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trying to get an idea of how many people still play on this server, this was my favorite server, i'm also wondering why they dont do a server merge, except DT, of course. it would make things a bit more enjoyable for the people that do still play

but, i guess if they were trying to let AC.... die, they would really be interested in that avenue..... but, i think it would be best for everyone.

 

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Not many read these forums. You would probably be better off posting to the Turbine forums. You can also search for threads there explaining the reasons why a server merge hasn't been done. There are a lot of technical reasons.

 

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Yeah like salo said not many people post on these boards. I'm not really sure if the official ones would be much better though.


All I know is that one reason a merger hasn't happened is because it's a ton of work. Also housing probaly has to do with it, but I think overall it's just a ton of work on as sad as it is a dying game.

Btw I don't play anymore, but Still love AC.

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Hey Wanobe happy

The main reason is the GUID's for items is different on every server and there is no way to easily transfer items because of it. I guess they could transfer your character easily enough, but you would have nothing from the previous server. Not many people would go for losing everything they spent years obtaining.

 

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Like I don't have enough pink fish already!!! While I am reminded of this.... what is that funky chicken thing you have as an icon?

 

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It's a Chocobo from Final Fantasy and you will never have enough fish!

 

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I play when I have time =)

 

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I have played ffxi for a couple years and no chocobo that I rode looked like that funky chicken!

 

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It's a baby chocobo so there! tongue

 

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I play occasionally, usually just society tasks every 3 days or so to try and finish my epic celestial hand suit. plain

 

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Saloben_ign posted:
I have played ffxi for a couple years and no chocobo that I rode looked like that funky chicken!


That's what I was thinking. It looks like a baby chicken.

 

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An other reason why they didn't do a server merge is because of Items.
Game is old school and doesn't have the technology to detect a 'Duped' item.
The thing that keeps all Loot Generated items different is their value, and burden.
You can have the same item, but the value and burden will be different.
They will also have problem with the names. I used to have a Mad Morgana, Caramel Kiss/chocolate kiss on every server. And housing would be a big problem. There is other factors why they can't do it.

 

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An other reason why they didn't do a server merge is because of Items.
Game is old school and doesn't have the technology to detect a 'Duped' item.
The thing that keeps all Loot Generated items different is their value, and burden.
You can have the same item, but the value and burden will be different.
They will also have problem with the names. I used to have a Mad Morgana, Caramel Kiss/chocolate kiss on every server. And housing would be a big problem. There is other factors why they can't do it.


well if they wanted too they could find away around all these problems. in the end the fact is they dont care about AC anymore the money is not there. most of the ppl that still play would give up there house and items, just to make the game what it once was. they could do so much to get ppl back to AC. and really for a lot of us it would not take much. right now i to me it really does seem they are milking the game for what they can. so sad.

 

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That is your opinion only. You did not read any of the post from the dev's on this subject apparently. If you are so unhappy with the state of the game then might I suggest going to another one?

 

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alamo_We posted:
Caramel_kiss posted:
An other reason why they didn't do a server merge is because of Items.
Game is old school and doesn't have the technology to detect a 'Duped' item.
The thing that keeps all Loot Generated items different is their value, and burden.
You can have the same item, but the value and burden will be different.
They will also have problem with the names. I used to have a Mad Morgana, Caramel Kiss/chocolate kiss on every server. And housing would be a big problem. There is other factors why they can't do it.


well if they wanted too they could find away around all these problems. in the end the fact is they dont care about AC anymore the money is not there. most of the ppl that still play would give up there house and items, just to make the game what it once was. they could do so much to get ppl back to AC. and really for a lot of us it would not take much. right now i to me it really does seem they are milking the game for what they can. so sad.



Technically yes they could, but it would mean putting in so much man hours that really it would be a waste. And even with all those man hours put in they couldn't do it 100% meaning the way everyone would want it.

 

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That is your opinion only. You did not read any of the post from the dev's on this subject apparently. If you are so unhappy with the state of the game then might I suggest going to another one?


not played AC in a few years really. its the best game i have ever played tho. so for sure hope i am not right.

i dont care about any post from any devs, i have played way to many games for that. its all talk till it happens. now going to say this, AC is better then anything i played. i dont think anything will come close.

i love and always will love AC pls give me any links from turbine about AC and what they are doing with the game.

what i said is just my opinion for sure, and i have played to many other mmorpgs. more then yourself i bet. and let me guess nothing is better then AC. sucks huh (



 

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Wanobe_WE posted:
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An other reason why they didn't do a server merge is because of Items.
Game is old school and doesn't have the technology to detect a 'Duped' item.
The thing that keeps all Loot Generated items different is their value, and burden.
You can have the same item, but the value and burden will be different.
They will also have problem with the names. I used to have a Mad Morgana, Caramel Kiss/chocolate kiss on every server. And housing would be a big problem. There is other factors why they can't do it.


well if they wanted too they could find away around all these problems. in the end the fact is they dont care about AC anymore the money is not there. most of the ppl that still play would give up there house and items, just to make the game what it once was. they could do so much to get ppl back to AC. and really for a lot of us it would not take much. right now i to me it really does seem they are milking the game for what they can. so sad.



Technically yes they could, but it would mean putting in so much man hours that really it would be a waste. And even with all those man hours put in they couldn't do it 100% meaning the way everyone would want it.


thats my point. if the game was still making money for them and they wanted to work on it they could. look at what they did for D&D online. that game was pretty much dead. now if they did what they did with that game i would be happy for sure.

they made D&D F2P how many ppl do you think that would bring back to AC ? even with a player shop ? AC is the only F2P mmo i would think about paying something for.

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Do you really think Turbine is making a profit off of AC? I doubt there is barely enough subscriptions to even pay the staff wages. If it wasn't for the other mmo's that AC shares resources with they would of had to close it a long time ago. IMO they only keep AC around to say that they have the longest running paid mmo on the market. The only one close to us is EQ1. They opened a few months later I believe.

Be happy with what we do have for as long as we can have it.

 

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Saloben_ign posted:
Do you really think Turbine is making a profit off of AC? I doubt there is barely enough subscriptions to even pay the staff wages. If it wasn't for the other mmo's that AC shares resources with they would of had to close it a long time ago. IMO they only keep AC around to say that they have the longest running paid mmo on the market. The only one close to us is EQ1. They opened a few months later I believe.

Be happy with what we do have for as long as we can have it.



Agreed. I'm sure AC has more subs then you think, because I'm sure tons of people are still subbed but don't play. Still it's not as much as even two years ago. The only reason they can even keep it going is because of the money they make from D&D, and LOTRO.

I play LOTRO and they just moved their server to where they moved AC's servers a few years ago, so I'm guessing it probably had to do with money. They run all of their servers in the same building probably saves money.

My point is that AC doesn't bring in enough money to warrant a change. Even with all the people that once loved the game, a sever merge would not bring enough of those people back to makeup for all the man hours and what not to do so. Even if they did it would be half assed. On top of that other then AC, DAOC, and EQI the style has changed. It's the WoW, Aion, LOTRO, Etc.

I love AC not longer play, but still love it... but Turbine isn't going to put anymore money into it, they know it's on it's last leg and will keep it up as long as they can without putting more money into it.


 

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Yes, that is true. They can do server merges, but it will be difficult with the Loot Generated items. If I played still, I would not be happy to loose everything that took me years to build and make. It will also cause problems with the housing. Turbine would be a non-existing company without Asheron's Call. AC was their big hit game. Without Asheron's Call, Turbine may have not created LOTR or D&D. Asheron's Call was their main source of money(Still is)...

Going back to 'Loot Generated System'.. Yes they can do server merges, but that would ruin the Loot Generated System, even tho they cant bypass the already existing items. It would just destroy the items, (besides quest related items) and I don't think people would be happy loosing everything. Also with merging the servers, would create another obstacle for the team, housing. It would over populate 'Dereth' with housing, portals to the settlements. Main dereth holds housing, non on the 'new' content land. (besides the lone villa island? I think)

 

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Saloben_ign posted:
Do you really think Turbine is making a profit off of AC? I doubt there is barely enough subscriptions to even pay the staff wages. If it wasn't for the other mmo's that AC shares resources with they would of had to close it a long time ago. IMO they only keep AC around to say that they have the longest running paid mmo on the market. The only one close to us is EQ1. They opened a few months later I believe.

Be happy with what we do have for as long as we can have it.


Not true, Turbine is a small company compared to Blizzard, NCSoft, Cryptic Studios, Microsoft.
For a game to be a success (under a small database) is to have a minimum Sub base of 1000+ before the game gets its plug pulled. Even tho, you don't see many people online is probably because different hours, or limited time to play. On that small database, they are making enough profit to keep the game going. They wont use profit from their other games, its kinda retarded to use profit from one game to keep another one up... They could use that profit to expand that game to keep the players. As someone mention, they don't care about AC. If they didn't, they would've pulled the plug long time ago. The game is holding its own weight on its own money.

 

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The base number of subscribers would depend on the company overhead, so 1000 base is just a number you are throwing out. You have no idea what the company overhead for AC is. Even with that number you are saying that a company can survive on an income of 120k a year which would only pay 3-4 staff salaries. Obviously, AC has more staff than than because I know of at least 7 off the top of my head. On top of that you have to include support staff, NOC charges, operations, etc... On Wintersebb the average user count is about 100 users online. On DT the number sits around 300. I don't need to do the math from here because the subscription fees still do not add up to what it would cost to run AC. Of course not all are online at the same time, but even if its only 20% online that still wouldn't add up to the amount needed to keep AC running.

 

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The base number of subscribers would depend on the company overhead, so 1000 base is just a number you are throwing out. You have no idea what the company overhead for AC is. Even with that number you are saying that a company can survive on an income of 120k a year which would only pay 3-4 staff salaries. Obviously, AC has more staff than than because I know of at least 7 off the top of my head. On top of that you have to include support staff, NOC charges, operations, etc... On Wintersebb the average user count is about 100 users online. On DT the number sits around 300. I don't need to do the math from here because the subscription fees still do not add up to what it would cost to run AC. Of course not all are online at the same time, but even if its only 20% online that still wouldn't add up to the amount needed to keep AC running.



I would guess that there are a lot of people that really don't play much anymore but still pay the sub fee. I know a few people that do that, why? Not really sure they just do.

I know that AC would not be running still if they weren't making money, I know they aren't making money like Aion, WoW, or Everquest II is. But they have to still be making money, if they weren't they would of pulled the plug by now.

 

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If it wasn't for the other games supporting AC I don't see how they could be making money. Like I said, I think its all just so they can say they still have the longest running paid mmo.

 

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If it wasn't for the other games supporting AC I don't see how they could be making money. Like I said, I think its all just so they can say they still have the longest running paid mmo.



Maybe. The funny thing AC in it's day wasn't successful because of Turbine, but because of Microsoft. Turbine never ran it as good as Microsoft did.

If they are keeping it around just because of that we'll they have to out live DAOC and EQ1 which just put out another expansion.

Oh yeah... look on the bright side this board hasn't been this active for months. tongue

 

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I play AC, as do 5 of my kids. 4 play mainly on this server.

I've tried the rest, and have come back to the best.

 

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There is a strong possibility that I will be returning to WE this week with the April update.

 

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There is a strong possibility that I will download the free trial just to aggravate Xen until it expires.

 

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There is a strong possibility that if you were to actually do that, I would be so happy that no amount of effort would enable you to annoy me. hugs

 

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I guess I'll post, I don't log in alot though.

 

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Uh oh, Turbine must've seen what I said, as suddenly I got an email inviting me back.

We shall see Xen, we shall see wink

 

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You are already resubscribing but you just don't know it yet... you can't resist the AC calling!

 

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Alas, it seems AC and myself are not to be.

I downloaded the trial, created account, but went I click on Wintersebb it just goes to a black screen. I'm guessing my laptop can't tolerate AC and I can't really afford to screw around with making it work when I graduate in 6 weeks and have a helluva lot of work to do.

Sad times.

Maybe in the summer Xen! hugs

 

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Maybe. The funny thing AC in it's day wasn't successful because of Turbine, but because of Microsoft. Turbine never ran it as good as Microsoft did.



I am not so sure about that, history has a strange way of making things seem better than they where. MS had the game at the peak of popularity but never did anything to market it at all, it was also due to MS not addressing certain things that where important to the community and the apathy from Ken Karl, that people started to leave, such as when DAoC hit the shelves.

A lot of players where lost back then and there is a reason why Turbine going solo was a very celebrated move amongst the remaining but rapidly dwindling community.

Eventually though, despite the change of ownership to Turbine it was really a case of the same old crap.

 

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