes I think it takes about 14 more episodes until it does.



 

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Thanks.

I'm not too sure how a rematch would go. that would take some thinking. But Goku is faster than Superman, and being able to watch his every move even at the speed he can move, would be a huge disadvantage, even if Superman knew to avoid certain attacks the second time around. Then Goku would have the added advantage that Saiyans get stronger each time they recover from near death battles. The sun doesn't make Superman stronger, it just revitalizes / reenergizes him.

My point though, is that everyone who just blindly votes Superman does so because they just see "invincible to all but Kryptonite" without knowing just how vulnerable he really is to anything that is unexpected, or otherworldy, not to mention his complete lack of being aware of his surroundings while he's fighting.
"Invincible" is really "invincible to humans" (unless they have Kryptonite).
Personally, I think he would get his butt handed to him in the DBZ universe.

I don't thiink there are as many comic fans here that you might think. So far, most of the opinions are based on current media portayals of Superman and Batman, and less on their comic counterparts on which they were based.


 

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Yep, there are at least a half-dozen people in the DC universe on the same physical level as Superman. Darkseid, Doomsday, Martian Manunter, Wonder Woman(yep, she can throw down), and theoretically anyone from Krypton should have identical powers as him.

But hell, most of the population thinks Wolverine is a 6'2" Australian guy now. doh!

 

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Superman, because he doesn't need to charge up for days on end.

I'm guessing it would probably end with Superman frying him in our yellow sun.

 

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I voted Superman. Don't know as much about Goku.

 

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Going with Superman, because well... Goku doesn't have Kryptonite on him.

 

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Superman is American-made, which means that he's superior (but slightly more expensive). Goku was slapped together in some Asian sweat-shop by slave labor, so he may be flashier but he'll fall apart after a couple of uses.

 

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Metal_Dog posted:
Superman is American-made, which means that he's superior (but slightly more expensive). Goku was slapped together in some Asian sweat-shop by slave labor, so he may be flashier but he'll fall apart after a couple of uses.


Ever used a Ginsu knife? Sure they couldn't cut butter after a week, but the first day or two they can slice through depleted uranium happy

 

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Ginsu knife is made in Ohio or something, they gave it an exotic name and had a Japanese man cut tomato's with it. Not their fault people assumed they were getting an oriental super knife.

 

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goku sux he has to make his kids fight for him instead all the time.

 

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