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... through Steam (I <3 Steam). You get to download and play the BETA up until release, an extra 7 days, the obligatory ingame items (I don't know how I ever leveled in WAR for my 29 levels without my portable campfire).

But anyway my one day so far review is 'I like it'. Smooth frames, nice character creation, quests, inventory, everything is nice and very intuitive.

I remember having a sinking feeling about Warhammer (retail) after about the same amount of play, which was borne out. I feel pretty much the opposite about AION (which is in beta).

While not earth-shattering, the game seems like it has a lot going for it and could finally be (dare I hope) my DAOC replacement.

I don't think its going to suck.

 

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That seems to be the cry of the decnt games these days "It doesn't suck" Warhammer got stale for me about 5 minutes afte beta ended, same with Lord of the rings, I quit 2 days after launch.

I've also been playing Aion since Friday, it's not bad, but until I see what the real PvP is like I can't call it a success. As it is when I entered the arena today thinking my level 15 would be up against his own range, I got wiped by 2 level 25s , then another level 25. They don't bother pairing arena battles up by class or skill, just PvP rank. The economy is also hideous, similar to FFXI, there's only 1 denominatino of money, the Kinah, and it flows as from a fountain, so much so that level 15 items routinely cost upwards of 50k-100k Kinah, it worries me when I see items run for millions of a coin before beta is even done.

 

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I mildly enjoyed WAR until I got to rank 40 and saw what crap the actual end game was compared to DAOC. I'd probably try Aion if I hadn't gotten hooked back on DAOC. With the upcoming merger of every DAOC cluster into a new server called Ywain, it'll be more fun for me RvRing there than leveling from scratch in a new game. I'm worried that since Aion only has 2 player realms that it will quickly encounter the population balance problems that plagued WAR in its RvR endgame. I'm keeping a wait and see approach to Aion for the first 6 months or so.

 

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I'm with Meddy on this one... I learned my lesson to wait for a game to simmer down before jumping right into it. Anything looks great at the start - then it just slams into disaster.. like Lindsey Lohan.

As for DAOC, the super cluster really is making me unhappy. I wish they would allow us to copy our duplicate chars to the 'gaheris/mordred' server, but I still would be in a major bind with the trio's I'm going to have. I wish there was another way...

I still wish they would do either an old frontiers, or an inner realm invasion such as the one proposed long ago. There is a Freeshards server with the population to rival Killibury that switches from OF to NF every few weeks that I might hit up regularly now that my DAOC account is cancelled for the first time ever.

I been enjoying WoW lately, mostly cuz my sister and some rl friends are stuck on that game. Games are so fun when you have a group of people you actually phsyically know playing it next to you or you can all meet up and just jam out or something in a group. I miss that about DAOC, most my rl friends that played it went insane, or went to the military etc.

We will see how the new server goes.. sometimes the ship sunk too far to even bother keeping afloat. I doubt I'll ever have the feelings and fun for this game like I did before.

 

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I was on the fence with this game until I grouped up with some guild mates durring CB4, then the game became much more fun than anything I've played in recent years. The experience reminded me of old school DAoC and EQ dungeon crawls, a feeling I haven't felt in a long long time durring pre-end game level grinds. I also got to mess around with a couple hours of group vs group PvP, and it felt good as well. Real good. However, I'm still reserving judgement on RvR till we get to see it in the upcoming CB events.

I have to agree with what has already been said, the game isn't the next coming of christ - however it seems like they went back to the roots of MMOing and so far it just feels better than anything on the market today. Being that this impression comes from Beta, two months prior to release I've actually let myself get excited about this one.

 

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What are the rewards for pvp? Like anything in terms of RAs and RR's?

 

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Guud posted:
What are the rewards for pvp? Like anything in terms of RAs and RR's?

ePeen, Guud. Massive quantities of ePeen.

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your wings change color and you can buy weapons / armor. It’s kinda like WoW’s reward system opposed to DAOCs.

 

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Ugh, what server? Incase I decide to be a moron and get suckered into another mmo.

 

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I’m not playing this game yet - personally.. I’m playing WoW because I joined a local Daytona Beach guild and it’s kinda fun playing with people living all over nearby. We all have dinner together sometimes and hit up like movies etc. It’s not bad – even though an extremely large part of it is emo kids. My sister got me in it because she plays this game religiously and knew a bunch of them. It was the best part of DAOC for me, playing with people I knew… so this kinda gives me a spark even tho for me, especially since all I did was grind, level, and quit WoW – not enjoying any ‘end game.’ I’ll stay here a bit and maybe – like Meddy said – try this one out after about 6 months to see how it is. A mistake I did was focus on Warhammer and that game just was crap as soon as you hit the end game. I’ll wait to hear what people say about this game first for a change.

 

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server//char names for WoW lexi?!

 

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For Horde we are on Shattered Hands, but I rarely play there cept when I feel like swooping around and dropping on people, shooting them, and flying away like a prick.

For alliance we have Daggerspire and Moonrunner.

We use Moonrunner mainly as our raiding in safety area and just bg it up or screw around in Wintergrasp.

I have been under a tremendous amount of medication from my surgery (ankle double broke after being already broken, and had to be re set twice). So I mainly sit /followed on someone and have them farm Shatt for my skeleton mount hehe.

Thanks to medication, I have maxed out my fishing and cooking... without it, I don't think I coulda progressed so far. It's amazing what flashes on your screen when your pumped up more then Michael Jackson & Heath Ledger while listening to cheezy 80s techno and watching Harry Potter DVD's for some odd reason and eating spaghetti that your sister somehow burned to a crisp yet still taste mildly stimulating.

 

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After falling out of WoW, and dumping LOTRO and WAR about a month after beta completed, I don't have high hopes for Aion. I keep trying to tell my kid it's not DAoC, those days are over.

My draw to DAoC was the small realm population, and the fact that, when I signed on there was always someone glad to see me on, asking me to MT a run or join their gank group or something. The point of playing an RPG is to enjoy it enough that you're not just another face in the crowd. The huge single serve systems of EQ2 and such guarenteed that I'd never have the time or drive to be "that guy" that I was in Dark Age. The guy that Cyce used as his excuse for wanting the zerker nerf. You just couldn't get as personal with another game as you could with dark age.

I don't feel that in Aion, I don't feel it being personal, or friendly, or home. Its a pretty game, full of colors and cut scenes and spiffy armor and weapons. I just don't see the game where I could generate enough respect from an opponent that they wouldn't 10 man gank me if they caught me standing solo unless I attacked first, or at least not without saluting me first and after.

You know what they say, you can't go home again.

 

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Are they going to wipe characters after beta? If so, I may just hold until release.

 

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I believe after beta there is a 1 week head start for pre orders.

 

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it was these message boards, irc, etc that made daoc so much better.

 

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it was these message boards, irc, etc that made daoc so much better.

QFT!

 

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I bought it and rubbed it on my gene.. genit... uh... genatell... penis.

 

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any updates on this game btw?

 

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Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
any updates on this game btw?


I'm definitely enjoying it so far, but it's not hard to impress me after the WAR failure...

 

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^^What he said. Come to Siel server tongue Arevshad/Kapriel (Uruz: Teireth/Donnek)

 

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So what server did you all finally pick? Blackthornes all rolled on some server with 120 people but not sure what it is. My guildies all in love with and playing Darkfall. I'm still subscribed in WAR but I merged guild with and other as we were down to 10 players and from those just Oogee and me from original rolls way back when. I'm thinking of taking a wait and see with Aion also but on the flip side games are best the first few months anyways. So maybe I'll go now. On the fence.

 

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LancelotOCT posted:
So what server did you all finally pick? Blackthornes all rolled on some server with 120 people but not sure what it is. My guildies all in love with and playing Darkfall. I'm still subscribed in WAR but I merged guild with and other as we were down to 10 players and from those just Oogee and me from original rolls way back when. I'm thinking of taking a wait and see with Aion also but on the flip side games are best the first few months anyways. So maybe I'll go now. On the fence.



Last I heard, Skala wanted people to reserve their names on 2 servers, I'm not really sure why. "Server Selection Create 1 on Zikel and 1 on Triniel "

I'm playing Rock Band: Beatles until it all shakes out, and a little be of reactivated LotRO. Darkfall does kind of intrigue me, I just don't think I can spend enough time with it to be useful. Everyone says Aion is fun, but I don't know.

 

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This soon after WAR, I'm not ready to pve in a new MMO for a month or two to reach the level cap only to find out the end game sucks. I'll be interested in hearing ex-DAOCers' reviews of Aion after they've been RvRing at level 50 in it for a few months.

 

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I picked up Aion yesterday, hit 10, playing a chanter:

http://na.aiononline.com/characters/Triniel/Choochx

Pretty fun little game, obviously I'm not far enough to make any final opinions. $50 for a month of play on any game is worth it to me, and I (should) have plenty of free time in the coming months to start up a grindey MMO.

I'm literally playing by myself (although Nalyien is downloading it this afternoon to play with me) so if anyone is interested in leveling with us there is plenty of time to catch up to me, I'm still a newb.

There are a lot of features I really dig - the private stores are awesome for getting cheap armor/weapons at quest hubs (many players go 1/2 of the suggested price, it's still more than selling to a merchant, but allows people to get gear for their class). The short cutscenes for quests are very welcomed.

It really feels like a very very polished MMO (as it should be, its been out in Korea for what, 6 months? a year?), with features hand picked from every MMO - DAoC, EQ, WoW, AoC, WAR....

 

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Chooch, if you're actually going to play, I'd be down for giving it a go :P Although I'd probably only be able to put in 3-4 hours a day at the most from like 8-12 est :P

Let me know

 

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I can't promise I'll make it to the endgame or play for 6 months but I'm gunna at least give it a couple month whirl. I'm playing a chanter (think Friar in DAoC - buffer, small/medium heals, medium dps) and Naly is playing a Sorc (cross between WAR sorc and WoW mage - dps, blink, portals etc).

IM me later (same as VN username) on if you grab it. It's on Steam, but I just grabbed it at BestBuy.

And yeah, I don't have many hours to play per night either. But like WAR I'll prolly eventually hit endgame... you beat me there by weeks heh.

Oh and the one thing I'm hearing that I actually -like- that some people I know are getting cranky about - in the high 20's the focus starts to shift to group quest/grind instead of solo questing. Hated solo questing nonstop in WAR/WoW.

 

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Chooch you rolled my faction/server. Let me know if you need anything, you can guess my character name.

 

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Amen.

Alright, I'll see if I can d/l tonight or tomorrow. I'll hit you up on aim.

 

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Thug - oh cool, and quite random! I'll /friend ya.

Guud - sweet. I hit 12 last night, Naly hit 10: http://na.aiononline.com/characters/Triniel/Nalyien

 

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You can all let me know about this several months into the game. Last thing I want is to get in a game thinking it's pwnage, only to get to the level cap and find out it's the most boring garbage on the planet (Like Warhammer). Least WoW has me entertaining a bit with Wintergrasp and crafting crap and selling the gold at a decent rate. I may return to DAOC but trying something new so early into it? Won't happen again. So keep me posted.

 

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Chooch - Maybe you can help...or at least someone can.

I moved into a new place back in august, the good news is that the house is set up to run internet connection(for cable modem) to each room. The bad news, all the lines run into the basement and are all uncapped and untouched. So I have an external nic card that connects to the network wirelessly, but it only connects locally and won't connect to the internet. Long story short, I took drastic steps last night and just moved my desktop down to the living room where the router is. Only now that I have a hardline connection, I'm still getting the same problem. It connects locally but won't connect to the internet. It gives me some 815 error (or was it 315 error), something about the error with the user name or something, which doesn't make sense to me since I have *never* come across this problem before when running a connection through a router before.

My work laptop connects no problem when i chose the network and put in the password, and the same for my roommates. Yes, I'm running vista, but at my last place I never had this problem, I just plugged in the connection and I was off and running. What gives?

 

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so you can get an ip address from your router, but you cannot actually get outside? you could check to ensure that your wireless NIC (or hardwired nic for that matter) doesn't have a static default gateway or ip address. Then check to ensure that you dont have any proxy settings on your browser. if so then it could be attempting to hit a proxy that doesnt exist before going out.

you could also go to a command prompt, try to ping the default gateway. If that works, try pinging something outside on the internet like 4.2.2.1 (its a dns server). to see if its passing at least some traffic.

 

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You ended up opposite BT, I believe.

Hopefully the game continues to be fun and interesting! I don't have the time to invest in a new mmo right now, but I'm always looking...

 

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Cool, hopefully I'll see some of those guys out in the Abyss. I don't particularly like how the 'evil' faction looks in this game (tails? really?), which is why I went with Elyos. They get shiny armor and look super sweet.

 

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No proxy settings, and I never had this issue before and I've used a lot of different connections previously. It won't let me ping anything outside of the local network and won't connect to the internet.

I've tried resetting the router and the password, but no luck, but my laptop connects (and all of my roommates laptops) np. The wireless nic card is linksys, as is the router, and i get the same issue as I do when I try to connect with a hard line. So I doubt it's the cards.

 

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@Guud - If one computer works and the other doesn't see if the TCP/IP properties are different between the two. You should find that poking around in the networking properties somewhere. Don't have Vista, so can't tell you exactly where to look. If there is a diff, set things up like the machine that works.

Edit - you just posted, so maybe you already looked there. Soz.

 

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I have a 15 chanter on Siel Server. Chooch if you guys decide you want to reroll Asmodae to play with BT it only takes 3 hours to ascend again. I did it 7 times in beta with a 2:30 being my best time with a ranger.

Dunno how well you guys remember me, but I'd be happy to play along on Triniel too, there are a few uber guilds on Elyos on Siel server also if you're interested. I'll try to find you guys when I log in later on today.

 

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Fixed it, the IP4 protocol was trying to use a specific IP address (not sure why), so I just had to reset it to automatically obtain the address. Rolled my warrior, Guud :P

 

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how did you guys get past install? I can't get the damn game to install at all.

 

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I had no trouble at all, d/l'ed from steam, installed patch, was off and running...what issues are you having?

 

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The issue that their retail disks were busted, I had to redownload the 6gb installer, all fixed now.

 

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I installed fine from retail disc... @_@

 

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how is this game? How is the level grind?

 

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The grind is there, it's been out for nearly 3 weeks and no one has capped level yet afaik (it was ~2 weeks for WAR). I've been playing for about a week and I'm level 20, but I'm not playing that many hours per day (and didnt play a few days).

The PvP from all accounts and video's I've seen looks really effin fun, and starts in their version of the frontier (The Abyss) around level 25. I was watching some videos yesterday, for instance check out this solo sorc pvp'ing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt1a3bBcp8A

About the PvE:
Level 1-18 = Solo Quest
Level 18-20 = Group Quest/Grind
Level 21-25 = Solo Quest
Level 25-28 = Group Dungeon (Training Grounds)

In the 25+ areas there are "rifts" in the PvE zones, that is, enemy players can come through the rifts and PK. So it's a little bit of a Mordred feel where you're mostly safe, but never truely safe from PvP while PvE'ing. And that is a feature I really love and I'm looking forward to some PvP in my PvE.

The Abyss also has mobs you can grind on that are worth more XP since they're in an all pve zone, so I'm going to hit that up as soon as I reach 25 too.

 

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Do you have a guild going? I created a ranger on Triniel yesterday and could use some conversation.

I just can't seem to stand melee classes anymore and it was between a sorc, spiritmaster or ranger. Healing classes didntseem to impress me that much as the dps classes. I've seen a few ranger pvp vids and they seem very balanced was wondering your take on these classes.

Oddly enough the grind feels like old daoc, which didn't put me off. And the framerate was amazing, I've be dying to see what my Geforce 280 could do.

 

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Nope me and Naly are in a guild of randoms (it got me a cloak and I was itchin for some conversation too).

Ranger is pretty powerful in the right hands it seems, but they need to kite a LOT (even in solo pve which turns people off) to be effective. Check out their forums (aionsource.com) theres lots of videos and stuff explaining how to play them well.

 

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I need a good guild!! PL ME!!!

 

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i need to stop reading forums, i can't decide on what i want to play anymore. Maybe ill just play a SM reminds me of cabbies.

 

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We have a guild of a bunch of old people for the most part, welcome to join.

 

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damn I wish I'd stop reading this thread. I really would like to wait till people know more about the end game before running out and buying it, but from the video's I've seen it sure does look great.

 

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i know i've said it before, but it reminds me of daoc in 01, very peaceful and calm leveling. And while it looks like every asian rpg the UI is well done.

 

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Throw out the invite wink

 

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I'll likely be on most of the afternoon and definitely around 8 eastern (running training grounds)I'll check my friends for you.

 

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damn I wish I'd stop reading this thread. I really would like to wait till people know more about the end game before running out and buying it, but from the video's I've seen it sure does look great.


Hah. I know what you mean, but I'd rather have to catch up in a few months if it's a great game than waste more time pveing in a flop like I did in WAR. See you in a 3 or 4 months if Aion's end game doesn't turn out like I expect.

 

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Right now theres a lot of lvl 25-30 pvp happening in the Abyss... in 3-4 months the curve is going to be all 40-50's in the Abyss so the grind will be worse to hit the entry level to pvp. sad

 

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I'll put it like this:

I played WAR at beta and release, and I've played AION since release. I think AION has been, by far, a MUCH better game than WAR. While the variety in classes is very marginal, the gameplay/mechanics/possibilities are a lot better and holds a lot more potential than I felt WAR ever did.

From the start of WAR I had a very lukewarm feel and had stated, with to much dismay of the people in OCT, had much a bland, vanilla, boring game it was. I had hoped that RvR in WAR held something to be a saving grace, but it was not to be. From watching the AION videos, the PvP and RvR looks a lot more interesting, balanced, and well done.

Time will tell.

 

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I dunno, I just have a bad lack of trust in grinding in a new game only to discover the end game is pure vomit. I went to WAR due to all the hype (as I have many other games) only to discover after leveling 4 chars to 40, that it was a horrible end game with nothing to do. I spent a good majority of my time bossing around my PL’rs to liquidate their gold, and sell off their toons, before the exp exploit mass ban and before the game died – while chatting with Gudd about that old hag he had in his guild that I would murder on sight on whatever server he was on. Once we sold out of that game, we went to WoW, which I’ve always been off and on at, and re leveled our chars to the new 80 max and honor armored all my chars. I still play that with my sister and some locals while my PL’rs do their rounds etc, but I don’t see me ever getting the intense non stop fun that DAOC once had. That feeling will never return. I’ll most likely activate DAOC and see if anything is good here, or if its so bland and this is a last leg, it won’t ever be worth playing again, while I rot in WoW. That game at least adds new flavor and content offer, and I make a good buck there. I have not even researched how to make real money on Aion or if it’s possible… I know zero about the game other then you get to be an anime char with big boobs and wings.

Guud said it best.. time will tell.. Ill wait till people I know and trust HIT the pvp area and the kinks are worked out before I even consider making a move to new areas again... I see no need to rush any more.

 

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WAR didn't let us Beta the end game, that should have been a red flag for me but it wasn't. So far I'm enjoying Aion, great graphics that run smooth even when there are a metric ton of other people around. The environment so far feels fresh, and I haven't killed one rat.

 

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Edit: I guess I should read the thread completely before asking a question. whistling

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Right now theres a lot of lvl 25-30 pvp happening in the Abyss... in 3-4 months the curve is going to be all 40-50's in the Abyss so the grind will be worse to hit the entry level to pvp. sad


Yeah I know, but really it's already too late. By the time I could level to 25-30 those players who are 25-30 will be 40+ anyway. I am assuming that like DAOC that they will add some kind of BGs later on to provide a place for lower levels to PvP where they don't always get crushed by people 20 levels higher. I'm content to continue zerg surfing in DAOC for the rest of the year and see what people say about Aion when they've been playing it at level 50 for a few months before I commit to grinding in it.

 

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Rifts = low level pvp. happy It's Mordred style, you just wouldn't be able to participate in the main frontier style pvp later on I imagine.

 

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I returned to DAOC... I had to.. I started to post some sales on random sites and mine and sold my entire reserve in less then 2 days. I am amazed how DAOC accounts are selling... I'm clueless as to why... It's just that I Don't need multiple accounts no more with everything clustered and people are just taking em left and right. I've sold more accounts in the last 48 hours than I have in the last year and sold almost all my reserve plat that I had. I honestly thought this game was dead, but it's like WoW trade channel with all the plat sales spam now etc (A tactic I have never ever done btw). I will admit, I am amazed at how many old schoolers returned and I saw last night. I imagine i'll be sticking to WoW and DAOC for quite some time, though please continue with the updates on AION. I am especially interested in how to PL, quickest way to level, and what the going rate for chars are once maxed.

 

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<sigh> I guess I will download this through Steam next week sometime. Maybe in two weeks once my 20 yr highschool reunion is done.

Nothing says depressing class reunion like starting a new MMORPG.

 

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Bored with evony - so is this game really any good? How much of a terrible time sink?

 

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It's fun, I'm enjoying it, but I can tell it's going to be a time sink. I'm only in my early 20s and it's taking me about a day/level (this is still low level). I can only imagine what 40-50 is going to be like! I suspect it will be a level every 2-6 days depending on how many hours you sink into it.

 

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Yah it's fun but a serious time investment. I'm nowhere near a powergamer anymore so I can see it taking 4-5 months to hit 50 at casual play (24 at the moment, which is probably 1/8th of the way to 50 as far as hours /played heh)

 

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Yah it's fun but a serious time investment. I'm nowhere near a powergamer anymore so I can see it taking 4-5 months to hit 50 at casual play (24 at the moment, which is probably 1/8th of the way to 50 as far as hours /played heh)


Ugh. That definitely makes me want to wait and be sure the end game is worth all that pveing. Plus I'm sure they'll add more quests and do other stuff that will make pve not as harsh as time goes on.

 

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Can anyone elaborate on the economy like ways to level faster with bots etc? And income gathering, sales etc?

 

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Meddyck they jacked quest XP WAY up on the Korean Test server. Unfortunately that means it has to go K-Test -> K-Live -> US Test -> US Live. Or something like that. So it could be a bit heh.

Lexi I dunno how much multiboxing will help you. I've seen people botting (as in, totally afk letting a memory reader / macro program run your character for you) running two players but that seems to be the max people do that kind of stuff with.

25+ seems to be mostly a group grinding game rather than solo questing. Group dynamics are: pull, mez 1-2, assist the mobs down 1-by-1. There is very limited AE in the game, no caster AE/PBAE like DAoC/WAR/WoW so something like 4 sorcs + healer would get raped in pve versus elites. So unless you can effectively bot and play the holy trinity of caster/tank/healer (which would be very difficult at the speed you hit keys in Aion) I don't see how you could bot anything harder than normal mobs, which would be slow and shitty xp with 3+ people in a party.

On the plus side getting characters to 50 is so ridiculously hard in this game I can see them selling on EBay for quite a bit of money.

 

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Testing like that makes me irate because people need to realise that US people have a different time frame on games that Koreans do. My asian pals that handle the other half of our PL team are on way more then I am, I go to bed, they are up spamming my QQ.exe, I wake up.. boom there they are still taking shifts so they can handle WoW and DAOC on a complete 24 hour cycle. Americans just do not play at the same pace as asians. Asians have no souls remember?

Yeah I hear ya chooch... I might in December park DAOC for a month or two, get Aion, and just level and sell a few chars. That's what I did in Warhammer and they sold like hot cakes. Capped a few chars in level, and placed em to sell. I do the same in WoW..

In comparrison... any thoughts on WoW time to 80 versus Aion to 50?

In DAOC I've gotten to the point where I can nail a char to 50 in about 4 hours if I focus. But whoopty doo... DAOC level 50 add ons I just do for like $10 and that's mere pennies compared to WoW and I imagine Aion. It seems this game is a pure solo leveling game, meet friends, level to cap.. and bye bye sell kinda thing.

Kinda like FF Online.

Ironically.. I find myself making more money in WoW just pvp'ing peoples accounts up with battleground badges heh.

 

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its look like it takes about 30 days to go from 1-50 using a powerleveling service. I started 8 days ago and I'm level 24. It is definitely slowing down now, but 25 is when all the rvr happens so it isnt that bad. As for botting i see it all over the place, some of it is noticeable but i don't think anything is done about it.


BTW average powerleveling prices

1-30 $90
30-40 $130
40-50 $400
1-50 $620



Hypothetically and I'm not 100% sure on this since i don't know how xp is affected with low people in group, but the best powerleveling combo would be 1 sorc, 1 sm, and lowbies. I have seen in a few videos solo SM's grinding out high level elites due to their awesome cc abilities. Extra sorc would be for more damage, as along as he can keep from pulling aggro. And SM's get a summon groupmate ability i hear.

 

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Thanks Arc, I may try a round of this game to see how fast I can level and sell some chars each time I max it out. If so, I'll def hit some of you up for a /gu invite. I'll just level a char - sell it, and rinse and repeat.

I'm making a KILLING in WOW atm and people still buy daoc chars fast.

 

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I'm curious what you mean by a 'killing'. How does the $/hour play out? 5 bucks an hour? 10?

 

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This week in WoW I had a good week, about $845 I think. It took me perhaps a 3 weeks to level the accounts, chars, and farm the gold. So it's hard to say really based on hour etc... since I play and level my personal stuff at the same time. So I just say it's like having an extra paycheck by playing a game for me in normal time.

As for DAOC... well it's hard to judge that because I had a lot of left over accounts I no longer needed and plat saved up. So lets say it takes me about 5 hours on leisure to level a char to 50... and I make in that 5 hour time with salvaging and farming products about 100 plat... I sell the DAOC chars for avg.. $15 and 100 plat I let go often for $30 so thats $45 in 5 hours... but in that time I also get offers to buy bulk plat, or sell entire accounts that I let leech at the same time.. so hard to judge that in the game of DAOC based on my personal leisure I make.

Thats why I think of it like an extra pay check cuz I don't consider it work or per hour invested. It's rewarding cuz of my personal accounts too.. example.. in WOW... more gold / more items etc I can buy... I also bg people badges for money, or level their crafts / secondaries if need be.. in daoc i use my personal gold to buy bp items if i want or buy mls... so again.. hard to judge..

either way.. i make nice money enjoying myself playing games. So yeah.. I'm doing great - especially this month..

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You gotta teach me Lexi, how to make money playing games. Take me as your apprentice, I deal in absolute, just like computers do!

 

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Depends on what game you want to focus in. It can be like daoc using legal KVM switches, or going ghetto and just macro'ing a bunch of chars to do the same thing (which often get you busted), so it's best to buy a good KVM switch and use 1 computer as your master. WoW, isn't so easy as there is really no focus pl'ing in that game... a good pl'r in WoW will just know which quests to go to etc to make it faster. My sister can level a WoW char within 3 days if she grinds it out with time to sleep and turns them around for anywhere from $75 to $150 for a quick sale. Most of my money is doing bg's for lazy people... or honor grinding for people. DAOC is mostly a who knows who game and word of mouth since they hit spammers really fast. Warhammer was easy with basic macro programs or focus attacking each target, so it all depends on how you want to do it or what game you are after. I prefer daoc... it's relaxing... fun... and people always are looking for plat and are always to lazy to level on their own. Think I got Rackir to 50 faster then anyone else on his skald. I know nothing about Aion tho my friends are starting there this week. I'll most likely go in a few weeks.

 

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I just bought Aion. Is there any class that can mass kill mobs quickly? Sorceror or Gladiator or another class that can get Kinah fast?

 

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There is almost nothing in the way of AE in the game so no, there isn't a mass-mob killer. DPS classes kill fast but have a good amt of downtime, templar/chanter/cleric kills slow but almost 0 downtime. Pick your poison.

 

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Hmmm...I might give templar a go.

 

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Good call. Also, 25+ seems to be a mostly group-grind game so all that stuff about who solos the best doesn't matter *quite* as much anymore, although there are a bunch of solo quests too.

Templars are wanted in every single group, so they're a pretty good pick. Someday I'm going to try one as an alt.

 

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Managed to install the game after several download attempts...I'm on Moongster, send me an invite please...

 

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Will do, /who doesn't work in this game. so i'll just send out random invites though-out the day.

 

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/who does work...

 

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I need some beta testers for my Aion app if anyone minds helping out. This is a AIR app so you need to have install Adobe Air.

Aionizer - yea the name sucks but what else would u call it.

General function :
Search for character name and it will return the character's level, class, and stats. This will only work on characters from Triniel server at the moment, that is the next change I will be making. Also you need to click on the class icon in result window to bring up the character stats.



email me at aionizer@filipearaujo.com with comments and suggestions

 

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How is your app easier than alt tabbing and searching on na.aiononline.com?

 

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this runs on top on game window, but requires the game to be fun on windowed fullscreen. I'm also planning on implementing the rest of the character data, rift points and skills.

Alot easier to use in pvp.

I wanted it to scan memory and search for your target, but thats against TOS.

 

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Do they have a free trial or buddy key for this game yet?

 

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Don't think so.

 

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I wanna hear some pvp info now that you all should be up there by now... then i can decide if i want to jump in or not.

 

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PvP is mostly zerg action, there's not a whole lot of 6vs6 that I've seen. There's always ganking to be had, I found that if I go kill low level mobs in the PvP zone, people will jump me, and I own them, it's pretty fun.

 

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Leveling is VERY slow.

 

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It's the part I hate most.

I do see farmers and bots with funky names grinding mobs, though there are also legitimate players around.

 

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I got to 41 and quit 2 weeks ago on a sorc .. it's really a grind and with the lack of policing of bots anyone using them owns you in pvp. Every level difference is like 10% less chance to hit.. if you hit 10% less damage...10% worse equipement and so on. By the end you fight a guy one level higher and even with the jump it's dicey. The experiance required for each additional level past 40ish is a steep curve. By my estimates it took me 5 weeks to 41 and will take me another 10-13 weeks to 50.

The high game is dependant on pots and scrolls so you will forever need to grind gold or ingrediants to make/buy them and be competitive. The realm ranks are based mostly on who plays the most time. You rank and derank and the highest ranks gives you actual additional abilities and access to super armor. This game is a powerleveler's/unemployed person's dream.

I'm getting old.. I couldnt do it worried

 

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LancelotOCT posted:
I'm getting old.. I couldnt do it worried


LOL. Me, too. I couldn't even bring myself to try Aion, because it looked like what you described, and I just don't have the time or patience these days.

 

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Bluejaye_Wayfarer posted:
LancelotOCT posted:
I'm getting old.. I couldnt do it worried


LOL. Me, too. I couldn't even bring myself to try Aion, because it looked like what you described, and I just don't have the time or patience these days.




Yeah I have to say I called it right on Aion as well and passed on it. Next MMO please....

 

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you can pve realm ranks in this game too. Im struggling to hang on honestly.

 

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And this is why I decided to wait until I jump into a game again.

I'll stay in WoW & DAoC for now.

I have a few friends in Aion and they aren't making that much off of it. The market is flooded there.

 

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Expansion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PAM0wr7cZ8&feature=popt14us01

 

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Graphics are nice and all, but the gameplay gets boring real fast for me.

Trailer looks nice though.

 

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ive only read a few posts on the 1st page but here is my review of Aion

Aion is your traditional korean grind grind grind grind grind fest

post 50 is grind grind grind grind grind

the pvp theory is great, but the actual system needs major refinement. it could be as good as DAoC, but only if they change the timers on certain things.

right now forts, like keeps in daoc, are only attackable in the abyss (the flight combat area, where only ranged win, because of broken melee flight mechanics) on the weekends for 2 hrs at a time, if no one shows up to attack, then they go back to unattackable after 35 mins. they need to modify the timers. imo make it every day or every other day attackable every 3-5 hrs or just go DAoC and make it attackable all the time.

as chooch mentioned there are rifts for ground pvp in the enemy pve territories, which is great and all, except for the fact that the rifts have lvl caps. so of the two possible areas to rift to, you can only go to one area until 45, and at 45 only thru 1 rift, and the other area till 50 but only thru two rifts, there are 7 rifts per "zone". they need to take out the lvl caps, because it is retarded.

the pvp rewards are armor/weapons and stigmas (somewhat like RAs but not really) the armor and weapons are better than the pve counterparts only to the extent that they have more slots for socketting +stat gems. 6 instead of 4. even the pvp gear is grindy to get because the pvp for AP (rps) is spotty. the good gear takes medals which can only be obtained through fortress attacks and defense. and as i said before its only on the weekends... however they are tradable/sellable

there is a 3rd "realm" of npcs that attack the forts and take them over, but they are currently ez modeish and there arent enough to combat the defenders of a well defended fort.

pve is decent aside from the grind, the instanced dungeons are fun and the story line is pretty good.

the penalty for death is extremely harsh in pve. not only do you lose xp, but you have the option to buy it back through soul healing which is the biggest waste of money ever. its extremely expensive. and the suggestion is to never buy back your xp.

drop rate is the worst ive seen in any game ever. period. its horrible.

overall rating 7/10

 

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My asian pals love it.
My sister loves it mainly because she gets a free ride with them.

I tried it for like 1 day and hated it.

I'm waiting for Star Trek Online... I know it sounds lame... but the United Federation of Lexi kinda appeals to me and I wanna blow your noobish ships out of my galactic empire!

ENGAGE!

 

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Beam me up!

 

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How does Aion earn as high a grade as 7/10 based on that review? lol

I'm waiting to see some player reviews of Star Trek Online when the NDA is lifted. It's hard for me to tell at this point whether it's a game I'd find at all fun, so I'll be deciding whether to play or not heavily based on what other players say about it. (It was very obvious to me Aion wasn't going to be a game I'd like prior to release.)

 

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7/10 because its not wow

 

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i got to 24 in Aion and quit.... sucked. grinding is not fun. Star Wars KOTOR online looks to be the next good one hopefully. anything that can hold my interest for more than a month would be nice.

 

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