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Now, I just need to get my copy from Amazon.
If you like the dresden Files, or hell, just want a really good fantasy series, I would highly suggest everyone to pick it up and give it a go. And the best part, even though it's 6 books, the series is finished so you will get a start and a finish 
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Those assclowns are taking seven days to get the book here from 200 miles away.
I've been waiting all this time to get Wheel of time 12 because I wanted the free shipping when I ordered this and that.
I believe the paperback of book five was always released today.
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<3 Kindle
Been waiting for this one for awhile. 
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I've been waiting for that one for only a year and grabbed it off of Audible.com just as soon as my credit kicked in. However, I am only now listening to it since I was caught up in Robin Hobb's "Farseer" and "Tawny Man" trilogies.
It's been a good season for books I have been waiting for: WoT book 12, Codex Alera book 6, the latest Outlander offering by Diana Gabaldon, the final book in John XII Hawks "The Fourth Realm" trilogy and Lois McMaster Bujold's "The Sharing Knife" series all coming available recently. WooHoo!!
Next on the "I'm-waiting-for" list is Dresden Files book 12 - "Changes" due April 6, 2010
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Nice, looking forward to it.
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Reading it now! The library actually had a fairly short waiting list for it, so I got it from them. Enjoying it so far! Hubby had to take it away from me so I'd go to bed when I was supposed to last night. 
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Reading it now! The library actually had a fairly short waiting list for it, so I got it from them. Enjoying it so far! Hubby had to take it away from me so I'd go to bed when I was supposed to last night.
Yeah that is how I do it when a book first comes out too. I prefer to buy paperback and those usually don't come out until later.
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I just read the first book and while I thought it was good I can see why nobody was willing to publish his fantasy work before he was famous. It is a very cliche and generic epic fantasy story straight down to the farm boy and the castle siege. With all the great, creative writers in the genre today I felt like I was taking a trip back to the 80s reading formula fantasy. from the characters to the plots to the themes- there was nothing new or interesting.
Hopefully the series will pick up in the later books; so far I am not excited. The sparse, easy read, obvious result style of Butcher just doesn't translate 1:1 to this genre.
That isn't to say it is bad, if you like epic fantasy and you like Jim Butcher you will probably like this. I enjoyed it well enough that I intend to finish the series.
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I've missed 80's formulaic fantasy. So there .
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I found that the series did get better as it went along, just like his Dresden stuff. It might still be a little formulaic, but still had enough twists to make me not want to put it down.
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Maybe I just think the same way Butcher does or something but I thought one of the biggest weaknesses was the overwhelming lack of plot twists. I'm currently on book three and I don't think the series has surprised me once- not even in a small way. Hell, all you have to do is look at the titles of the books and you'll know how the over-arcing story is going to play out after reading half of the first book.
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The books have gotten much better.
I wonder if the first book wasn't an older manuscript he had written and edited up a bit, I think the quality of the books makes a dramatic leap.
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Maybe I just think the same way Butcher does or something but I thought one of the biggest weaknesses was the overwhelming lack of plot twists. I'm currently on book three and I don't think the series has surprised me once- not even in a small way. Hell, all you have to do is look at the titles of the books and you'll know how the over-arcing story is going to play out after reading half of the first book.
I actually quit reading A Song of Fire and Ice in the middle of the second book because it had too many plot twists. It gets annoying. I reread all those 80's books you dog on so much all the time because I enjoy a good, straight forward fantasy book sometimes. They're becoming very rare and I find that sad.
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I think there is a happy medium to be had. I don't like plot twists that come from left field, but I do enjoy well crafted twists and more importantly plot reveals where all of the facts are there- I just didn't see it coming. I think Martin uses too many dramatic, out-of-left-field, twists but some of the newer authors like Brandon Sanderson who will bring multiple threads together at the end in a way you didn't see coming are the best around. My best recent example would be Sanderson's Warbreaker.
I think every good author keeps you thinking by holding certain things back and using them as plot twists and plot reveals. The trick is making them cool by tricking the reader or making them fulfilling by allowing the reader to figure them out. Even these Butcher books where I have things pieced together I enjoy the fact that I noticed the clues and was able to use them.
How do you keep the reader interesting if they know what is going to happen with absolute certainty? The most effective way to keep me up until 5 AM is to dangle an unknown over my head that I know will be answered later in the book.
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codex alera is one of the series i was planning on reading when my nook gets here but now i'm not sure if i want to.  i like dresden but "80s fantasy" is a put off for some reason.
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I would still recommend it. The 80s fantasy feel is only really a problem in the first book which gets going pretty slowly. It is on par with Terry Brooks for abysmally slow starts but it picked up after the first book. I was up until 5 AM yesterday reading book 4.
The main character stops being a clueless farmer after book one and you have none of that inept retard all the way up to the final battle you get with most 80s fantasy. He is a strong and competent character is there is no grand battle versus evil after book one either. He still falls in to the castle siege and long action sequence trap but he does the same thing in Dresden so I think you will enjoy it if you enjoy the action pacing on Dresden.
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It's not like a series or book has to be a masterpiece in order to be worthy of reading. As long as it draws me in and is entertaining I don't really care if it is not 100% original and great.
I mean really it is not like there are THAT many decent fantasy series out there that most of us have not already read.
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If you read this series makes sure you have your Starcraft disks handy. You won't be able to help yourself.
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If you read this series makes sure you have your Starcraft disks handy. You won't be able to help yourself.
lol true
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i'm resurrecting this thread because i'm almost done with the first book. (like 60 pages to go.) jesus christ. i kind of hated it at first. like.. seriously was just bored to tears by it, despite really liking the magic system. it's new to me. not sure if it's been done before. if it hasn't then bravo to him. anyway, what i love about butcher, even though i KNOW what's coming, he still manages to excite me when it comes. like the marat turning on each other. i saw that the second tavi wasn't killed. that was like 200 pages before it happened. (which is half the length of the book so it's a considerable distance away to see it coming.) it just happened and i was like.. YES! SUCK IT BITCHES! generally i'm like ugh. way to think outside the box there. but he painted the evil side so well that i want them to lose. generally, i'm rooting for evil to win. and i'm always sad that it doesn't.  plus the can i keep him joke totally made me laugh. screw you all. it was funny. 
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Like I said yesterday in the other thread, I think it gets really good after you get through the drudgery of book one. It is almost like an entirely different series.
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Like I said yesterday in the other thread, I think it gets really good after you get through the drudgery of book one. It is almost like an entirely different series.
Staying away from the other thread for the simple fact that Changes is still on hold at the library, so not sure what you have said there.
But agree The Codex Alera series is one that definitely picks way up as it goes.
But now that I think about it, so does the Dresden Files. If I think someone may like the series, I always have them start on book 3, and if they like them, then have them start over at 1.
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There is a story with Dresden. He kept writing the books the way he wanted but they weren't accepted so he wrote what he considered to be formulaic crap and that is how books 1 and 2 got published. After the first two he was able to write the way he wanted to and the series got much better.
I actually didn't notice it, though book 2 was a natural favorite for me due to the super charged werewolf, but I've seen many people say books one and two suck.
Also, the thread I was referencing was my Joe Abercrombie thread.
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