Saloben_ign posted:

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removing log out on death does only one thing. It makes it so the people who are not ucming will have to reform fellows all the time. It does absolutely nothing to the person who was ucm'ing.

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spalthi posted:

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While the changes for logging out on comps, arrows, etc. aren't a big deal, I think it's a bit overreaching to prohibit people from running other plug-ins that somebody feels they need, regardless of the purpose of the plug-in. But, it is your baby...

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Saloben_ign posted:

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using disallowed plugins.. coming from the guy with 88 million post :P
I don't think ign allows bots to increase post numbers.

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vn_quuz posted:

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Para - The detect and log on unfriendly is still a good thing for white servers also. Say Im macroing but im still in same room watching a movie and im in a quest dungeon if i have that feature on i log off when somone is doing the quest so i dont ruin it for them. I thought thats why the plugin was put there in the first place?

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Didikillit posted:

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Take a fellow with two people- you get 75% of the xp regardless of whether the other player is standing next to you, or at the other side of Dereth.<<

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Gones_Mage posted:

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IF Im running AC Tool on a machine so I can run a tinkerbot script for people I cannot use lt on that same machine?

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kinslayer271 posted:

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Log on detecting people should have been left in. I could careless about the other ones. It saves your butt on DT when your at the keys.

But these guys don't understand that so whatever.

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k3ny posted:

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Without saying its against the ToS explain how detering UCMing will help the game?

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Fonoi posted:

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So let me understand this, you have never left your pc while LT was on and assisting you to hunt?

No bathroom breaks, no fixing a snack etc?

Because if you have, which you definatly have, you have UCM'ed.

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Paraduck posted:

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This is not a way for us to shed our responsibilities for maintaining LT. If we wanted to stop doing so, I imagine that we'd find someone else to take over. We believe that this is the best course for the plugin, and we think that the changes will benefit AC.

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XavierVAT posted:

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I'm pretty sure my monarch runs 2 clients on one computer... one with ACTool running a tinker bot, and one with his toon hunting sometimes. If he uses LTX to hunt on a second client on the same machine, will this cause LTX not to function?

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Furby_Grenade posted:

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If you thought this would "benefit" the community perhaps you should have done the research and maybe asked the "community" first, yes? Seems like you don't know the community as well as you thought you did.

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Furby_Grenade posted:

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People have to download it for multiple computers, I almost guarantee you over 2,000 downloads didnt come from unique users.

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Furby_Grenade posted:

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just one question, did you legitimately get yourself to 275 while remaining at the keyboard the entire time?

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Fair_Weather posted:

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As an active UCM'er on DT, I don't really see the big deal.

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Furby_Grenade posted:

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uhhh no.

Thing is, since he is 275 he is just thinking about himself and his own well-being and now that he is max level he doesn't want anyone else to get there as easy as he did.

That's called being selfish, and i find it disgusting.

It's like hiding in Blood on Darktide to level up to 275, then when you're at 275 you join another guild and start bashing blood and talking trash about them all the time.

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Fair_Weather posted:

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He hasn't even done anything to stop UCMing at all with these moves. On white worlds, you get 5 vit and sit at your lifestone. Big deal. On DT you get 5 vit, then sit at the ls until you detect a PK, and logoff. The only even marginal change is the components issue, and with the absurd amount of burden characters can handle, this will come up about once every 16 hours? If you aren't even checking in that often, it is still only 5 vit and a body you can run and grab when you get back. 5 vitae instead of just logging off in no way ruins the game.

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Crelic_MT posted:

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Would it help to say we're discussing ways to modify some of these changes to try to find a middle-ground here? I mean, nothing we do here is set in stone.

Though, the flying accusations and personal attacks are getting old and isn't really helping to turn our discussion around either.

C

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Crelic_MT posted:

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Your beef is with Turbine, not us.
http://ac.turbinegames.com/

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Crelic_MT posted:

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And you really think the discussion would be any different than it is now? I don't think anything would've been different... no different than asking if everyone wants admin alarm removed. It would've resulted in a flamefest, with us being the bad guys, blahblahblah.

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Crelic_MT posted:

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I said somewhere else before... most people here don't care about Turbine or the community as a whole, they only care about themselves. If what we change doesn't help, improve, or give an advantage to themselves as an individual, then they're going to be loud mouthed and fight it til they're blue in the face.

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Crelic_MT posted:

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What "everyone" really wants is an unrestricted plugin that will let them macro and alert to their hearts content. At that point, Turbine would have to enforce the rules on their own (which "Everyone" knows doesn't happen and would get away with it), and I'd assume Decal would ban it immediately.

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Crelic_MT posted:

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So what's the point here? It's more of a risk to UCM, that's our point. What's your's? I'm trying to understand here
C

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Furby_Grenade posted:

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Atleast the community would respect you. It was fine before this, now you made a mistake and you still have time to redeem yourself.

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Furby_Grenade posted:

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How does implementing this solve anything, honestly? Turbine chose to make UCM'ing illegal, and they knew they would be fighting a never-ending war.

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Furby_Grenade posted:

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Things were fine before you made this little update, why not uphold the status quo? Did you really need the attention that bad?

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Furby_Grenade posted:

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Not really, you're just making us go out of our way and find alternative ways to do what we were doing before this patch. The things that were implemented were definitely unnecessary

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Shiba-X posted:

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You didnt read the thread that much did you? cause you would have seen it..

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k3ny posted:

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k3ny posted:

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Without saying its against the ToS explain how detering UCMing will help the game?

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