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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
I've tried reinstalling everything fresh and whatnot, everything seems to run fine just when I get in-game, no Decal shows up. Haven't played in years.
Running Vista all up to date with UAC turned off.
Here's a decal export

Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.0

type, enabled, name, version, clsid
Plugins, 1, GoArrow, 1.2.0.1, {46BBF551-8578-4A59-B2FB-B5D9F4C719FA}
Plugins, 1, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.0, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 1, SSSort, 2.2.0.0, {B9765335-51EC-4C24-AE39-D6E1BA6AE4AD}
Network Filters, 1, ACDC Core Filter, 7.2.2.0, {2DB1B641-4039-4D69-831A-79915EC266CE}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.0, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.0, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.0, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.0, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.0, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.0, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.0, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.0, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.0, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.0, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.0, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.0, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

[Protected Storage Service] : Manual

Decal Settings
[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\Program Files\Turbine\Asheron's Call - Throne of Destiny\
[Launcher App] : ACDCClient.exe
[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 24536 bytes, Version 0.0.11.3962
[messages.xml] : 54173 bytes, Version 2008.04.15.1
[Video Memory] : -1750646784

D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)


---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 2)

C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.98.2)
[atl70.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed
[atl71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)
[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.100.5002.0)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.10.9404.0)


---Video Device Information---
[Device] : ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9460&SUBSYS_27001682&REV_00
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{55474BB2-81EF-4CB8-ACD4-F4803976FFDE}\0000
[Manufacturer] : ATI Technologies Inc.
[ChipType] : ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9460)
[DACType] : Internal DAC(400MHz)
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 2426 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 2426 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1920
[DisplayHeight] : 1200
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 60
[MonitorName] : SyncMaster 245B/245BW/245BPlus(Digital)
[MonitorMaxRes] :
[DriverName] : atiumdag.dll,atidxx32.dll,atidxx64,atiumdva.cap,atiumd64,atiumd6a,atitmm64
[DriverVersion] : 8.14.0010.0671
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 5/16/2009 16:08:33
[DriverDateLocal] : 16/05/2009 4:08:33 p.m.
[DriverSize] : 3064832
[MiniVdd] : n/a
[MiniVddDateEng] : n/a
[MiniVddDateLocal] : n/a
[MiniVddSize] : 0
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
[Beta] : No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
[Identifier] : {D7B71EE2-D720-11CF-AD77-0A07A1C2C535}
[DDIVer] : 10
[DDIVerEng] : 10.1
[DDIVerLocal] : 10.1
[iAdapter] : 0
[VendorID] : 0x1002
[DeviceID] : 0x9460
[SubSystemID] : 0x27001682
[RevisionID] : 0x0000
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
typically the answer is to install decal/plugins and AC to other then the c:\program files folder where stuff doesnot have write permissions.

instll to/under a c:\games folder where they have permissions, run as admin.

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
Try updating your video drivers first.

As long as the UAC is turned off, folder location doesn't matter.

 

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Cheers, will update my video drivers now, folder permissions/running as admin issues etc will most definitely not be an issue

 

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Unfortunately still a no-go.
Seems Decal isn't injecting at all sad
Any other things to try?

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
Do what Agnari says and move AC/Decal and all plugins to the c:\games or c:\public\games folder. Even with UAC turned off programs have issues if installed into the program files directory.

 

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Just tried C:\Public\Games and just C:\AC for both Decal & AC, still no injection working sad

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
Did you run windows update after doing the fresh install of your OS?

 

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My OS has been installed for a long time now and is always up to date with windows update.

Here's my decal export with new paths n stuff


Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.0

type, enabled, name, version, location, clsid
Plugins, 1, GoArrow, 1.2.0.1, C:\Program Files\Decal Plugins\GoArrow\GoArrow.dll, {46BBF551-8578-4A59-B2FB-B5D9F4C719FA}
Plugins, 1, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\DHS.dll, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 1, SSSort, 2.2.0.0, C:\Program Files\Decal Plugins\SSSort\SSSort.dll, {B9765335-51EC-4C24-AE39-D6E1BA6AE4AD}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\Decal.FileService.dll, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\SpellFilter.dll, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\/Decal.Adapter.dll, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decaldat.dll, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalrender.dll, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\Inject.dll, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalnet.dll, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\D3DService.dll, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\/Decal.Adapter.dll, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalFilters.dll, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\Decal.dll, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\Inject.dll, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.0, C:\Users\Public\Games\Decal\decalInput.dll, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 6002)

[Protected Storage Service] : Manual

Decal Settings
[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\Users\Public\Games\AC\
[Launcher App] : acclient.exe
[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 24536 bytes, Version 0.0.11.3962
[messages.xml] : 54173 bytes, Version 2008.04.15.1
[Video Memory] : -1751691264

D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)


---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 2)

C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.98.2)
[atl70.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed
[atl71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)
[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.100.5002.0)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.10.9404.0)


---Video Device Information---
[Device] : ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY4
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9460&SUBSYS_27001682&REV_00
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{55474BB2-81EF-4CB8-ACD4-F4803976FFDE}\0000
[Manufacturer] : ATI Technologies Inc.
[ChipType] : ATI display adapter (0x9460)
[DACType] : Internal DAC(400MHz)
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 2425 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 2425 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1920
[DisplayHeight] : 1200
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 60
[MonitorName] : SyncMaster 245B/245BW/245BPlus(Digital)
[MonitorMaxRes] :
[DriverName] : atiu9pag.dll,aticfx32.dll,aticfx32.dll,atiumdag.dll,atidxx32.dll,atiumdva.cap
[DriverVersion] : 8.14.0001.6091
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 12/12/2009 08:50:12
[DriverDateLocal] : 12/12/2009 8:50:12 a.m.
[DriverSize] : 20480
[MiniVdd] : n/a
[MiniVddDateEng] : n/a
[MiniVddDateLocal] : n/a
[MiniVddSize] : 0
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
[Beta] : No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
[Identifier] : {D7B71EE2-D720-11CF-F962-0107A1C2C535}
[DDIVer] : 10
[DDIVerEng] : 10.1
[DDIVerLocal] : 10.1
[iAdapter] : 0
[VendorID] : 0x1002
[DeviceID] : 0x9460
[SubSystemID] : 0x27001682
[RevisionID] : 0x0000
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
What happens if you load decal with no plugins loaded?

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
Try installing AC Dual Client. I know that it's not required, but I've had to load it to get my decal working several times.

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
isn't that more of the 'special' dx9 file from the decal site that must be downloaded and installed which is NOT typically installed by the more standard setup's for dx9 as it is more of an AUTHOR file then a 'user' file?

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
Saloben_ign posted:
What happens if you load decal with no plugins loaded?


That was what I originally tried, I only downloaded plugins to check to make sure it wasn't an issue of having no plugins installed. Same issue.


yaroz_vn posted:
Try installing AC Dual Client. I know that it's not required, but I've had to load it to get my decal working several times.


Originally had AC Dual Client installed, uninstalled it when I moved stuff into the Public\Games folder, made no difference but will try that again.


agnari posted:
isn't that more of the 'special' dx9 file from the decal site that must be downloaded and installed which is NOT typically installed by the more standard setup's for dx9 as it is more of an AUTHOR file then a 'user' file?


I'll try that DirectX download on the Decal site.

 

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Tried everything, still no go sad
Going to reformat and install Windows 7 32bit tonight and see how that goes, been meaning to do it for the last week so figure now will be best time as any.

 

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After formatting and going from Vista32 to Win7 x64 it now works tongue

 

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How's this for cool, I installed AC Dual Client and subsequently had to install .Net Framework 1.1 - as soon as I did these, Decal no longer worked.
Uninstalled ACDC and .net 1.1 and Decal works again

 

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VI tells me decal doesn't use net 1.1 so it should have NO impact if installed or not.

are you sure AC-DC had 'start decal' checked IF you didnt start up decal before launching ac-dc?

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
agnari posted:
VI tells me decal doesn't use net 1.1 so it should have NO impact if installed or not.

are you sure AC-DC had 'start decal' checked IF you didnt start up decal before launching ac-dc?


Decal and most plugins use .net 2.0. Some plugins (Alinco3) use .net 3.5.

ACDC uses .net 1.1.

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
goarrow and sssort both use .net 2 and MS installer 3.1. so the installation of .net 1/1.1 should have NO impact on whether or not decal is shown/runs.

 

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Subject: Decal doesn't show up in-game
Yeah decal was started the whole time
Just think it's weird that I install it, decal stops loading, I uninstall it and it works again.
Installing 1.1 was a pre-req of installing ACDC but I uninstalled them both

 

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