Paraduck
Title: quantum mechanic
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LifeTankXI 11.7.0.2 Released! (REQUIRED UPDATE!)
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Due to authorization fixes, this is a REQUIRED update.
A new version of LifeTank has been released! Here are the changes:
Version 11.7.0.2
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- Option to boost looting priority.
- Navigation should work better.
- Switching characters should be more reliable.
- Authorization fix for non-English versions of Windows.
- Fellowship helper should be more reliable and faster.
- No more error message spam on 64-bit Windows XP.
- LT now recognizes the new Pyreal stack size of 25,000.
Get it here!
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Snuffleupagus_DT
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Im scared
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Zoki
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Suini-Tanis
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well i'm not sure if its going to be changed....but you actually DON'T need to update(i will i just hadn't updated before i logged in)
Auth server 1 was down, auth server 3 said i needed an update, but auth server 2 let me through *shrug*
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Suini III - BM
A la Carte - Trade mule turned nub
Smashem - Axer in training
The Salvage Stop - really its just a bunch of salvage
"its ok.....in the end we all just tie..."
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Crelic_MT
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Incorrect. This is a forced update. The old versions will be dead and unusable, for 2 reasons: We told the auth server not to allow a lower version, and the lower versions won't talk to the updated auth server anyway, because of a slight change we made.
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Don't blink, Don't even blink
Blink and you're dead
They are fast, faster than you can believe
Don't turn your back, don't look away
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Paraduck
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C'relic is correct -- it's a forced upgrade. The only version that can even communicate with the severs is the "11.7.0.1 Auth Fix" version, which has been disabled. I just re-verified that all previous versions no longer work.
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Thanks for all your hard work!
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For all of you running Vista it is now compatible!!! 
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Thanks guys... 
All is good. Anyone reading make sure you totally uninstall old version or problems will come.
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Still getting a few errors when trying to run it (have vista  ) first is:
[LTxi] QLOx0uu=v_G]f0m~`MrTi“mwX IUBzn…8*ÿ?Dsx<vL†AOökw(b\g?u?n-~rh]e:>wuiDjIÿc€+}rVaR_DxÅ /}`bKNsv a_k`0?x†n~J1ZXoxevGul†opþ ;^JQ=>zcŽBaDû]tŽ…V1;ZI)†pemLc;wÆ’prQZ]a8Æ’0
This happens whenever i try to run macro.
Next is similar to the division by 0 one.
[LTxi] [Engine] ACEvents.OnLocalChat - Component 'mswinsck.ocx' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid
Did a full remove of older versions heres my export
Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.0
type, enabled, name, version, clsid
Plugins, 1, Alinco, 1.4.9.8, {4338186E-7AE8-4B9E-985D-98D692036EA8}
Plugins, 0, GoArrow, 1.2.0.1, {46BBF551-8578-4A59-B2FB-B5D9F4C719FA}
Plugins, 0, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.0, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 0, Alinco Buffs, 1.5.1.1, {58A8364F-99D7-4FE5-BAE9-D0CBF0329055}
Plugins, 1, LifeTank XI, 11.7.0.2, {910C0F8E-827A-4E35-A980-50D57D0B1296}
Plugins, 1, MiniMap, 1.0.0.0, {92C09018-E815-4C22-987B-8E553154146E}
Plugins, 1, PKHunter 2, 2.0.0.3, {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
Plugins, 0, SSSort, 2.2.0.0, {B9765335-51EC-4C24-AE39-D6E1BA6AE4AD}
Plugins, 0, Target Info, 3.1.0.1, {BF8C22F4-B172-4922-B3D4-26E6985E87AC}
Plugins, 1, Radar Add-on, 1.1.0.0, {CA23F8D7-7E71-423A-A928-BC5CDD8FBD96}
Plugins, 0, The Deep, 2.7.0.20, {E72999D8-9218-4FB8-A978-DF4320E64AF1}
Network Filters, 0, ACDC Core Filter, 7.2.2.0, {2DB1B641-4039-4D69-831A-79915EC266CE}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.0, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Alinco Filter, 1.4.2.1, {375A7C84-B4FD-49BB-B63D-15CCC004E979}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.0, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.0, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.0, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.0, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.0, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Network Filters, 1, Darkside Filter, 11.7.0.2, {F93FD48F-BA68-4BF5-A7B3-7908D1634331}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.0, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.0, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.0, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.0, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.0, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.0, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}
Operating System:
Home Edition (Build 6000)
[Protected Storage Service] : Manual
Decal Settings
[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\Program Files\Turbine\Asheron's Call - Throne of Destiny\
[Launcher App] : ACDCClient.exe
[Update URL] : http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 24536 bytes, Version 0.0.11.2873
[messages.xml] : 53271 bytes, Version 2006.08.22.1
[Video Memory] : 395790336
D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)
---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.
.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed
C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.97.97)
[atl70.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9064.0)
[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed
[atl71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)
[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.90.1002.0)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.20.9841.0)
---Video Device Information---
[Device] : NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01D1&SUBSYS_04051028&REV_A1
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{41C37778-6A28-4AF6-ADE0-40E4A5E27F3A}\0000
[Manufacturer] : NVIDIA
[ChipType] : GeForce 7300 LE
[DACType] : Integrated RAMDAC
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 128 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 128 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1280
[DisplayHeight] : 1024
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 60
[MonitorName] : Generic PnP Monitor
[MonitorMaxRes] :
[DriverName] : nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll
[DriverVersion] : 7.15.0011.0065
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 2/10/2007 10:48:00
[DriverDateLocal] : 2/10/2007 10:48:00 AM
[DriverSize] : 4644864
[MiniVdd] : n/a
[MiniVddDateEng] : n/a
[MiniVddDateLocal] : n/a
[MiniVddSize] : 0
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
[Beta] : No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
[Identifier] : {D7B71E3E-4291-11CF-D973-0E2401C2CA35}
[DDIVer] : 9
[DDIVerEng] : 9Ex
[DDIVerLocal] : 9Ex
[iAdapter] : 0
[VendorID] : 0x10DE
[DeviceID] : 0x01D1
[SubSystemID] : 0x04051028
[RevisionID] : 0x00A1
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes
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vn_belce
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Why has reporting xp per hour been removed?
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Belce
What weapons am I using?
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Paraduck
Title: quantum mechanic
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Whoops, good catch. Edit: Redownload from the same link if you want XP/Comps reporting.
Also, LT is not Vista compatible. Don't expect it to work on Vista for a while. Personally, I will not be upgrading for at least a few months.
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We are like dwarfs sitting on the shoulders of giants. We see more and things that are more distant than they did,
not because our sight is superior or because we are taller than they, but because they raise us up and their
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Paraduck
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Ok, I just uploaded a quick fix for that. Same link.
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Strikefast
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I love my Vista.
And bump
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The Original "Black Sheep Squad" – Formed 2000
Everyone else is just pretending.
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I wonder why it's so "required! win win!!11"
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Crelic_MT
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If it's so important: The auth server was moved to another URL (lifetankxi.com) whereas the old version still use the subdomain (lifetank.fissionweb.net). I just wanted it off the subdomain.
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Don't blink, Don't even blink
Blink and you're dead
They are fast, faster than you can believe
Don't turn your back, don't look away
and don't blink.
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Paraduck
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And the other servers don't work because of updates related to the support for non English operating systems. The 11.7.0.1 "Authfix" version hit different code.
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A suggestion , iwould like a kill per hour and total number of kills statistic.
Since i am German , i can't have to much statistics :P
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Naia Ra-Sal lvl 262 Warlord of Dereth
Vainda Ra-Sal lvl 275 Shellfish Hater
Xavia Ra-Sal lvl 250
Vaindas Oil Slave Max Speced Armor Tink , Max speced Weapon Tink
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[LTxi] [Engine] PhatLoot.StartSell - Object doesn't support this property or method
I get this when I try to Buy/Sell peas for MMDs. I saw this error in the last version as well.
Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.0
type, enabled, name, version, clsid
Plugins, 1, Mob Tracker, 1.1.0.0, {0C212D60-8708-4043-A09B-E6C0387A0A8D}
Plugins, 0, AC Tool Companion, 5.4.0.64, {12132875-071F-4800-86C1-142F128DBE48}
Plugins, 1, Quack, 1.7.0.0, {1EB3CCA3-001A-423A-9559-75A29E17C387}
Plugins, 0, TreeStats 2, 0.1.6.3, {9847B2B7-C7C7-42BA-9361-021D01715E8F}
Plugins, 1, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.0, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 1, Reloader, 1.0.1.3, {75F00DC9-45F1-40DD-B286-FED762E91312}
Plugins, 1, Tings, 1.0.0.38, {864F2945-A564-4C8D-A36F-0CAF267F7612}
Plugins, 1, HWAC_Stats.dll, 1.3.0.0, {1D17D4A2-D62C-46B5-881E-A06EEF47D7DF}
Plugins, 1, Alinco, 1.4.9.7, {4338186E-7AE8-4B9E-985D-98D692036EA8}
Plugins, 1, LifeTank XI, 11.7.0.2, {910C0F8E-827A-4E35-A980-50D57D0B1296}
Plugins, 1, Quest Timer, 2.4.0.2, {BB51962C-2EEE-4E67-A032-EEC1F11E66C8}
Plugins, 1, Target Info, 3.1.0.1, {BF8C22F4-B172-4922-B3D4-26E6985E87AC}
Plugins, 1, The Deep, 2.7.0.20, {E72999D8-9218-4FB8-A978-DF4320E64AF1}
Plugins, 1, Virindi Follower, 0.0.0.4, {F99EC4CF-2C9B-4A8A-84A5-BAA7222F8A07}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.0, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, ACDC Core Filter, 7.2.2.0, {2DB1B641-4039-4D69-831A-79915EC266CE}
Network Filters, 1, Alinco Filter, 1.4.2.0, {375A7C84-B4FD-49BB-B63D-15CCC004E979}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.0, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.0, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.0, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.0, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.0, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Network Filters, 1, Darkside Filter, 11.7.0.2, {F93FD48F-BA68-4BF5-A7B3-7908D1634331}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.0, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.0, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.0, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.0, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.0, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.0, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
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I've noticed the emergency message spam is much worse now. Is there a way to filter out these messages?
Example:
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Hi All =). The new LT works as well as the old LT for me, except one tiny problem... IRC remote commands, not working properly. I am unable to issue #cmdmacro takecontrol [Password]
It will not connect. It just sends the text to/from the Irc channel.
Any help would greatly be appreciated.
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IRC remote control commands and admin detection are no longer features of LifeTank -- they haven't been since we took it over and released 11.7.0.0.
I'll look into the vendor bug and message spam.
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Thanks Paraduck. The one I posted was actually a mild one. Here was a bad one I just got:
17:18:05 Olthoi Ripper blisters your hand for 7 points of acid damage!
17:18:05 [LTxi] Emergency Stamina To Health Self 3
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You don't need to keep posting the spam. It makes this thread very hard to read. Simply one line of what's spamming is sufficient.
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seems helpful to know that it does it so many times in one second
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OK, new build is up (same link) with the following changes:
- Buy/Sell will no longer error out in some situations.
- If LT is started before a response from the auth server is received, gibberish will no longer be printed to the screen.
- Emergency Spell Cast message removed. If you're at the keyboard, it should be clear what's going on.
This is likely the last update before the next "big", release unless something major is found.
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edit: not worth saying.
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Thank You for the quick reply. The IRC commands worked for me as of the last release I had which ended in .1. Hmmm. I am sad to see them go, as I had certain things that a trade/MP bot would say and do via IRc and my Allegiance Channel... Sad to see them go.
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nm didn't read a word in the sentence and it changed the meaning a lot.
I'll test this out late night tonight or tommorow.
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Posted on the Official LT Forums by ico
11.7.0.2 ignores irc commands Reply with quote
I was using 11.7.0.1 with irc without any problem.
Now when I upgraded to 11.7.0.2 to fix auth problem I lost irc.
Irc connect is working and I see LTxi_charname joining irc channel I specified.
/i test command from macro is working.
Report Comps works.
Report Xp/Hour works.
But there is no reply to channel commands:
#cmdmacro report
#cmdmacro comps
no reply to PM command:
#cmdmacro takecontrol password
Pretty much the same as me.
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It sells the peas now but doesn't seem to be splitting the stacks properly or it tries to add the whole stack to the vendor at once.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Now it's working fine on another toon, hehe. 
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I cannot move the HUD's it is unlocked but I cant find the spot that will let me drag them and they are all piled on top of each other 
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Since the update my char's don't loot properly, or at least how they did prior to updating.
I've been getting a good bit of these error messages when LT tries to loot. It will ID an object but then close the corpse without picking it up.
20:28:12 [LTxi] WARNING : [Engine] clsLoot.RunState[Searching Corpse] - Secure Timer expired : exiting state.
20:28:23 [LTxi] Looting Mahogany Lightning Nabut [Work: 6] [Burden: 435 - Ratio: 18.3563218390805 ]
20:28:28 [LTxi] [Engine] clsMacroChangeCM.m_tmrSecure_OnTimeout : secure change combat timer expired.
It would do this occasionally before but it has gotten quite a bit worse.
Thanx for what you do.
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11.7.0.2 ignores irc commands Reply with quote
I was using 11.7.0.1 with irc without any problem.
Now when I upgraded to 11.7.0.2 to fix auth problem I lost irc.
Paraduck posted:
IRC remote control commands and admin detection are no longer features of LifeTank -- they haven't been since we took it over and released 11.7.0.0.
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The one I had that worked with Irc Installed as Revision # from .msi File :{642BF531-FDFD-4035-A068-E277924D57D4} And from the Readme file :
Type: Alpha
Version : 11.7.0.1
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IRC #Cmdmacro takecontrol password WORKED fine. and worked until this morning whe I was foced to update to 11.7.0.2.
Is there a way to run both versions of LT together? (So I can have IRC functionality by using 11.7.0.1, and Looting/buffing Functionality of 11.7.0.2)
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Strange that it worked in 11.7.0.1. I did some cleanup of the IRC code (not mentioned) in 11.7.0.2, which may have corrected this. Regardless, it's working as we've always intended it to be.
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TheMasterKato posted:
I cannot move the HUD's it is unlocked but I cant find the spot that will let me drag them and they are all piled on top of each other
It should be the top left corner of each section (green text.)
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Then you have answered my question. Thank you.
And keep up the good work.
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Het-chu posted:
It sells the peas now but doesn't seem to be splitting the stacks properly or it tries to add the whole stack to the vendor at once.
From my experience, all Decal plugins with stack management features do this. I'm not sure if it's a Decal problem or some common coding problem, but I've never seen stacking work reliably since ToD. When I get a chance, I'll look in to it more, but it's pretty low on my list of things to do.
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sheriffwmson posted:
Since the update my char's don't loot properly, or at least how they did prior to updating.
Do you use any navigation routes? Also, what's your looting range set at, and did you boost looting priority?
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Hmm. I guess I misunderstood everyone on the IRC thing.
*shrug*
Sorry bout that =P
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No problem at all, i'm not sure what happened but it seems to be okay at the moment and had always worked in the past.
I appreciate all the work you guys put in, thanks again.
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i don't run LTx so i don't know, asking for a few that don't come here.
they are under the impression that now Ltx will not autoloot unless the autocombat macro is turned on?
if that is wrong how is it set to autoloot outside of autocombat.
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Meh, i NEVER got it to Autoloot without combat macro on....you can set the macro to Not shoot war, in which case it will buff/heal you when you take damage but you will be casting wars(not sure it works with melee/bow) but it has to be on to loot.
Another thing IRC commands aren't working(they did in 11.7.0.1) but also /tell commands arent working...just a bit of a pain when you're trying to restock a buddy and can't tell how many comps he has...to many and he dies from burden+olthoi.....
Also on that note, i was thinking when you report comp status, you could put in burden% and say something like, I can hold X Prismatic tapers before becoming burdened.
cause honestly its always a guessing game with me how many tapers i can buy(i know it pretty well but still...) and i thought that would be a nice little function.... *shrug* thanks for keepin LT up and runnin
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Well, see.. that situation there would imply your buddy is unattended and is kinda going against our wishes in using the plugin. If he was there, he could tell you how much burden he has and how many tapers he needs.
The whole report thing though, Para accidentally killed in the initial release. If you clear your temp files and redownload from the same link on our site, that was fixed along with a few other tid bit things.
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I think killing remote irc commands support is step in wrong direction.
It will efectively change all ACM players to UCM.
Here is why:
You can't change mentality of macroers. If they macro for years they will not go back and play manually.
But there is ACM and there is UCM and I hope there are still people who differs between them and recognize
UCM as much bigger bad.
Remote IRC commands was reward to all "good" macroers to use ACM.
You could setup alarms (uber rare drop, macro death, full inventory, somebody contact you, somebody post something interesting in any chat channel, somebody left your fellowship, somebody stole leadership of fellow and join his mules, out of comps, XP/hour is poor,...) and your irc client could inform you about such events.
Of course you have to be around computer to hear these alarms.
And there is a lot of people who prefered ACM with excellent XP/hour + loot uber rares then UCM with danger of macroing with some dead guys at LS and no rares.
Now when you killed this reward there is no point to ACM. Seriously why should any macroer run ACM ?
You can't setup any alarm. There is no difference between ACM and UCM and there is no reward for beeing "good" boy.
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I fail to see how IRC remote control, stats, etc. is a reward for ACMing. If you're ACM, you should be able to see these things from your client anyway. If you can't see all of this information without IRC, you're UCM and not ACM.
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Uh, what? I believe you got the terms UCM and ACM mixed up there.
If you need an IRC client to tell you your stats, then you aren't at your computer. 
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I think he means sitting at the computer but not with AC open. In that situation, IRC allows for more customized alerts.
Additionally, I usually post to bait you guys about things that I disagree with, however I'm genuinely interested in why IRC remote control was removed? You haven't been able to remotely pass an envoy test using LT in over 4 years.
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IMO it was worthless and should've been taken out long time ago. It's been nothing but buggy for me. When I did use it, was only to chat with people on IRC while still IG.
But, this was Para's idea, so ask him =P
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IRC is still in LT, you just can't use any remote controls. This should have been the case from 11.7.0.1, but apparently there was a bug that was still letting people do this and it didn't get fixed until the IRC code was cleaned up in this latest release.
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Thus my question, why?
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Your question has already been answered in the multitude of posts on this subject. Read them over again if you still have questions. The answer is there, and I'm tired of repeating it.
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<<IRC remote control commands and admin detection are no longer features of LifeTank -- they haven't been since we took it over and released 11.7.0.0. >>
<<Strange that it worked in 11.7.0.1. I did some cleanup of the IRC code (not mentioned) in 11.7.0.2, which may have corrected this. Regardless, it's working as we've always intended it to be.>>
It does not explain why anywhere. Just that you "decided" or "intended". If you don't even know why, just say so.
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It seems to me this is classic "the road to hell is paved with good intensions" case.
I understand you want to fight UCM but your actions are doing exactly opposite.
I will explain later why but first about ACM/UCM.
Attended means at the keyboard right ?
But even with your fingers on keyboard you can be watching some fascinating TV scene which gets your attention.
Or you can have alt-tabbed client...
Or you can have more computers around you...
and many many more cases when you're at keyboard but CAN'T react.
Macroers are a bit more progressive people and there were some evolution in meaning of words ACM/UCM :-)
ACM means you can react if you hear alarm. Because you're around...
For example if somebody come to your spot and ask you something. You can react...
UCMers can't.
Yes some of them have loud-speakers near their heads can wake up and react but nobody would do it.
Not because somebody came at their spot.
Do you understand where is the line ?
ACMers are "good" guys, because they can response to others asking about spot about room in fellow can move to
other spot...
UCMers aren't.
Because they are in work, in school, sleeping...
When you decided to remove admin alarms, only change was that UCMers just switched off their loud-speakers.
But they had only admin alarms set to wake them up so no big deal for others.
I bet in that moment many strictly ACMers gave it thought if it's still worth to ACM when there aren't admin alarms.
You know if there is exactly same risk to be cought while you're ACMing as while you're UCMing why not UCM 24/7 ?
And yes there is difference (at least was). There is still worth to be ACM.
You can hear (other than admin) alarms and pick up uber rare,
save your died char, solve out of comps problem, response to fellow newcomers,
check if XP/hour isn't too low (something is wrong sign)...
ACMers have a lot of reasons why stay close to computers and take advantage of it.
Unfortunately all of them are tied to irc commands.
Now you completely killed all of these reasons.
There is no difference between ACM and UCM, because ACMers can't react to anything if there is no irc alarm.
ACMing and UCMing have now same risk and even same (dis)advantages.
It would be stupid for any ACM to not start UCMing.
just my 2 cents...
and remmember... it's paved with good intensions...
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the difference between ACM and UCM is NOT an alarm. Just because you hear an alarm and run to your computer does NOT mean you were attended. This has been stated quite clearly in the Turbine CoC. If you require the use of an alarm to alert you to an admin, then you were not attended. End of story.
Just because you are not CAUGHT is a completely different issue, and unfortunately for those who play by the rules, it seems that you're not guilty unless you get caught (in many people's eyes).
ACM means AT the Keyboard AND attending your character. Just sitting at the keyboard is NOT enough to call yourself Attended.
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Thanks Paraduck and the other LT devs. And sorry bout the overzelous spam earlier. I see what you're saying
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Icoo; just so I'm clear... none of those are problems when you are watching the screen. We went through this whole song and dance back when we removed admin alarms. We know people don't agree with it and we know it made breaking the CoC more risky.. believe me, we did every bit of that knowing exactly what the repercussions would be.
There is still a noise if someone sends you a tell. There is still a noise if you find a rare... and there is still a noise if you die (but if you're watching, you wouldn't need a sound for that, but that's another story).
The only thing IRC did was get rid of people using IRC to control their client from a remote location... remote being somewhere not infront of the client, hense, unattended.
Simply put, if you don't have time to play the game, then don't open or leave the client open.
So, what was your point again?
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Anyone having problems with LT switching targets after 1 arrow/quarrel? Since the update, after I shoot a quarrel LT switches to a different target if there is multiple targets with in my range. I have auto swith to best target clicked off, and have tried with it clicked on and still the same result.
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Why does LTxi's Helper try to heal fellow members that are way out of range?
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Why does LTxi's Helper try to heal fellow members that are way out of range?
You can turn the range down on that same tab. Ranging in a dungeon differs from that on land, so sometimes having a higher range set can help in a dungeon, but will mis-cast on land... or could be set completey too high for both.
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I use a range of 4, and he tries to heal people that are extremely out of range. It really appears to be broken...
Ill try higher ranges then I guess, doesn't make sense to me though...
I suggest a helper blacklist, simple and effective solution.
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ya, a helper blacklist would be great, sometimes you just have 1 of those guys in your fellow that you just can't stand. hehe. i know, wrong, but ya, would be great.
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That isn't even close to my intention.
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What cracks me up the most, was the whole pretense of what Lifetank 1 and 2 were made under before they became lifetank X.
If you didn't have UCM/ACM, you wouldn't have had Lifetank. Claim to fame all you want, fact is... everyone has seen the code only get updated. Not overhauled. Not to mention 3+ different main dev's on the project.
So when you bish about UCM/ACM remember where the roots of this program sprung from. (Doof).
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Thank You for the quick reply. The IRC commands worked for me as of the last release I had which ended in .1. Hmmm. I am sad to see them go, as I had certain things that a trade/MP bot would say and do via IRc and my Allegiance Channel... Sad to see them go.
Just an Update... I installed AC, Decal and LT 11.7.01 on a separate PC from my main one. It "solves" the problem of having a "working" Version of LT on my main account, and "IRC" issued Bot/Allegiance messages on my Bot account.
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You're using 11.7.0.1 on another PC?
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Is anyone having ac crashing with dual client since the update?
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What cracks me up the most, was the whole pretense of what Lifetank 1 and 2 were made under before they became lifetank X.
If you didn't have UCM/ACM, you wouldn't have had Lifetank. Claim to fame all you want, fact is... everyone has seen the code only get updated. Not overhauled. Not to mention 3+ different main dev's on the project.
So when you bish about UCM/ACM remember where the roots of this program sprung from. (Doof).
Umm, I die enough when I am at the keyboard, sure as heck ain't going to have Lifetank fight for me, it would probably get me killed even quicker!!! 
So, not all of us use it to ACM, ATM, UCM, UNLV or whatever initials are being used these days
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You're using 11.7.0.1 on another PC?
I am, just for the IRC functions for my MP/Trade Bot. It serves my purpose.
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Little more resource intensive than IRC, but you could always VPN into your home system and control it directly?
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No, lol. I Use the IRC functions to have the MP/trade bot "Respond" to certain things.
For instance... If I am hunting for a specific "Trophy" item (Tusker Spit) I can leave it on the bot, which is on 95% of the time, and can have it "tell" a specific Allegiance member to come pick it up @ the bot. Or, when someone levels it will automatically congratulate them, or say hi to them when they log on. ect. ect.
That is literally the only thing I was using the IRC functions of LT for.
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Ah, that's right. Those won't be effected by the auth server.
You can't actually do anything in AC with LT without being auth'd, so I suppose that's OK.
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Well, see.. that situation there would imply your buddy is unattended and is kinda going against our wishes in using the plugin. If he was there, he could tell you how much burden he has and how many tapers he needs.
The whole report thing though, Para accidentally killed in the initial release. If you clear your temp files and redownload from the same link on our site, that was fixed along with a few other tid bit things.
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I understand your point about having the "i can hold x tapers before being burdened" if there is IRC...but personally when i buy tapers i end up buying 1000, than maybe another 1000, than 100 at a time, because i have no FREAKING CLUE how many i can hold...i dont sit there and do the math, and frankly i don't want to....
since we can report our comp status, and since IRC commands are gone, the only way to report it is if i click the button, it would be nice if it reported comp sand also sayd i can hold X number of tapers, i have my patron run to get me tapers, or me to get him tapers when we are in a dungeon and hunting.... i ACM with LT because frankly i dont like pressing 1 1 1 3 1 1 4 5 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 3 1 1 4 5 over and over...it hurts after awhile....
so if its possible could you add the amount of tapers i could hold to my comp report....it has other usess, if theres buff bots and they add the code to castaway etc....(well bots don't really matter if they are burdened but...still) i would love it to tell me how many tapers i need to be full and underburdened given my current burden status
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Hi there,
I am having a problem that no-one else seems to have, or at least did not notice any reference to it on the boards. I cannot authenticate and I receive a message of such. Consequently I may not run Lifetank. This started a few days ago (assuming with the new release). I upgraded to 11.7.0.2, but my problem continues. I am oversees but I am running an english version of the operation system (win XP). This is first and only time I have an issue. I logged in under a couple of different accounts to no avail.
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Hi guys,
Thanks for the new update...
I've started (as of a few days ago) having authentication problems with Lifetank. I get a message that I have not been authenticated and try again using the /lt server 1,2,3 command. I've tried that, but no luck. I am oversees and using windows XP with english /US operating system setup.
I've upgraded to 11.7.0.2 but to no avail.
Can someone give me any suggestions?
ps. No authentication=no lifetank running...
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Why do you guys still have the admin alarm sound file, if you have no admin alarm at all now?
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You know, I removed it from my version long ago because it's a stupidly large WAV file and (from experience) it's annoying to download large files over dialup, especially now that it's a dead file.
I'll have to remind him for the next release  It'll free up atleast 1 to 1.5meg in the installer file.
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Why do you guys still have the admin alarm sound file, if you have no admin alarm at all now?
It was an oversight on my part, thanks for letting me know.
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"What cracks me up the most, was the whole pretense of what Lifetank 1 and 2 were made under before they became lifetank X.
If you didn't have UCM/ACM, you wouldn't have had Lifetank. Claim to fame all you want, fact is... everyone has seen the code only get updated. Not overhauled. Not to mention 3+ different main dev's on the project.
So when you bish about UCM/ACM remember where the roots of this program sprung from. (Doof)." Lil-Blub
What cracks me up the most, was the whole pretence of what Coca-cola was made under before it became "Original Coke"
If you didn't have cocaine, you wouldn't have had Coca(ine) Cola. Claim to fame all you want, fact is... everyone has seen the recipe only get updated. Not overhauled. Not to mention the 3+ different main recipies for the concoction. ( Coke, cocainless-Coke, new coke, and "original" coke. )
Oh, wait, times change, people change, "products" grow and EVOLVE.
Now what I want to know is, if people don't play AC at all, why do they even bother to "bish" about it?
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It wasn't an oversight. They still have envoy detection that is accessed THROUGH Lifetank XI. It is called Detection XI. With admin access to the auth servers you receive access to it, and it's been there the whole time that they have said they "removed" envoy alert from lifetank XI. All they did was take away public access, pull out the partial code, and rename it Detection XI.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d120/Jscho21/DetectionXi2.jpg
Quote from Paraduck here: http://vnboards.ign.com/Message.aspx?topic=98656636&brd=5432&replies=0
"... However, after discussing this with Turbine, we feel that moving forward, the best option is to remove admin detection from the plugin. ... However, this is not intended to be a UCM solution and both Turbine and the LifeTankXI Development Team were not happy with the previous state of the plugin..."
So unhappy that after removing it from public they put it into their admin ltxi *edit*AUTH SERVER*edit* access for themselves..
C'relic posted: http://vnboards.ign.com/ac_utilities/b5432/98656636/p3
"Bring it on IMO. All you're going to do is show everyone how you can't play AC without cheating the admins. Didn't it ever occur to anyone UCM checks haven't been happening because they aren't really UCM checking? All they're doing is waking people up. With this done, I'd bet there will be ALOT more tests from hereon out. "
Say that the LTXI users couldn't play AC without cheating the admins. You remove their access to the detection, and make a new detection with that for yourself. Now who was it that couldn't play without cheating the admins?
C'relic posted:
"We felt it was time to stop supporting blatant breaking of the CoC that everyone agreed to follow, and with Turbine's support we did. I'm sorry we care about following the rules of this game more than some of you here. If you want to break rules or cheat, goto WoW or something..."
Ah yes, stop supporting it from your users, but keep supporting it yourself, nice.
One final quote from C'relic:
"So, let people write their admin detection. Again, it isn't that difficult, but that would be against Decal's CoE so good luck with that."
They wrote Detection XI which is made soley for admin detection and therefore by your words is against Decal's CoE.
Edits for clarification between names.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no admin detection in Lifetank. I'm even willing to show the source to one of the Decal devs, or some person that won't distribute it and can be agreed upon.
Edit: The only things our auth server can do is prevent old versions of LT from working, send Private Messages to users, display login messages (i.e., new feature announcements, upcoming forced upgrades, etc.), and ban people from using the plugin. And there are no current bans. I'm happy to show that code as well, under the same conditions as above. We don't have anything to hide.
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Bull. Rename it Detection XI and act like it has nothing to do with Lifetank XI.
You forgot to mention your auth server, or the previous one before this 11.7.0.2 which you still said had no envoy detection, had the abillity to give users special access. Nice to know you are willing to lie to ltxi's users even when evidence is shown.
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I even have a change log that shows exact changes, line by line, of what changed from 11.7.0.1 to 11.7.0.2.
I have not lied, and I'm disappointed that you think so. I'm probably not going to convince you otherwise and that's OK. I just reviewed the code again and there is no admin detection in LT.
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You fail to see that I didn't say it was IN lifetank. Nor did i say it was in the 11.7.0.2 version, but I know for a fact that access with the previous version. It was access through /lt auth server (2/3 etc) and If you name had special access and a utillity named Detection XI magically popped up. wait a second... XI... isn't that the version from after you guys took over....
So maybe you are denying it, or maybe you didn't know about it, but it was there before this recent update, it could still be, I wouldn't know because you changed the auth servers and therefore changed the level of access users had.
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I don't even have a plugin capable of admin detection. I don't know what Detection XI is, aside from your image in the post, which could have easily been photoshopped, or easily created within a few minutes. Or it could be another plugin that I don't know about.
Either way, I'll reiterate that LT does not have any code for admin detection, we don't have any secret admin detection plugin, etc. My offer to show the source to certain people still stands, in order to help dispel any doubts that may be remaining.
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And i'm sure that code would be the most recent one, and not the previous version.
edit: And it's nice to know you feel the need to threaten the banning of me permanately from lifetank for something that YOU PERSONALLY beleive to not have existed, guess you aren't kept up to date with your fellow devs.
You might want to talk with them before you deny anything else, you'd want to have all the info before you go trying to disprove this. I'd hurry up and edit all your responses to have "To my knowledge" at the beginning.
I'll be glad to upload another screenshot of it as soon as photobucket starts loading.
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lol
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Detection XI uses the same sound file Anton.
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yea I kinda figured so
not because it comes packaged with it, but I know someone who kinda got to use this authorization
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I got the screenshot of it myself. Funny to see somebody who manages lifetank and doesn't even know the things in connection with it.
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problem with writing your own admin detection code now is you can't test it, since the envoys don't do anything anymore
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Here's an interesting question:
XP: Why do you have to load up Photoshop to VIEW the screenshots?
Screenshots are either BMP's or JPG's, both of which can be viewed with the built in Microsoft viewer? So why would you need to wait for PHotoshop to load (your words that you typed)??
Unless of course there is something else going on..........................
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 
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where does it say he used photoshop to view it? or even used photoshop at all?
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Xp.Passup.System: " I'll be glad to upload another screenshot of it as soon as photobucket starts loading. "
Photobucket DOES NOT EQUAL photoshop
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"... So why would you need to wait for PHotoshop to load (your words that you typed)?? "
No need to make things up, those were not my words at all. I said Photobucket, which has nothing to do with Photoshop.
www.Photobucket.com
Where 40 million people are:
Searching, uploading, sharing
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Check it out!
Here's another screenshot of it, this time with no name erasing, char cloaking, or underlining what so ever.
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Paraduck,
This should not come as any surprise to you. After you and Crelic removed the admin alarm, a new plugin called Detection XI was created to patch it back into lifetank.
Its existance is not in doubt. XPS seems to think you or Crellic wrote and released privately for your use and your best buds. I know you all did not do this. I am pretty sure XPS does too but he is having fun hassling you.
This is sparked because you annoyed people temporarily by taking out the IRC commands.
In all likelyhood a private enhancement is available or will be soon to put the IRC commands back in too.
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Yula, it shouldn't be a suprise to him because a lifetank dev made it, and it used the lifetank auth servers to check if you had authority to use it. All of this after they so strongly posted about removing envoy alert from it and even saying how if somebody was to make a decal program for that use that it was against the Decal CoE. Dang. Don't you just love hypocrites.
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XPS you seem to think a current lifetank developer made. You do not know. I believe Paraduck when he said he did not have anything to do with it.
Just as you can patch AC via plugin. You can patch a plugin too. You do not have to be a current lifetank developer to do this. Decal development tears AC and they never seen the source code for the client.
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It's called Detection XI. XI, hmm, the same number as the current lifetank since c'relic has taken over.
Yula, how do you think I had my access upgraded on the Lifetank Auth Servers?
could it be... the lifetank devs?
oh my god.
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why would they upgrade your access? especially if they knew you're the kind of backstabbing person to take anything personal like that and spread it all over the boards?
(not saying what you're sayin is or is not true, but it just seems odd is all)
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Because I was friends with one.
I never ever got a chance to make use of the envoy alert, and with the auth servers access changed, as well as my lacking a need for the alert, Why should it be kept what a secret? Read all the dev's posts on the issue and you will see how strongly they were about not having this kind of feature in lifetank.
Even if it wasn't current, which last I checked 1 version is pretty current, c'relic posted that this such thing is against the decal CoE.
http://vnboards.ign.com/Message.aspx?topic=98656636&brd=5432&start=98667026
"So, let people write their admin detection. Again, it isn't that difficult, but that would be against Decal's CoE so good luck with that."
Paraduck said he doesn't know about it, meaning he couldn't have removed it between the 11.7.0.1 to .2 versions. I posted screenshots from the .1 version. Well since the only way to get Detection XI is being exempt from the restrictions on lifetank, via the lifetank IG auth, that means that Lifetank is in violation of the Decal CoE as by what C'relic has previously said.
Nice.
edit: BTW, I've been banned from use of lifetank because of revealing this, some threat Detection XI is if
Paraduck: "..there is no admin detection in Lifetank. "
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this is old new guys, I stated this months again when they took over the project.
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of course, but no one had the proof like this
also Lil bub stated this before you also
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Lets compare an account with the auth and one without. See if you notice a difference.
Account without special auth aka access to detection xi:
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.671] Core.Terminate
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.671] [Engine] IEngine_Terminate - start
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.671] [Engine] DeleteEngineObjects - Start
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] PluginInterface.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMain.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMain.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMacro.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMacro.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIBuffs.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIBuffs.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMonsters.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMonsters.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIIrc.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIIrc.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] << ERROR >> [Engine] clsAdmin_Terminate - Object variable or With block variable not set
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMsgLog.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMsgLog.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIOptions.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIOptions.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIAntiBan.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIAntiBan.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UILoot.Unload() -- Begin
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UILoot.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] PluginInterface.Unload() -- End
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] DeleteEngineObjects - End
Account with special auth aka detection xi:
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.703] Core.Terminate
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.703] [Engine] IEngine_Terminate - start
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.703] [Engine] DeleteEngineObjects - Start
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.781] [Engine] PluginInterface.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.781] [Engine] UIMain.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.781] [Engine] UIMain.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.781] [Engine] UIMacro.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMacro.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIBuffs.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIBuffs.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMonsters.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMonsters.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIIrc.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIIrc.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMsgLog.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMsgLog.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIOptions.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIOptions.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIAntiBan.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIAntiBan.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UILoot.Unload() -- Begin
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UILoot.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] PluginInterface.Unload() -- End
[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] DeleteEngineObjects - End
You see the difference, it's in the account without special auth.
[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] << ERROR >> [Engine] clsAdmin_Terminate - Object variable or With block variable not set
That's because it tries to terminate, or end, the admin detection when it logs out, just like it ends very other process. Since it isn't running, you don't have access to admin detect, it can't be terminated, and there's an error. See how that error message is gone when you log out with access to Detection XI and have it running?
yeah, doesn't exist... right...
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I got this error:
151-223-202-222-202-202-220-217-198-155-142-149-228-203-222-216-218-208-213-128-129-200-195-229-206-181-173-161-136-214-189-199-221-183-216-213-218-21 0-213-205-160-116-174-221-194-216-219-207-209-161-136-182-181-196-207-192-227-149-140-188-204-218-234-185-211-168-116-205-206-222-205-200-214-232-189- 207-211
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There was a problem with auth server 1, which has been corrected. Either relog, or type "/lt auth server 1".
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I'm not sure why any of this comes as a shock to anyone...
None of this matters. Decal code of ethics? LOL Lets hack some software, and then drum up some ethics that people need to abide by when using it...
Solid logic.
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wow quren... way to misrepresent the truth
It wasn't about maliciously hacking software. It was about exploration and making things better. The whole point behind the Code of Ethics was to create an environment that wasn't abusive to the game, and wasn't going to impact the game in a negative way through unfair advantage.
And you can't talk about "hacking" as if it's all the same. The original devs were not being malicious in their intent. Without people like the original devs pushing the limits and the status quo, technology would remain stagnant. The 3rd party scene in other games is like it is BECAUSE of Decal in many cases. Many games see what Decal provided to Asheron's Call and felt it would be in their best interest to implement their own controllable version instead.
There is such a thing as Ethical Hacking as much of an oxymoron as it sounds. It's called being smart, polite, and knowing the boundaries and not stepping over them. Something that unfortunately a LOT of developers these days know nothing about.
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whatever floats your boat
3rd party apps in asheron's call are the exception, not the rule of gaming software
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whats funny is that after this came out all the sudden Ltx stopped working and needed a patch. Yes Lil blub did state this before me. Plus you guys if you watch when ya log out, you can see where it says admin terminate or whatever. Para and Cel are a bunch of hippos period. Who knows what else Ltx will do with Admin status, more then likly they worked on the code that will pass a envoy test without any human interaction.
Word of the thread is HIPPO!!!
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quern: World of Warcraft... one of the LARGEST MMOs in history has a huge 3rd party scene.
so don't say it's only Asheron's Call. There are others following suit.
(and the word is Hypocrit... so Hippo would be an incorrect abbreviation.. and would instead be implying that Paraduck and C'relic are fat)
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"Who knows what else Ltx will do with Admin status, more then likly they worked on the code that will pass a envoy test without any human interaction."
detection XI was the only thing it unlocked.
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the word "Hippo" sounds cooler then Hypocrit.
"detection XI was the only thing it unlocked."
I know for a fact this used to be part of Ltx, they must have removed it cause it was broken
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it wasn't broken, i used it in the 11.7.0.1 version, the screenshots show it.
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I've been banned from not only lifetank, but all of the lifetank websites.
Isn't that seem like an awful lot of action for something that "doesn't exist", Paraduck?
Decal is against the use of utillities meant for UCM. Detection XI is clearly for that. Wonder how that info would go with decal devs? I've already proved it two ways, and the code tells more.
Lifetank XI banned from Decal, now wouldn't that be interesting.
Better go find the detection xi code and force a new patch Paraduck.
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I don't control the LT domain or the servers that LT is on, so I don't have anything to do with any problems that you may have accessing the site. Nor do I know about any intentional actions that could cause this.
Also, for reasons I will not go in to, I am no longer a LT developer, and won't be coming back like I did previously. I will say that they are largely unrelated to your accusations, and I would be leaving regardless. So, please direct your senseless flames elsewhere. I have nothing more to say about them, although you may just be angry since you're allegedly losing RL money from not being able to run LifeTank.
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*snicker*
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I actually prefer Warbot to lifetank simply for the better grouping features, I'ved used it many times before rather than lifetank. I could write an Ac Tool script to do just as good as lifetank does...
And no Paraduck, I don't lack common sense. I wait until after i'm done with something before taking an unneccessary risk that could hinder it.
yeah, I was IP banned.
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I wonder why C'relic hasn't denied anything yet.
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I didn't feel like feeding the trolling. We made a change, it broke your abused toy.... and now since you might have to (oh yeah, allegedly) issue a few refunds you're upset.
Been through this before, not in the mood to answer to it again.
I might answer some of your allegations should I feel like it, sometime.. soon maybe, who knows.
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Explain this:
"and now since you might have to (oh yeah, allegedly) issue a few refunds you're upset."
I've been wanting to make this post since I found out about the added envoy detection, even before I had access to it. I even hinted at it at various times.
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I dont understand what you are trying to do C'relic
his 'toy' was something you hid in lifetank, that was supposedly taken out?
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"toy" that I never even had to use at all. not once did I get a tell from an envoy with it running.
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I didn't read anything except the title. I just want to say thank you for the effort made on LifeTank. I love the continuous buffs mode, it makes it so much easier to chat without having to check timers on buffs. once again, thank you for your effort.
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I haven't played in awhile, but i can verify EPS's claims..
He sent me a number of @tells ingame at the time that he got access to the admin detection, i believe cause he was the vassal of one of the devs?
including copy/paste of what the guy who gave him access was saying.
I may even have the SS's from back then if i didn't delete them when i deleted the game.
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No need shriva, C'relic can't deny it.
He was *MY* Vassal btw =P
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For the first time logging into AC and connecting to the Lifetank Auth servers on this IP I am banned. This means that c'relic used the VN moderator access to check my IP and then used that information for his personal use to add to the lifetank auth servers.
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wow crelic, you are amazing
I dont trust you with my IP, iso de-mod
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XPS, i wouldn't be suprised if he has all your accounts banned from LTX just incase you change IP's.
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You act like him lying about removing envoy detection was a GOOD thing and that nobody should have known.
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FYI: Webservers have log files too.
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I don't see where any of your claims (legit or not) have anything to do with 11.7.0.2 being released.
But hey.. at least it's a good thing you're keeping it bumped up.
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the difference between ACM and UCM is NOT an alarm. Just because you hear an alarm and run to your computer does NOT mean you were attended. This has been stated quite clearly in the Turbine CoC. If you require the use of an alarm to alert you to an admin, then you were not attended. End of story.
Just because you are not CAUGHT is a completely different issue, and unfortunately for those who play by the rules, it seems that you're not guilty unless you get caught (in many people's eyes).
ACM means AT the Keyboard AND attending your character. Just sitting at the keyboard is NOT enough to call yourself Attended.
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Guys, guys...
I thought it's very clear I'm not talking about attended term from CoC.
I was talking about classic MACROING which isn't legal in any form.
Some forms are hard to catch and that's why people using them can be relatively safe,
but that's illegal too.
I'm of course talking entirely about CoC breakers.
LifeTank was created for them.
They paid for LT development. And they paid a huge money.
CoC breakers created LT. Without them there will be no LT.
Spak implemented a lot of features because people paid him to do it.
I personally have to pay 1200$ to get permission to use LT for all my clan members.
And part of my money went to Decal developers as well.
So in some way I sponsored development of LT and Decal :-)
It's very sad that programming code I was paying for a lot of money is now removed for no reason.
When old LT users talk they use term ACM in my meaning.
When we talk there is no playing with words, twisting CoC or something. We all know we are doing something illegal but we let ourselfs alone to justify our actions. It may be surprise to you but a lot of us have no problem with integrity or moral.
Legality has no connection to moral, period.
BTW question for you. LT was created for this "dark purposes". Author got a lot of ILLEGAL money for developing this piece of art in breaking CoC.
When you took over development you certainly know it.
It's like using results of Mengele's research. You can do whatever good with it you can't undo evil past. Medicine community did decission and complete rejected Mengele's research. It can't be quoted or anyway referenced.
If you didn't reject LT you just can't argue with anything like good, moral, legal, CoC...
From my point of view there is no black and white.
There are different creatures living in "twilight zone" of illegality.
Some of them are "good guys". Sharing experience, tips on spots, setups,
hacking tools...
Some of them can be driven and consumed totaly by their selfishness.
Yes I know, they all are same CoC breakers for you.
But living in this "twilight zone" taught me to differ.
Surprisingly there are a lot of CoC breakers who don't UCM.
Some of them because they got perma (like me) and taught a lesson,
some because they don't want to interfere with others' playing style.
Even now they're using logoff on non-friend detect feature!
On white servers!
We all are strictly ACM. Using LT only when we are close to our computers.
When somebody find us and ask something we response.
When somebody ask to join fellow we response.
We are not silent fellows, we chat, we talk, we make fun while macroing.
We response to allegiance channels, server channels (using irc to log all conversation on all channels), because while ACMing we have a lot of free time:-)
We don't have problem with dead fellow members at ls...
With low XP...
With out of comps...
With manually looting all rares...
All of that thanks to ACM.
And now you remove reasons to ACM.
Can't chat (I will NEVER use those stupid Turbine scrolling menu for looking who exactly told what in "massive" debate), can't loot rares, can't detect anything not even PMs...
I will not repeat my all previous arguments shortly you just killed ACM.
I know it's illegal...
But law accepts there are different levels of illegality there is 5$ stealing and there are murders... And penalty is very different. Even cops accepts those 5$ stealing criminals and don't bust them... Same for weed smokers versus heroin users. In my country both are illegal but weed smoker wasn't busted for a quite some time.
We all see difference and we all know what is really WRONG here.
You just forced all those 5$ criminals to become murders...
again
just 2 cents
from macroing community insider
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Sorry for my delayed response. I just don't have time for AC. Too much work:-(
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Icoo; just so I'm clear... none of those are problems when you are watching the screen. We went through this whole song and dance back when we removed admin alarms. We know people don't agree with it and we know it made breaking the CoC more risky.. believe me, we did every bit of that knowing exactly what the repercussions would be.
There is still a noise if someone sends you a tell. There is still a noise if you find a rare... and there is still a noise if you die (but if you're watching, you wouldn't need a sound for that, but that's another story).
The only thing IRC did was get rid of people using IRC to control their client from a remote location... remote being somewhere not infront of the client, hense, unattended.
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Removing admin alarms even if I don't agree with it is your legitimate right.
I'm of course staying at opposite side but again I accept it's your right.
What I don't understand is removing already existing irc code.
It doesn't help in your fight against UCM.
On the contrary I think it's step in wrong direction even from your point view.
> There is still a noise if someone sends you a tell. There is still a noise if you find a rare...
not for me:-(
I'm running AC on computer without sound card.
That's why I'm so big fun of irc.
Because I forwarded all important messages to irc and they ring a bell on my other computer (the only one with soundcard).
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This should not come as any surprise to you. After you and Crelic removed the admin alarm, a new plugin called Detection XI was created to patch it back into lifetank.
Its existance is not in doubt. XPS seems to think you or Crellic wrote and released privately for your use and your best buds. I know you all did not do this. I am pretty sure XPS does too but he is having fun hassling you.
This is sparked because you annoyed people temporarily by taking out the IRC commands.
In all likelyhood a private enhancement is available or will be soon to put the IRC commands back in too.
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Thanks Yula to completely confirm what I said and what was my warning about...
LOL, again good classic "the road to hell is paved with good intensions",
"trying good" you made worse.
When damage is done could you give back irc support please ?
For a few of us old ACMers who don't want to change habbits and start UCMing :-)
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When damage is done could you give back irc support please ?
For a few of us old ACMers who don't want to change habbits and start UCMing :-)
If you can only get your comp counts through irc, you already are ucming.
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lol, you dont UCM bob?
might as well just stop talking liek you think UCM is bad
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hippos
Icoo Celtic and para along with a few close friends still have Envoy alarm and IRC. Its just the public now that does not.
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Ive often wondered,since the day they announced the intended removal of admin detection, what their motives were. This "were good guys and we wanna kiss turbines ass" thing they publically told everyone always seemed so hollow.
I wonder how deep this rabbit hole goes? Real life profiting doesnt sound outta the question.
The part that irritates me the most is the way these guys act so noble and if this is true that makes them the complete opposite in my book.
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prob pretty deep, I know para kisses some major turbine you know what.
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i need the feature to lure critters with magic yield. when i stand in pit in eo there are many mobs on plat that i dont get to attack would be nice to cast yield to lure them down to me
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Something is wrong with the buy/sell for me. It keeps saying "[LTxi] First select the object to buy!" when I try to set the buy target.
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Yeah, I noticed the same thing. I think it may be a memloc issue as it was working fine before the last AC update.
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So no chance for a fix beyond the hope that decal devs do something?
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Not sure. I'm not actively working on LT currently (it's just C'relic for now.) I hardly use the feature and I'm really busy in real life right now, so it may be a while before I get a chance to look at it. What I suggested in the previous post was the first thing that came to mind considering that no code changes were made, and it worked just fine before the patch.
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