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Subject: How is Terry Goodkind's series of books?
The one starting with Wizards First Rule? I had read Book 1 when it first came out years ago, but never continued with it, though my brother owns the series.

Worth reading?

I just finished a full 7 month Wheel of Time Re-read and want to start something else. happy

 

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Subject: How is Terry Goodkind's series of books?
Ohh good God.

Talk about a can of worms.

Terry Goodkind is the WORST PUBLISHED AUTHOR EVER. He is also a complete douchbag megalomaniac. Whenever somebody points out how much HIS BOOKS SUCK he says they aren't smart enough to understand them.

Trust me on this one, nothing you could ever read would be worse than Terry Goodkind. If you look back through the board I'm sure you can find one of my essays on how much I loathe Sword of Truth.

The first three books aren't terrible, but after that it takes a nose dive you couldn't fathom. He literally writes 90 pages of two characters repeating themselves back and forth to each other.

If you smeared mod on a page it would be and smell better than Terry Goodkind.

 

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The first few books in the series are interesting. Then he gets preachy and repetitive. I wouldn't start them if I were you.

 

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Subject: How is Terry Goodkind's series of books?
Preachy is an understatement. The books are a vehicle for Goodkind to push his extremely simplistic world view. He goes on and on and on bludgeoning us over the head with something every middle school philosophy student has already contemplated and moved past to something with actual substance.

If you want to read 10,000 pages of the same mantra preached at you over and over and over then this is the series for you. He seriously repeats himself hundreds of times throughout the series.

Nothing is worse than Sword of Truth.

 

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Subject: How is Terry Goodkind's series of books?
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Preachy is an understatement. The books are a vehicle for Goodkind to push his extremely simplistic world view. He goes on and on and on bludgeoning us over the head with something every middle school philosophy student has already contemplated and moved past to something with actual substance.

If you want to read 10,000 pages of the same mantra preached at you over and over and over then this is the series for you. He seriously repeats himself hundreds of times throughout the series.

Nothing is worse than Sword of Truth.
That was actually how I felt after the first book.

Maybe I will skip it then.

 

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Subject: How is Terry Goodkind's series of books?
Yeah I wouldn't really recommend anything beyond the first book, although I do enjoy the overall story and characters, the author needs to get his head out of his ass.

I do very much enjoy the Legend of the Seeker series though on TV! It's all based off the first book, with lots of the better storylines from the other books thrown in, and no preachy shiznat.

 

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Subject: How is Terry Goodkind's series of books?
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Yeah I wouldn't really recommend anything beyond the first book, although I do enjoy the overall story and characters, the author needs to get his head out of his ass.

I do very much enjoy the Legend of the Seeker series though on TV! It's all based off the first book, with lots of the better storylines from the other books thrown in, and no preachy shiznat.
Now that I think about it even more, I remember him saying that the Wizards First Rule was "Everybody is stupid" or something like that.

I felt the author actually felt that in reality.

 

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Goodkind claims he doesn't read. He is such a pretentious douche-bag I'm tempted to believe him, but then how did he bastardize so many ideas from Wheel of Time?

 

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Haddonfield, NJ: Second Question - I've noticed similarities between your Sword of Truth series and Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series. I've often voiced my suspicion that these two series might be occurring on the same world...how crazy am I?

Terry Goodkind: If you notice a similarity, then you probably aren't old enough to read my books.


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Orem Utah: What do you think distinguishes your books from all of the other fantasy books out there, and why should readers choose to read your series?

Terry Goodkind: There are several things. First of all, I don't write fantasy. I write stories that have important human themes. They have elements of romance, history, adventure, mystery and philosophy. Most fantasy is one-dimensional. It's either about magic or a world-building. I don't do either.

Because most fantasy is about world-building and magic, a lot of it is plotless and has no story. My primary interest is in telling stories that are fun to read and make people think. That puts my books in a genre all their own.


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Don't be fooled. The assertion made by these detractors is a note wrapped around a brick thrown through the window. These people are not fans. There are hundreds if not thousands of fantasy books that fulfill their professed taste in books. Why would they continue to read books they claim are bad? Because they hate that my novels exists. Values arouse hatred in these people. Their goal is not to enjoy life, but to destroy that which is good -much like a school child who does not wish to study for a test and instead beats up a classmate who does well. These people hate what is good because it is good. Their lives are limited to loathing and indifference. It isn't that they want to read a good book, what they want is to make sure that you do not. Ignore them.


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Weymouth, MA: In your opinion who is the most must-read, cutting edge writer publishing today?

Terry Goodkind: Ayn Rand.


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Subject: How is Terry Goodkind's series of books?
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Yeah I wouldn't really recommend anything beyond the first book, although I do enjoy the overall story and characters, the author needs to get his head out of his ass.

I do very much enjoy the Legend of the Seeker series though on TV! It's all based off the first book, with lots of the better storylines from the other books thrown in, and no preachy shiznat.

and no rape. sad

 

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Yeah, if you like rape then Goodkind is your author.

I can only think of one female character who isn't raped, and she comes damn close.

 

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i started reading the series recently, after having watched the tv show a couple months ago. i enjoy the books, its an interesting world and story. but i have to admit the only fantasy novels i read in the past have been tolkien and salvatore, so i don't have much to compare it to. i am on book 3.

 

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Their is nothing in existence more horrible than the Sword of Truth, i don't even know how Yoss got passed the first 100 pages let alone the first 3 books.

 

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Old topic, but I can't resist posting this link, since it never fails to amuse me: http://sandstormreviews.blogspot.com/2006/08/goodkind-parodies.html

 

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Old topic, but I can't resist posting this link, since it never fails to amuse me: http://sandstormreviews.blogspot.com/2006/08/goodkind-parodies.html


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I read the entire series, I honestly enjoyed it. Granted I really only enjoyed the first four and the last three, the middle ones not so much. Overall though, if you really liked the second one keep going all the way, if you thought it was OK I would at least read the second one, Stone of Tears as I thought it was one of the best of the series.


Just my opinion though, I've noticed you either love it or hate this series, no middle ground.

 

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He does sound like a douche :>

I agree with him on Ayn Rand though, you should read it, even if you don't agree with the views in the books. (I don't)

 

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I've noticed you either love it or hate this series, no middle ground.


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LOL, fun read through this thread.

I enjoyed the first two or three books, although i wondered if he was for real in where he kept taking things. Then it just started getting insipidly stupid, to the point that i can't even enjoy the first few books anymore.

 

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I read them all, 1 was my favorite book until Patrick Rothfuss's Name of the Wind. The 1st three are great, 4-5 are ok, 6 tho (faith of the fallen) was my 2nd fav of the series and then they were annoying until the final 3 which were a nice trilogy of themselves.

I have also read all the Wheel of Time (except for the ones out after he died, just waiting to re-read until they are all out) and if you liked those, I see no reason why you wouldn't enjoy goodkind's work.

And uhh, the tv series is annoying for me, altho I have dutifully watched them all, they change dumb things loike stripping richards magic power

 

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I have also read all the Wheel of Time (except for the ones out after he died, just waiting to re-read until they are all out) and if you liked those, I see no reason why you wouldn't enjoy goodkind's work.


This might be true simply because Goodkind seemingly took all of Jordan's ideas, gave them different names, and wrote a slightly different story using all of those borrowed concepts. In other words, there is nothing original in Goodkinds work and that is being kind. I would actually accuse him of stealing another authors work. The only thing he adds is a weird fascination with sexual abuse.

 

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Nardraug_Mid_Lance posted:
I have also read all the Wheel of Time (except for the ones out after he died, just waiting to re-read until they are all out) and if you liked those, I see no reason why you wouldn't enjoy goodkind's work.


This might be true simply because Goodkind seemingly took all of Jordan's ideas, gave them different names, and wrote a slightly different story using all of those borrowed concepts. In other words, there is nothing original in Goodkinds work and that is being kind. I would actually accuse him of stealing another authors work. The only thing he adds is a weird fascination with sexual abuse.


Okay I get tired of this crap, Jordan f***ing bastardized half of the Arthurian legend, so don't sit around and pretend that the WoT is so f***ing original.

 

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There is a pretty clear difference between taking ideas from legend and directly copying entire concepts from a book that came out a couple years ago.

 

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At least you admit your point was stupid.

 

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Yossarian_42 posted:
There is a pretty clear difference between taking ideas from legend and directly copying entire concepts from a book that came out a couple years ago.


This. I had assumed most would understand this without the need to have it spelled out for them.

 

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I don't know...I read Goodkind first and when going through WoT I didn't pick up the similarities. Even thinking now consciously thinking about it, I can only think of a few things. I can think of a lot of things that are different. Maybe someone can make a list of the "ripped off" ideas.

I'm rereading WoT now actually. I want to read the new ones, but I read the 1st 11 in such a blur and don't remember everything going on.

 

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