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Subject: Framerate slowdown with Decal windows open
Whenever I open a decal window in the game, my framerate goes down to like 1 frame per second. It does not matter which plugin or which window is opened. I tried all sorts of combinations of plugins and the only difference is that some decal windows slow me down more than others.

Sometimes, I can restart my computer, start up the game with decal, and the problem goes away. Other times I restart my computer, and the problem returns.

What do you guys think I should try? Here is my decal export.

Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.6.0

type, enabled, name, version, clsid
Plugins, 1, BotShopper, 1.0.0.0, {6367C4F9-0F6D-40F5-91E5-6826CBFCBE86}
Plugins, 0, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.6.0, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 0, LifeTank XI, 11.7.0.1, {910C0F8E-827A-4E35-A980-50D57D0B1296}
Plugins, 0, AgentZ, 0.9.0.18, {359E547B-5302-4134-80F2-3BE5C31EC828}
Plugins, 1, Make It!, 5.9.7.0, {70DD2CC6-E638-4F43-9F15-C84A0FC7DC76}
Plugins, 0, Find It!, 2.9.7.0, {70DD5EF7-FE29-46C3-B0B3-4185327A35F1}
Plugins, 1, playersOnline, 1.0.0.0, {1D16EB9F-E3E0-4332-BDEE-CDB4B8D4B2A6}
Plugins, 0, Imp Inventory, 1.0.0.4, {006D1FA0-DDB5-42BC-9DAA-6D1DC696712E}
Plugins, 1, BuffMe, 0.1.8.2, {22C182F7-DD8E-4894-B7F0-27D52B27DA96}
Plugins, 1, Alinco, 1.4.9.7, {4338186E-7AE8-4B9E-985D-98D692036EA8}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.6.0, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Alinco Filter, 1.4.2.0, {375A7C84-B4FD-49BB-B63D-15CCC004E979}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.6.0, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.6.0, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Decal FileService, 2.9.6.0, {5E9B2FC3-C251-4589-8CE3-2BCA542B98B6}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.6.0, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.6.0, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Network Filters, 1, Darkside Filter, 11.7.0.1, {F93FD48F-BA68-4BF5-A7B3-7908D1634331}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.6.0, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.6.0, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.6.0, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.6.0, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.6.0, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Services, 1, Decal D3DService, 2.9.6.0, {F0CC07A0-2C89-4FA4-9356-714665BC2F8B}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.6.0, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.6.0, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

[Protected Storage Service] : Automatic

Decal Settings
: Timer (Default)
[Portal Path] : C:\Program Files\Asheron's Call - Throne of Destiny\
[Launcher App] : acclient.exe
: http://update.decaldev.com
[memlocs.xml] : 24536 bytes, Version 0.0.11.2852
[messages.xml] : 53271 bytes, Version 2006.08.22.1
[Video Memory] : 137854912

D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_30 is required)
[d3dx9_24.dll] : Installed (9.5.132.0)
[d3dx9_25.dll] : Installed (9.6.168.0)
[d3dx9_26.dll] : Installed (9.7.239.0)
[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)
[d3dx9_28.dll] : Installed (9.10.455.0)
[d3dx9_29.dll] : Installed (9.11.519.0)
[d3dx9_30.dll] : Installed (9.12.589.0)


---Support Libraries ---
Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks
[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed
[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed (Service Pack 1)
[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed
[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed

C++ Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.96.90)
[atl70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[mfc70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcr70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcp70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[atl71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)
[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.70.1113.0)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.20.9841.0)


---Video Device Information---
[Device] : RADEON 9800 SERIES
[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY1
[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00010001&REV_00
[KeyDeviceKey] : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{33546694-EEDB-4753-91AD-04B949D962A1}\0000
[Manufacturer] : ATI Technologies Inc.
[ChipType] : RADEON 9800 PRO AGP (0x4E48)
[DACType] : Internal DAC(400MHz)
[Revision] :
[MemoryLocalised] : 128.0 MB
[MemoryEnglish] : 128.0 MB
[DisplayLocalised] : 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
[DisplayEnglish] : 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
[DisplayWidth] : 1280
[DisplayHeight] : 1024
[DisplayBpp] : 32
[RefreshRate] : 75
[MonitorName] : Plug and Play Monitor
[MonitorMaxRes] : 1600,1200
[DriverName] : ati2dvag.dll
[DriverVersion] : 6.14.0010.6606
[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail
[DriverLangEnglish] : English
[DriverLangLocal] : English
[DriverDateEng] : 3/21/2006 22:56:42
[DriverDateLocal] : 3/21/2006 22:56:42
[DriverSize] : 257536
[MiniVdd] : ati2mtag.sys
[MiniVddDateEng] : 3/21/2006 22:56:22
[MiniVddDateLocal] : 3/21/2006 22:56:22
[MiniVddSize] : 1522688
[Vdd] : n/a
[RenderWindow] : Yes
: No
[Debug] : No
[Signed] : No
[SignValid] : No
: {D7B71EE2-0D08-11CF-7F7A-0B20A1C2CB35}
[DDIVer] : 9
[DDIVerEng] : 9 (or higher)
[DDIVerLocal] : 9 (or higher)
: 0
[VendorID] : 0x1002
[DeviceID] : 0x4E48
[SubSystemID] : 0x00010001
[RevisionID] : 0x0000
[WHQL Level] : 0
[NoHardware] : 0
[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes
[3DAccelExists] : Yes
[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes
[AGP Enabled] : Yes
[AGPExists] : Yes
[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

 

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Subject: Framerate slowdown with Decal windows open
Here is my dxdiag export up to the sound devices, so you can get my computer info.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/20/2007, 03:03:26
Machine name: FALCON-COMP
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
System Model: A7N8X-E
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 247MB used, 2215MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9800 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9800 PRO AGP (0x4E48)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00010001&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6606 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/21/2006 22:56:42, 257536 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 3/21/2006 22:56:22, 1522688 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D08-11CF-7F7A-0B20A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4E48
SubSys ID: 0x00010001
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: NFORCE_VAD
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 6.14.0442.0030 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 5/25/2004 15:58:04, 396032 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: NVIDIA Corporation
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

 

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Subject: Framerate slowdown with Decal windows open
I uninstalled my video driver, and reinstalled it. It seems to have solved the problem. I will post here if the problem returns.

 

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Subject: Framerate slowdown with Decal windows open
The problem actually came back after a few days, but I've figured it out. The problem was the ATI control panel that comes with the driver. For some reason, after a few restarts, my performance goes way down on all games. If I uninstall the driver and control panel, then install the driver only, the problem never returns. Anyone ever heard of such a thing? Could it be that SMARTGART thing that screws it up?

 

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I've got exactly the same graphics card, and I've had no end of problems with it. I get BSoD's on a regular basis, and my framerate still halves when I've got a decal window open. Didn't think it would be the control panel though, I'll try uninstalling it.

 

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I also had to roll back to catalyst version 6.4 if that helps you. The new drivers don't seem to work well on the 9800 Pro.

 

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I also have the same card.....from time to time it will crash. I've tried pretty much everything to correct my problems, it seems to work ok with the last driver download.....here's what I have.


Driver Packaging Version 8.252-060503a-032464C-ATI
CATALYST® Version 06.5
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6614
2D Driver File Path System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{0C7B4425-1A0F-4D7F-9755-FF75B62185EA}\0000
Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0399
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.5819
CATALYST® Control Center Version 1.2.2172.2074
AIW/VIVO WDM Driver Version 6.14.10.6321
AIW/VIVO WDM SP Driver Version 6.14.10.6246
AIW/VIVO WDM NSP Driver Version 6.14.10.6321
AV Stream (T200) Driver Version 6.14.10.1064

So I haven't bothered checking for a newer version.
This will be the last ATI I buy though.

 

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